justwise:


Show me where in student visa guideline that it mentioned that a mother can not sponsor her son and daughter inlaw when the son is the main applicant.

Justwise:
You have provided valuable advice to people on this platform. You have done a good job.
Keep it up.
Please I beg you in God’s name, don’t give this kind of advice.

This is capable of making this guy to be refused a visa.
What is wrong with advising him to tell his mother to transfer the money to his account?

Based on what you are saying, anyone can provide a statement and write a cover letter for dependant visa for anyone.
Is that correct?

iamfelixy:
My school sent 2 CAS to me,I paid €4000 it reflects on the first CAS, AND €3975 on the second cas, stating that charges has been deducted.

Please guys would there be issues if I go with the one stating €4000

Which one was sent last?
What was the other information provided when they sent the second one?
Why would you want to use the first when there has been a second (which may suggest that the first was an error?)


My candid advise:
Send an email to the school and ask them why they sent you 2 different CAS and which one are you supposed to use.
(Eventhough I have a feeling you know that the second over-rode the first, but you just want to test the waters).

Unfanthomable:
lol.....Battle of the ........................

To the person that asked the question, I hope you are not left more confused.....

To be safer, just let your mother transfer the money to you... Keep if for 28 days, print your statement and apply...Except if you have time constraints then you can use hers but ask yourself if they refuse you, won't you still wait?

No point going back and forth over this issue

justwise:


Why not, as long as the money is enough for the couple, transfer the money to the main applicant's account and apply together.

It will not be out of place for the embassy to have some doubt about the possibility of the mother expending that much on her son and daughter inlaw. To clear that..pay the fees and drop deposit for accommodation.

Lastly..during the interview main applicant should be able to explain if asked what the mother does for job and that the money will be available for them to be spent in the UK.

I said this in my first reply here but it seems that people don't read that part

BouharryArtikou:



Justwise:
You have provided valuable advice to people on this platform. You have done a good job.
Keep it up.
Please I beg you in God’s name, don’t give this kind of advice.

This is capable of making this guy to be refused a visa.
What is wrong with advising him to tell his mother to transfer the money to his account?

Based on what you are saying, anyone can provide a statement and write a cover letter for dependant visa for anyone.
Is that correct?

You are obviously deliberately misleading people here because i never say that and i also stated that the mother can transfer the money into the son's account then they can apply together, did you read that part?

There its again

justwise:


Why not, as long as the money is enough for the couple, transfer the money to the main applicant's account and apply together.

It will not be out of place for the embassy to have some doubt about the possibility of the mother expending that much on her son and daughter inlaw. To clear that..pay the fees and drop deposit for accommodation.

Lastly..during the interview main applicant should be able to explain if asked what the mother does for job and that the money will be available for them to be spent in the UK.

One of the reasons why i hardly type lengthy answers here is because people can't be bothered to read beyond two lines.


You completely misconstrue everything i wrote here for reasons best know to you

LaaJiblik:


Which one was sent last?
What was the other information provided when they sent the second one?
Why would you want to use the first when there has been a second (which may suggest that the first was an error?)


My candid advise:
Send an email to the school and ask them why they sent you 2 different CAS and which one are you supposed to use.
(Eventhough I have a feeling you know that the second over-rode the first, but you just want to test the waters).

Hummm, thank you for taking Ur time, I would better contact the school, because I have even booked the Visa appointment before getting the second CAS which states 3975 instead of €4000
I suppose the €25 difference is bank charges

LaaJiblik:



Okay ohh.
Justwise has changed the guidelines to now allow sons and daughter in-laws to use the bank statement of their mother-in-laws to apply for tier-4 dependant visa.

Let me ququ ma go and use my father’s bank account to apply for dependant visa for my son.

All I need to do (according to Justwise) is for my dad to write a letter that the money in HIS account is available for his GRANDSON whose father is a Tier-4 applicant himself.

If that is your understanding then great go ahead and do that

justwise:




I said this in my first reply here but it seems that people don't read that part

How can you give a sound advice in paragraph 1.
Then go ahead to give a rubbish advise in paragraph 4.
Then proceed to insist, even after several to-and-fro that a daughter in law can use a mother in law’s bank statement?

