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Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Anon9876: 10:40am On Nov 27, 2019
BEFORE COMA
I have a medical condition, and of recent I went into coma. Before this happened, I was a Christian but I was already questioning a lot of things in my head. I was born in a Christian home, joined all the groups I was supposed to join in church when I was a kid back at home and I really studied the Bible. I started questioning a lot of things when I was 13 but the children pastor would always tell me to just believe and not question god. If I’m going to live my life committed to a god, dedicated to a faith, why then would I ‘just believe’ and not ask questions.
So I kept going, stopped asking questions and just believed. Continued going to church with my parents, still believed in prayer and all that.
Now I am a grown woman and still, a lot of things don’t make sense. Before I went into coma, I was really researching papers written by atheists and watching a lot of videos on atheism and deism. In my mind, I already knew there was no god and even if he existed, he doesn’t care.


My COMA EXPERIENCE.
I heard people rushing towards me as I slumped, then there was darkness but I was still hearing faintly- and then, silence. I couldn’t see anything, I didn’t remember shutting my eyes, I didn’t hear anything. I was just there, stuck in a dark place, my brain wasn’t functioning because I was thinking about anything, I was just there. Life stopped. And life only continued when I woke up and saw light. It felt peaceful, felt like I went on a break but I wasn’t even there. It felt like my life was paused and it only continued when I opened my eyes. If it was death, I would have just remained like that. In eternal darkness and silence and ever since I came out of coma, death wasn’t as scary.
I think it’s safe to say there’s no afterlife, everything we’ve been told is nothing but pieces of man made stories joined together. Once you are dead, you are dead. Nothing like heaven or hell. You go back to the darkness and silence you were before you were born. There is no god taking you to heaven anywhere, and of course, no hell.
I had a near death experience and these are my conclusions.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by 40secondsMan: 10:49am On Nov 27, 2019
ok, we have heard you.

can u now go back to your coma? undecided
Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Ola17: 10:51am On Nov 27, 2019
Sorry about your experience?

If I may ask, how long were you in a coma?
Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by CaveAdullam: 10:54am On Nov 27, 2019
TRUTH IS TRUTH AND FALSE IS FALSE. YOUR BELIEF CANNOT CHANGE ANYTHING BUT GIVES YOU A PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF A BETTER FOUNDATION ON WHICH TO STAND.

Many Christians were indoctrinated into Christianity because of their background and as a result never had the time to consider the faith they practice. Even many teachers of Christendom have many issues bothering them about their faith but are afraid or ashamed to question their faith because they don't want to be seen as hypocrites, doubters or apostates.

But the truth is that whatever that claims to be true must be open for investigations so as to ascertain its purity. Christianity is open to probing and God; The Lord Jesus Christ will not be sad if you question Him, investigate His claims and His book; The Holy Bible. This He allows and has given us a functioning brain to carryout the work.

Through the Atheists here and their atheistic claims I have gone further in investigating my Christian faith and I can confidently say I AM PROUD TO BE A CHRISTIAN.

As you press further to investigate Christianity you will perfectly observe a shift from UNREASONABLE FAITH > BLIND FAITH > REASONABLE FAITH. At this last point you will now know that Christianity works perfectly with FAITH AND LOGIC.

What does not exist does not have a name and if GOD is a name given to a supreme being then definitely He exist. Or do you know of anything that doesn't exist but have a name?

Thanks.

God bless.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Blabbermouth: 10:55am On Nov 27, 2019
What can I say?
Love, you never knew God and you were never a Christain. You only believed blindly what you were fed with since childhood and that made you a blind follower and never a christian at all.
I will be praying for you love. I can't afford another happypagan on nairaland.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 11:15am On Nov 27, 2019
Anon9876:
BEFORE COMA
I have a medical condition, and of recent I went into coma. Before this happened, I was a Christian but I was already questioning a lot of things in my head. I was born in a Christian home, joined all the groups I was supposed to join in church when I was a kid back at home and I really studied the Bible. I started questioning a lot of things when I was 13 but the children pastor would always tell me to just believe and not question god. If I’m going to live my life committed to a god, dedicated to a faith, why then would I ‘just believe’ and not ask questions.
So I kept going, stopped asking questions and just believed. Continued going to church with my parents, still believed in prayer and all that.
Now I am a grown woman and still, a lot of things don’t make sense. Before I went into coma, I was really researching papers written by atheists and watching a lot of videos on atheism and deism. In my mind, I already knew there was no god and even if he existed, he doesn’t care.


