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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:14pm On Nov 26, 2019
gensteejay:

Definitely, not me. I never discussed the cheque book manager before his coming to England or even during his first season.

You can't find something contrary to this in my old comments.

You are able to track down those who said he will succeed to dish out Ls, how about track down those who swore he would fail to dish out these same Ls
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:14pm On Nov 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


Sensible people know a contract of 3yrs is not judged by the first year, where is your coach who didnt fail his first year? Where is he now?

How many years contract did Hazard sign for Madrid for you to be condemning him in just 4 months into his contract? You be mumu. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:15pm On Nov 26, 2019
digz:
My ballls is a talent cheesy cheesy cheesy
Grace and Stephanie can testify

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 5:17pm On Nov 26, 2019
Godx:


I will say Wilder is a fitter, more athletic version of Shavers. The Black Acorn could KO a charging rhino when he landed. Mind you, Shavers was a much better boxer than Wilder!
Wilder has a much better chin than Shavers

Godx:

Fury should be licking his lips after Wilder fight with Ortiz. . Fury has the size, skill and chin to beat Wilder. The big advantage Wilder used to have is his height and reach. Fighters have to be wary, as Wilder can usually hit them before they can hit him. Fury doesnt have to jump through that hurdle. Ortiz is also a southpaw, which worked in Wilder's favor and he still hardly landed any Punch. The straight right is always there when facing a southpaw. Much more than a conventional fighter.

I see Fury boxing from the outside, circling to Wilder's left, nullifying that right hand. Just needs to make sure he doesnt trade with him, even if he looks hurt. I am just so confident about Fury chances.

If you're talking of which fighter should be licking his lips it should actually be Wilder because I can see Wilder bussing him open to the point where if he doesn't get knocked out his trainers might need to intervene.

The real problem with Wilder is he's such an unorthodox mofo. There is no stance that will save you from being hit at some point in the fight. Fury's lack of KO power means this is a given and I saw a slight dip in Fury's reflexes. He was slower to get out the way of those blows. How do you think he would handle a faster and much stronger Wilder?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:19pm On Nov 26, 2019
airmark:


How many years contract did Hazard sign for Madrid for you to be condemning him in just 4 months into his contract? You be mumu. grin


You told us Hazard will destroy Spanish farmers

airmark:

This is the reason hazard needs to move to madrid in 2018 to sodomise these yeye defenders. Laliga is full of farmers playing as defenders, outside of the first 4 teams.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:19pm On Nov 26, 2019
EruditorII:


[s]We already know you. MMM and Commandclem enthusiast cum future Olympic gold medalist in marathon swimming. You are only helping me identify the other Shekpites who cannot think themselves out of a toilet seat.[/s]

''Tallness is talent'' grin grin grin

I hope you won't teach your kids that nonsense. I trust women, your wife will quickly correct them and ask them to be wary of your stupid teachings. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:21pm On Nov 26, 2019
digz:


dwarfism is talent cheesy cheesy

Eruditor : Hunchback is a talent.

cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:28pm On Nov 26, 2019
A40:

Wilder has a much better chin than Shavers


If you're talking of which fighter should be licking his lips it should actually be Wilder because I can see Wilder bussing him open to the point where if he doesn't get knocked out his trainers might need to intervene.

The real problem with Wilder is he's such an unorthodox mofo. There is no stance that will save you from being hit at some point in the fight. Fury's lack of KO power means this is a given and I saw a slight dip in Fury's reflexes. He was slower to get out the way of those blows. How do you think he would handle a faster and much stronger Wilder?

I still believe Tyson Fury may still be Wilder's boogeyman.

Wilder will soon be exposed and tagged, before he lands that right hand. .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by digz: 5:31pm On Nov 26, 2019
raumdeuter:

Grace and Stephanie can testify

Ashewo uncle I no sabi grace and stephanie o! cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by digz: 5:34pm On Nov 26, 2019
airmark:


Eruditor : Hunchback is a talent.

cheesy cheesy

Eye is a talent cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 5:54pm On Nov 26, 2019
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 5:56pm On Nov 26, 2019
airmark:


I still believe Tyson Fury may still be Wilder's boogeyman, before he lands that right hand.

