OtemAtum:

Just imagine saying that God created two beings Adam and Eve and for the very first time they disobeyed him, he rejected them and sent them out of his presence and later he regretted creating human, destroyed them with flood and eventually humans are in danger of being turned into everlasting fire. Lol. Is it this kind of story you call a logical story?

Jehovah your god must really be high on Edo weed to have really propagated this kind of philosophy. No wonder he and his colleagues were easily defeated and confined in a spiritual cage by the beings who support science.

Nothing in the story is illogical. It would be illogical if Adam killed God as in the infantile ancient story u direct people to go read

CanadaOrBust:


Well, a prophet greater than Muhammad said “I am not fit to tie his(Jesus) shoes.” So he is clearly more than a prophet. Also about 1700 years ago 318 people who spent all their lives studying the Bible gathered in Nicea and voted that Jesus and the Father are of one substance, one God in 3 persons. How can u and me know better 318 consummate Bible specialists

You mean how can God Almighty know better than 318 consummate Bible specialists. Nowaday, those that will gather to vote for such will be more than, 318 million people.

CanadaOrBust:


Why doesn’t this creator appear here to all mankind and tell them he is the creator? Why does he have to rely on lowly you with an internet moniker on Seun’s NL? And why wait till 2625? And 1.5 million earths can fit in the sun. 200 billion suns in the galaxy, 100 billion galaxies in the universe, then there are likely infinite number of universes. Someone who created all that is preoccupied with u?!

The CREATOR is not a humanlike being like Jehovah or Allah. The creator is the totality of existence. We humans are like the voice of God, but it's a great pity that from the origin of the world till date, we humans are being used by one god or the other to proclaim them as God Almighty, rather than recalling what God Almighty is exactly.
For example, some beings such as Enlil, Enki, Anu chose humans to call them God Almighty long ago. Later some other beings like El, Jehovah and Allah chose some people to regard them as God Almighty when they are just mere creatures of God Almighty. That's why we have thousands of stories about the supposed God Almighty all because they were picked by one being or the other to selfishly declare them as God Almighty rather than declaring exactly what God Almighty is.
God Almighty is actually the Totality of Existence and it is not a humanlike being. Now God Almighty doesn't even care about we humans knowing what it is or what it is not. It's Atum one of the brothers of Jehovah and Allah who cares so much for the world to know the truth once and for all, hence sending me to declare it. Atum, Olorun, Vishnu, Ra and many counterparts of Jehovah wanted this truth to be known by the world at this time so that the world will not continue to dwell in lies. Let me even tell you something, our current homo sapiens world has even existed for 282,019 years and it will still exist for more than a million years. So if the true beings want the truth of the UNIVERSE to come at this time, being the 282,019th year of the homo sapiens era, it is still a little fraction out of the more than 5 million years more years left for the homo sapiens to remain on this earth. It is not God Almighty that is occupied with me, it is Atum, the brother of Jehovah and many great beings of the past that are occupied with me. Left to God Almighty, it doesn't care whether human races( an insignificant fragment of existence) know the origin of the universes or not. But Atum, Olorun, Chukwu, Abassi, Nzame, Nyame, Ra, Vishnu, etc care to see humanities have a mind evolution and know the truth that none of them is God Almighty and to help us know how to channel our energies best.

Currently, Jehovah, Allah and thousands of beings who don't want this truth are caged spiritually and they shall remain caged for about 997 years more.
Peace.

CanadaOrBust:


Nothing in the story is illogical. It would be illogical if Adam killed God as in the infantile ancient story u direct people to go read

It's like saying that CanadaOrBust gave birth to a child and told the child, "don't you dare eat that fruit!" Then CanadaOrBust's child ate the fruit. And that was the first time he disobeyed you, but you cursed him and sent him out of the house. And because of that, his children and descendants are in danger of being put in a fire forever and ever. How does that sound to you. If you cannot disown your child or send your child away from home forever for disobeying you three times, then it means you are more reasonable than your god and you need to do away with your god who seems to lack commonsense.

