CAPTIVATOR:


Voice heard looks LIKE Water, Thunder, Great crowd, description, are you aware that He described the voice of Jesus as like Many waters, just one person, so the point is, The voices can be that of just two, three, or four angels. Voice heard was described, HE DIDN'T SAW A GREAT CROWD, Rushing Waters Or Thunder. Keep that point.

Do I need to spoonfeed you that you should look up verse 31?

rottennaija:


Ask a very specific question. Where does it say the nations are gathered before the throne?

rottennaija:


So somehow, he didn't see a great crowd that were humans, but he heard of a great crowd of angels? Is that what you are saying?

Let me ask you clearly. You are saying the great crowd of Re 19:1 is angel? Right?

CAPTIVATOR:


Mr, He didnt see any great crowd or water or thunder, he only DESCRIBED how what he heard sounds like. I was making a point that If the voice of Jesus could be said to sound Like Many waters, nothing stops this from being voice of angels. This is not the same crowd mentioned at Rev 7

rottennaija:

So the great crowd of re 19 is what? Humans? Angels?

CAPTIVATOR:


Was pointing a fact to you. They aint born again, simple . Means they won't be in heaven

For the thief, I ask: How exactly is the thief born of water and spirit to be regarded as born again ?



You are wasting your time." UNLESS ANYONE "doesn't create room for exception theory

CAPTIVATOR:


Angels in heaven

CAPTIVATOR:


Mr, He didnt see any great crowd or water or thunder, he only DESCRIBED how what he heard sounds like. I was making a point that If the voice of Jesus could be said to sound Like Many waters, nothing stops this from being voice of angels. This is not the same crowd mentioned at Rev 7

rottennaija:


OK. Now let focus on the great crowd of Re 7. Re 7:15 says they are in the temple sanctuary. Is God's temple heaven or earth?

CAPTIVATOR:

Gods servant in the past built temples on earth . so dont try to make it seem temple is all about heaven.

The temple mentioned is on earth. Maybe you don't know, even our body is spoken as Gods temple. Before that point we are already told, they came out of great tribulation which occur here on earth and the key here is they survived it. So they are still on the earth

Janosky:



If rottennaija is being honest and truthful, tell him to give you paragraphs 13 & 14 of the Watchtower study article he's lying about.
Or better still, go the link to paragraphs 1 to 20 of that study article.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2019/love-justice-face-of-wickedness/

As far as child molestation is concerned, no church can rival the committed efforts of JWs to combat the scourge.
After OLAADEGBU reads the material thoroughly, I challenge him to present anything his Daddy GS or dlbc has published to combat child molestation, let everybody see it...
I still repeat :
No Church can rival the efforts of JWs , none at all !

rottennaija:


You are just beating about the Bush without saying anything. The place is very clear, it don't refer to the temple of the body but it points out clearly, they are rendering God sacred service in his temple day and night.

The question is the temple, is the temple in heaven or on earth?

CAPTIVATOR:


1Corinthians 3:16 " Do you not know that you yourselves are GODS TEMPLE ? " a typical example of Gods temple on earth.

Interestingly, that same verse adds " and the one seated on the throne will spread his tent over them" Revelation 21:3 reveal this are mankind. Where does mankind live ? Clear

Verse 17 expose it all , they will be sherperd amd guided to the water of life.

Whereas ANYONE Who experience the first resurrection wont need to be guided to the water of life since they are already IMMORTAL. Its clear those spoken of here are on earth, they are not immortal

rottennaija:

As I said earlier, You are just beating about the Bush and worse of all, you are setting different questions and answering them.

The place is very clear, it don't refer to the temple of the body but it points out clearly, they are rendering God sacred service in his temple day and night. The temple mentioned there says specifically, Jehovah's temple, temple sanctuary.

The question is the temple sanctuary, is the temple in heaven or on earth?

CAPTIVATOR:


And the Bible said we are Jehovah's temple?

Why are they still guarded to the water of LIFE if they are in heaven? Common sense

CAPTIVATOR:


Was pointing a fact to you. They aint born again, simple . Means they won't be in heaven

For the thief, I ask: How exactly is the thief born of water and spirit to be regarded as born again ?



You are wasting your time." UNLESS ANYONE "doesn't create room for exception theory

CAPTIVATOR:


Mr, He didnt see any great crowd or water or thunder, he only DESCRIBED how what he heard sounds like. I was making a point that If the voice of Jesus could be said to sound Like Many waters, nothing stops this from being voice of angels. This is not the same crowd mentioned at Rev 7

CAPTIVATOR:

Gods servant in the past built temples on earth . so dont try to make it seem temple is all about heaven.

