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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 11:30am On Nov 26, 2019 |
codedguy1: Shebi you all were subtracting hazard penalty for. His goals when discussing hazard form? Let's keep up that energy. Penalty goal is awoof goal QED |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 11:33am On Nov 26, 2019 |
Obere4u:Keep this same energy when talking about your fraud of a legend Lampard. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:35am On Nov 26, 2019 |
elampiro:I can't remember. The question is simple, do you think we'd have fared better if Greenwood started in place of Jones? And when you say it was a formation change, what formation were we playing when Martial, Rashford, James, Lingard and Greenwood were all on the pitch? What is your take on Williams goal, should he have joined the attack in that instance or stayed back expecting the strikers to score? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:40am On Nov 26, 2019 |
odizeey:Why then do big clubs fire their managers when they don't do well? It's simply because they evaluate the quality of players they have and in the end decide that they should be doing better and that's the case here. Player for player, we are better than Leicester unless you think otherwise which a combined 11 should suffice. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:44am On Nov 26, 2019 |
patrickmuf: Try to stay on one line of argument? You are getting yourself confused and widening the argument for no reason? You asked when Ole went out for all attacking and I gave you an instance of Chelsea's match. I know too I have seen others, but I cannot keep record. I am a very busy man. Greenwood starting the game might even have been worse. When SAF started Chicharito, he went on ghost mode on the pitch 80% of the matches (except may be playing against sluggish Chelsea defenders at the time). But when a game is hard and Chicha is brought in as an xtra man in the dying minutes when everyone is tired, his speed and swiftness became a huge advantage. On Willian, you are still getting it wrong. Defenders and goalkeepers can sometimes attack and score but it is not their primary responsibilities. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Swissh: 11:47am On Nov 26, 2019 |
Melvyn11:Cc Thorrvik55 Bikeman ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:49am On Nov 26, 2019 |
The major problem I see in Man United team is very simple. They cannot breakdown a tightly packed defence. . You need good dribblers who can dribble really good and fast to do that. When that is not working, you should have good forward players scoring from outside the box with accurate shots (bullets) on target. Also good headers to nod in from set plays and crosses. Simple. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:52am On Nov 26, 2019 |
McKenna and Carrick will stay in Manchester and work with the first team players who aren't travelling to Kazakhstan to prepare for Sunday's match against Aston Villa. Head of first team development Nicky Butt will travel with the MUFC squad to Kazakhstan. Solskjær is preparing to select a young squad to face Astana. - Sky Cc Leyqute |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:53am On Nov 26, 2019 |
Gary Neville on MNF last night: “The midfield I’m not going to go into because that’s not a midfield. Fred and Pereira is not a midfield for a mid-table club, let alone one of the top spending clubs in Europe." - Sky |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:54am On Nov 26, 2019 |
![]() Manchester United have been monitoring Real Valladolid's Mohammed Salisu (20). He has a €12m release clause in his contract. - Diario de valladolid |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:57am On Nov 26, 2019 |
Some people are funny sha. In their combined 11 of Leicester and United players, they have Pereira over Wan-Bissaka the big question is why? The same people who say Wan-Bissaka is doing great with us and his primary responsibility is defending are picking Pereira over him because Pereira is very good going forward...I dey laugh. My combined 11... ....................... .De Gea.............. Pereira....Lindelof.....Maguire.......Chiwell .................... .......Ndidi........................... ....... ...Maddison............Pogba....... ...... James......... Vardy......... Martial........ On the bench... Kasper, Wan-Bissaka, Soyuncu, Shaw, McSauce, Tielemans, Rashford, Greenwood. In the starting 11, we have 6 players against 5 for them. You might argue why I choose Lindelof over Evans but the truth is with Ndidi in midfield, any CB will look good. In midfield, you might even choose to play McTominay/Tielemans over Maddison since Pogba is starting. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 11:58am On Nov 26, 2019 |
Melvyn11: Shebi we have been keeping the same energy.. Still keep it when we discuss your legends also. Take out Lamps pen goal and mention your midfielders that outscored him |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 12:01pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
Swissh:Sebi that one is just like you, type type without sense ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 12:06pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
Obere4u:Look for someone else who rates midfielders by goals. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 12:07pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
Swissh:Average player who gets over hyped because of awoof penalties and deflected goals. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 12:08pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
Melvyn11: What do you rate strikers with penalty goal? But but you all are rating Hazard based on goals na |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 12:09pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
Melvyn11:Bring the stats for your short man Devil that's not average ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Swissh: 12:30pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
BikeMan:Mr Afolabi the vegetable ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:02pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