My COMA EXPERIENCE.
I heard people rushing towards me as I slumped, then there was darkness but I was still hearing faintly- and then, silence. I couldn’t see anything, I didn’t remember shutting my eyes, I didn’t hear anything. I was just there, stuck in a dark place, my brain wasn’t functioning because I was thinking about anything, I was just there. Life stopped. And life only continued when I woke up and saw light. It felt peaceful, felt like I went on a break but I wasn’t even there. It felt like my life was paused and it only continued when I opened my eyes. If it was death, I would have just remained like that. In eternal darkness and silence and ever since I came out of coma, death wasn’t as scary.
I think it’s safe to say there’s no afterlife, everything we’ve been told is nothing but pieces of man made stories joined together. Once you are dead, you are dead. Nothing like heaven or hell. You go back to the darkness and silence you were before you were born. There is no god taking you to heaven anywhere, and of course, no hell.
I had a near death experience and these are my conclusions.
You've been feeding your mind with stories of atheism, how won't you become one. Guide your heart with all diligence for out of it comes the issues of life and "as a man thinks in his heart so he is. When you fell into coma you were in between life and death, you ain't dead at all that's why it's called coma!! If you are truly dead then you will understand that there's an entirely different world beyond that darkness you got stucked in. Anyway thank God you have second chance to make a u-turn and embrace your maker, study and fill yourself with the word of God and you'll be able to understand the concept of our faith, and for your information, a lot of things won't still make sense until the second coming of Our LORD JESUS, if you study the scripture well you should have understood that by now, and the fact also is "those that knows their God will do great exploits" stay blessed, Jesus loves you.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Blabbermouth: 11:20am On Nov 27, 2019
Anon9876:
BEFORE COMA
I have a medical condition, and of recent I went into coma.......
I had a near death experience and these are my conclusions.
There was a picture being painted here but you only captured a fragment of it.
In your coma state, you died [technically] since you lost what literally makes you alive "consciousness".
"You (technically) died" ~was what you revealed. And you made the conclusion "I've seen death, and there is nothing after it". You could have been expecting angels, demons and a lot of spiritual activity going on but nothing of such. Thus, the seed of atheism that you have planted and have been nurturing found a root and is growing.
THE OTHER PART OF THE PAINTING YOU DIDN'T CATCH..
" You came back to life!!!"... You saw the fangs of death and felt its ripping paws and yet, you live!!!!
That means it is totally plausible and possible that when we die or face death, we can come back to life [like your experience].
If you have/can experience coma, the afterlife should be something you should never belittle or doubt again. Unlike coma, instead of coming back to life, in the afterlife, you find yourself at your master's feet.
That is the complete picture!!

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by HappyPagan: 11:32am On Nov 27, 2019
Blabbermouth: I can't afford another happypagan on nairaland.
Na wa o. What I do?
Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 11:40am On Nov 27, 2019
Hope you never stop asking questions.

That's one of the most important attributes of an intelligent mind, not merely believing things as most Muslims and Christians do without any logical evidence.

The ability to question all knowledge is vital to one's evolution (growth) as a human. Any knowledge you cannot question or scrutinize is bogus.

Only falsehood (of Yahweh and Allah) detests scrutiny; truth embraces questioning and skepticism.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by peggywebbs(f): 11:52am On Nov 27, 2019
It baffles me when I hear people say they were Christians and all I hear is I did this for God, I worked in the church, I asked my pastor ,I did everything I was supposed to do. That sounds like some kind of entitlement. You can't be a Christian because of all this.

I'm not a bible quoter but I will take you to the story of the Pharisee who was praying to God and telling him how he was a better man because of his works and then a commoner who was beside him was asking God for his own favour. The truth is Christianity is not really about what you have done, it is about who you are.

You felt entitled when you went into coma, you heard people who had these experiences and you felt now that you have been there let me see for myself. God doesn't work that way.

I tell people if you're looking for a puppy to dot on you get one but don't expect God to always do what you want. He sees more than you see and most importantly he sees your heart.

If you do your research well enough, you will find out that most of the people who had near death experiences and talked about the reality of God were never Christians to begin with. Their experience converted them. That is the point of any miracle or supernatural phenomenon. It is not to make you feel entitled but to bring glory to God.

You said you had questions about Christianity and you went to meet your pastor, really? I have questions about my childhood and birth, I don't go to meet my parents because they will definitely give me a biased opinion.

If you want to be a lawyer, you don't go to a law firm to ask lawyers questions and automatically become a lawyer, you study, you do your research, you get a degree and that is what knowledge is about.

You do the work. You were not committed to knowing what you believed in and readily accepted that all that you have been told was a lie because you did not even have a solid ground in your faith. Even the atheism you are embracing, have you really done the work to know its origin, or what its really about, who started it, what was on the person's mind when he led the new idea of atheism.

Any way religion is not by force, you are free to believe in what you want and also not to believe in anything. But ask yourself, if Christians are really not crazy at the end of the day and the whole idea of God and heaven is real, do you want to find yourself discovering that fact on the Christian last day?

If Christians are actually crazy and the end of the world is not real, do you really have anything to lose by believing in the existence of a God. It's a win win for me.

I embrace Christianity not because of church, title, favour from God or any thing whatsoever. I embrace the religion because it tells me to be good, it's tells me to have hope, faith, to love and to become a better version of myself. I'm not interested in having a near death experience to decide whether I want to believe in God or not. I want God to see me as a wonderful person just the way my neighbours and even strangers perceive me to be.

Challenges will come and go. It won't change how I feel because before I even believe in God, I also believe in myself.



Anon9876:
BEFORE COMA
I have a medical condition, and of recent I went into coma. Before this happened, I was a Christian but I was already questioning a lot of things in my head. I was born in a Christian home, joined all the groups I was supposed to join in church when I was a kid back at home and I really studied the Bible. I started questioning a lot of things when I was 13 but the children pastor would always tell me to just believe and not question god. If I’m going to live my life committed to a god, dedicated to a faith, why then would I ‘just believe’ and not ask questions.
So I kept going, stopped asking questions and just believed. Continued going to church with my parents, still believed in prayer and all that.
Now I am a grown woman and still, a lot of things don’t make sense. Before I went into coma, I was really researching papers written by atheists and watching a lot of videos on atheism and deism. In my mind, I already knew there was no god and even if he existed, he doesn’t care.