The temple mentioned is on earth. Maybe you don't know, even our body is spoken as Gods temple. Before that point we are already told, they came out of great tribulation which occur here on earth and the key here is they survived it. So they are still on the earth

achorladey:


Will want to do a REPHRASING here to see how this........doesn't CREATE ROOM FOR EXCEPTION THEORY

applies to John 6:53..........Jesus said to them, “I tell you the solemn truth, UNLESS you EAT the FLESH of the son of Man and DRINK his BLOOD, you have NO LIFE in yourselves.

and

John 3:5...........Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, UNLESS a PERSON is born of WATER and SPIRIT, he cannot ENTER the kingdom of God.

Achorladey: Was pointing a fact to you. They didn't EAT the FLESH and BLOOD of CHRIST, simple . Means they dont't have life in them.

For the thief, I ask: How exactly did the THIEF EAT the FLESH of the son of Man and DRINK his BLOOD, that enable him HAVE LIFE in HIMSELF?

You are wasting your time." UNLESS YOU "doesn't create room for exception theory

rottennaija:

The same common sense in Re 2:7 where the so called anointed are "will eat from the tree of life." Common sense baa? Why are the "anointed" eating from the tree of life if they they are immortal?

Or is it because the great crowd are in heaven, then it should stops them from being guided into the river of water of life?

This was besides the point. My question is, is the temple sanctuary mentioned in Re 7:15 in heaven? Or on earth? Or the bodies of Christians?

CAPTIVATOR:


The thief ate Emblem , drink wine and eat Bread , Hear what your brainwasher has to say below

" he [Jesus ] commands partaking of the emblems as an importance acceptance of him and gaining everlasting life.

John 6:53-57 "Accordingly Jesus said to them: "Most truly I say to YOU, Unless YOU eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU have no life in yourselves. " - PaulGrundy

Blind leading the blind

Cc: rottennaija

achorladey:


Hahahahahaha I know its going to definitely end in THAT direction of PaulGrundy the new BRAINWASHER"

CAPTIVATOR:


Exactly. He is correct So you got your answer... The theif ate emblem to have life in himself.

Goodbye

Barristter07:


You just finished the Guy

CAPTIVATOR:

Tree of life signifies Immortality which they receive during their Ressurection. ( First Ressurection) 1 Cor 15:52,53 the dead will be raised up ... and this which is mortal must put on immortality .



U are creating more issues for yourself

Did it say Tree of life ? Jesus once told a Samaritan woman that Water of Life means " everlasting life " John 4:14 . Water of life signifies everlasting life that Jesus will give this great crowd that survived the great tribulation that occur on earth where they are. THEY DIDNT DIE to be ressurected to heaven. They came out alive from the great tribulation. Man, They are right here on earth.


• The temple is where they are . On earth where the tribulation occur, and yes their body too is Gods temple. Note: They didnt die and get resurrected , They Came out alive from the tribulation. Comprehende ?

Barristter07:


How do some people manage to catapult living humans from earth to heaven without them even dying in the first place to be ressurected ?

Barristter07:


You just finished the Guy

CAPTIVATOR:


Eating emblem is important for everlasting life

achorladey:



Your......."DOESN'T CREATE ROOM FOR EXCEPTION THEORY" still looking at me in the FACE. Hahahahahaha.

CAPTIVATOR:



Did Abraham and others eat Emblems , No life in them man . Emblem must be eaten to gain life.


" he [Jesus ] commands partaking of the emblems as an importance acceptance of him and gaining everlasting life. " Paulgrundy

CAPTIVATOR:

Tree of life signifies Immortality which they receive during their Ressurection. ( First Ressurection) 1 Cor 15:52,53 the dead will be raised up ... and this which is mortal must put on immortality .



U are creating more issues for yourself

Did it say Tree of life ? Jesus once told a Samaritan woman that Water of Life means " everlasting life " John 4:14 . Water of life signifies everlasting life that Jesus will give this great crowd that survived the great tribulation that occur on earth where they are. THEY DIDNT DIE to be ressurected to heaven. They came out alive from the great tribulation. Man, They are right here on earth.


• The temple is where they are . On earth where the tribulation occur, and yes their body too is Gods temple. Note: They didnt die and get resurrected , They Came out alive from the tribulation. Comprehende ?

achorladey:



CAPTIVATOR: Did Abraham and others eat Emblems , No life in them man . Emblem must be eaten to gain life.

Achorladey: Have I mentioned EMBLEMS so far? Hahahahaha. E get as e be.


CAPTIVATOR:" he [Jesus ] commands partaking of the emblems as an importance acceptance of him [b] and gaining everlasting life." Paulgrundy

Achorladey: The usual LINE you have given previously........