Nobody is disputing your first advice. It’s the second part of your advice that is not right.

justwise:
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If that is your understanding then great go ahead and do that

I don’t need to do that because I follow UKVI rules not Justwise’s gut feelings.

justwise:


You are obviously deliberately misleading people here because i never say that and i also stated that the mother can transfer the money into the son's account then they can apply together, did you read that part?

There its again



One of the reasons why i hardly type lengthy answers here is because people can't be bothered to read beyond two lines.


You completely misconstrue everything i wrote here for reasons best know to you

Please do well to continue with the short answers, especially if the long ones make you to write a good answer in paragraph 1, then go ahead to mess up the good answer in paragraph 2

justwise:


You are obviously deliberately misleading people here because i never say that and i also stated that the mother can transfer the money into the son's account then they can apply together, did you read that part?

There its again




One of the reasons why i hardly type lengthy answers here is because people can't be bothered to read beyond two lines.


You completely misconstrue everything i wrote here for reasons best know to you

Justwise.
Just accept what laajiblik has been saying. You goofed on this one. Big time. You even wanted him to show you where the rules stated that mother in law cannot sponsor daughter in law.

BouharryArtikou:






Justwise.
Just accept what laajiblik has been saying. You goofed on this one. Big time. You even wanted him to show you where the rules stated that mother in law cannot sponsor daughter in law.

Yes I did and I’m still waiting for where that is stated and no I did not make any mistake on this issue.

LaaJiblik:



Please do well to continue with the short answers, especially if the long ones make you to write a good answer in paragraph 1, then go ahead to mess up the good answer in paragraph 2

I think I have to as it helps those who can’t read and understand longer sentences.

LaaJiblik:


I don’t need to do that because I follow UKVI rules not Justwise’s gut feelings.

My gut feelings is derived from UKVI rules

LagosismyHome:


Your mother will work for the main applicant as a parent

but for your dependent the rule is : You must have proof you have the money, and that it’s been in your bank account or your dependant’s bank account for at least 28 days before you or they apply. Please do not use your mother account for your dependent

SOURCE:
https://www.gov.uk/tier-4-general-visa/family-members

LagisIsMyHome had already provided the answer to this. Including a valid link on the UKVI website, which clearly stated that Money must be in DEPENDANT or MAIN APPLICANT’s account.
That is very clear.
But Justwise’s argument was that that portion did not outrightly exclude Mother-in-Law’s account.

Even after drawing his attention, he went on.

My dear brother Justwise, I understand that sometimes one mixes up Tier 4 vs Visitor vs Tuwr 2 etc...
On this matter, on tier-4 you were wrong.
Mother in law’s bank account CANNOT be used for daughter in-law applying as DEPENDANT of mother in law’s son.

Let’s move beyond this, and see how we can be able to help other applicants with other questions.

As for this matter, even if 1,000,000 cover letters are written, it’s a NO NO NO.

Let’s move on

LaaJiblik:



LagisIsMyHome had already provided the answer to this. Including a valid link on the UKVI website, which clearly stated that Money must be in DEPENDANT or MAIN APPLICANT’s account.
That is very clear.
But Justwise’s argument was that that portion did not outrightly exclude Mother-in-Law’s account.

Even after drawing his attention, he went on.

My dear brother Justwise, I understand that sometimes one mixes up Tier 4 vs Visitor vs Tuwr 2 etc...
On this matter, on tier-4 you were wrong.
Mother in law’s bank account CANNOT be used for daughter in-law applying as DEPENDANT of mother in law’s son.

Let’s move beyond this, and see how we can be able to help other applicants with other questions.

As for this matter, even if 1,000,000 cover letters are written, it’s a NO NO NO.

Let’s move on

I completely disagree with you on this, the rule is not clear on this issue and it’s a loophole which can be explored.

justwise:


Yes I did and I’m still waiting for where that is stated and no I did not make any mistake on this issue.

