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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:00pm On Nov 29, 2019
andrewbaba44:


What is bad in his stats ?

He has been injured and have played 5 games and just an assist

Do you have any wingers with better stats this season apart from maybe chukwueze

Even Samuel kalu stats is poor

Kukuma talk say you no want am as e dey Saudi Arabia league

Okay, I don't want him in the team as na SA league him dey. Naija players dey Qatar league yet they aren't given a look in. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Hope you're happy now

Simple.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:00pm On Nov 29, 2019
Joebie:
Let's remain with the substance of the argument. Beat him or concede.

substance of the truth that his points are always loopsided and biased


I don't blame those who said he lies alot....
he can quickly use those words to make case for his preferred British players and twist same words to pull down a home groomed player or non British born....

please leave komekn.... he really need to be objective with his words and I still believe he is not a super eagles fan probably here for reasons best know to him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:00pm On Nov 29, 2019
charlesemeka85:
oga ekong is good and have improved alot since moving to the serie A. sentiment aside he is 9ja's best centre back currently



Okay...but is he consistent?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:01pm On Nov 29, 2019
it's really simple. Some people just choose to remain backward...
if we can make things great in the home front then wonderful. Even at that, you can't still shut out some players just because place of birth. It's simply discrimination to your own detriment. Forward thinking countries try to get the best brains and best talents that they can POSSIBLY get.

Humility017:


noted bro.....
it takes the harmonisation of both home groomed and foreign players to make the best team especially for a country like nigeria and considering the modern nature of football..... we need kids who have been privileged to be schooled on the science and rudiments of footbal ....... this we get from foreign born players.... and we love it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:03pm On Nov 29, 2019
I have argued that he is not balanced, but I will have to admit it when he is able to argue his case. The only thing, I want him to watch other leagues more. You can hardly be balanced if you only focus on one.

Humility017:


substance of the truth that his points are always loopsided and biased


I don't blame those who said he lies alot....
he can quickly use those words to make case for his preferred British players and twist same words to pull down a home groomed player or non British born....

please leave komekn.... he really need to be objective with his words and I still believe he is not a super eagles fan probably here for reasons best know to him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:03pm On Nov 29, 2019
Humility017:


substance of the truth that his points are always loopsided and biased


I don't blame those who said he lies alot....
he can quickly use those words to make case for his preferred British players and twist same words to pull down a home groomed player or non British born....

please leave komekn.... he really need to be objective with his words and I still believe he is not a super eagles fan probably here for reasons best know to him

Komekn isn't an objective fellow. I used to think the bashing he receives is because of the innit boys he supports but I was wrong. He isn't an objective person 6 times out of 10. He uses any false argument to suit his narrative even when he is surely wrong.

Let Solanke score one penalty tomorrow and see how komekn will shout that he is better than Onuachu (although both are prodigies in carpentry).
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:06pm On Nov 29, 2019
Joebie:
it's really simple. Some people just choose to remain backward...
if we can make things great in the home front then wonderful. Even at that, you can't still shut out some players just because place of birth. It's simply discrimination to your own detriment. Forward thinking countries try to get the best brains and best talents that they can POSSIBLY get.


I have told him before one of the vital attribute that makes up a graduate....

is having a critical mind of analysis...being holistic in reasoning, ability to consider several variables, broad in thinking in achieving a goal......

a literate does not think one way only....

if you can't harmonise both foreign born and home groomed to get the best results in football it means you still can't do same in medicines, engineering, commercials and more
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:07pm On Nov 29, 2019
he is not consistent but starts every udinese games in serie A since he joined them?
Blueelf:


Okay...but is he consistent?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:08pm On Nov 29, 2019
lol.. But we also have a certain Chuba Akpom. Is he good enough for SE.. the answer is simply NO. Why are we courting the player?

Blueelf:


Komekn isn't an objective fellow. I used to think the bashing he receives is because of the innit boys he supports but I was wrong. He isn't an objective person 6 times out of 10. He uses any false argument to suit his narrative even when he is surely wrong.

