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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Nobody: 4:59am On Dec 01, 2019
Muleriders:


Judging from all your stupid writeups all over nairaland, you didn't sound like someone who have been outside the shores of this country. Infact, you sounded bittered like someone who Walter Carrington has slammed over and over again.

You comparing a place with law, orderliness, reasonable environment to ketu shows that you are daft.


You comparing where people don't see cars as an achievement, where basic amenities is not something to fast and pray on, to a country where you have to share testimony in church because you bought a 2001 corolla shows you are dumb.


Comparing a place where you get quality education, world class infrastructure, and global exposure to a place where education is a complete mess shows that you are sick.


Comparing a place where police and security forces are happy rendering service to you in a rapid response to a place where it takes pizza 5mins to deliver while police and fire service takes 10hours shows you are insane.


Comparing a place where you can walk into any firm, submit application and get employed without having to know anybody to a place where the first question to be asked is "who referred you?, do you know anybody here?" shows you are lunatic.


Comparing a place where County, individuals and government is ready to assist you to grow, a place where every startups like fintech, farm crowdy, paystack and the likes run to to get start up fund to Nigeria where the government will literally kill your business with nepa bills, local govt levy, state levy, association levy, Union levy, shows that you are re-tarded.


Comparing a place where you can enjoy stable water, 24hrs light, access to resources, average car, and even buy house on mortgage even when you are earning $10 per hour to a place where you will struggle to earn 80k monthly on average. From it, 10k goes to generator fuelling, 10k goes to nepa without light, armed robbers will also have Thier shares shows that you are brain sick.



Comparing a place where I can wear deadlock, tattoo, and even army camo, and I won't be scared of intimidation. Infact, they will be happy to take pictures with you to a place where sarz will harass you and even shoot you because you are using iPhone shows you are crazy.



Comparing a place where lecturers and instructors are happy to teach you and make you great to a place where lecturers will boldly tell you that you will fail a course and you dare not revolt shows that you are mentality deranged.


I work just 20hours weekly cos I'm a student, I own an average car, rent my own apartment, enjoy 24hrs light, water, good road, healthcare, and World class resources,
Just imagine what it will look like if I'm a full time worker. This are basic things I never enjoyed with my 100k salary working from 7am to 7pm while in Nigeria



I'm done with you and will never reply you again.



My advice to everyone, if you have the chance and opportunity to migrate legally, please do. Your next generation will be forever grateful to you.
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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Basalt(m): 5:00am On Dec 01, 2019
Jacknn:
Mr basalt,is weekend plz reply my questions
1, I want to know since your undergrad was a geoscience course geology to precise, I want to know if u still opted out for a geology related course,if u actuality did,which course was it??

2, I'm on the verge of sending apps to schools,I'm contemplating if I should go for mining courses,environmental courses,sustainable mining etc than geology or geophysics bkaux of the German economy or I should stick wit geoscience courses

3, since you're there,and UV seen it all with course advice to give,so what's ur take on geology/geophysics courses,should I stick or divert, if derris any course to refer pls let me know,

Let me pm you,pls reply but also help answer my questions here too for benefits of others(geoscientists)

I have already answered your question few days ago
Jacknn:


Okay tanks,my B.Sc was geophysics with a cgpa of 2.67,my first question is how flexible in the job market geophysics,geology is in the job market in Germany is it okay I continue my MSC in Germany also doing same geophysics as I am thinking of choosing another course relating to IT DAT still have connection with geoscience, something like data management etc
2) my main aim is to get a job after MSC,is not like I'm suffering to eat here in naija or shelter etc,I can decide to hang on to wait for job over here but naija as it seems now is so unpredictable and age is not by anyones side,what are the things to consider in my job search after my MSC,bkaux DAT is the main reason For me wanting to leave naija,not to hussle
since you're there and also doing my course I have deemed u overly fit to guide me tru this as I intend traveling 2020,intend ryting ielts Feb time and start processing things, please help me with credible and good information so I won't make mistake,especially my course choice, tell me the best to do since you're in Germany and the labour market demands
I really appreciate your response Mr basalt when free,thanks in anticipation..

This is my answer

Basalt:

Nice Questions.
Well, I have not yet graduated and got professional jobs but I think I already have the idea from the intensive research I did even before application.

