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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:18am On Nov 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Very nice point.

That is why I have called for our Zone to zone screening process to take place in a more comprehensive manner with the screening time longer than it used to.

This will give the coaches more time to screen and also a chance to see more players. Making the final selections top knotch.

Also, there needs to be a solution to cut out contacts from Agents.

We do this while we work on coming up with a proper youth development system like having a proper inter local government league which will culminate in a National Youth Champions League.

There is a lot to do. Like Academies having their leagues with different levels.

Unfortunately, Pinnick is more interested in globe trotting than carrying out development work in the local scene.

When Amaju was Chairman of Warri Wolves and commissioner he still deh come London no be today.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:22am On Nov 30, 2019
charlesemeka85:
When Dominic Iorfa left Wolverhampton Wanderers to join Sheffield Wednesday in January, he did so in the hope of making one of the Owls’ centre-half positions his own.

But Iorfa’s Hillsborough career began in the role with which he has been most familiar throughout his professional career – right full-back.

And it was not until Tom Lees – the Wednesday captain and a staple at the heart of the club’s defence since 2014 – dropped out of the XI at the eleventh hour against QPR in August that the towering ex-Wolves man finally made the shift inside.


It is fair to say that he has not looked back, keeping Lees out of the side following the latter’s return (although they should be paired together at Charlton on Saturday due to Julian Börner’s suspension).


And in Wednesday night’s draw with Birmingham Iorfa gave arguably his best display in blue and white – something with which the following Owls fans appear to agree…

(He even provided the assist for Kadeem Harris’s leveller.)





Iorfa has now scored or made one more goal (seven) in 28 Sheffield Wednesday appearances than he managed in 93 for Wolves.

Actually it was Monk who changed things and decided to play Dominic in CB position his preferred position.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 1:25am On Nov 30, 2019
komekn:


You are very funny Lol.

I am replying because you seem genuine but sincerely wrong.

You know we have a PFA here in my experience it's impossible for a club to owe a player wages.

First, thing you did was to assume from a singular perspective your own and or what is purported to be Sadiq Umar story.

When Sadiq first arrived he was found to be unfit that's not very professional. It's obvious you don't know the degree of professionalism in these clubs. It was established very quickly numerous tests will ascertain his fitness even bench testing will show up issues.

He was told to get fit first, he effectively has sold him self short l. Starting work but not ready for work. Eéeeeeee get as he be.

I have seen Ojo and Ovie in training and l know how vigourous that is at Liverpool. You can ask Awoniyi he will tell you as well.

In training he was poor that's why he struggled to get into the team and that was from inception.

I suggest you have a balanced view taking all factors into consideration. Established patterns and see how matters progressed and or didn't progress as the case may be. Ascertain the chain of events progressively and you will come to a substantive deduction. Not an emotive sentiment based one.

Then again l can't blame you as you probably have no idea how things work in professional football clubs.

Can l suggest you stop supporting superficial nonsense.



"Chei stop supporting evil" LOL

Below a YouTube video of Sarr's first day at Watford fc. It gives you an insight on how things are done.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QDLNW1D3qA

A mam that isn't balanced in his view is now telling me to get balanced. What an irony?

So because he wasn't fit, it was right for him to be owed salary and frozen out?

It was right for Steven Gerrard to act unconcerned? If this is how coaching is done, would klopp have encouraged Lovren to get out of his slump in form? What of lallana and keita injured almost every time?

What were his fitness issues? Did he sustain an injury just before arriving at rangers? Or was he fat and obese?
[b]
You are not a sincere person Mr Komekn [/b]and the truth cannot be hidden under the sun.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:27am On Nov 30, 2019
Joebie:
Komekn when I come UK I go like make we go stadium watch one of ur boys


No SHAKIN just give me the game and time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:32am On Nov 30, 2019
Blueelf:
Please I have a very important question.

How is Dominic Iorfa's ball playing ability as a Centre Back?

Cc Komekn, thesupernerd

I have said quite a few times l dont think he is the best technically speaking.