My COMA EXPERIENCE.
I heard people rushing towards me as I slumped, then there was darkness but I was still hearing faintly- and then, silence. I couldn’t see anything, I didn’t remember shutting my eyes, I didn’t hear anything. I was just there, stuck in a dark place, my brain wasn’t functioning because I was thinking about anything, I was just there. Life stopped. And life only continued when I woke up and saw light. It felt peaceful, felt like I went on a break but I wasn’t even there. It felt like my life was paused and it only continued when I opened my eyes. If it was death, I would have just remained like that. In eternal darkness and silence and ever since I came out of coma, death wasn’t as scary.
I think it’s safe to say there’s no afterlife, everything we’ve been told is nothing but pieces of man made stories joined together. Once you are dead, you are dead. Nothing like heaven or hell. You go back to the darkness and silence you were before you were born. There is no god taking you to heaven anywhere, and of course, no hell.
I had a near death experience and these are my conclusions.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 11:59am On Nov 27, 2019
How do we know you were not an atheist before you slipped into coma and resurrected with a new account?

Anon9876:
BEFORE COMA
I have a medical condition, and of recent I went into coma. Before this happened, I was a Christian but I was already questioning a lot of things in my head. I was born in a Christian home, joined all the groups I was supposed to join in church when I was a kid back at home and I really studied the Bible. I started questioning a lot of things when I was 13 but the children pastor would always tell me to just believe and not question god. If I’m going to live my life committed to a god, dedicated to a faith, why then would I ‘just believe’ and not ask questions.
So I kept going, stopped asking questions and just believed. Continued going to church with my parents, still believed in prayer and all that.
Now I am a grown woman and still, a lot of things don’t make sense. Before I went into coma, I was really researching papers written by atheists and watching a lot of videos on atheism and deism. In my mind, I already knew there was no god and even if he existed, he doesn’t care.


My COMA EXPERIENCE.
I heard people rushing towards me as I slumped, then there was darkness but I was still hearing faintly- and then, silence. I couldn’t see anything, I didn’t remember shutting my eyes, I didn’t hear anything. I was just there, stuck in a dark place, my brain wasn’t functioning because I was thinking about anything, I was just there. Life stopped. And life only continued when I woke up and saw light. It felt peaceful, felt like I went on a break but I wasn’t even there. It felt like my life was paused and it only continued when I opened my eyes. If it was death, I would have just remained like that. In eternal darkness and silence and ever since I came out of coma, death wasn’t as scary.
I think it’s safe to say there’s no afterlife, everything we’ve been told is nothing but pieces of man made stories joined together. Once you are dead, you are dead. Nothing like heaven or hell. You go back to the darkness and silence you were before you were born. There is no god taking you to heaven anywhere, and of course, no hell.
I had a near death experience and these are my conclusions.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 12:05pm On Nov 27, 2019
peggywebbs:
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If you do your research well enough, you will find out that most of the people who had near death experiences and talked about the reality of God were never Christians to begin with. Their experience converted them. That is the point of any miracle or supernatural phenomenon. It is not to make you feel entitled but to bring glory to God.
It is you who need to do more research about NDE and your religion.

This is a website that contains thousands of NDE stories, detailing the experiences of people that have gone through the phenomenon: https://www.nderf.org/Archives/NDERF_NDEs.html

Now, do your research using this resource (the website) and come back here to tell us how many of those people had a near-death experience and converted to your religion.

I know most of you, Yahweh's slaves, don't have the mental capability to do rigorous research about your religion like OP has done and ask questions about the trash in the Bible, you have been fed with since childhood.

It takes a certain level of intelligence to do real self-evaluation and self-criticism (which I encourage you to do), one which religions forbid.

I wonder why Christians and Muslims can't see that reading the fake and doctored stories in Qur'an and the Bible seriously reduces one's intelligence, since you are not allowed to use the head and reason about what you read critically.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Sunnystooth(m): 12:11pm On Nov 27, 2019
CaveAdullam:
TRUTH IS TRUTH AND FALSE IS FALSE. YOUR BELIEF CANNOT CHANGE ANYTHING BUT GIVES YOU A PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF A BETTER FOUNDATION ON WHICH TO STAND.

Many Christians were indoctrinated into Christianity because of their background and as a result never had the time to consider the faith they practice. Even many teachers of Christendom have many issues bothering them about their faith but are afraid or ashamed to question their faith because they don't want to be seen as hypocrites, doubters or apostates.

But the truth is that whatever that claims to be true must be open for investigations so as to ascertain its purity. Christianity is open to probing and God; The Lord Jesus Christ will not be sad if you question Him, investigate His claims and His book; The Holy Bible. This He allows and has given us a functioning brain to carryout the work.

Through the Atheists here and their atheistic claims I have gone further in investigating my Christian faith and I can confidently say I AM PROUD TO BE A CHRISTIAN.

As you press further to investigate Christianity you will perfectly observe a shift from UNREASONABLE FAITH > BLIND FAITH > REASONABLE FAITH. At this last point you will now know that Christianity works perfectly with FAITH AND LOGIC.