patrickmuf:Why exactly is Martial on your team? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 1:11pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
eph12:Because his name is martial. Martial arts. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:32pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
elampiro: LoL. The bolded is what I said like 2-3 months ago. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:33pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
Oasis007: Yyup. Heard the Europa league match squad is going to be veeery young that Young might actually play. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by biomustry: 1:39pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
Obere4u:Is Hazard a midfielder now? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 1:55pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
codedguy1:By my submission, I point to the all important yet ignored fact, that the Gaffer alias Manager alias coach alias oga kpatakpata plays a crucial role on the development and performance of the players, via tactics. Thank you sir, I rest my case ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 2:07pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
KingTom: Oga before you rest your case. Nobody has ignored the role the gaffer plays in making sure the team performs. Ole's selection, formation, tactics and substitution has been discussed here. Some are of the opinion he needs more time and some want his head like now now. I am of the opinion that even if Ole is given time he would still come short of my expectations as to where we want to be as a club. I could be wrong though. Unfortunately sacking him now will be a dicey thing to do. What's your opinion about Ole's performance so far vis a vis united having a better squad than Leicester? 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:07pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
elampiro:Apples and oranges...Against Chelsea, when Martial was brought on who was taken off and what was our front line like? I am telling you that taking off Jones who shouldn't have started and Pereira off for Lingard and Greenwood as well as pushing our fullbacks forward is the boldest move Ole has made since he was appointed. For a start, I would have started either one of Greenwood or Lingard in place of Jones and I believe we would've been better for it. Talking about Greenwood, it is funny you're comparing him to Chicharito. You said "might" meaning you're not certain how it would have panned out so, why the Chicharito comparison? Why not use another striker who has gone on to be a success here like Rooney? It's not like Greenwood plays like Chicharito sef. You need to understand that football has changed, it has move on from the days when the primary responsibility of a defender was to defend. Nowadays, attacks starts from the back, Ederson and Alisson are renowned for thier dangerous long kicks from the back. if a defender's primary responsibility is to defend then Mangala would still be at City. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:11pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
eph12:It's between Martial or Rashford...I choose Martial because he plays more with his head than Rashford who still believes it's all about pace. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 2:28pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
codedguy1:Sir, it seems we're on the same page, and it would be foolhardy to keep on arguing. That being said, I feel his performance as a tactician has been poor so far but as far as Leicester having a better squad than us? I doubt that and if it looks that way then it's because of the job Rodgers is doing. Ole will in my less than humble opinion, turn that Leicester club to and I say this with great shame and disappointment and with eyes filled with hot tears, MAN UNITED of today. ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:37pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
Oasis007: After everything, we would still struggle against a bottom table team Aston Villa. He had two weeks to plan and beat Sheffield. Well, what do I know? Aston Villa and Sheffield players are better than ours. Neville, a failure also supporting his fellow rookie, all of them are romancing the situation, because it's OGS, awon werey, Na God go punish all of them. Chai Mou suffer ehn! 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 3:14pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
If Granada finishes on top of Barcelona this season, Granada was obviously better than them this season. The table is the proof When Leicester carried the league, will you say Man U, Man City, or Liverpool were better than them that season? Let's stop typing with emotions. If this season ends with Leicester being on top of United, it means they were better If you beat me when we meet, and lose your remaining games, and I win mine but lose to you, how does that make you better? Currently(emphasis on the word), Leicester is better than Man Utd, and Sheffield is better than Spurs. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:20pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
izzou:We are talking about the quality of the respective teams in a bid to understand the role of a coach in the performance of a team. Let me ask you, before Rodgers joined Leicester last season, if given an opportunity assuming you're a coach, which club will you join knowing too well the quality of their respective squads, Leicester City or Manchester United? You can replace Leicester with Sheffield United and Manchester United with Spurs and answer the same question... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 3:26pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
patrickmuf: Of course, I'd pick Man Utd And that's why I said you guys are misunderstanding the point, or typing with emotions. The best team in the league, or in a tournament is whoever comes first, or carries the trophy. Man Utd has quality players than Leicester, but currently, Leicester is better than them. |
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