OtemAtum:


The CREATOR is not a humanlike being like Jehovah or Allah. The creator is the totality of existence. We humans are like the voice of God, but it's a great pity that from the origin of the world till date, we humans are being used by one god or the other to proclaim them as God Almighty, rather than recalling what God Almighty is exactly.
For example, some beings such as Enlil, Enki, Anu chose humans to call them God Almighty long ago. Later some other beings like El, Jehovah and Allah chose some people to regard them as God Almighty when they are just mere creatures of God Almighty. That's why we have thousands of stories about the supposed God Almighty all because they were picked by one being or the other to selfishly declare them as God Almighty rather than declaring exactly what God Almighty is.
God Almighty is actually the Totality of Existence and it is not a humanlike being. Now God Almighty doesn't even care about we humans knowing what it is or what it is not. It's Atum one of the brothers of Jehovah and Allah who cares so much for the world to know the truth once and for all, hence sending me to declare it. Atum, Olorun, Vishnu, Ra and many counterparts of Jehovah wanted this truth to be known by the world at this time so that the world will not continue to dwell in lies. Let me even tell you something, our current homo sapiens world has even existed for 282,019 years and it will still exist for more than a million years. So if the true beings want the truth of the UNIVERSE to come at this time, being the 282,019th year of the homo sapiens era, it is still a little fraction out of the more than 5 million years more years left for the homo sapiens to remain on this earth. It is not God Almighty that is occupied with me, it is Atum, the brother of Jehovah and many great beings of the past that are occupied with me. Left to God Almighty, it doesn't care whether human races( an insignificant fragment of existence) know the origin of the universes or not. But Atum, Olorun, Chukwu, Abassi, Nzame, Nyame, Ra, Vishnu, etc care to see humanities have a mind evolution and know the truth that none of them is God Almighty and to help us know how to channel our energies best.

Currently, Jehovah, Allah and thousands of beings who doesn't want this truth are caged spiritually and they shall remain caged for about 997 years more.
Peace.

So why don’t all those gods who want the true known come out to mankind and declare the truth to them in a way there’d be no doubt. Why rely on lowly u whose priciest possession is an NL moniker?

OtemAtum:
It's like saying that CanadaOrBust gave birth to a child and told the child, "don't you dare eat that fruit!" Then CanadaOrBust's child ate the fruit. And that was the first time he disobeyed you, but you cursed him and sent him out of the house. And because of that, his children and descendants are in danger of being put in a fire forever and ever. How does that sound to you. If you cannot disown your child or send your child away from home forever for disobeying you three times, then it means you are more reasonable than your god and you need to do away with your god who seems to lack commonsense.

God can do whatever he pleases, he does not have human sensibilities. What will be illogical is if his creation kills him then his wife creates another god to marry!!

CanadaOrBust:


God can do whatever he pleases, he does not have human sensibilities. What will be illogical is if his creation kills him then his wife creates another god to marry!!

So now the god you are serving can do what it pleases, but the god other people are serving cannot do whatever they please?

CanadaOrBust:


So why don’t all those gods who want the true known come out to mankind and declare the truth to them in a way there’d be no doubt. Why rely on lowly u whose priciest possession is an NL moniker?

The gods have laid down a set principle at the beginning of the homo sapiens era. They colluded together to allow different times, different periods for each of them to be regarded as God Almighty through the humans bringing them to limelight. Then they knew that at a period like this, Otem should finally arrive to make the whole truth known. Go and read the Book of Homosapiens I, II and III to see how at different periods of time, different gods have been declared as God Almighty. They reign for years in human mindsband then another god reign until I Otem would bring out the whole truth.

Canadaorbust, look at this chapter alone and see how many gods were worshipped as God Almighty in it. Check the emboldened


