nihilistjnr:


Did you watch the video? This is what I was telling Ibime about 1-2s

Most boxers would do what Ortiz did and take the 1-2 because it's not a knockout combination in 99% of scenarios thrown.

When Ortiz got dropped, he was actually protecting himself from the right hook, not a straight cross. He did not even see the punch coming.

Regarding the bolded, Baba, Teddy Atlas already flagged all of this years ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOHGc9x-uW8

Atlas predicted that Wilder would be defeated soon due to his lack of technique.

3 years after, Wilder is still here anointing niggas

The power that this guy has in his hands is unprecedented. You cant hope to outbox him. He is not a boxer.

If you dont kill him, he will kill you.

nihilistjnr:


Steelhammer no get Chin though.

I would have Prime Vitali over Wladimir tbh, because he was the more complete package.

But that Wilder's hand be like nuclear bomb

airmark:


Steelhammer dazed Wilder in sparring sessions and Wilder's team whisked him away from the Ukranian as long as they could.

Yes Vitali was more complete.

nihilistjnr:


Forget all that one o.

Obviously, Wilder isnt trying too hard in sparring at the champs training camp

Person wey no get technique, only KOs, and hes not allowed to use his KO ability, what do you expect really?

It was fury that said wlad disciplined deontay, but fury beat wlad, and got dropped twice by wilder.

Audley Harrison used Wilder in his camp against David Price, and Wilder injured but didn't ko him.

When they met in the ring properly, wilder officially ended his career.

Bro I used to be standing on your ledge before, that a technical boxer would eat wilder alive.

Now I'm off that...that guys hand is the equalizer

nihilistjnr:


Forget all that one o.

Obviously, Wilder isnt trying too hard in sparring at the champs training camp

Person wey no get technique, only KOs, and hes not allowed to use his KO ability, what do you expect really?

It was fury that said wlad disciplined deontay, but fury beat wlad, and got dropped twice by wilder.

Audley Harrison used Wilder in his camp against David Price, and Wilder injured but didn't ko him.

When they met in the ring properly, wilder officially ended his career.

Bro I used to be standing on your ledge before, that a technical boxer would eat wilder alive.

Now I'm off that...that guys hand is the equalizer

Amoto94:

It is possible for Levante to beat Barcelona but lose to Sociedad, that Chelsea couldn't beat Valencia over two legs doesn't mean that they will fare worse against Barcelona. The worst Chelsea side in recent history won against Barcelona in 2012 and the last time they met in faraway Japan you know the outcome right

airmark:


The lack of longer reach won't give pygmies any chance against Wilder. Only if Ortiz had the reach and punching power of Dr Steelhammer, he would have won it before the 7th round.

It's a matter of time.

afrodoc2:


If ball no kill am one of you guys here fit do the job for the peoples.

A40:
Breazale and Stiverne aren't pygmies.

Forget Dr Steel hammer. His era was one the wackest in Heavyweight history. We saw his punching power vs Fury where he barely touched him all 12 rounds. Wilder has his weaknesses but 10 title defenses tells me he hasn't been exposed yet

Godx:



Wilder has scary power, but lets not get carried away and act like every second of every fight is just according to Wilder's plan. He was getting outboxed, and he was losing rounds. If that's a professional fighter's gameplan, it's not a commendable one even given Wilder's power. That sort of tactic will work until it doesn't, and it almost didn't against Fury. He will soon gets his long over due L come February 22nd.

A40:
Breazale and Stiverne aren't pygmies.

Forget Dr Steel hammer. His era was one the wackest in Heavyweight history. We saw his punching power vs Fury where he barely touched him all 12 rounds. Wilder has his weaknesses but 10 title defenses tells me he hasn't been exposed yet

Godx:


Well he has been fighting bums all along. He was fighting unranked cruiserweights in his 20th bout and his title defences have been a joke up until the last 4 fights . Most of his 10 title defense have been against bums, with the exception of Fury (who beat him) and Ortiz (who is pushing 70).

He has been outboxed by the likes of Washington, Szpilka and was 5-1 down on my card against an old man Ortiz before he got the KO. Thing about Wilder, he's the only boxer that is always getting outboxed, yet you always know he's gona win in the end.

nihilistjnr:


You have a very good point here, but let's not forget that Fury also needed the refs help to draw that fight.

The Koko here is that unfortunately it doesn't look like there is anybody in the division currently that can exploit his weaknesses.

Imagine outboxing a nigga for 7 rounds and still going home in a body bag.

I mean where do you go from there?

Godx:

Wilder has scary power, but lets not get carried away and act like every second of every fight is just according to Wilder's plan. He was getting outboxed, and he was losing rounds. If that's a professional fighter's gameplan, it's not a commendable one even given Wilder's power. That sort of tactic will work until it doesn't, and it almost didn't against Fury. He will soon gets his long over due L come February 22nd.

nihilistjnr:


Ortiz was unbeaten before he met Wilder

Wilder took his O, and gave him the 2 Ls of his career.