What does not exist does not have a name and if GOD is a name given to a supreme being then definitely He exist. Or do you know of anything that doesn't exist but have a name?

Thanks.

God bless.
Unicorn.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by peggywebbs(f): 1:09pm On Nov 27, 2019
The idea of Christianity, Religion and God came ions of years ago before our existence. Contrary to what you think, I am not the typical Christian you will find. I was born in a Christian home yes ,but I really did not have time for religion.


I believe in logic, I believe in the things I see but something changed. Like I said I'm not a typical Christian, I won't quote bible verses for you and I won't ask any pastor questions. I don't even have a denomination so don't even expect me to invite you to church.

I have a personal experience with God and thay alone is enough for me to know he exists. I had questions, I wrote them down, even as a child. I stood at times during meditation asking whether he existed.. sometimes I even blamed him when I had some disappointments. There was even a time I would tease my parents thay I'll change religion. It didn't matter to them thay I refused to go to church or pray or read my Bible.


I don't like fasting, I would rather stay all night dancing to a song Beyonce sang than do vigil and that is what I spent majority of my childhood doing. I didn't join any Christian group whether choir or anything.. after Sunday school I graduated home not because I didn't believe in God but more because I was just too lazy to go to church and found other things interesting.

I didn't believe in speaking in tongues or miracles, healing or whatever was being preached in church. In fact I would sleep throughout a church service. I remember sermon time was nap time for me. I can tell you that for 18 years I never stepped into a church except for a friend's marriage. I was still a Christian don't get me wrong but I just didn't try. I wasn't interested, life goes on. That's it.


But I started having little experiences that made me realize that ok something is here. There was a day in secondary school, I just told myself I'm not going to school, I wasn't sick ,in fact there was a test that day but it was like someone was telling me not to go. So I pulled off my uniform, and went to look for food. Barely three hours later we heard a fire, a tanker had exploded and burnt over 30 vehicles on the way to my school. The bus I usually hurried to meet up to take us to school was completely burnt, students, workers and many people died, I could have been one of them.

That was not enough, I still didn't go to church. Another one happened again, I was on my way to go out and I was singing in bathroom. Im sure trying to sound like Beyonce but it doesn't work. I leaned my head on the wall tile and had a movie flash. I saw myself in my street, some men had guns pointed at me so I turned to the opposite direction to run and saw another set of men pointing guns at me, no where to run, I shouted for my mum. I got back and said o need to stop watching action movies.

Got dressed and just as I was about to link to the main road from the street. I heard two gun shots, I ran with so much speed I didn't even bother to look back until I was under my bed. That day, a young girl hawking was walking along the road when armed robbers trying to escape were shooting to scare people, they shot the girls head to pieces.

That's not all but I could go on and on about how, hearing God saved my life. You could call it intuition but I tell you, it took me 15 years to realise what it was. As I still type, I would rather go for a live show to see cardi b than stay for vigil but I'm a Christian.

I don't doubt the existence of God and I don't believe in aliens. I am not brainwashed and I haven't picked my bible up in over a week and probably it was to confirm something I saw on nairaland. You should not base your believe on people's experiences. If you want to know, you have to keep an open mind. You can argue that Christianity is non existent with a phd thesis but that will not change the existence of God. God has been a widely talked subject from ages past...even in every lie there is an element of truth even though partial.




gensteejay:

It is you who need to do more research about NDE and your religion.

This is a website that contains thousands of NDE stories, detailing the experiences of people that have gone through the phenomenon: https://www.nderf.org/Archives/NDERF_NDEs.html

Now, do your research using this resource (the website) and come back here to tell us how many of those people had a near-death experience and converted to your religion.

I know most of you, Yahweh's slaves, don't have the mental capability to do rigorous research about your religion like OP has done and ask questions about the trash in the Bible, you have been fed with since childhood.

It takes a certain level of intelligence to do real self-evaluation and self-criticism (which I encourage you to do), one which religions forbid.

I wonder why Christians and Muslims can't see that reading the fake and doctored stories in Qur'an and the Bible seriously reduce one's intelligence, since you are not allowed to use the head and reason about what you read critically.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 1:18pm On Nov 27, 2019
peggywebbs:
The idea of Christianity, Religion and God came ions of years ago before our existence. Contrary to what you think, I am not the typical Christian you will find. I was born in a Christian home yes ,but I really did not have time for religion.


I believe in logic, I believe in the things I see but something changed. Like I said I'm not a typical Christian, I won't quote bible verses for you and I won't ask any pastor questions. I don't even have a denomination so don't even expect me to invite you to church.

I have a personal experience with God and thay alone is enough for me to know he exists. I had questions, I wrote them down, even as a child. I stood at times during meditation asking whether he existed.. sometimes I even blamed him when I had some disappointments. There was even a time I would tease my parents thay I'll change religion. It didn't matter to them thay I refused to go to church or pray or read my Bible.


I don't like fasting, I would rather stay all night dancing to a song Beyonce sang than do vigil and that is what I spent majority of my childhood doing. I didn't join any Christian group whether choir or anything.. after Sunday school I graduated home not because I didn't believe in God but more because I was just too lazy to go to church and found other things interesting.

I didn't believe in speaking in tongues or miracles, healing or whatever was being preached in church. In fact I would sleep throughout a church service. I remember sermon time was nap time for me. I can tell you that for 18 years I never stepped into a church except for a friend's marriage. I was still a Christian don't get me wrong but I just didn't try. I wasn't interested, life goes on. That's it.


