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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:53am On Nov 28, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: Yes, i watched it. Ortiz was successfully slipping his shots, his short hands did him in. Wilder ducked an active WK for a reason. And Tyson Fury's style cancels out Wilder's but he's a 'fuke fuke' puncher. If not for AJ's wack defence, Wilder won't last 5 rounds with these reckless punches. I still believe one of Fury and AJ may give him L. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:56am On Nov 28, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: Steelhammer dazed Wilder in sparring sessions and Wilder's team whisked him away from the Ukranian as long as they could. Yes Vitali was more complete. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:22am On Nov 28, 2019 |
airmark: Forget all that one o. Obviously, Wilder isnt trying too hard in sparring at the champs training camp Person wey no get technique, only KOs, and hes not allowed to use his KO ability, what do you expect really? It was fury that said wlad disciplined deontay, but fury beat wlad, and got dropped twice by wilder. Audley Harrison used Wilder in his camp against David Price, and Wilder injured but didn't ko him. When they met in the ring properly, wilder officially ended his career. Bro I used to be standing on your ledge before, that a technical boxer would eat wilder alive. Now I'm off that...that guys hand is the equalizer 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 11:30am On Nov 28, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: Wilder has scary power, but lets not get carried away and act like every second of every fight is just according to Wilder's plan. He was getting outboxed, and he was losing rounds. If that's a professional fighter's gameplan, it's not a commendable one even given Wilder's power. That sort of tactic will work until it doesn't, and it almost didn't against Fury. He will soon gets his long over due L come February 22nd. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:31am On Nov 28, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: Ok. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Astark: 11:38am On Nov 28, 2019 |
Amoto94:worst Chelsea side on recent history? you are really clown. Although they won but was completely out played by Barcelona, that day was just luck. Barcelona was without form this season that's why most if not all of their goals were from set pieces. They've gotten their form back and msg now understand each other now than ever. If we ever face Chelsea, rip will be the case |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:07pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
airmark:Breazale and Stiverne aren't pygmies. Forget Dr Steel hammer. His era was one the wackest in Heavyweight history. We saw his punching power vs Fury where he barely touched him all 12 rounds. Wilder has his weaknesses but 10 title defenses tells me he hasn't been exposed yet |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:14pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:15pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
A40: Well he has been fighting bums all along. He was fighting unranked cruiserweights in his 20th bout and his title defences have been a joke up until the last 4 fights . Most of his 10 title defense have been against bums, with the exception of Fury (who beat him) and Ortiz (who is pushing 70). He has been outboxed by the likes of Washington, Szpilka and was 5-1 down on my card against an old man Ortiz before he got the KO. Thing about Wilder, he's the only boxer that is always getting outboxed, yet you always know he's gona win in the end. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:20pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx: You have a very good point here, but let's not forget that Fury also needed the refs help to draw that fight. The Koko here is that unfortunately it doesn't look like there is anybody in the division currently that can exploit his weaknesses. Imagine outboxing a nigga for 7 rounds and still going home in a body bag. I mean where do you go from there? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:23pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
A40: Washed-up Breazle and inferior version of Samuel Peters, called Stiverne? When Steelhammer was active, Wilder avoided him throughout. His team made it known publicly. Wilder only fought two top fighters in weak-puncher, Fury and 60+yr old Cuban. So 10yr title defenses against what type of oppositions?. Wilder ducked Klitschko: WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder (33-0, 32KOs) is still very much a work in progress, says his co-manager Shelly Finkel. After last Saturday's world title win over Bermane Stiverne, the hype began growing for a fight between Wilder and WBO/WBA/IBO/IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko. Finkel, who manages Wilder with Al Haymon and Jay Deas, also works closely with Klitschko. He says there is no need to rush Wilder into big fights against the best of the division; that despite a world title he still needs time to grow and groom his skills. “Look, (Wilder) is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things, he could go and Povetkin (the No. 2 contender) in Russia and make $10 million,” Finkel said to the Tuscaloosa News. “It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.” Finkel managed him well, by chosing cab drivers and plumbers to get his numbers up. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:26pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx: Ortiz was unbeaten before he met Wilder Wilder took his O, and gave him the 2 Ls of his career. So please stop saying Ortiz is old like that's an excuse. Why is no-one else beating his old äss then? 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:29pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
nihilistjnr:I swear my guy this was what I was tell A40. He has so many weaknesses that I don't know why others are not taking advantages of. Joshua will be a good match up and even Ruiz. He ate some serious headshots from Parker and Joshua and still kept going. I know Wilder's power is god level but so is ruiz 's chin also. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:34pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx:He said if himself. He just needs two seconds of perfection. I think if you can defend your belt 10 times you're surely doing something right It's not about getting outboxed. Wilder is a KO artist and not a boxer. This man has been in 43 fights, only two has gone the distance. This man is not out to win rounds or outbox you he's out to knock you the fuq out The Fury I saw vs Wallin has a lottt of work to do. He will have to go for the K.O this time else there is no guarantee he would rise from another knockdown Knockout artists rarely ever lose on points you either knock them out or get knocked out |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:37pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
