yeah

another kenya sgr loss story in the making

vaxx1:
it is Tanzania bro

Just30:



with money from where

just check their GDP to know and gdp per cap to know that it is not feasible

They will tell you it is only on paper . which I keep laughing.....

their revenue expose them big time.. Tanzania is just big for nothing.... very unproductive....

vaxx1:
They will tell you it is only on paper . which I keep laughing.....

their revenue expose them big time.. Tanzania is just big for nothing.... very unproductive....

just like Kenya

they are in the same league

Just30:


you are this dumb

the 14 billion is going to the construction company.


another Kenya loss making venture is being created

Now 726 km are in construction for 2.5 Usd billion and the total project is 1800km, the government has a railway budget of 7.5 usd billion for 5 years completion timeline not 14usd billion.

Just30:
yeah

another kenya sgr loss story in the making

The only successful project from east Africa regarding the railway is that of the Ethiopia - Djibouti railway . look at the amount of tonnes trading on that corridor. Ethiopia is the big force of east Africa, either they take it or live jt.

The 725km is the only one you will because able to do
That is what your economy can support.

even in the next 20 years, your economy will not be able to support a 14 billion dollars on a single project.


You will have to be more productive to be able to spend that amount on a railroad

Acadavah:


Now 726 km are in construction for 2.5 Usd billion and the total project is 1457km, the government has a railway budget of 7.5 usd billion for 5 years completion timeline not 14usd billion.

That is working well because Ethiopia is building a productive economy

vaxx1:
The only successful project from east Africa regarding the railway is that of the Ethiopia - Djibouti railway . look at the amount of tonnes trading on that corridor. Ethiopia is the big force of east Africa, either they take it or live jt.

Acadavah:


Now 726 km are in construction for 2.5 Usd billion and the total project is 1800km, the government has a railway budget of 7.5 usd billion for 5 years completion timeline not 14usd billion.[

so why the lies from kazikazi

Just30:
The 725km is the only one you will because able to do
That is what your economy can support.

even in the next 20 years, your economy will not be able to support a 14 billion dollars on a single project.


You will have to be more productive to be able to spend that amount on a railroad

It doesn't cost 14usd bill. The first phase of 300km which will be completed in early months of next year cost 1.2 usd bill, the second phase of 426 km cost 1.46usd bill. The remaining phases are 435 km, 220km and 371km cost 942Usd million from from place called Isaka to Kigali Rwanda which World Bank has expressed its willingness to fund it.

Acadavah:

[b]
It doesn't cost 14usd bill. [/b]The first phase of 300km which will be completed in early months of next year cost 1.2 usd bill, the second phase of 426 km cost 1.46usd bill. The remaining phases are 435 km, 220km and 371km cost 942Usd million from from place called Isaka to Kigali Rwanda which World Bank has expressed its willingness to fund it.

so where does kazikazi got his lies from? Ghana is also linking Burkina Faso by train and the cost is expected to be divided by both countries .

Acadavah:


It doesn't cost 14usd bill. The first phase of 300km which will be completed in early months of next year cost 1.2 usd bill, the second phase of 426 km cost 1.46usd bill. The remaining phases are 435 km, 220km and 371km cost 942Usd million from from place called Isaka to Kigali Rwanda which World Bank has expressed its willingness to fund it.

we all know you will have to meet certain economic conditionalities to be able to access World bank funds.

One of then is your level of production.

your economy will not be able to support that project beyond the initial 2.5 billion dollars
mere facts

Just30:
we all know you will have to meet certain economic conditionalities to be able to access World bank funds.

One of then is your level of production.

your economy will not be able to support that project beyond the initial 2.5 billion dollars
mere facts

This is where a country that is economically stable are questioned and known .

Just30:
we all know you will have to meet certain economic conditionalities to be able to access World bank funds.

One of then is your level of production.

your economy will not be able to support that project beyond the initial 2.5 billion dollars
mere facts

They even have a negative credit rating . their ambition to rake more revenue is assumed to be difficult to achieved ....

vaxx1:
They even have a negative credit rating . their ambition to rake more revenue is assumed to be difficult to achieved ....