But I started having little experiences that made me realize that ok something is here. There was a day in secondary school, I just told myself I'm not going to school, I wasn't sick ,in fact there was a test that day but it was like someone was telling me not to go. So I pulled off my uniform, and went to look for food. Barely three hours later we heard a fire, a tanker had exploded and burnt over 30 vehicles on the way to my school. The bus I usually hurried to meet up to take us to school was completely burnt, students, workers and many people died, I could have been one of them.

That was not enough, I still didn't go to church. Another one happened again, I was on my way to go out and I was singing in bathroom. Im sure trying to sound like Beyonce but it doesn't work. I leaned my head on the wall tile and had a movie flash. I saw myself in my street, some men had guns pointed at me so I turned to the opposite direction to run and saw another set of men pointing guns at me, no where to run, I shouted for my mum. I got back and said o need to stop watching action movies.

Got dressed and just as I was about to link to the main road from the street. I heard two gun shots, I ran with so much speed I didn't even bother to look back until I was under my bed. That day, a young girl hawking was walking along the road when armed robbers trying to escape were shooting to scare people, they shot the girls head to pieces.

That's not all but I could go on and on about how, hearing God saved my life. You could call it intuition but I tell you, it took me 15 years to realise what it was. As I still type, I would rather go for a live show to see cardi b than stay for vigil but I'm a Christian.

I don't doubt the existence of God and I don't believe in aliens. I am not brainwashed and I haven't picked my bible up in over a week and probably it was to confirm something I saw on nairaland. You should not base your believe on people's experiences. If you want to know, you have to keep an open mind. You can argue that Christianity is non existent with a phd thesis but that will not change the existence of God. God has been a widely talked subject from ages past...even in every lie there is an element of truth even though partial.




Ok. Where in my write-up did I say God doesn't exist?

God has nothing with religions, and all religions are man-made. Anybody with a basic level of intelligence can arrive at this simple conclusion by studying holy books of religions and their histories and then applying logic and intuition to everything.
Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by peggywebbs(f): 1:45pm On Nov 27, 2019
The bible is an account of historical events combined with prophecies. My response is based on your topic woke up an athiest.

I will agree with you that religion is man-made. The churches and denominations started long after the apostles and the era of Christ. We have corrupted the whole idea of religion.

The bible encourages fellowship but because of the wickedness of man ,we added politics, power, greed and other vices to religion.

The Christian church is corrupt but the Christian faith remains. I remember reading somewhere in the bible that said, heaven and earth shall pass away but the word of God will be everlasting.

Even the gospel bible tells of the time when religion will be corrupt, it talks about greedy pastors. The truth is not everybody that calls themselves a Christian is a Christian. It is a personal commitment. A person can be a rapist, kidnapper, armed robber in secret but be actively envangelising in the church. That is no reason for you to change your faith.

Like I said I don't believe in churches I don't carry religion on my head. But I won't accept aitheism either.

I believe in God and believe in the gospel of Christ. I don't believe in pastors, churches or members. They are all human and will corrupt religion. Even the boko harams that kill, the real islam followers do not embrace their ideology infact the extremists change the words of their qoran to suit their purpose.

When you hear a man kills in the name of religion, it makes him no different from the regular murderer. A crime is a crime, if a murderer starts a mosque or a church, he will kill. If a thief starts a church he will steal, if a rapists starts a church, he will rape his members. All that are crimes accountable to men not religion.




gensteejay:

Ok. Where in my write-up did I say God doesn't exist?

God has nothing with religions, and all religions are man-made. Anybody with a basic level of intelligence can arrive at this simple conclusion by studying holy books of religions and their histories and then applying logic and intuition to everything.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 2:03pm On Nov 27, 2019
peggywebbs:

The bible is an account of historical events combined with prophecies. My response is based on your topic woke up an athiest.

I will agree with you that religion is man-made. The churches and denominations started long after the apostles and the era of Christ. We have corrupted the whole idea of religion.

The bible encourages fellowship but because of the wickedness of man ,we added politics, power, greed and other vices to religion.

The Christian church is corrupt but the Christian faith remains. I remember reading somewhere in the bible that said, heaven and earth shall pass away but the word of God will be everlasting.

Even the gospel bible tells of the time when religion will be corrupt, it talks about greedy pastors. The truth is not everybody that calls themselves a Christian is a Christian. It is a personal commitment. A person can be a rapist, kidnapper, armed robber in secret but be actively envangelising in the church. That is no reason for you to change your faith.

Like I said I don't believe in churches I don't carry religion on my head. But I won't accept aitheism either.

I believe in God and believe in the gospel of Christ. I don't believe in pastors, churches or members. They are all human and will corrupt religion. Even the boko harams that kill, the real islam followers do not embrace their ideology infact the extremists change the words of their qoran to suit their purpose.

When you hear a man kills in the name of religion, it makes him no different from the regular murderer. A crime is a crime, if a murderer starts a mosque or a church, he will kill. If a thief starts a church he will steal, if a rapists starts a church, he will rape his members. All that are crimes accountable to men not religion.

How do you separate a house from its foundation?

A religion, like Islam, was built on violence and spread by the sword. How do you separate violence and terrorism from Islam, when its founder propagated the religion through wars and bloodshed?

