afrodoc2:


Ortiz camp said he was offered little money, AJ ‘s camp said it was 7m.

Like i said before, the fact that Ruiz did it does not mean a 40yr old should do it

Anyway your claim was that Ortiz has been ducking mandatories. This AJ story does not qualify, and even if true a single event does not confirm a trend.

nihilistjnr:


Bro, you said he's always ducked his mandatories here



That's what I'm asking about.

AJ was not a mandatory to Ortiz, so who are these mandatories he has ducked?

Swissh:

Your paid a transfer record for a keeper who drinks goals like Akamu

airmark:


Washed-up Breazle and inferior version of Samuel Peters, called Stiverne?

When Steelhammer was active, Wilder avoided him throughout. His team made it known publicly.

Wilder only fought two top fighters in weak-puncher, Fury and 60+yr old Cuban. So 10yr title defenses against what type of oppositions?.

Wilder ducked Klitschko:

WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder (33-0, 32KOs) is still very much a work in progress, says his co-manager Shelly Finkel. After last Saturday's world title win over Bermane Stiverne, the hype began growing for a fight between Wilder and WBO/WBA/IBO/IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko.

Finkel, who manages Wilder with Al Haymon and Jay Deas, also works closely with Klitschko.

He says there is no need to rush Wilder into big fights against the best of the division; that despite a world title he still needs time to grow and groom his skills.

“Look, (Wilder) is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things, he could go and Povetkin (the No. 2 contender) in Russia and make $10 million,” Finkel said to the Tuscaloosa News. “It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.”

Finkel managed him well, by chosing cab drivers and plumbers to get his numbers up.

A40:
I don't disagree to an extent but let's not act like lots of Heavyweight champion boxers never did some ducking including Klitschko who was accused of handpicking opponents

The koko now is who in the division can Wilder not K.O and levitate as we speak!

Godx:

AJ was definitely a mandatory. Rejected a 7 million offer which would have been his highest paycheck in his career and a shot at 3 titles. He definitely ducked AJ and Dillian Whyte also revealed Ortiz rejected a £2M offer to fight him. Boogeymen doesn't reject offers.

Coutinho14:
These shekpites have finally lost it

Emaprince:
Mugu , na only Chelsea players you see.

Raumdeuter and the legion of barka ediots that suckks his dickk sha.

When will these barks boys grow some sense and stop following ramdeuter around?

A40:
I mean people talked about Tyson lacking boxing skills and being a bruiser. Wilder is even worse but unlike Tyson he doesn't even need a combo to drop you flat on your back

afrodoc2:


AJ and Wilder will definitely not go the distance. It will just be a matter of who gets lucky first (a bit like Marciano vs Walcott 1) , with AJ having great power and the better combos and Wilder having the the more durable chin and the ultimate power.
I just can't get the picture of AJ smiling sheepishly in the ring after being dazed by Ruiz out of my head. The guy fall our national hand with that display.

AJ's guard is not great, he does not move his head enough, and when he gets tapped he has does not have a chin. That is a triad of problems you shouldn't have in heavyweight boxing.

A40:
The one guy I still believe can decisively beat Wilder is AJ. If he can work on his defense. The suspect chin is not going anywhere but with improved defense he can at least stay upright till he gets a chance to land that uppercut or use his combos. I just don't see Wilder as a guy you get into the ring hoping to outbox

Ibime:


Did you really type this?

My respect for your boxing knowledge just went down a notch.

Tyson is one of the best technicians the Heavyweight division has seen. When it comes to slipping punches and head movement, Tyson was pure class. His slip is surely followed by right hook to the liver, then uppercut. Most fighters got beaten by liver shots and opened up their head to protect their liver.

The only thing that would make someone say Tyson lack boxing skills is if they watched only the latter half of his career when he didn't have the fitness to carry out his slip, right hook, right uppercut style which is very cardio intensive.

Ibime:


If Wilder chin is stronger than AJ, what guarantee that AJ will knock him out first. Wilder can survive two or three concussive combinations, and law of averages he'll catch AJ next and get the KO.

Wilder most likely loss will be on points to a better box who can evade ko for 12 rounds

A40:
I didn't say me. I said people. And I'm not wrong because the sentiment back then was he was more mauler than technician.

His head movement was top notch and he did that better than most. But there is a reason he aged so badly. Tyson was the quickest, most mobile Heavyweight ever but even I wouldn't tell list him among the greatest technicians ever in the Heavies. The minute he lost his speed he was cooked and that's the truth

Ibime:


Speed and technique equate to the same thing for any short heavyweight. Tyson is 5 ft 10 and 3/4. You cannot hide behind jab at that height in heavyweight division. Your speed is your technical base.

Sulele04:
All Chelsea fans thank God for your own oh and before you start to criticise the team after a bad performance

ReMember what arsenal and especially man u
Fans ar going through right now

At least we don't have a clueless clown as a manager who laughs in defeat

A40:
Exactly. No way that fight is going the distance. I know for sure Wilder will not get away with any slow start because AJ has actual power to put Wilder to bed. It will now be a case of if AJ can avoid getting caught himself

My only qualms with AJ is after getting dropped he didn't fight his way back into the game. He got up multiple times so I don't fault his heart and effort. He was clearly disoriented and his defense gave him no chance

There is nothing you can do about a dodgy chin but if he worked on his head movement and guard he can beat anybody. I'm really rooting for him in this rematch

afrodoc2:


Wilder vs AJ does not favour AJ at all. He has been dropped by people with half Wilder’s power.

A jab exponent with a granite chin is the best bet against Wilder.

A40:
Getting dropped is not a problem if you can get up for the count which AJ has repeatedly shown. The key is his defense, his defense is his albatross for now

If old man Ortiz could daze Wilder then a younger fighter with real KO power can do even worse. Wilder has not fought anybody with AJ's kinda power.

A jab exponent will hope to win with a decision but with Wilder at some point you're going to have to force the issue if you want to win decisively at least. If you don't put him away he will put you away. And no matter how good your chin is this is the Heavyweights, someone is going to drop you if you don't drop them

Coutinho14:
These shekpites have finally lost it

Swissh:

Thorrvik55 my guy. Afa your kepa

airmark:
If you were the referee, what would you blow?

Goal kick, if the ball goes out

Their village people came to the pitch in the form of a dog

airmark:
If you were the referee, what would you blow?

airmark:
If you were the referee, what would you blow?