1. Jubal was a homo sapiens born in the 4,921st year of the homo sapiens era in a land not far from Yukon.
2. Now Jubal loved war so much that he said, the blood of humans is my bath water and their flesh is my toy. He killed all the priests of the gods worshipped in the land and became the ruler and a god to the people.
3. In the days of Jubal, some humans with different skin colour came into the land from time to time.
4. These had come through the water on logs of wood from different lands. When Jubal saw them, he hated them critically.
5. And he assembled the people of his land, saying, let these people be killed. So the immigrants were killed in large number.
6. So Jubal reigned until his death and the people of the land worshipped him as a god of war for many centuries after.
7. Esubambi was a homosapiens born in the 7,125th year of the homo sapiens era, in a land called Agbedu in the continent of Africa.
8. Esubambi had a large territory for hunting, which no one could go close to and survive.
9. For he and his priests killed any other hunter who came close to the territory. Now no one had entered the large territory and return alive.
10. So the name of the large forest was called Igbodudu and Esubambi was worshipped as the spirit of that forest.
11. When Esubambi had died and rotten in the forest, his priests continued to honour him, putting fear in the minds of the people of the land of Agbedu.
12. And the people made sacrifices to Esubambi after every ten darknesses. And he was worshipped for six centuries after his death.
13. Endukugga was a homo sapiens born in the 8,291st year of the homo sapiens era in a land called Kugga in Sumer.
14. Endukugga was very great in the act of oratory. He told the people firghtful stories and they dreamt of his stories when they slept.
15. In those days, he began to tell them that there was a terrible abode for the souls of the dead, so the people began to fear what he told them.
16. They imagined such abode and began to see themselves there in their sleep.
17. Then they came to him and asked for the redemption of their souls. So Endukugga made incantations and gave them words of confidence so that they would not see themselves in such terrible place anymore.
18. So those who recited the words of confidence of Endukugga before they slept did not have such frightful dreams anymore, but whenever they pondered upon such abode, they saw themselves there and they called upon the name of Endukugga in their dreams and they were taken out of the terrible state.
19. So Endukugga ruled their minds through fear all the days of his life. Then after his death, the people continued to see themselves in terrible states in their dreams whenever they pondered it, until Sagon came twenty centuries later and said to the people, the terrible abode of Endukugga is not real, but because you fear, you have built it in your mind and make it appear real for only yourself and not for the entire world.
20. Sagon was a homo sapiens born in the 10,324th year of the homo sapiens era in Akkad.
21. Now in the days of Sagon, the gods which the people worshipped were many in all the places around Akkad, Kugga, Idigna and Buranana.
22. When Sagon had examined the origins of all the gods which the people worshipped, he knew that they were all first human beings like himself before they became gods.
23. So Sagon went and took all the lands where the worship of different gods had already torn apart in disunity.
24. For it was easy for him to take them because they were not in unity with one another because of the differences in the gods which they worshipped.
25. And Sagon said, now I have been established and I am a god. Worship me alone.
26. So Sagon made many gods to be forgotten in his days. And they worshipped him because they did suppose him greater than all the former gods because he did not die after blaspheming them all.
27. And Sagon lived for a hundred and sixteen years before he died. But his worship continued for thirty centuries after his death.

CanadaOrBust also take a look at this: See the embolden. See how they worship humans like themselves and made them God Almighty in their minds.


Chapter Eleven
1. Zuma was a homo sapiens born in Aztec of Mexico in the 11,254th year of the homo sapiens era.
2. Now Zuma was a lover of snakes, for his father had taught him how to hunt for snakes.
3. He made open-ended pipes with clay and filled the interior with saps and honey to trap snakes.
4. Now when Zuma had trapped the snakes, he took them and kept them until they had children.
5. Then he domesticated the children of the snakes and trained them for many purposes.
6. Now when the people saw snakes moving around the body of Zuma without hurting him, they bowed down and worshipped him.
7. This they did for forty-nine years until his death when he was seventy-eight years old.
8. And the people worshipped him for twenty centuries after his death.
9. Khuffu was a homo sapiens born in Egypt in the 12,505th year of the homo sapiens era.
10. In his days, Egypt was of low population because many people moved away from it when the climate of the place began to change, bringing sicknesses upon the people.
11. Now Khuffu said to a few people, let us be strong and remain in the land of our fathers.
12. So Khuffu ruled the land and constructed a large structure with stones which were laid upon each other. These structure was completed after fifteen years.
13. Now the structure which Khuffu made began to attract people of bordering lands. Then the land of Egypt began to be populated again.
14. And they said of Khuffu, he is a god, because no man can build a structure which is as high as the skies.
15. So Khuffu was worshipped in Egypt even for forty centuries after his death.
16. Ruth was a homo sapiens born in a land called Muab in the 13,001st year of the homo sapiens era.
17. Now Ruth grinded leaves together and mixed it with clay and other colourful things. Then she made cosmetics for the face.
18. Then the women of Muab went after her to make them beautiful. And Ruth painted their faces and nails with the things which she had mixed together.
19. So the people of Muab loved Ruth and made her a goddess whom they worshipped, saying, she is the goddess of beauty, for she was very beautiful herself.
20. And Ruth was worshipped continually after her death, but when the land of Muab began to get dry because of the change in climate, the people of the land went away into other places until her memory was forgotten.