But he has speed, tenacity and very good recover with aerial dominance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:35am On Nov 30, 2019
Blueelf:


Komekn isn't an objective fellow. I used to think the bashing he receives is because of the innit boys he supports but I was wrong. He isn't an objective person 6 times out of 10. He uses any false argument to suit his narrative even when he is surely wrong.

Let Solanke score one penalty tomorrow and see how komekn will shout that he is better than Onuachu (although both are prodigies in carpentry).


Can you tell me where l have said Solanke is outstanding talent just once.

Then why the benchmark reference to Solanke please tell us
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:44am On Nov 30, 2019
Joebie:
Even if Sadiq is balling in the Serie A, komekn will still question the player's abilities just because he "failed" in the Scottish premiership. That's where I don't agree with him. If you fail in EPL and environs, he will never give u a pass mark regardless of where you go. But on the issue of UEFA coefficients ranking, you can look at it by the most recent season versus taking several seasons into consideration. I've made a similar argument in the past.

and yes komekn has to admit that he needs be more balanced and need to start watching football without using the EPL as a reference point all the time.


I am very balanced and objective.

I have an indepth knowledge and experiential as well of English football. That means I know lots of coaches, scouts, heads of recruitment, Agents pkayers including Nigerian players and a few Managers.

That's my background.

I go to Europe at least 6/7 times a year on account of football.

My knowledge is not culled from the media it's quite often first hand.

I remember when stated Fikayo Tomori was not good enough two seasons ago. When l watched him a season later I did a U TURN.

When Osimhen was in Wolfsburg l remember saying he needs to go to a less competitive league and make his way forward from there. And progress it seems he listened.

My reference point will always be the EPL ask all.the players from Nigeria where would they all like to go.

Out most outstanding players have always mainly come from the EPL.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:59am On Nov 30, 2019
Blueelf:


A mam that isn't balanced in his view is now telling me to get balanced. What an irony?
So because he wasn't fit, it was right for him to be owed salary and frozen out

It was right for Steven Gerrard to act unconcerned? If this is how coaching is done, would klopp have encouraged Lovren to get out of his slump in form? What of lallana and keita injured almost every time?

What were his fitness issues? Did he sustain an injury just before arriving at rangers? Or was he fat and obese?

You are not a sincere person Mr Komekn
and the truth cannot be hidden under the sun.

The bold is an allegation TOTALLY UNPROVEN and you think it's total true. This is not Nigeria you simply cannot owe players salary.

I doubt it because he is not saying that he wasn't paid but not in full,
that's means part of his income is in DISPUTE but in your biased mind you read it different.

It's not Gerrard job to get him fit. When you go on loan you should be fit or don't go AT ALL.

If Sadiq felt he was owed salary one report to the PFA and the matter is ended.

You have no idea and instead of you to learn you desire to remain ignorant. You ignore and even dismiss all the established facts, but hold on to self justified opinionated sentiment.

That sounds very familiar, you seem to be using two different monikers. You aren't new here.

You take one view that's being balanced.

I don't take a view. I establish the facts and the pattern of behaviour associated with those facts. Then using a balance of probabilities and the argument of the reasonable man, l come to an informed decision.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:18am On Nov 30, 2019
abeg when u dey go Europe 6/7 times I hope say na naija players u dey go watch.. abeg help us keep an eye of on them. Just because most of them are in England don't mean we don't have some diamonds outside. As u dey do scout work so, keep an open mind grin
komekn:


I am very balanced and objective.

I have an indepth knowledge and experiential as well of English football. That means I know lots of coaches, scouts, heads of recruitment, Agents pkayers including Nigerian players and a few Managers.

That's my background.

I go to Europe at least 6/7 times a year on account of football.

My knowledge is not culled from the media it's quite often first hand.

I remember when stated Fikayo Tomori was not good enough two seasons ago. When l watched him a season later I did a U TURN.

When Osimhen was in Wolfsburg l remember saying he needs to go to a less competitive league and make his way forward from there. And progress it seems he listened.