Our revenue authority is expected to collect 10usd bill in this budget year 2019/2020. Even without loans we can build by ourselves that railway for 5 years.

Acadavah:


Our revenue authority is expected to collect 10usd bill in this budget year 2019/2020. Even without loans we can build by ourselves that railway for 5 years.

Moody credit agency downplay your capacity....

Very funny. Do you have any figures? Ethiopia you know is your communist buddy with TZ & Ghana - ask Mr Nkurmah, Nyerere and Haile - what they did to your countries economic foundation.

Ethiopia already asked for debt rescheduling - 30yr extension from Chinese for 4B dollars loan - and chinese granted them. There is very little to suggest Ethiopia SGR will break even.

Facts are very stubborn..

kenya on daily basis run upto 28 trains....Ethiopia have two trains - that occasional stall - and yet they began operations about two years.

As regard to Tanzania SGR - that one wont be making any headway soon.

Remember IMF has bailed out the communist - Ethiopia, Ghana and Tanzania - severally before - and that is not about to change.

The communist mentality has to change.


https://www.reuters.com/article/ethiopia-china-loan/update-1-ethiopia-pm-says-china-will-restructure-railway-loan-idUSL5N1VS4IW

vaxx1:
The only successful project from east Africa regarding the railway is that of the Ethiopia - Djibouti railway . look at the amount of tonnes trading on that corridor. Ethiopia is the big force of east Africa, either they take it or live jt.

Ghana and TZ have the same credit rating.

vaxx1:
Moody credit agency downplay your capacity....

rvp20182:
Ghana and TZ have the same credit rating.

Not true . Ghana was even more credit worthy than kenya

rvp20182:
Very funny. Do you have any figures? Ethiopia you know is your communist buddy with TZ & Ghana - ask Mr Nkurmah, Nyerere and Haile - what they did to your countries economic foundation.

Ethiopia already asked for debt rescheduling - 30yr extension from Chinese for 4B dollars loan - and chinese granted them. There is very little to suggest Ethiopia SGR will break even.

Facts are very stubborn..

kenya on daily basis run upto 28 trains....Ethiopia have two trains - that occasional stall - and yet they began operations about two years.

As regard to Tanzania SGR - that one wont be making any headway soon.

Remember IMF has bailed out the communist - Ethiopia, Ghana and Tanzania - severally before - and that is not about to change.

The communist mentality has to change.


https://www.reuters.com/article/ethiopia-china-loan/update-1-ethiopia-pm-says-china-will-restructure-railway-loan-idUSL5N1VS4IW

freight train from the port city of Djibouti City in Djbouti to Addis Ababa, capital of Ethiopia, transported 70,000 tonnes of fertilizer within just 11 hours. Had it gone by road, it would have taken 75 trucks spending as much as three days.

This is the kind of benefit Ghana and Burkina Faso stand to benefit after the completion of the project.

how much are the undisclosed debt China has forgiven kenya ?


IMF has a job and that is to bail out weak country that meet her economic capacity.

The next reply will be laced with insult . I don't. spare gullible idiot .

Stop lying. In the era of information age. You sound creepy when you lie and we are google away. You don't produce that much solar power and 155mw can electrify a million house - not 10k.

Ghana has to move away from thermal power - esp those that don't use natural gas

Nobody is going to an allow IMF colony to NUCLEAR POWER. Those are wet dreams.

vaxx1:
lol.... Ghana has the biggest photovoltaic (PV) and the largest solar energy plant in Africa, the Nzema project, based in Ghana, we are talking of 155MW plant currently providing over 10, 000 houses with constant uninterrupted power supply . in clean energy , pls , you are far behind. we are even developing nuclear technology in that sector. unlike how you guys do it , Ghana concentrated solar is using photovoltaic (PV) technology to convert sunlight directly into electricity. there is curent Installation of more than 630,000 solar PV modules.

rvp20182:
Very funny. Do you have any figures? Ethiopia you know is your communist buddy with TZ & Ghana - ask Mr Nkurmah, Nyerere and Haile - what they did to your countries economic foundation.

Ethiopia already asked for debt rescheduling - 30yr extension from Chinese for 4B dollars loan - and chinese granted them. There is very little to suggest Ethiopia SGR will break even.