See this too:

Chapter Fourteen
1. Idado was a male homo sapiens born in the 35,203rd year of the homo sapiens era in a land in the west of Africa.
2. Now in those days, the wife of Idado had seven children at once in a land called Jogunomi. Then the people said, it is only a god that can have more than one child at a time.
3. So Idado was worshipped by the people as a god of children. So the barren people went to worship him and his wife named Omolewa and they prayed to him for children.
4. When Idado began to get older, he presented all his seven sons to be worshipped by the people. And they all put leaves and palm fronds on their bodies to cover them up.
5. And they became masquerades in the land, whom the people believed to be spirits.
6. Now these are the names of the seven children of Idado who became gods after him: Pelebi, Oju Anufó, Kagunko, Babalago, Adakeja, Ariyayo and Tayeshe.
7. All these were given birth to by Omolewa the wife of Idado. And Omolewa herself wore the costumes of a masquerade in those days.
8. Now the worship of Idado, his wife and his children lasted between ten to twelve centuries after their death.
9. Jandira was a female homo sapiens born in the 35,210th year of the homo sapiens era in a land now in Brazil.
10. In those days, some water bodies were forbidden for anyone to enter them because many people had died in them.
11. Jandira went into one of the forbidden water bodies and swam for long hours.
12. When the fearful people of the land found her swimming in the water, they bowed their heads and worshipped her.
13. Jandira discovered the salty taste of the sea and through her, the people began to boil the sea water in pots to obtain deposits of salts after the water had been heated to dryness.
14. Jandira also knew how to go into the depth of the sea to bring sea creatures and plants from beneath the sea.
15. So Jandira was worshipped whenever people wanted to go into any water body to swim.
16. So her worship continued for fifteen centuries after her death.
17. Nwaneka was a homo sapiens born in the 36,222nd year of the homo sapiens era in a place in the modern day Nigeria.
18. Nwaneka made numbers for her land in the language of her people, such that whatever was counted had a name attached to it.
19. She gathered seeds and made countings with them. Now all the numbers which she made had colours in her imagination.
20. Some numbers were red, some were purple and some were even yellow and green and even mixtures of different colours.
21. Nwaneka also gave names to days of the week and months of the year in her language. She made four days to be called a week.
22. Now each day was distinguished from one another by the differences in activities which they do.
23. For Nwaneka, she named each day in colours, since she had attached the days with the colours which she saw in her imagination.
24. Now the first day was called Akwukowo-ndu by Nwaneka because the first number was green colour in her imagination.
25. The second day was called Ufio by her because the second number in her imagination was a green colour.
26. The third day was named Edo because it was a yellow colour while the fourth was named Oji, because it was a black colour.
27. So each time the day dawned, Nwaneka knew the name of the day by the colour which she saw in her imagination.
28. When Nwaneka taught some people how to also imagine and see colours for numbers, they began to worship her as a god.
29. Then the worship of Nwaneka lasted for eleven centuries after her death till the day when the names of the days of the week were changed.

OtemAtum:
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Once again you didn’t answer the question:

Why don’t this Atom and those other gods who want the truth known come out to mankind and declare the truth to them in a way there’d be no doubt. Is it that they are shy or what. Why rely on lowly u whose priciest possession is an NL moniker?

Canadaorbust, I can go on and on to show you how humans are deified. But lemme conclude with how Yahweh aka Jehovah your god was deified in his last reincarnation to the world:

B.C.E 16:34- 37
34. Now the rulership of mosheh(Yahweh) was harsh. He manifested all the attributes of Yahweh whom he really was, for he killed many people who worked on the last day of the week, saying, it is evil against Yahweh. He killed also the worshipper of Sin, Baalim and Moloch in multitude, saying that they were abominable people.He also killed the blind, lame, hunch backed and all forms of disabled people, because he hated them from within.
35. He killed those who refused circumcision also and he ordered war against those who worship Asherah, the one whom they called the queen of heaven. He tried hard to replace the name ‘El’ with ‘Yahweh’ in many texts of the tablets and papyri, but he could not, for many were already attached to the name ‘El’ as ‘God Almighty’.
36. Now mosheh(Yahweh) fell sick, so he went far from his land, saying, I shall not die where I shall be seen. So he cast himself in the red sea and died there, placing a tablet over his chest so that he could sink in the river. And on the tablet was written: I am YHWH, the God Almighty. 37. Then a man named Oshea found the corpse of mosheh (Yahweh) floating upon the river, because the tablet had rolled over and had sunken. And whene Oshea checked the body of the dead, he found also on it: I am Yahweh, the God Almighty.