So please stop saying Ortiz is old like that's an excuse. Why is no-one else beating his old äss then?

A40:
He said if himself. He just needs two seconds of perfection. I think if you can defend your belt 10 times you're surely doing something right

It's not about getting outboxed. Wilder is a KO artist and not a boxer. This man has been in 43 fights, only two has gone the distance. This man is not out to win rounds or outbox you he's out to knock you the fuq out

The Fury I saw vs Wallin has a lottt of work to do. He will have to go for the K.O this time else there is no guarantee he would rise from another knockdown

Knockout artists rarely ever lose on points you either knock them out or get knocked out

Godx:


Well he has been fighting bums all along. He was fighting unranked cruiserweights in his 20th bout and his title defences have been a joke up until the last 4 fights . Most of his 10 title defense have been against bums, with the exception of Fury (who beat him) and Ortiz (who is pushing 70).

He has been outboxed by the likes of Washington, Szpilka and was 5-1 down on my card against an old man Ortiz before he got the KO. Thing about Wilder, he's the only boxer that is always getting outboxed, yet you always know he's gona win in the end.

A40:
Let's agree he has been fighting bums (same applies to Fury anyway) in fact the only guy who has consistently fought top 10-20 heavies is actually AJ

Ahhh there you go with this outboxing business again. Deontay Wilder is not a boxer, I mean people talked about Tyson lacking boxing skills and being a bruiser. Wilder is even worse but unlike Tyson he doesn't even need a combo to drop you flat on your back

What good is your boxing skills if you can't avoid Wilder's right?

Godx:

Rematch between Fury and Wilder has been officially fixed for the 22nd of February. Who are you rooting for?

Godx:

Ortiz has always ran away from the mandatories.
You can't avoid mandatories and he could have easily forced his way into a championship fight long before fighting Wilder if he wasn't a chicken.

Ortiz has never been avoided but rather he was avoiding everyone to pad his undefeated record. And then it was fed to Wilder, twice. If Ortiz is thrown into a ring with someone like Povetkin he will be exposed as a fake buggy man and then the two wins Wilder has over him will look quite bad and ordinary.

Godx:

Agreed AJ boxing resumen has been impressive.


Maybe I am putting too much emphasis on “boxing” and not enough on winning. Wilder is at the top because he has the tools to win, which at the end of the day is all that matters I just like my boxers to be technically gifted.

nihilistjnr:


Which Povetkin?

Just out of interest, who did Ortiz duck?

This is news to me

A40:
The one guy I still believe can decisively beat Wilder is AJ. If he can work on his defense. The suspect chin is not going anywhere but with improved defense he can at least stay upright till he gets a chance to land that uppercut or use his combos. I just don't see Wilder as a guy you get into the ring hoping to outbox

Godx:

Joshua and his manager offered him 7million, ten times his biggest payday but he refused.

Godx:

Ortiz has always ran away from the mandatories.
You can't avoid mandatories and he could have easily forced his way into a championship fight long before fighting Wilder if he wasn't a chicken.
.

afrodoc2:


AJ and Wilder will definitely not go the distance. It will just be a matter of who gets lucky first (a bit like Marciano vs Walcott 1) , with AJ having great power and the better combos and Wilder having the the more durable chin and the ultimate power.
I just can't get the picture of AJ smiling sheepishly in the ring after being dazed by Ruiz out of my head. The guy fall our national hand with that display.

AJ's guard is not great, he does not move his head enough, and when he gets tapped he has does not have a chin. That is a triad of problems you shouldn't have in heavyweight boxing.

Godx:

Joshua and his manager offered him 7million, ten times his biggest payday but he refused.

nihilistjnr:


You goddam right

Agbara Nla

Godx:

I swear my guy this was what I was tell A40. He has so many weaknesses that I don't know why others are not taking advantages of. Joshua will be a good match up and even Ruiz. He ate some serious headshots from Parker and Joshua and still kept going. I know Wilder's power is god level but so is ruiz 's chin also.

afrodoc2:


It was at short notice to replace Jarrell Miller. Who knows what shape Ortiz was in? Not everybody can fight fat like Ruiz

PLUS I would take anything Eddie Hearn says with a bag of salt. That guy is as slimy as they come.

afrodoc2:


It was at short notice to replace Jarrell Miller. Who knows what shape Ortiz was in? Not everybody can fight fat like Ruiz

PLUS I would take anything Eddie Hearn says with a bag of salt. That guy is as slimy as they come.

Godx:

I think it was confirmed by both camp

It was over 5 weeks, it wasn’t long after his previous fight so he should have been fit enough, it was more than enough time for Ruiz.