My reference point will always be the EPL ask all.the players from Nigeria where would they all like to go.

Out most outstanding players have always mainly come from the EPL.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:28am On Nov 30, 2019
Lingard? I no dey follow EPL like that sha.

komekn:


Not one player is regular first team player for this season.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:45am On Nov 30, 2019
elyte89:



Even @ DT,if one is not talented enuf or doesn't knw d football basics @ least,...a top club like Valencia won't sign him cool

Go and google about a player named Senderos
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:53am On Nov 30, 2019
komekn:


I would not neccesarily agree with that.

Because if he is then come January he should be in Tottenham. If he is not, then your completely wrong in your assumption.

If he does not go to Tottenham that does mean he's not a Mourinho type of striker

You can be ridiculous

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:17am On Nov 30, 2019
komekn:


I would not neccesarily agree with that.

Because if he is then come January he should be in Tottenham. If he is not, then your completely wrong in your assumption.

I agree that Osimhen is a Mourinho type striker. He has all the attributes to excel under the tutelage of Mourinho like Drogba did.

That does not mean, he will go to Tottenham even if they bid for him. The choice of where he goes will be made by the boy and his handlers.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 4:24am On Nov 30, 2019
komekn:



I am very balanced and objective.


I have an indepth knowledge and experiential as well of English football. That means I know lots of coaches, scouts, heads of recruitment, Agents pkayers including Nigerian players and a few Managers.

That's my background.

I go to Europe at least 6/7 times a year on account of football.

My knowledge is not culled from the media it's quite often first hand.

I remember when stated Fikayo Tomori was not good enough two seasons ago. When l watched him a season later I did a U TURN.

When Osimhen was in Wolfsburg l remember saying he needs to go to a less competitive league and make his way forward from there. And progress it seems he listened.


My reference point will always be the EPL ask all.the players from Nigeria where would they all like to go.


Out most outstanding players have always mainly come from the EPL.


the first bolded is a big fat lie...it is only your friends that can tell you that your mouth stinks.

the second bolded..... shows your parochial mindset... you barely think deep.....


you really need to understand that not all players can cut it in the epl but that does not mean they're poor or below average....


I don't know how to make you think like someone that went to school again.......

even a baby won't think this way.... it just shows "shallow reasoning"
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 4:32am On Nov 30, 2019
komekn:


I would not neccesarily agree with that.

Because if he is then come January he should be in Tottenham. If he is not, then your completely wrong in your assumption.

what if Mouriho already have a perfect player in that role....
you expect him to go bench Harry Kane?

na wa oooo..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:43am On Nov 30, 2019
Grab your copy quick

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jieta: 5:31am On Nov 30, 2019
jihday:
Grab your copy quick
Haba, how can somebody use 20,000 to buy ordinary Jessy not even super eagles Jessy but bendel insurance, who know that one.



Thank God for our aba brothers their business go sell well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:40am On Nov 30, 2019
grin komekn sef
Eartquake1:


If he does not go to Tottenham that does mean he's not a Mourinho type of striker

You can be ridiculous
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 6:28am On Nov 30, 2019
komekn:


I would not neccesarily agree with that.

Because if he is then come January he should be in Tottenham. If he is not, then your completely wrong in your assumption.

No insults intended, but u are quite mirthful and puerile most of the times. So every Mourinho kinda player must play under mourinho to prove that he is one?

Maybe Mourinho is also gonna raid Chelsea for Makalele sorry I mean Kante grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 6:56am On Nov 30, 2019
komekn:


Astana the creme of Kazakhstan were very poor they couldn't even beat the Man United youth team. Not one player in that team is a regular first team player for Manchester United.

Man U had already qualified and rested the entire first team for EPL action.

But of course you could never see it that way.