Wilder will soon be exposed and tagged.
Tyson for his size hits like a fairy. That's his biggest problem and it's why his KO percentage is so low.

I daresay Wilder grossly underestimated Fury in their first fight. Truth be told I don't see how Fury wins without the fight going to the judges but I can see Wilder dropping Fury again and he might not be able to get up or be allowed to this time

The guy built to actually beat Wilder if not for his suspect chin and now robotic style is actually AJ. He has just the right amount of power and combinations you would need to drop Deontay
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 5:57pm On Nov 26, 2019
Ibime:


That was a straight right not a jab.

In boxing terms, jab and straight right are pretty much the the same thing.
One is a straight punch with the front hand, the other is a straight punch with the rear hand.
Neither are particular efficient for generating concussive power.
The 'power shot' version of the straight right is the cross, which is where the boxer uses his hips to drive power from his feet into his punch.

And that's really the point I was getting at - which is Wilder does not need to throw the deadly shots like hooks and upper cuts to knock out his opponent.

He essentially used a basic 1-2 to knock ortiz out. He didnt sit on the punch. He didnt pull his hand back to Pluto to launch the punch. It was a simple straight punch from the shoulder. He can do it with the left hand too.

You cant say he has no jab, when his jabs are sending people home on a stretcher.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 6:04pm On Nov 26, 2019
digz:
My ballls is a talent cheesy cheesy cheesy
Three Ls.. I guess you have three scrotums... that's talent cool
You do one two with Stephanie.. she born three
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 6:05pm On Nov 26, 2019
Ibime:


Wilder can lose on points.

A fitter Fury can stay away from his haymaker and outpoint him.

No fighter can go through whole career undefeated on knockout power alone. He must box and win on points one day. Fury is best placed to give him that day.

Bro how do you stay away from someone who doesn't care about defence? cheesy

According to CompuBox statistics, Wilder landed 71 punches of 430 thrown (17%), and Fury landed 84 of his 327 thrown (26%).

Wilder threw 100 more punches than Fury, and still landed less Fury. This guy isnt trying to hide behind a guard. He will chase you anywhere you want to go. If you dont knock him out, he MUST touch you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:19pm On Nov 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


You told us Hazard will destroy Spanish farmers


Yes he didn't sign 4months contract.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 6:24pm On Nov 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


Since you are shopping for who owns which L

Who do we assign the L when Guardiola won the league with 100points to?
Who do we assign the L when he won with 98points to?

c questions...u want to give L after u refused to collect the L when VVD disgraced your apari coach and team in CL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:34pm On Nov 26, 2019
A40:
Tyson for his size hits like a fairy. That's his biggest problem and it's why his KO percentage is so low.

I daresay Wilder grossly underestimated Fury in their first fight. Truth be told I don't see how Fury wins without the fight going to the judges but I can see Wilder dropping Fury again and he might not be able to get up or be allowed to this time

The guy built to actually beat Wilder if not for his suspect chin and now robotic style is actually AJ. He has just the right amount of power and combinations you would need to drop Deontay

AJ's chin may be his albatross and also it seems Wilder has perfected that fake jab setting up that knockout punch (WK's stuff). Same stuff AJ fell to against WK.

Fury just needs to work on his stamina and frustrate Wilder all-night, Holyfield-Tyson way. Ortiz was winning on cards before that punch, which i believe Fury could still manage to win on points.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:38pm On Nov 26, 2019
CAPdan21:


c questions...u want to give L after u refused to collect the L when VVD disgraced your apari coach and team in CL

Guardiola won the League with 100points in May 2018, who takes that L?
Guardiola again won the league with 98points in May 2019, who takes that L?