Let Solanke score one penalty tomorrow and see how komekn will shout that he is better than Onuachu (although both are prodigies in carpentry).
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:10pm On Nov 29, 2019
Joebie:
I have argued that he is not balanced, but I will have to admit it when he is able to argue his case. The only thing, I want him to watch other leagues more. You can hardly be balanced if you only focus on one.


you see some peeps here are proud fellows
they never admit they can't be right at all time...
that's the African mentality safarigirl was talking about yesterday.....

it is very bad...I was so surprised to read his write up saying forgiveness fall his hand...all because that one made a reasonable point differ from his....must him be on his side always it was clear to all that he does not like UmarSadiq

you don't go argue a case continuously when it is obvious that it is tenable

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:14pm On Nov 29, 2019
Blueelf:


Okay, I don't want him in the team as na SA league him dey. Naija players dey Qatar league yet they aren't given a look in. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Hope you're happy now

Simple.

Lol I hope rohr hears you out and not me

When Belgium and Brazil coaches took Asian based players to the World Cup they didn’t complain ooo ,but una Nigerians go dey complain upon say una team Na average

Smh

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:15pm On Nov 29, 2019
Blueelf:


Komekn isn't an objective fellow. I used to think the bashing he receives is because of the innit boys he supports but I was wrong. He isn't an objective person 6 times out of 10. He uses any false argument to suit his narrative even when he is surely wrong.

Let Solanke score one penalty tomorrow and see how komekn will shout that he is better than Onuachu (although both are prodigies in carpentry).

you'll be shocked to know that they're some agents amongst us.here..... and also journalists and all....

you may be coming here because of your deep love for the super eagles...but the truth I can tell you not everybody shares your motive for coming here....

same way some folks follow up football matches for many reasons either because of their bets, passion and lots more....

so just relax....... the UK is not meant for lazy Nigerians you got to work hard to survive especially considering their numerous taxes

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:15pm On Nov 29, 2019
Joebie:
If he is not fully fit, he shouldn't be back in the team. there is no point hurrying him to the team as if we do not have capable replacements until he is fit to really compete.


Are you sure he is not fully fit ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:15pm On Nov 29, 2019
Even if Sadiq is balling in the Serie A, komekn will still question the player's abilities just because he "failed" in the Scottish premiership. That's where I don't agree with him. If you fail in EPL and environs, he will never give u a pass mark regardless of where you go. But on the issue of UEFA coefficients ranking, you can look at it by the most recent season versus taking several seasons into consideration. I've made a similar argument in the past.

and yes komekn has to admit that he needs be more balanced and need to start watching football without using the EPL as a reference point all the time.

Humility017:


you see some peeps here are proud fellows
they never admit they can't be right at all time...
that's the African mentality safarigirl was talking about yesterday.....

it is very bad...I was so surprised to read his write up saying forgiveness fall his hand...all because that one made a reasonable point differ from his....must him be on his side always it was clear to all that he does not like UmarSadiq

you don't go argue a case continuously when it is obvious that it is tenable
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:17pm On Nov 29, 2019
Joebie:
Even if Sadiq is balling in the Serie A, komekn will still question the player's abilities just because he "failed" in the Scottish premiership. That's where I don't agree with him. If you fail in EPL and environs, he will never give u a pass mark regardless of where you go. But on the issue of UEFA coefficients ranking, you can look at it by the most recent season versus taking several seasons into consideration. I've made a similar argument in the past.

and yes komekn has to admit that he needs be more balanced and need to start watching football without using the EPL as a reference point all the time.


then I think he does not know football...someone who really watch and understand football will not see it as mathematics...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:19pm On Nov 29, 2019
Firstly, I said "if". Secondly, when a player like Musa has been out due to injury and has not had a good run of games he couldn't be as fit as a continuously active player, say Ejuke.
andrewbaba44:


Are you sure he is not fully fit ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:25pm On Nov 29, 2019
Cc andrewbaba44

This is Musa vs Ejuke's stats before the Lesotho game

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:31pm On Nov 29, 2019
andrewbaba44:


Lol I hope rohr hears you out and not me

When Belgium and Brazil coaches took Asian based players to the World Cup they didn’t complain ooo ,but una Nigerians go dey complain upon say una team Na average

Smh

I love to complain, don't I?

I can complain for Africa
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:32pm On Nov 29, 2019
You are right but wherever we are coming from in this, we still have the burden of arguing our case. And if we stick to the substance we will get the best results eventually, which is the general good of SE. Because whether we like it or not there are people still benefiting from the system as it stands today. Some set of people will always stand to benefit one way or the other.