First of all, I will start by telling you that you should be worried about getting MSc admission first because your GP is on the lower side (if actually 5 is your maximum scale)
Most German schools demand 2.5 German scale (This is the formular for converting your GP to German scale =Nmax-Nattained/Nmax-Nlowest) x3+1.
I did a quick calculation on your GP and got 2.747 German scale which is below 2.5. Most schools will send you rejection mail unless you have practical experience related to your course to back it up. Thats why I said you should first think about how to get admission with GP less than 2.5 German scale (Nigeria highest is 5 while German highest is 1), though its very much possible but usually harder.
Note that in Germany, the smaller the grade the better.
1,0-1,5 sehr gut
(very good: an outstanding
achievement)
1,6-2,5 gut (good: an achievement which lies
substantially above average requirements)
2,6-3,5 befriedigend (satisfactory: an
achievement which corresponds to average
requirements)
3,6-4,0 ausreichend (sufficient: an
achievement which barely meets the
requirements)
4,1-5,0 nicht ausreichend / nicht bestanden
(not sufficient / failed: an achievement which

Secondly, I think data management is IT course and not so related to Geophysics. I doubt you can get admission in MSc Data management with a BSc in Geophysics. If you wanna change carrier, you start from the scratch (B.Sc) and mind you that most Data management MSc courses are not tuition free, so you have to be prepared for tuition fees.

You made mention of professional jobs being the main reason you wanna migrate to Germany. I perfectly understand your point. If you are a registered member of linkedin, you will see many Geoscience vacancies in Germany which shows that Geoscientists are still in demand but the question is ARE YOU QUALIFIED?
The first step to qualification is knowing GERMAN to atleast B2, having practical skills which you can get from the industry during your internship, attending seminars and making connections etc.
Truly, there are more opportunities for those in IT field but also know that Indians are mostly in IT and they are very good in IT so you must also be ready to equip yourself and compete with them in the job market.
Let me also tell you something you have not thought about.
Don't you think you can stay in Germany as a student and raise millions of naira (which is not easy to raise in Nigeria) and still graduate with a good GP, then in the worst case scenario if getting professional job in the country fails due to limited opportunity for your course or due to your inability to possess what they need, you can use the millions of naira to migrate to other countries that have more opportunities for your course?
Countries like Canada, USA, Australia, Norway all have good opportunities for earth scientists due to their wealth in Oil deposit and kerogen.
So you have nothing to lose in Germany if you have a good GP and practical skills and save money for possible migration when you encounter worst case scenario.
Before the end of my MSc program, I am targetting atleast 5million naira savings that even if the worst happens which is not our portion, I can use the money to finance myself and explore other countries.
My number one aim of leaving Nigeria is to be a citizen of a first world country. If Germany don't give it to me through the process of getting professional job or marriage, then I try other countries. My heart will rejoice wheneever I get any of the following international passport
Germany or Australia or America or Canada or UK or any passport of any good and sane country to retire with my children.
Returning to Nigeria to base after studies is not an option at all and I know for sure that God will grant me of my heart desire. I don't know about you but I am working towards possessing a first world international passport to add to the Nigerian own I already have so that I can easily migrate whenever I need even in my old agegrin grin grin,

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Cvesta(m): 6:45am On Dec 01, 2019
What does a cgpa of 3.8 translate to in German?

Cc basalt
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Jacknn: 6:47am On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt:


I have already answered your question few days ago


This is my answer




Okay thanks man,clearly get you now,mind is made up..I appreciate
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Basalt(m): 7:18am On Dec 01, 2019
Cvesta:
What does a cgpa of 3.8 translate to in German?

Cc basalt

1.90 German scale

IT FALLS UNDER
1,6-2,5 gut
(good: an achievement which lies
substantially above average requirements)
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Cvesta(m): 7:33am On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt:


1.90 German scale

IT FALLS UNDER
1,6-2,5 gut
(good: an achievement which lies
substantially above average requirements)

Alright thanks. is it advisable to try msc in IT or IT Related course? My actual Bsc is pol science And pub admin. Any chance of admission? Or are there places outside the varsity one can undergo IT training?
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by austino677(m): 7:35am On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt:


Enjoy? My brother, I have not started enjoying yet. I sleep only 2days in my house (Friday and Saturday) and usually 5hrs every day the other remaining days I work.
Its not easy, na why I rarely reply messages during the working days. I really need to pay back my inlaw his money back before the next year, though he is not putting pressure on me but I want to pay it back and then know that every money I make is mine.
you'll definitely make it... Pls don't over stress yourself na person wey get strength dey work oo

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Basalt(m): 7:48am On Dec 01, 2019
Cvesta:


Alright thanks. is it advisable to try msc in IT or IT Related course? My actual Bsc is pol science And pub admin. Any chance of admission? Or are there places outside the varsity one can undergo IT training?