CanadaOrBust:
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Once again you didn’t answer the question:

Why don’t this Atom and those other gods who want the truth known come out to mankind and declare the truth to them in a way there’d be no doubt. Is it that they are shy or what. Why rely on lowly u whose priciest possession is an NL moniker?

I answered your question previously. This earth is more like a game to the gods, the beings out there. They have formulated a principle never to come physically to this world, but to send representatives to make them known as God Almighty at different times. Then finally I Otem have to come to end the game and make it known to all the secrets of the earth. It's that simple, friend. But some gods who are currently being worshipped as God Almighty do not want me to propagate this truth and they don't want me to end this game. They are the gods of religion. They were fighting but currently the are all caged in a spiritual cage until the total destruction of religious philosophies.
Some of these beings who doesn't want this game to end are Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Eshu and thousands of other beings.

Read the Book of Otem Erectus 226: 7-30


7. You are greater than all gods in intelligence and knowledge. Now have we chosen you O otem, go and set Aferk free. Now Mother Earthus came also with Aluna and Ishtar and thousands of goddesses, both of Aferk and of the whole earth. and they said, blessed is otem, the god of all histories of humanity.
8. The gods hear his name and tremble. The people who torment others in the name of witches and wizards hear his name and flee. Yahweh, Allah, Moloch, Gaol, Eshu and all gods of bad religion and mind slavery hear his name and bow.
9. otem, fakir Atomos, go and quickly set Aferk free from gullibility before they are turned into animals in their minds. Go and free them from the hostages of Jehoshua, Yiga, Shamshin, Krisht, Bonkee, Wilhem and all manner of gods who make them slaves and deceive them on the face of the earth.
10. Who shall study the histories of otem and fear death? Whose mind shall be so strong to read the truth and still have joy reading the lies in the books of religion? Even Vishnu have said, let the truth of the words of otem prevail.
11. otem, the adopted son of all gods and goddesses of the earth, stay here until we have fought and won all the gods in a psychospiritual battle. You shall see how we shall defeat them.
12. Now otem stood and watched how the gods went farther away from him. and as they went farther, it seemed to him as if they were still standing before him, for distance was made into an illusion as if it no more existed. and it was as if a screen was showing the thing to otem.
13. and otem saw how all gods of religion gather and say, we shall not let humanity and dwellers of the earth have rest of mind. and Allah said, I cannot let go my impact upon the earth.
14. Now many homos who died religious had been made the same with the gods. and they had almost equal powers with the gods. and they said also, the religion which we practise on earth must not be defeated.
15. Now Yahweh said, what shall my great name become in the mouths of the people of the earth if i agree that religion should be made of none effect in their minds? Shall they not curse my name forever?
16. and Eubius said, what shall happen to the history of Krishtanite which I have written? I shall rather protect it, or else I shall be found the greatest liar in history. and Mirza and Moloch and Eshu and many other gods said, the fun of the earth shall be lost when they do not call upon our names anymore.
17. and their continual weeping to the gods, being fun to us, shall be a thing of the past. No, we shall not allow this. Now while they spoke, the gods who wanted science and development in the world came and said, are you ready for the battle? and they said, we are ready.
18. and the battle began.
19. and otem heard voices and saw many gods how they did all manner of inexplicable things. and there were vacuums, but only otem and the gods of findings saw the vacuums.
20. and when the gods of religion had entered into the vacuums, they were not seen anymore.
21. and otem awoke. and his pupils had broken the door of his house when he did not appear in the school that day. and they had done many things to revive him.
22. and otem said, I saw all the things which you do to my body to rescue me. Why do you sit on my chest and blew my nose? Why do you disturb my sweet sleep? For the words which are made flesh are currently being conquered.
23. and henceforth, all sacred texts shall be seen as the things useful for refuse dump. and they shall lose the powers behind them, because all gods who insist on continual deception of the world through their threatening and motivational books are currently being held captive in vacuums.
24. Now for a space of three months, otem continually saw how the gods stepped into vacuums and were not seen anymore.
25. Now when eighty-nine days was complete, the gods of findings began to carry the vacuums in their hands, dumping them into a larger vacuum. For the vacuums began to become visible when they had carried them. and they dumped more than two hundred and fifty nine thousand vacuums into a larger one.
26. and they said, otem of truth, we have overcome the gods by vacuums, so go and make known all the things which you have seen. For we imagined the vacuums with our thoughts for the capture of the gods who are antihumans.
27. and in the vacuums shall they be for a thousand years. This is the spiritual cage of all gods who oppose development. and focus shall be shifted from the words in the books to the thoughts of the heads.
28. and a period shall come when the pastors and the priests of many religions shall begin to misbehave. For their gods are encaged. and the minds of many homos shall begin to go after the truth within themselves rather than the lies written in the books of lies.
29. Now otem, we have done our own part, therefore go and do your part also. Be not lazy in the compilation and interpretation of the texts of histories which we have given to you.
30. and we shall breathe life into the history which you shall write and it shall live on in the minds of the people, rather than religious texts. and humanity shall begin to use their own brains, worshipping no god while they do good to themselves.