How do you separate Christianity from the Bible, a book that encourages slavery and colonialism, anger and genocide (as exemplified by Yahweh)?

Only an indoctrinated fellow doesn't recognize the fact the books humans read and the personality of the gods they worship influence their character and personality.

If your god is vindictive like Yahweh, you would adopt the same behavior if you're a strong believer.

If your god loves killings and blood like Allah, you would also love violence like core Muslims in the North and Arab countries like Saudi, Qatar, who fund terrorist groups.

Forget Yoruba Muslims; most are not core Muslims. People that really practise the religion as their Prophet did in his lifetime are the northerners and Saudis and co.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by LordReed(m): 2:04pm On Nov 27, 2019
Tosinex:
You've been feeding your mind with stories of atheism, how won't you become one. Guide your heart with all diligence for out of it comes the issues of life and "as a man thinks in his heart so he is. When you fell into coma you were in between life and death, you ain't dead at all that's why it's called coma!! If you are truly dead then you will understand that there's an entirely different world beyond that darkness you got stucked in. Anyway thank God you have second chance to make a u-turn and embrace your maker, study and fill yourself with the word of God and you'll be able to understand the concept of our faith, and for your information, a lot of things won't still make sense until the second coming of Our LORD JESUS, if you study the scripture well you should have understood that by now, and the fact also is "those that knows their God will do great exploits" stay blessed, Jesus loves you.

I have been reading fantasy stories since I was a kid how come I haven't become a powerful mage or a dragon riding warrior? Because fantasies remain just that, fantasy. The god fantasy is just a fantasy that you must strive to maintain in your head which is why you are discouraged from learning anything that contradicts it. Has anyone ever attempted to discourage you from believing that the sun shines in the day time? No, because it is not a fantasy.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by peggywebbs(f): 2:53pm On Nov 27, 2019
gensteejay:

How do you separate a house from its foundation?

Yes you can seperate a house from its foundation and I don't mean literally. It's like a child with a proper upbringing who grows up and neglects his training and becomes somebody else. Christian faith is about love. Now, how do you spread love in a world full of hate? You can't blame religion. Our Constitution is there but people still break laws.

A religion, like Islam, was built on violence and spread by the sword. How do you separate violence and terrorism from Islam, when its founder propagated the religion through wars and bloodshed?

I don't know much about islam except the little I've read in their holy book. So I can't speak about the violence and bloodshed.



How do you separate Christianity from the Bible, a book that encourages slavery and colonialism, anger and genocide (as exemplified by Yahweh)?

Like I said the bible is about history and prophecy. When you look at the time of the Israelites it is not different from our world today. Countries and nations fight for power and territory. God did not put the Israelites in slavery. He did not knock at their enemies door and them over. Their actions led them to their situation. They had neglected their God, and the power he would have given them was not given because they did not bother to ask for help. It's the same with our world today, the generation of Israel could have sounded like you questioning the existence of God especially when they heard it's some old generation Abraham telling bedtime stories.

War has been a part of man's survival in a brutal world. God does did not fire any bows and arrows. He did not massacre anybody. The crimes of men should be held according to the hands that commited it. When a person is sentenced to death for murder, does the court kill the devil? At least most people say, its the devil that made them do it. Religion never killed anybody.

The new testament, did the apostles carry a bow and arrow? They were killed by who? The people. The powerful government came after Jesus when he heard a king had been born. He thought someone was coming for his throne and killed every new born. Was that God or religion? So you need to separate the crime from the faith. It is man that holds the weapons.



Only an indoctrinated fellow doesn't recognize the fact the books humans read and the personality of the gods they worship influence their character and personality.

I wake up in the morning, I can decide to have my bath or not. Nobody is stopping me. I have free will. The bible talks about love, the human emotions carry jealousy, envy, greed, gluttony, everything the bible talks against. The words of the bible won't stop anyone from doing anything, you can choose to listen or you can go ahead and sin. The gospel is clear, repent and be saved. I don't see how that influences anyone negatively. The bible says, when someone slaps you turn the left cheek. Tell me when you throw the punch in response where did you get that from? Definitely not the bible. But the law of Israelites, not God? An eye for an eye
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If your god is vindictive like Yahweh, you would adopt the same behavior if you're a strong believer.

God is not vindictive, I see nairalanders cursing God everyday, none of them has been struck by lightning. If God is was really vindictive like you believe, you would not survive opening this thread. Humans are the ones with emotions, they think of revenge. Like I said violence is attributed to man, for power, position, wealth and women not religion unless it is profitable to them
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If your god loves killings and blood like Allah, you would also love violence like core Muslims in the North and Arab countries like Saudi, Qatar, who fund terrorist groups.

God has never killed anyone. He has never shed blood but he protects his people. I don't see God terrorising anybody. I only see human beings terrorising themselves.

Forget Yoruba Muslims; most are not core Muslims. People that really practise the religion as their Prophet did in his lifetime are the northerners and Saudis and co.

Everyone is prone to be an extremist..the only difference is we make different choices..some are killers others are not. It is not God or religion that carries the weapon but man.

Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by LordReed(m): 3:05pm On Nov 27, 2019
Anon9876:
BEFORE COMA
I have a medical condition, and of recent I went into coma. Before this happened, I was a Christian but I was already questioning a lot of things in my head. I was born in a Christian home, joined all the groups I was supposed to join in church when I was a kid back at home and I really studied the Bible. I started questioning a lot of things when I was 13 but the children pastor would always tell me to just believe and not question god. If I’m going to live my life committed to a god, dedicated to a faith, why then would I ‘just believe’ and not ask questions.
So I kept going, stopped asking questions and just believed. Continued going to church with my parents, still believed in prayer and all that.
Now I am a grown woman and still, a lot of things don’t make sense. Before I went into coma, I was really researching papers written by atheists and watching a lot of videos on atheism and deism. In my mind, I already knew there was no god and even if he existed, he doesn’t care.


My COMA EXPERIENCE.
I heard people rushing towards me as I slumped, then there was darkness but I was still hearing faintly- and then, silence. I couldn’t see anything, I didn’t remember shutting my eyes, I didn’t hear anything. I was just there, stuck in a dark place, my brain wasn’t functioning because I was thinking about anything, I was just there. Life stopped. And life only continued when I woke up and saw light. It felt peaceful, felt like I went on a break but I wasn’t even there. It felt like my life was paused and it only continued when I opened my eyes. If it was death, I would have just remained like that. In eternal darkness and silence and ever since I came out of coma, death wasn’t as scary.
I think it’s safe to say there’s no afterlife, everything we’ve been told is nothing but pieces of man made stories joined together. Once you are dead, you are dead. Nothing like heaven or hell. You go back to the darkness and silence you were before you were born. There is no god taking you to heaven anywhere, and of course, no hell.
I had a near death experience and these are my conclusions.

I do hope you are much better and have recovered well from your ailment.

There is nothing like becoming mature, leaving behind comforting fairytales and confronting the universe on your own terms. You will live and prosper as long as you do what it takes to survive which you are absolutely geared to make a success of.

Goodluck fellow traveller.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 3:08pm On Nov 27, 2019
jesusjnr:
How do we know you were not an atheist before you slipped into coma and resurrected into a new account?


You are asking questions, why did you not just believe the story?... Now your brain is working over time, but if it is Mary that got pregnant without a man's sperm, you will believe it.... Akpakpu like you..

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 3:16pm On Nov 27, 2019
[quote author=peggywebbs post=84413887][/quote]

Everything you said is divorced from reality.

It's OK. I don't discuss religions any longer with religionists due to their indoctrination and their penchance for ignoring obvious facts.

That could be a waste of time.

I only discuss organized religion with those that have started asking questions regarding their religion.

Good luck with your beliefs.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 5:00pm On Nov 27, 2019
LordReed:


I have been reading fantasy stories since I was a kid how come I haven't become a powerful mage or a dragon riding warrior? Because fantasies remain just that, fantasy. The god fantasy is just a fantasy that you must strive to maintain in your head which is why you are discouraged from learning anything that contradicts it. Has anyone ever attempted to discourage you from believing that the sun shines in the day time? No, because it is not a fantasy.
you see the bible stories as fantasies cos you read only letters! The letter killeth but the spirit gives life. If you don't open up your self to the outpouring of His Spirit, you won't be able to see beyond the fantasies you'll never ride on. The sun doesn't shines in the day time, it shines everytime, every minute, every seconds, and it shines brilliantly, the sides the earth throws to it, it's what makes it a daytime, and the sides it back away from it, it's what makes it nighttime!! Those in the night time can argue and claim that the sun has stopped shining and gone to sleep or even dead, but they are wrong and ignorant. So Stop backing away from the sun of righteousness and let his light penetrate and redeem your soul.
Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 5:50pm On Nov 27, 2019
[quote author=Tosinex post=84417511]you see the bible stories as fantasies cos you read only letters! The letter killeth but the spirit gives life. If you don't open up your self to the outpouring of His Spirit, you won't be able to see beyond the fantasies you'll never ride on. The sun doesn't shines in the day time, it shines everytime, every minute, every seconds, and it shines brilliantly, the sides the earth throws to it, it's what makes it a daytime, and the sides it back away from it, it's what makes it nighttime!! Those in the night time can argue and claim that the sun has stopped shining and gone to sleep or even dead, but they are wrong and ignorant. So Stop backing away from the sun of righteousness and let his light penetrate and redeem your soul. [/quote]

The soul is of God and from God.. So it is God, what does God need saving from..
Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 5:51pm On Nov 27, 2019
[quote author=Tosinex post=84417511]you see the bible stories as fantasies cos you read only letters! The letter killeth but the spirit gives life. If you don't open up your self to the outpouring of His Spirit, you won't be able to see beyond the fantasies you'll never ride on. The sun doesn't shines in the day time, it shines everytime, every minute, every seconds, and it shines brilliantly, the sides the earth throws to it, it's what makes it a daytime, and the sides it back away from it, it's what makes it nighttime!! Those in the night time can argue and claim that the sun has stopped shining and gone to sleep or even dead, but they are wrong and ignorant. So Stop backing away from the sun of righteousness and let his light penetrate and redeem your soul. [/[quote]

The soul is of God and from God.. So it is God, what does God need saving from..
Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by LordReed(m): 6:52pm On Nov 27, 2019
Tosinex:
you see the bible stories as fantasies cos you read only letters! The letter killeth but the spirit gives life. If you don't open up your self to the outpouring of His Spirit, you won't be able to see beyond the fantasies you'll never ride on. The sun doesn't shines in the day time, it shines everytime, every minute, every seconds, and it shines brilliantly, the sides the earth throws to it, it's what makes it a daytime, and the sides it back away from it, it's what makes it nighttime!! Those in the night time can argue and claim that the sun has stopped shining and gone to sleep or even dead, but they are wrong and ignorant. So Stop backing away from the sun of righteousness and let his light penetrate and redeem your soul.