Humility017:


you'll be shocked to know that they're some agents amongst us.here..... and also journalists and all....

you may be coming here because of your deep love for the super eagles...but the truth I can tell you not everybody shares your motive for coming here....

same way some folks follow up football matches for many reasons either because of their bets, passion and lots more....

so just relax....... the UK is not meant for lazy Nigerians you got to work hard to survive especially considering their numerous taxes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:33pm On Nov 29, 2019
charlesemeka85:
he is not consistent but starts every udinese games in serie A since he joined them?

Na question I ask na?

A player may start every game for want of better alternatives. Or am I wrong?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:35pm On Nov 29, 2019
andrewbaba44:


Lol I hope rohr hears you out and not me

When Belgium and Brazil coaches took Asian based players to the World Cup they didn’t complain ooo ,but una Nigerians go dey complain upon say una team Na average

Smh

Brazil underperformed at the WC.

Carrasco was a surplus addition bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:46pm On Nov 29, 2019
Blueelf:


Brazil underperformed at the WC.

Carrasco was a surplus addition bro
Carrasco started many games in the World Cup so how was he surplus ?

I guess axel witsel was also surplus ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:46pm On Nov 29, 2019
Chidera Ejuke not listed in Heerenveen's home encounter with Vitesse due to illness. It's currently HT and the homers trail by 1 goal to 2
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:48pm On Nov 29, 2019
Joebie:
Cc andrewbaba44

This is Musa vs Ejuke's stats before the Lesotho game


Ejuke have better stats,I don’t need to look at the stats

But did I say ejuke should not be invited ?

Musa cannot be dropped ,simple

Why didn’t you also compare ejuke stats with Samuel kalu or Moses Simon ? Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:50pm On Nov 29, 2019
Joebie:
Firstly, I said "if". Secondly, when a player like Musa has been out due to injury and has not had a good run of games he couldn't be as fit as a continuously active player, say Ejuke.

Did musa even play when he was invited ?

I don’t know why you guys are serious
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:52pm On Nov 29, 2019
andrewbaba44:

Carrasco started many games in the World Cup so how was he surplus ?

I guess axel witsel was also surplus ?

Maybe they would've won without China ballers grin

I'm tired of this argument. You're becoming like thegoodjoe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:52pm On Nov 29, 2019
Tiago Abiola Delfim Almeida Ilori's stats in orange.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:52pm On Nov 29, 2019
u sure say u watch match so?

modified
now when I don give u evidence to back my position, u don shift to did he even play.
Even if he didn't play is it not better to call up a more active and fit potential starter or sub as opposed to someone who may not be fully fit? na common sense things na

andrewbaba44:


Did musa even play when he was invited ?

I don’t know why you guys are serious

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:54pm On Nov 29, 2019
andrewbaba44:


Ejuke have better stats,I don’t need to look at the stats

But did I say ejuke should not be invited ?

Musa cannot be dropped ,simple

Why didn’t you also compare ejuke stats with Samuel kalu or Moses Simon ? Lol

Abegiii

That's how you guys said Mikel cannot be dropped before AFCON. The rest is history. Didn't I warn you guys. You especially tagged me a hater. That's your language once someone has contrary opinion to you

Musa is becoming a carpenter. He is unreliable and unintelligent even when he is fit
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:56pm On Nov 29, 2019
Joebie:
Tiago Abiola Delfim Almeida Ilori's stats in orange.

I have often wondered why this guy was never invited.

But I think I heard he turned us down at a time seeking to wait for Portugal.

He wouldn't be bad IMO
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:58pm On Nov 29, 2019
stay with the substance. you are questioning my stance on his fitness. So I gave you Ejuke as a comparable example.
Let's even leave out comparisons. Musa has not done enough this season to be in SE. If you say he cannot be dropped that is simply based on sentiments and not logic

andrewbaba44:


Ejuke have better stats,I don’t need to look at the stats

But did I say ejuke should not be invited ?

Musa cannot be dropped ,simple

Why didn’t you also compare ejuke stats with Samuel kalu or Moses Simon ? Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:00pm On Nov 29, 2019
I just posted his stats for the said game.. I never even check his current performance so far. my friend, let's take it step by step. lol

Blueelf:


I have often wondered why this guy was never invited.

But I think I heard he turned us down at a time seeking to wait for Portugal.

He wouldn't be bad IMO

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