OtemAtum
Answer my question and while u r at it see the definition of homosapien below and note they were scattered all over and never at any time worshipped one god as your fairy tale suggests

CanadaOrBust:

OtemAtum
Answer my question and while u r at it see the definition of homosapien below and note they were scattered all over and never at any time worshipped one god as your fairy tale suggests

I didn't say that they worshipped one god, did I say so? I only said that they worshipped and see a particular god as God Almighty for a period of time. Then came another one to abolish the rule of the former one. There has never been a time that the whole world worship a single god. Even presently, the gods worshipped by the world are Jehovah, Allah, Vishnu, conc. traditionalists worship Olorun Olodumare, Chukwu, Ojo, etc. But liars have been looking for a way to deceive the while world that Allah, Jehovah, Vishnu, Brahma, Ahura Mazda, Chukwu, etc whom the world worship are the same being.
As for the questions about why the gods don't come physically to our world here, I have answered you more than once. Thanks.

OtemAtum
Just as I suspected your totally fictitious gods are too shy to appear personally, rather they send u to post fiction on NL. I wonder who u think u fooling

CanadaOrBust:
OtemAtum
Just as I suspected your totally fictitious gods are too shy to appear personally, rather they send u to post fiction on NL. I wonder who u think u fooling

Pls don't insult. I haven't insulted you na I am sent to the world to deliver people like you out of the mind slavery the colonial masters put your minds into, so take it easy with me eh.

In other word, CanadaOrBust, you are not godly at all. If you are godly, you will always want to behave like Jehovah your god who sent his beings away from home for disobeying him for the first time in their lives. I know that your friends have offended you more than ten times, but you forgave them and you kept your friendship. You didn't behave foolishly like Jehovah who sent his beings away for disobeying him for the very first time. So this makes you not godly at all. If you are godly, you would have sent your friends or kids away for disobeying youbfor the first time, just as Jehovah did. You would have also cursed them and throw them in a fire burning forever. This reminds me of what happened in a particular Igala history of milllions of years back. I will get back to you on that

CanadaOrBust, here is an account of Omokwo who tried to do what Jehovah did to his children. He ended up concluding that Jehovah must be foolish if he actually created hell fire and abandoned human souls there to be burnt forever. Read below.