It is impossible to do MSc in IT with Bsc in political science. Yes, there are coding camps where you can undergo IT training
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Mastermindx: 7:52am On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt:


It is impossible to do MSc in IT with Bsc in political science. Yes, there are coding camps where you can undergo IT training


Will an 100L transcript in computer science from open university be used for admission?
And 5million is big.... very big

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Cvesta(m): 7:55am On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt:


It is impossible to do MSc in IT with Bsc in political science. Yes, there are coding camps where you can undergo IT training

Thanks sorry for derailing
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Basalt(m): 8:59am On Dec 01, 2019
Mastermindx:


Will an 100L transcript in computer science from open university be used for admission?
And 5million is big.... very big

LOL, student visa is a big investment. Block acount alone including bank charges will cost you close to 4.2million.
Then you need to hold about 1000 euros for accomodation and caution fee, you need to buy foodstuffs and also pay your flight ticket and pay your semester fee. Ofcus you will be eating before they unblock your Block account. You need to be very economical for 5million to even be enough honestly
at the bolded
I really don't know about that but maybe you can ask in our visa thread

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Basalt(m): 9:14am On Dec 01, 2019
Lets do a quick calculation

Block account
10,400 Euro (including charges)
flight 500 euro
accomodation and caution fee 1000 euro
school fees (semester contribution) 300 euros
Food stuffs, footwears and clothes 275 euros
TOTAL = 12,475 Euros which is equivalent to #4,990,000 without any pocket money added.
Ofcus you must hold some money for hand wey you go dey spend before they unblock your account because they won't unblock your account immediately you arrive. You still need to do some certain things and spend some days if not weeks before you get shishi from your block account.

So budget atleast 5million naira and be ready to be very very economical if not, even 5million nogo do.

This is just a rough estimate based on my little experience

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by iammiracle1(m): 10:10am On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt:


It is impossible to do MSc in IT with Bsc in political science. Yes, there are coding camps where you can undergo IT training

What about someone with a bachelors in Civil Engineering ? Can an msc in IT work? Or e would have to start afresh?
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by richie240: 10:12am On Dec 01, 2019
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by lifeofkelvino(m): 10:21am On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt.

I'm a freelancer earning quite some good amount of money online (above $2k per month). I'm still in school though. (Final year)

However, I'm considering moving to Germany after studies. Many of my folks are discouraging me against this move saying I will regret it since I'm very comfortable in Nigeria. ( The grass is not always greener. My dad still pays all my bills while I earn a lot of money too. But for some reasons, I hate this country and will want to leave immediately after school.

I've already saved out money for my blocked account.

With your experience, do you think Germany is worth it?

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Basalt(m): 10:34am On Dec 01, 2019
iammiracle1:


What about someone with a bachelors in Civil Engineering ? Can an msc in IT work? Or e would have to start afresh?

I seriously doubt but You can check the requirements for the IT course from the school's website.
Don't you like MSc in Civil Engineering?
It's a good profession here
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by Basalt(m): 10:37am On Dec 01, 2019
lifeofkelvino:
Basalt.

I'm a freelancer earning quite some good amount of money online (above $2k per month). I'm still in school though. (Final year)

However, I'm considering moving to Germany after studies. Many of my folks are discouraging me against this move saying I will regret it since I'm very comfortable in Nigeria. ( The grass is not always greener. My dad still pays all my bills while I earn a lot of money too. But for some reasons, I hate this country and will want to leave immediately after school.

I've already saved out money for my blocked account.

With your experience, do you think Germany is worth it?

Waooo, 2000 dollars monthly online while still a student, thats lots of money compared to very low cost of living.
You didn't mention your course. It will help me to know what to say next

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by iammiracle1(m): 10:37am On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt:


I seriously doubt but You can check the requirements for the IT course from the school's website.
Don't you like MSc in Civil Engineering?
It's a good profession here

Really? I heard that as its a developed country there isn't really much need for civil engrs...bro please can you help me convert a 4.1 CGPA to German?
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by LadyHeaven(f): 10:46am On Dec 01, 2019
lifeofkelvino:
Basalt.