Facts are very stubborn..

kenya on daily basis run upto 28 trains....Ethiopia have two trains - that occasional stall - and yet they began operations about two years.

As regard to Tanzania SGR - that one wont be making any headway soon.

Remember IMF has bailed out the communist - Ethiopia, Ghana and Tanzania - severally before - and that is not about to change.

The communist mentality has to change.


https://www.reuters.com/article/ethiopia-china-loan/update-1-ethiopia-pm-says-china-will-restructure-railway-loan-idUSL5N1VS4IW

IMF have bailed out us only time in 1980's.

rvp20182:
Stop lying. In the era of information age. You sound creepy when you lie and we are google away. You don't produce that much solar power and 155mw can electrify a million house - not 10k.

Ghana has to move away from thermal power - esp those that don't use natural gas

Nobody is going to an allow IMF colony to NUCLEAR POWER. Those are wet dreams.

You are stubborn to common knolwedge, 10, 000 houses are not just simply an apartment , they are also business and industry attached. and 155 megawatt can't electricity a million house unless it is rural community like kenya. Ghana current capacity on solar energy is transparent for anybody who can use the internet.

You are just dammn stupid, when agreement on how to devolve the nuclear technology is been positioned. Ghana isn't a colony of China that needs to wait for China voice before piloting anything economically viable.

south africa had already deplore its own...

Acadavah:


IMF have bailed out us only time in 1980's.

There is NOTHING wrong if IMF continue bailing you out until you become successful. that is why they are there. it is better than to be entrapped into China debt .

vaxx1:
freight train from the port city of Djibouti City in Djbouti to Addis Ababa, capital of Ethiopia, transported 70,000 tonnes of fertilizer within just 11 hours. Had it gone by road, it would have taken 75 trucks spending as much as three days.

This is the kind of benefit Ghana and Burkina Faso stand to benefit after the completion of the project.

how much are the undisclosed debt China has forgiven kenya ?


IMF has a job and that is to bail out weak country that meet her economic capacity.

The next reply will be laced with insult . I don't. spare gullible idiot .

What is 70,000 tonnes..that about maybe 4 train loads...in a day we do 14 trains up and 14 trains down..in our 2nd yr of operation we will close 5m metric tonnes

rvp20182:
What is 70,000 tonnes..that about maybe 4 train loads...in a day we do 14 trains up and 14 trains down..in our 2nd yr of operation we will close 5m metric tonnes

It is more than taking when evidence out there indicate your SGR is incapacitated. This is giving your goverment headache . it is another white elephant job just like the kisumu project. why haven't you commissioned it all this while ?

Acadavah:


IMF have bailed out us only time in 1980's.

Yes around 1985 but IMF colony started bailout in 1961 and last one this year 2019.Its a joke of a country with hyperinflation the order of the day

vaxx1:
There is NOTHING wrong if IMF continue bailing you out until you become successful. that is why they are there. it is better than to be entrapped into China debt .

That's true, IMF will not take your ports or Mines like China. The Chinese are kind like own the Angola's oil because of the large debts. But be under control of IMF that represents the failure of your economy. They won't be there controlling you if you run your economy properly.

Acadavah:


That's true, IMF will not take your ports or Mines like China. The Chines are kind like own the Angola's oil because of the large debts.

They will also works with the goverment institution to ensure you meet up with your obligations. why should any country embroiled in a contract that is hiding in secrecy. IMF conditions are transparent.

rvp20182:
Yes around 1985 but IMF colony started bailout in 1961 and last one this year 2019.Its a joke of a country with hyperinflation the order of the day

You want to compare your highly China indebted colony to Ghana? can you show us the complain made in your BBI report ? useless country center on corruption and heavy debt.

Just30:
just like Kenya

they are in the same league

leave Kenya out of your arguments please. What is Ghana

vaxx1:
Moody credit agency downplay your capacity....

What is Ghana's credit rating this year? Tell us !!

Acadavah:


What is Ghana's credit rating this year? Tell us !!

it is on the internet but here it is for both 2019 and 2018 . you appear so cool.....