And u just forgot that judging by ur usual jaundiced illation and doctrine of analogy, a good number of Players from the lowly rated Astana/Kazakh league wouldn't make the Man United youth teams?
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:42am On Nov 30, 2019
ChrisKels:


No insults intended, but u are quite mirthful and puerile most of the times. So every Mourinho kinda player must play under mourinho to prove that he is one?

Maybe Mourinho is also gonna raid Chelsea for Makalele sorry I mean Kante grin

bro...just imagine the conclusion....
even my little nephew won't say that...

I don't know oooo even if you don't watch football as a literate can't you think broad...or didn't he do mathematics in school "probability theory"

the thing tire me
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:50am On Nov 30, 2019
Joebie:
abeg when u dey go Europe 6/7 times I hope say na naija players u dey go watch.. abeg help us keep an eye of on them. Just because most of them are in England don't mean we don't have some diamonds outside. As u dey do scout work so, keep an open mind grin

A few years ago met a Nigerian at Braga he had come over from Nigeria.

This was when you still had TPI in Portugal the system was highly corrupted. I have decided not to get involved with Portuguese football l found there to be very little integrity.

Also they pay youth players peanuts imagine players on €1500 a month although they provide feeding and accommodation. But it's very poor.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:51am On Nov 30, 2019
Joebie:
Lingard? I no dey follow EPL like that sha.


Lingard has lost his way he is no longer first choice.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:59am On Nov 30, 2019
tbaba1234:


I agree that Osimhen is a Mourinho type striker. He has all the attributes to excel under the tutelage of Mourinho like Drogba did.

That does not mean, he will go to Tottenham even if they bid for him. The choice of where he goes will be made by the boy and his handlers.

In my opinion Mourinho hardly makes or creates players. He gets the finished article and strategically places them within his teams for best effect and advantage.

Drogba was already Drogba before Mourinho met him. He has the capacity to motivate when he get it right but that's not all the time.

I don't think they will bid for him. Because he is not in the mold of Drogba. Lukaku came to Chelsea and had far better Drogba like attributes and reputation but NEVER GOT A CHANCE at Chelsea.

Osimhen is more like Vardy than Drogba to me in his playing style.

Or maybe we should ask, What is a Mourinho type player ❓ Because we seem to all have completely different takes on the same question.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:03am On Nov 30, 2019
ChrisKels:


Are u really taking Safari girl seriously? what does she really know about the Igbo culture? Safarigirl na "my papa say we from so and so village, hence I be Igbo"


I sincerely wish it was this easy for me, I sincerely do.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:09am On Nov 30, 2019
safarigirl:
I sincerely wish it was this easy for me, I sincerely do.

To straggle a bit from the feminism ish, from first hand experience as an Aro, how much do u know about ur history as regards ur culture and, then, the pioneers of the present day Arochukwu.


Just wanna learn from u.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:12am On Nov 30, 2019
elyte89:



Even @ DT,if one is not talented enuf or doesn't knw d football basics @ least,...a top club like Valencia won't sign him cool

For me a good agent is mostly a crooked agent.

In this context the gate keepers at the club will be looking for the best deal and the best kick back in thier offshore accounts.

Not neccesarily the best player if they can get the both they will.

Gate keepers, recruitment heads, scouts and even a lot of Managers.

Your agents relationship with them is pivotal. To enter some clubs you will have to deal with a specific agent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:18am On Nov 30, 2019
komekn:


In my opinion Mourinho hardly makes or creates players. He gets the finished article and strategically places them within his teams for best effect and advantage.

Drogba was already Drogba before Mourinho met him. He has the capacity to motivate when he get it right but that's not all the time.

I don't think they will bid for him. Because he is not in the mold of Drogba. Lukaku came to Chelsea and had far better Drogba like attributes and reputation but NEVER GOT A CHANCE at Chelsea.

Osimhen is more like Vardy than Drogba to me in his playing style.

Or maybe we should ask, What is a Mourinho type player ❓ Because we seem to all have completely different takes on the same question.