nihilistjnr:Ortiz has always ran away from the mandatories. You can't avoid mandatories and he could have easily forced his way into a championship fight long before fighting Wilder if he wasn't a chicken. Ortiz has never been avoided but rather he was avoiding everyone to pad his undefeated record. And then it was fed to Wilder, twice. If Ortiz is thrown into a ring with someone like Povetkin he will be exposed as a fake buggy man and then the two wins Wilder has over him will look quite bad and ordinary. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:40pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
A40:Rematch between Fury and Wilder has been officially fixed for the 22nd of February. Who are you rooting for? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:44pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx:Let's agree he has been fighting bums (same applies to Fury anyway) in fact the only guy who has consistently fought top 10-20 heavies is actually AJ Ahhh there you go with this outboxing business again. Deontay Wilder is not a boxer, I mean people talked about Tyson lacking boxing skills and being a bruiser. Wilder is even worse but unlike Tyson he doesn't even need a combo to drop you flat on your back What good is your boxing skills if you can't avoid Wilder's right? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:51pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
A40:Agreed AJ boxing resumen has been impressive. Maybe I am putting too much emphasis on “boxing” and not enough on winning. Wilder is at the top because he has the tools to win, which at the end of the day is all that matters I just like my boxers to be technically gifted. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:56pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx:Yeah I know. Who am I rooting for? I like both fighters I like their personality and the fact that they are the perfect foils for each other but I have very primitive tastes. I am likely to root for the guy that will baptize his opponent. It's why I'm a huge fan of Ngannou |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:59pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx: Which Povetkin? Just out of interest, who did Ortiz duck? This is news to me |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 1:00pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx:The one guy I still believe can decisively beat Wilder is AJ. If he can work on his defense. The suspect chin is not going anywhere but with improved defense he can at least stay upright till he gets a chance to land that uppercut or use his combos. I just don't see Wilder as a guy you get into the ring hoping to outbox |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 1:14pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
nihilistjnr:Joshua and his manager offered him 7million, ten times his biggest payday but he refused. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:18pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
A40: AJ and Wilder will definitely not go the distance. It will just be a matter of who gets lucky first (a bit like Marciano vs Walcott 1) , with AJ having great power and the better combos and Wilder having the the more durable chin and the ultimate power. I just can't get the picture of AJ smiling sheepishly in the ring after being dazed by Ruiz out of my head. The guy fall our national hand with that display. AJ's guard is not great, he does not move his head enough, and when he gets tapped he has does not have a chin. That is a triad of problems you shouldn't have in heavyweight boxing. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 1:29pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx: Bro, you said he's always ducked his mandatories here Godx: That's what I'm asking about. AJ was not a mandatory to Ortiz, so who are these mandatories he has ducked? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 1:31pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
afrodoc2: You goddam right Agbara Nla |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:31pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx: It was at short notice to replace Jarrell Miller. Who knows what shape Ortiz was in? Not everybody can fight fat like Ruiz PLUS I would take anything Eddie Hearn says with a bag of salt. That guy is as slimy as they come. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:38pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: Na real agbara nla. The best guarantee to beat Wilder is a jab exponent with a granite George Chuvalo or Ali like chin. Jabbing him to oblivion and withstanding his punches will strip him of his self belief. This is why i think Fury is the best bet against him. Reach, jabbing ability, granite chin are all checked in Fury's box. The question is which Fury will appear on the day. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 1:41pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx:Ruiz has a chin but I still think he took AJ by surprise. AJ did not have a plan going into that fight and it showed The second fight will tell if Ruiz is for real or not. Lennox was dropped by McCall and Lennox and went ahead to avenge his losses. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 2:09pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
afrodoc2: And Ortiz had just been KOd by Wilder. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Tarabye: 2:09pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 2:59pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
afrodoc2:I think it was confirmed by both camp It was over 5 weeks, it wasn’t long after his previous fight so he should have been fit enough, it was more than enough time for Ruiz. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 3:05pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Godx: Ortiz camp said he was offered little money, AJ ‘s camp said it was 7m. Like i said before, the fact that Ruiz did it does not mean a 40yr old should do it Anyway your claim was that Ortiz has been ducking mandatories. This AJ story does not qualify, and even if true a single event does not confirm a trend. |
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