I'm a freelancer earning quite some good amount of money online (above $2k per month). I'm still in school though. (Final year)

However, I'm considering moving to Germany after studies. Many of my folks are discouraging me against this move saying I will regret it since I'm very comfortable in Nigeria. ( The grass is not always greener. My dad still pays all my bills while I earn a lot of money too. But for some reasons, I hate this country and will want to leave immediately after school.

I've already saved out money for my blocked account.

With your experience, do you think Germany is worth it?

shocked Such amount made legitimately online, that is great, Please can you teach/mentor me on the online jobs you do? With such I can save and pursue my dreams.

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by themaestro08(m): 10:54am On Dec 01, 2019
[s][/s][quote author=AgreatMan post=84102238] Everyone who went to Germany wanted to make it but life is a biatch. You are still in the system and it's a bit too early to give advise.

Start planning your exit bro, na countdown u dey. But all four points points are valid tho.

I dey enjoy your writing skills tho. But try and get a native. What's d point in paying all that plane money only to hook up with another Naija girl. Them never tire uuu? Even if u dey reason black, you no see colored South Africans or Ethiopians for ground? I go vex for u o.

Relationship is like a negotiation. If a girl feels like u are getting a better deal than her, she will always be reluctant.
Don't be desperate. You will get something tentative, but making her ur gf is up to your game.

Forget all these talk of white girls being a racist or they care about what their folks will say. As long as u no worwor or black like charcoal, u will get something. You a black, u r scarce, n valuable. Goodluck bro.[s][/s]
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by lifeofkelvino(m): 11:21am On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt:


Waooo, 2000 dollars monthly online while still a student, thats lots of money compared to very low cost of living.
You didn't mention your course. It will help me to know what to say next

I'm currently studying Polymer and textile engineering
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by themaestro08(m): 11:34am On Dec 01, 2019
Muleriders:


Judging from all your stupid writeups all over nairaland, you didn't sound like someone who have been outside the shores of this country. Infact, you sounded bittered like someone who Walter Carrington has slammed over and over again.

You comparing a place with law, orderliness, reasonable environment to ketu shows that you are daft.


You comparing where people don't see cars as an achievement, where basic amenities is not something to fast and pray on, to a country where you have to share testimony in church because you bought a 2001 corolla shows you are dumb.


Comparing a place where you get quality education, world class infrastructure, and global exposure to a place where education is a complete mess shows that you are sick.


Comparing a place where police and security forces are happy rendering service to you in a rapid response to a place where it takes pizza 5mins to deliver while police and fire service takes 10hours shows you are insane.


Comparing a place where you can walk into any firm, submit application and get employed without having to know anybody to a place where the first question to be asked is "who referred you?, do you know anybody here?" shows you are lunatic.


Comparing a place where County, individuals and government is ready to assist you to grow, a place where every startups like fintech, farm crowdy, paystack and the likes run to to get start up fund to Nigeria where the government will literally kill your business with nepa bills, local govt levy, state levy, association levy, Union levy, shows that you are re-tarded.


Comparing a place where you can enjoy stable water, 24hrs light, access to resources, average car, and even buy house on mortgage even when you are earning $10 per hour to a place where you will struggle to earn 80k monthly on average. From it, 10k goes to generator fuelling, 10k goes to nepa without light, armed robbers will also have Thier shares shows that you are brain sick.



Comparing a place where I can wear deadlock, tattoo, and even army camo, and I won't be scared of intimidation. Infact, they will be happy to take pictures with you to a place where sarz will harass you and even shoot you because you are using iPhone shows you are crazy.



Comparing a place where lecturers and instructors are happy to teach you and make you great to a place where lecturers will boldly tell you that you will fail a course and you dare not revolt shows that you are mentality deranged.


I work just 20hours weekly cos I'm a student, I own an average car, rent my own apartment, enjoy 24hrs light, water, good road, healthcare, and World class resources,
Just imagine what it will look like if I'm a full time worker. This are basic things I never enjoyed with my 100k salary working from 7am to 7pm while in Nigeria



I'm done with you and will never reply you again.



My advice to everyone, if you have the chance and opportunity to migrate legally, please do. Your next generation will be forever grateful to you.
Brilliant comment.