Can you identify the owner of the Ls? You want to give a L for an event in 2019 but cant find the owner of those that happened before and after that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:39pm On Nov 26, 2019
nihilistjnr:


Bro how do you stay away from someone who doesn't care about defence? cheesy

According to CompuBox statistics, Wilder landed 71 punches of 430 thrown (17%), and Fury landed 84 of his 327 thrown (26%).

Wilder threw 100 more punches than Fury, and still landed less Fury. This guy isnt trying to hide behind a guard. He will chase you anywhere you want to go. If you dont knock him out, he MUST touch you.

grin grin

That's why he may soon get tagged. I will like to see how well AJ has improved defensively, in footworks and general ringcraft in his next fight, before i can put him as the man to beat the bronze bummer. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:43pm On Nov 26, 2019
A40:
Tyson for his size hits like a fairy. That's his biggest problem and it's why his KO percentage is so low.

I daresay Wilder grossly underestimated Fury in their first fight. Truth be told I don't see how Fury wins without the fight going to the judges but I can see Wilder dropping Fury again and he might not be able to get up or be allowed to this time

The guy built to actually beat Wilder if not for his suspect chin and now robotic style is actually AJ. He has just the right amount of power and combinations you would need to drop Deontay

Fury knew the game he was playing, Fury avoided getting hit while he was jabbing away at Wilder, before the last round Wilder was already frustrated and was certain to lose

I personally believe Fury deliberately took that punch to get a draw and another payday

Everyone knows Wilder is always banking on that knockout punch, You can't survive for long if you are a 1 trick pony. Boxers like Fury will play the psychology, Headbutt him, wound him up, hug him, frustrate him to avoid that killer punch, that was the same thing Hollyfield and co started doing to Tyson

In a rematch I am favouring Fury in a point decision
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:47pm On Nov 26, 2019
airmark:
Yes he didn't sign 4months contract.
Hazard has been in la Liga facing farmers and those farmers have been sodomising him regularly. A league full of farmers playing as defenders

airmark:

This is the reason hazard needs to move to madrid in 2018 to sodomise these yeye defenders. Laliga is full of farmers playing as defenders, outside of the first 4 teams.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:49pm On Nov 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


[s]Guardiola won the League with 100points in May 2018, who takes that L?
Guardiola again won the league with 98points in May 2019, who takes that L?

Can you identify the owner of the Ls? You want to give a L for an event in 2019 but cant find the owner of those that happened before and after that[/s]

Guardiola lost all the trophies he played in 2016/2017 season, you told us he only came for Ucl that other trophies were local.

Where's that UCL after 3 attempts? grin grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:51pm On Nov 26, 2019
raumdeuter:

Hazard has been in la Liga facing farmers and those farmers have been sodomising him regularly. A league full of farmers playing as defenders


Let him finish the season just as we allowed Fraudiola to finish his first season in epl, with nothing to show for it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 6:52pm On Nov 26, 2019
EruditorII:


From the same hands that brought you "I was countering the theory of relativity in my mother's womb".

You will unlook as soon as I ask you to provide any evidence about "career-threatening" injury.

The slowest thinkers still ride roughshod on this thread. See how they zeroed in on "fakes a fall" like it adds anything to the story.
Oshey Flash thinker, captain Zoom.


And with your thinking faster than light, you still went ahead to tell us that height is a talent.

Baba swerve please.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by digz: 6:52pm On Nov 26, 2019
airmark:


Eruditor na iti iboribo. grin

''Tallness is talent''. cheesy

Chaiiii.....just saw this now cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 6:54pm On Nov 26, 2019
A40:
Sometimes that is all you need. It's worked for him his last 43 fights. Who are we to question his skills when almost 40 professional boxers have failed to solve his puzzle.

I have no problem with a limited fighter that finds a way to get it done. Wilder has a durable chin and a ton of heart too so he can stay upright while trying to find his way. You can wobble him but you won't drop him. Even your Fury got caught twice and has been dancing around a rematch ever since.