Drogba was not the finished article when he first joined Chelsea. Neither was Lampard and Terry. Damain Duff , Joe Cole and Robben all became better players under Mourinho.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:35am On Nov 30, 2019
ChrisKels:


To straggle a bit from the feminism ish, from first hand experience as an Aro, how much do u know about ur history as regards ur culture and, then, the pioneers of the present day Arochukwu.


Just wanna learn from u.

If you want to learn from me, you can meet up with me one on one and have a proper discussion.

The one I told you earlier, you threw it in my face, now you really think I would be exhibiting any type of intelligence, by answering you to 'prove my origin'? So, you'll throw that one in my face too, abi?

Whenever you're in Abuja, hit me up and we can speak lengthily about history. As far as this internet is concerned, and you especially, I owe you nothing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:35am On Nov 30, 2019
Humility017:


I have told him before one of the vital attribute that makes up a graduate....

is having a critical mind of analysis...being holistic in reasoning, ability to consider several variables, broad in thinking in achieving a goal......

a literate does not think one way only....

if you can't harmonise both foreign born and home groomed to get the best results in football it means you still can't do same in medicines, engineering, commercials and more

Analytical reasoning require that you have a unit of measurement that is unquestionably objective, inconsiderate of personal permutations and or circumstances.

There is nothing like Foreign born or Nigerian born there are only the best Nigerian players
.

One standard irrespective of your birth place or where you were nurtured. Who is best gets selected ❓

When l was standing up for Obagoal, Ighalo and even long time ago Efe Ambrose it was based on performance not place or birth.

But look at what we have Nwakali brothers invited without any basis, Osimhen initial invite without basis, going back Iwobi invited without playing a single first team game for Nigeria. These are facts not assumptions.

Today Ovie has made his intention clear to play for Nigeria, So did Eze, Iorfa and others but double standard prevails.

You don't anchor your argument on facts just prejudiced opinionated supposition. To date NOBODY has been able to contend with me on the facts.

You deviate with nonsensical suggestion about Solanke. For reasons unknown but to yourself.

When challenged to substantiate your position you go EVASIVE.

You are talking about being critical. You haven't idea. To date you come up with anecdotal statement all the time. You will buttress your argument with statements like " Everybody knows "

When you and many likes you are faced with a substantive fact based deductions. You run away and hide or resort to vitriolic rhetoric and noise making with wild allegations.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:48am On Nov 30, 2019
komekn:


Analytical reasoning require that you have a unit of measurement that is unquestionably objective, inconsiderate of personal permutations and or circumstances.

There is nothing like Foreign born or Nigerian born there are only the best Nigerian players
.

One standard irrespective of your birth place or where you were nurtured. Who is best gets selected ❓

When l was standing up for Obagoal, Ighalo and even long time ago Efe Ambrose it was based on performance not place or birth.

But look at what we have Nwakali brothers invited without any basis, Osimhen initial invite without basis, going back Iwobi invited without playing a single first team game for Nigeria. These are facts not assumptions.

Today Ovie has made his intention clear to play for Nigeria, So did Eze, Iorfa and others but double standard prevails.

You don't anchor your argument on facts just prejudiced opinionated supposition. To date NOBODY has been able to contend with me on the facts.

You deviate with nonsensical suggestion about Solanke. For reasons unknown but to yourself.

When challenged to substantiate your position you go EVASIVE.

You are talking about being critical. You haven't idea. To date you come up with anecdotal statement all the time. You will buttress your argument with statements like " Everybody knows "

When you and many likes you are faced with a substantive fact based deductions. You run away and hide or resort to vitriolic rhetoric and noise making with wild allegations.

oga that statement was not directed at you...

joebie knows who own that statement....

and for you...so you can analytical
why don't you apply same analysis in relating to SADIQ UMAR failed sojourn in Scotland... one bad experience does not judge a player as damn poor....

instead you're trying to still prove how poor he is and not up to rangers standard even when he is doing well in Belgrade....

must everyone okay in Scotland or England prior you deem them good enough...

you really need to apply your analysis on this...everyone cannot cut it out in same league but that does not reduce their quality

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