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by lifeofkelvino(m): 11:58am On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt:


Waooo, 2000 dollars monthly online while still a student, thats lots of money compared to very low cost of living.
You didn't mention your course. It will help me to know what to say next

Lol.... I earn more than $3k+ on a very good month sef... However, it affected my Education a lot.

But money here does not guarantee quality of life here. That's why I want to move.

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by jmanity: 1:10pm On Dec 01, 2019
lifeofkelvino:


Lol.... I earn more than $3k+ on a very good month sef... However, it affected my Education a lot.

But money here does not guarantee quality of life here. That's why I want to move.

Please what do you do online bro? Show us the way abeg!

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by themaestro08(m): 1:46pm On Dec 01, 2019
I love your hustling spirit.

Good luck and keep updating us.

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by austino677(m): 2:38pm On Dec 01, 2019
Basalt:
Lets do a quick calculation

Block account
10,400 Euro (including charges)
flight 500 euro
accomodation and caution fee 1000 euro
school fees (semester contribution) 300 euros
Food stuffs, footwears and clothes 275 euros
TOTAL = 12,475 Euros which is equivalent to #4,990,000 without any pocket money added.
Ofcus you must hold some money for hand wey you go dey spend before they unblock your account because they won't unblock your account immediately you arrive. You still need to do some certain things and spend some days if not weeks before you get shishi from your block account.

So budget atleast 5million naira and be ready to be very very economical if not, even 5million nogo do.

This is just a rough estimate based on my little experience

person like us wey get only waec cert... But i can afford 50k euros fit get student visa? Any chance please help

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by jmanity: 3:10pm On Dec 01, 2019
austino677:
person like us wey get only waec cert... But i can afford 50k euros fit get student visa? Any chance please help


You have up to 50k euros, that's about ₦20millon; you can apply for B.sc in any country of your choice, preferably an English speaking country.

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by austino677(m): 3:16pm On Dec 01, 2019
jmanity:


You have up to 50k euros, that's about ₦20millon; you can apply for B.sc in any country of your choice, preferably an English speaking country.
Germany, Switzerland, Canada
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by GbadeTehmy(m): 4:42pm On Dec 01, 2019
lifeofkelvino:
Basalt.

I'm a freelancer earning quite some good amount of money online (above $2k per month). I'm still in school though. (Final year)

However, I'm considering moving to Germany after studies. Many of my folks are discouraging me against this move saying I will regret it since I'm very comfortable in Nigeria. ( The grass is not always greener. My dad still pays all my bills while I earn a lot of money too. But for some reasons, I hate this country and will want to leave immediately after school.

I've already saved out money for my blocked account.

With your experience, do you think Germany is worth it?


Boss,show me the way na..thiz is my mail tehmythayol@gmail.com or o81 zero 4 nine 4 nine 4 six 0
Pls make i pm you..
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by wizzyrainy(m): 7:18pm On Dec 01, 2019
I also studied geology, please which universities can I apply? Can I always chat you to get informed?
Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by LadyHeaven(f): 9:30pm On Dec 01, 2019
austino677:
person like us wey get only waec cert... But i can afford 50k euros fit get student visa? Any chance please help

Some countries have an age limit for bachelors, some require GRE/A levels + IELTS, some only require your money...there are plenty good countries you can achieve migration with such amount...in the hustle of migration finance is a big hurdle once you can check that off, if you are willing to read and pass basic exams, SOP's and are determined you are good to go.

If you are serious, take the leap.

@Basalt, I went through your old topics and saw that it was February you made the decision to travel rather than open up shop in onitsha, I am glad that the decision paid off, keep been focused...GL

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Re: DON'T LISTEN TO Anyone Who Discourages You From Travelling Abroad by austino677(m): 9:56pm On Dec 01, 2019
LadyHeaven:


Some countries have an age limit for bachelors, some require GRE/A levels + IELTS, some only require your money...there are plenty good countries you can achieve migration with such amount...in the hustle of migration finance is a big hurdle once you can check that off, if you are willing to read and pass basic exams, SOP's and are determined you are good to go.

If you are serious, take the leap.

@Basalt, I went through your old topics and saw that it was February you made the decision to travel rather than open up shop in onitsha, I am glad that the decision paid off, keep been focused...GL
yeah... I wished Germany will be on the list that requires only money

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