If a cab man like Otto Wallin left Fury bleeding what do you think will happen when he faces a fighter who has nuclear warheads for hands. Especially considering Fury himself lacks KO power which means Wilder for all his lack of skill will always be in the fight regardless
The Fury that showed up against Wallin doesn't have a chance in hell against the Wilder and I don't want to ever see that Fury again.

I just know Wilder is limited and looking for the knock out all the time won't work on aggressive fighters or smart ones like the gypsy king. Everybody knew Fury won the first match and the draw decision was even questionable to many.

I can't believe how many heavyweights have fallen into this same trap over and over and over again, It's not like Wilder is doing anything special or different in there. It's the same thing double jab then a straight right down the windpipe.

The real question people need to ask is that this guy is a one handed fighter he can only knock you out with a right hand I am asking myself how and why no one has been able to neutralize his right hand. If the punch was coming in from a weird angle or at blinding speed then it makes sense but it isn't any of those things it's a straight right.


Compare and contrast Manny Pacquiao, back in the day Manny could only knock you out with a straight left hand this was his bread and butter punch. Then when he came into contact with JMM and after the first round JMM neutralized the effectiveness of that punch. This is why Freddie Roach prevented Manny from immediately rematching him and sought to develop Manny's right hand hence the term Manilla Ice for his right hook. The thing with Manny though at least he had blinding footspeed, great footwork, a threw loads of punches and threw them from crazy angles. Deontay, on the other hand is just basic and I get that he hits hard I understand that I really do but there are so many ways you can shut it down which Fury did to some level. At the elite level of the lighter weight classes, you need way more than just one trick to become a consistent and long term champion.

Wilder is literally a Jab and a straight right, pretty much how Klitschko was a jab jab grab fighter. Though with Wlad at least he had great boxing skills while Wilder has none.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:59pm On Nov 26, 2019
digz:


Chaiiii.....just saw this now cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Abi. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 7:00pm On Nov 26, 2019
airmark:


AJ's chin may be his albatross and also it seems Wilder has perfected that fake jab setting up that knockout punch (WK's stuff). Same stuff AJ fell to against WK.

Fury just needs to work on his stamina and frustrate Wilder all-night, Holyfield-Tyson way. Ortiz was winning on cards before that punch, which i believe Fury could still manage to win on points.

Not just his chin but his head movement and just his general inability to get out the way. He is not as nimble as Wilder and it showed vs Ruiz

Beyond the stamina I still think he is going to need to look for a knockout punch somewhere. When fighting a KO artist like Wilder it is possible but very very unlikely you're going to get away with a points decision

The problem with the Ortiz approach is a guy like Wilder knows when he is losing and he will go for broke. Something is going to have to give. You either put him down or he puts you down. Even the Tyson vs Holyfield first fight eventually ended in a KO.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 7:03pm On Nov 26, 2019
raumdeuter:
Thorvikk55

I gave you 12hours to provide the games won by Sterling in 90 +7mins
And the games Sterling dove to win penalties in the EPL

After 12hours no concrete response and evidence, Is this how you lie regularly and when asked for evidence you disappear like the fart of a leprous witch

My initial argument was that City were favoured by some referee decisions en route to their local treble but no one was busy hawking "FA and refs gave Pep the local treble"..
A good example is the Swansea game where they won with an offside goal and a blatant dive from Sterling.
Another example is how City always gets easy draws in Champions league and Cup games.
Funny enough, the instances u cited that VAR was used in City's favour are legit decisions but bcosof the fact dat tins are on a downward spiral for ur bald Apari currently, u are going on and on about a baseless conspiracy in a bid to avert a major L that'll probably befall u if Pool wins the league.
Funny enough, u might have even argued back then dat Ovrebo's refereeing decisions vs Chelsea were legit
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:08pm On Nov 26, 2019
airmark:
Let him finish the season just as we allowed Fraudiola to finish his first season in epl, with nothing to show for it.

The stake your money on Hazard scoring 30 goals in all competition vs these Spanish farmers and win easy

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