The question was simple, has anyone ever attempted to discourage you from believing that the sun shines in the day time? Where in it did I mention anything about night? This is how you dribble yourself into a delusion. What you should stop backing away from is the fact that this world operates without the intervention of any unseen beings.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 7:08pm On Nov 27, 2019

The soul is of God and from God.. So it is God,
therefore give unto God what belongs to God..


what does God need saving from
Soul as a God Needs saving from the darkness he turned to, which has crept into him, slowly eating and destroying him away. Therefore turn to the sun of righteousness and let him penetrate and redeem your soul.
Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 7:17pm On Nov 27, 2019
LordReed:


The question was simple, has anyone ever attempted to discourage you from believing that the sun shines in the day time? Where in it did I mention anything about night? This is how you dribble yourself into a delusion. What you should stop backing away from is the fact that this world operates without the intervention of any unseen beings.
your question wasn't complete cos of your limited knowledge, that's why I helped you to expand it from length to length.

For the quoted, that's how far you know, I wouldn't like to interfere. It is of God's glory to keep a secret, and the honor of Kings to search it out.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by LordReed(m): 8:10pm On Nov 27, 2019
Tosinex:
your question wasn't complete cos of your limited knowledge, that's why I helped you to expand it from length to length.

For the quoted, that's how far you know, I wouldn't like to interfere. It is of God's glory to keep a secret, and the honor of Kings to search it out.

My question didn't need an expansion thank you very much.

Yes, it is the glory of Harry Potter to defeat Lord Voldemort, it is the honour of friends to help him do it.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by Nobody: 10:32pm On Nov 27, 2019
sonmvayina:


You are asking questions, why did you not just believe the story?... Now your brain is working over time, but if it is Mary that got pregnant without a man's sperm, you will believe it.... Akpakpu like you..
It's better not to have a brain, than to have one and not believe the Truth. #wasteofabrain

You have a brain working overtime to believe that man's sperm could impregnate a woman, but you suddenly go brain-dead/slip into a coma when it comes to the Maker of man's whole body and whatever man's body consists of inclusive of his sperm, being able to make a woman pregnant without a man's sperm.

Of course you already know the Truth, wink but you're only here to work for your master the devil, and take away the Truth from peoples heart so that he could accomplish the only purpose he comes to man, which is to steal, kill, and destroy.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by jcross19: 12:46am On Nov 28, 2019
Anon9876:
BEFORE COMA
I have a medical condition, and of recent I went into coma. Before this happened, I was a Christian but I was already questioning a lot of things in my head. I was born in a Christian home, joined all the groups I was supposed to join in church when I was a kid back at home and I really studied the Bible. I started questioning a lot of things when I was 13 but the children pastor would always tell me to just believe and not question god. If I’m going to live my life committed to a god, dedicated to a faith, why then would I ‘just believe’ and not ask questions.
So I kept going, stopped asking questions and just believed. Continued going to church with my parents, still believed in prayer and all that.
Now I am a grown woman and still, a lot of things don’t make sense. Before I went into coma, I was really researching papers written by atheists and watching a lot of videos on atheism and deism. In my mind, I already knew there was no god and even if he existed, he doesn’t care.


My COMA EXPERIENCE.
I heard people rushing towards me as I slumped, then there was darkness but I was still hearing faintly- and then, silence. I couldn’t see anything, I didn’t remember shutting my eyes, I didn’t hear anything. I was just there, stuck in a dark place, my brain wasn’t functioning because I was thinking about anything, I was just there. Life stopped. And life only continued when I woke up and saw light. It felt peaceful, felt like I went on a break but I wasn’t even there. It felt like my life was paused and it only continued when I opened my eyes. If it was death, I would have just remained like that. In eternal darkness and silence and ever since I came out of coma, death wasn’t as scary.
I think it’s safe to say there’s no afterlife, everything we’ve been told is nothing but pieces of man made stories joined together. Once you are dead, you are dead. Nothing like heaven or hell. You go back to the darkness and silence you were before you were born. There is no god taking you to heaven anywhere, and of course, no hell.
I had a near death experience and these are my conclusions.
trash ! pure lies I mean gigantic one ooooh.

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Re: Went Into Coma A Christian; Came Out An Atheist. by MuttleyLaff: 1:01am On Nov 28, 2019
jesusjnr:
How do we know you were not an atheist before you slipped into coma and resurrected with a new account?

sonmvayina:
You are asking questions, why did you not just believe the story?... Now your brain is working over time, but if it is Mary that got pregnant without a man's sperm, you will believe it.... Akpakpu like you..
You dont believe the registered today, on Nov 27 2019, at 3:57pm Nairaland account OP cọck-and-bull story, but believe Mary got pregnant without a man's sperm because the same God involved, made, menopaused Sarah get pregnant, by an impotent Abraham hundred-year-old body that ordinarily could never no more father a child.

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