Although I am quoting Justwise on this, I want other people to help me out.

Justwise asked for the rules. I will provide the evidence from the official UKVI website, plus a screen grab.
I

I challenge Justwise to show ya where he got his own information that nama’s account can be used for daughter-in law’s dependant application.


https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/791595/SWS_Dependant_Guidance_03-2019.pdf


https://www.gov.uk/tier-4-general-visa/family-members

BouharryArtikou:



Although I am quoting Justwise on this, I want other people to help me out.

Justwise asked for the rules. I will provide the evidence from the official UKVI website, plus a screen grab.
I

I challenge Justwise to show ya where he got his own information that nama’s account can be used for daughter-in law’s dependant application.


https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/791595/SWS_Dependant_Guidance_03-2019.pdf


https://www.gov.uk/tier-4-general-visa/family-members

I have shown where I got my information from, which tallies with what laajiblik has been shouting about since afternoon.


Okay Oga Justwise, show ya your own source where it says someone can use his mother’s bank account statement as proof of funds for himself (main applicant), and his wife (deoendant).
We are waiting....

Good evening All.

Please I really need your say or input. I just got an admission offer from Northumbria University for a 2 years Master's degree.

Can someone tell me about the university and Newcastle. I don't know much about the school because I was planning to go to Robert Gordon University but the study module and duration of Northumbria University is well structured than that of RGU.

I want to know how good or bad is Newcastle city and Northumbria University?

BouharryArtikou:



Although I am quoting Justwise on this, I want other people to help me out.

Justwise asked for the rules. I will provide the evidence from the official UKVI website, plus a screen grab.
I

I challenge Justwise to show ya where he got his own information that nama’s account can be used for daughter-in law’s dependant application.


https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/791595/SWS_Dependant_Guidance_03-2019.pdf


https://www.gov.uk/tier-4-general-visa/family-members

You obviously not following though I’m not surprised judging by your first post on this issue.

I asked for a link where it stated that mother can not sponsor her son and the daughter Inlaw.

The link you provided got nothing to do with the question I asked.

......... UK Student visa thread is this how we una dey do for here .

LagosismyHome:
......... UK Student visa thread is this how we una dey do for here .

This is the most successful thread in this section with close to 100% success stories, people should not be afraid alternative view even when its not popular.

LagosismyHome:
......... UK Student visa thread is this how we una dey do for here .

Na mortal combat today oh. Two giants no wan gree for each other.

Una don start again today! I to know people too plenty for this Nairaland

justwise:


This is the most successful thread in this section with close to 100% success stories, people should not be afraid alternative view even when its not popular.

Successful.. humm probably based on the fact that UK Visa being a point based Visa is the easiest to get once you can meet the requirements

However kudos to all those keeping this thread. I had never heard of nairaland before until a Google search in 2010 when my brother and I were doing his application. I learnt everything from NL especially justwise posts . This place was and remains a fount of wisdom.

justwise:


You obviously not following though I’m not surprised judging by your first post on this issue.

I asked for a link where it stated that mother can not sponsor her son and the daughter Inlaw.

The link you provided got nothing to do with the question I asked.

Na wa for you ohhh.
You clearly got something wrong. Admit it and stop arguing.

I have shown you precisely what the rules says about maintenance money for tier 4 deoendant.
I have shown you the snapshot where it very clearly says whose account statement is eligible to be used. Either main applicant’s or Dependant’s.


Now it’s your turn to show all the members on this thread where you got your own information that in-law’s bank statement can be used for tier- 4 dependant.

I have opened book for you.

I want you to open book for me too.


As for the bolded above, you are making me laugh like a maniac. There is no way I can provide a link in support of your question which is baseless. Guideline specifically mentioned 2 people whose account statement can be used.
You (on your own authority) decided to introduce a 3rd person whose account can be used. After being caught pants down by laajiblik you now want me to provide a document to disprove you?
Ota show ya where you got that your mother in law information from.

BouharryArtikou:




Na wa for you ohhh.
You clearly got something wrong. Admit it and stop arguing.

I have shown you precisely what the rules says about maintenance money for tier 4 deoendant.
I have shown you the snapshot where it very clearly says whose account statement is eligible to be used. Either main applicant’s or Dependant’s.


Now it’s your turn to show all the members on this thread where you got your own information that in-law’s bank statement can be used for tier- 4 dependant.

I have opened book for you.

I want you to open book for me too.


As for the bolded above, you are making me laugh like a maniac. There is no way I can provide a link in support of your question which is baseless. Guideline specifically mentioned 2 people whose account statement can be used.
You (on your own authority) decided to introduce a 3rd person whose account can be used. After being caught pants down by laajiblik you now want me to provide a document to disprove you?
Ota show ya where you got that your mother in law information from.

Your knowledge on this is limited which is why you still don't understand jack about this.

You read my first post on this issue and completely misunderstood it and you still haven't got it

justwise:


You obviously not following though I’m not surprised judging by your first post on this issue.

I asked for a link where it stated that mother can not sponsor her son and the daughter Inlaw.

The link you provided got nothing to do with the question I asked.

You want me to provide a link to support your own stand? That link does not exist. It only exist in your imagination.
I have provided a link where:
Mother’s bank account can be used for her son.
Or
Main applicant (husband) bank account can be used for his wife.

It is left for you Justwise to provide the link where you claimed that mother can sponsor daughter in law.

LagosismyHome:


Successful.. humm probably based on the fact that UK Visa being a point based Visa is the easiest to get once you can meet the requirements

However kudos to all those keeping this thread. I had never heard of nairaland before until a Google search in 2010 when my brother and I were doing his application. I learnt everything from NL especially justwise posts . This place was and remains a fount of wisdom.

It was not point based from the beginning, 10yrs ago when this thread started we had far more argument here but still people were able to secure visas.

Read part 1 and 2 of this thread to see for yourself.

justwise:


Your knowledge on this is limited which is why you still don't understand jack about this.

You read my first post on this issue and completely misunderstood it and you still haven't got it

This right here is as clear as the sun.
Just show us where you derive your own Information from.

Where did you get that Information that Daughter inlaw can use Mother-in laws account?

justwise:


I completely disagree with you on this, the rule is not clear on this issue and it’s a loophole which can be explored.

I promised to move ahead.
I thought you would admit that you got it wrong (or probably mixed up a bit).
It would appear you are adamant.


How clear do you want the rule to be?
I saw that someone has graciously provided screen munches and link to the guidelines.

I would expect that for a PBS system, you all that is required is for an applicant to cross the Ts and dot the I’s. To do what the guideline says, rather than do what the guidelines did not say, just because someone feels there are loopholes.

I think you are mixing these things up.
The use of the word ‘Sponsor’ by you shows clearly that you are mixing it up.

Guidelines stipulates funds to be in main applicant or dependant applicant’s name. Shikena.
Any other 3rd party is counterfeit.....

BouharryArtikou:




This right here is as clear as the sun.
Just show us where you derive your own Information from.

Where did you get that Information that Daughter inlaw can use Mother-in laws account?

Go back and read my posts on this, I still don’t know why you are struggling to understand this and keep giving me irrelevant screenshots.

If this is difficult for you to understand then move on and follow your own understanding.

I did not force you or anybody to take my opinion on this.

LaaJiblik:




I promised to move ahead.
I thought you would admit that you got it wrong (or probably mixed up a bit).
It would appear you are adamant.


How clear do you want the rule to be?
I saw that someone has graciously provided screen munches and link to the guidelines.

I would expect that for a PBS system, you all that is required is for an applicant to cross the Ts and dot the I’s. To do what the guideline says, rather than do what the guidelines did not say, just because someone feels there are loopholes.

I think you are mixing these things up.
The use of the word ‘Sponsor’ by you shows clearly that you are mixing it up.

Guidelines stipulates funds to be in main applicant or dependant applicant’s name. Shikena.
Any other 3rd party is counterfeit.....

I still maintain everything I said on this issue, you don’t have to take it but I disagree with you.
Move on because you can’t convince me on this.