1. Now I Omokwo have five children. And the names of my children were Ajanigo, Alolo, Ufedo, Ariga and Ebo.
2. Now before my face, four of my five children changed to the religion of the foreigners. For when they went to the school of the foreigners to learn, they were taught their religion, saying, after death shall be heaven and fire only.
3. And those who believe in Zeusus shall go to heaven while they who do not believe in him shall go to the fire to be there forever. Now I called my children and said to them, where do you think that your distant great grandfather Mona shall be now as we speak?
4. And they said, he shall be in the fire because he did not know Zeusus in his days.
5. And I said, why should he go to the fire because he did not know Zeusus? Does he have any fault for not knowing Zeusus? For in his days, Issa was he whom they told him about. And they did not even say that Issa died for the world. But he did not believe all their stories because there are greater stories here also which we pass from mouth to mouth to our children and grandchildren.
6. Now Alolo said to me, father, we do not wish that our ancestors should go to the fire, but the reality is that they shall be there forever. And Omokwo said, you children are making me laugh. For it is as if you are drunken with otepe.
7. Now Ariga said, it is not an excuse that they do not believe in God while they were alive. And they shall by now be wailing in the fire. For they shall not be forgiven, no matter how they now plead for mercy. For there is no mercy in the fire of God.
8. Now Ufedo, being the last child of the family, who did not know much of the things which they spoke, was called apart by me. And I said to him, you are the youngest of my children, but I have made you greater than your four elder brothers.
9. And you alone have I accepted as my only child. And you are my first and last born. And all the things which I have are yours. And only through you should anyone come to me. Now have the key to my room.
10. Now Ufedo was very glad. And when his brothers sought after their father for food, he said to them, you are not worthy to be seen in my presence. Go and see Ufedo your little brother and accept him as your Lord and master. And if you do not accept him as such, you shall see my wrath.
11. For I have put in his charge all powers of this house. And through him alone can you be reconciled with me.
12. Now when the children of Omokwo went to Ufedo that he should give them the key to the storehouse so that they might take food and other things which belonged to the father, he said to them, call me Lord.
13. And they took him and beat him up in anger.
14. Now when Omokwo heard how they had maltreated his only acceptable son, he went after them and caught them. And he beat them with the rod and locked them up, saying, you shall be in that room forever. And I shall neither give you food or water.
15. Now the children of Omokwo thought that it was only a joke. And they cried out for help for three days, for they were very hungry. And Ufedo entered into the locked room after three days. And they said, now we have accepted you as the firstborn and even the only son of our father.
16. Now give us food and water to drink.
17. And Ufedo said, it is too late to do so. For the time when this was possible has long past. And there is no forgiveness for you.
18. Now at that time, Adeiza the grandson of Omini came from Okerune to see Omokwo. And he said, Omokwo the great one, I have come to do to you what Mona your ancestor did to Agidi my own ancestor. For in those days, Mona came even on foot to see Agidi my ancestor.
19. Now I have deemed it fit to come to see you in this place and share with you some experiences which are disturbing my minds. For even now, I have lost hope of the coming of anything or any god called Otem.
20. For rather than a saviour of our land from the religions of the foreigners, what we have is the massive conversion of our children to those foreign religions while they burn our own objects of meditation, calling them the objects of the devil.
21. Now I think there is no hope anymore. For even as I speak, my children have become Ishlamites. And they touched the ground with their foreheads to worship that which they call Alla.
22. Now I Omokwo said, I know that you Adeiza are an influential homo in Okerune and around. And you have much fame. And if you say that there is no hope, who am I to say that there is?
23. For even my own children are now Krishtenis and they see me as a demon and a devil now. And they say that my ancestors their ancestors are burning now in the fire. And they say that if I do not believe the story of that Zeusus who died in the land where I did not know about, then I shall be cast into fire when I die.
24. Now Adeiza said, let them come here so that I may talk to them so that they might change. For it is for the purpose of taking you to Okerune to talk with my own children have I also come.
25. Now let our hands help one another.
26. Now I said to Adeiza, I cannot bring those children to you here, for they are locked up in the room as a punishment for their wickedness. And they shall remain in that place forever.
27. When Adeiza could not persuade me to release them, I said to him, follow me. And he followed me to the place where my children lay. And Ufedo followed us also. And when we were in the place, we coughed greatly because of the ground pepper I had sprinkled there.
28. And Adeiza said, for how many days have you kept them here without feeding them? And I said, for three days. And Adeiza said, you are the most wicked being I have ever seen.
29. For what offence could have been so great committed against you to warrant starvation of your our creatures which you gave life to?
30. Now while Adeiza spoke, they groaned in pain and said, let us accept Ufedo as our lord now. Let him be everything and anything you have made him to be, but take us out of this hot room and feed us. For you are our father.
31. And I said, no, for it is not my principle to let you out forever. And Adeiza said to me, you are mad, Omokwo. Shall we chase a bad child to the tiger to prey upon?
32. Now set them free or else I shall set them free myself and go apart from you forever.
33. Now when Adeiza said this, I wept. And my children wondered why I wept. And I said, it is only the third day, but I cannot withstand the suffering I put my children to anymore.
34. How then shall there be a god who shall cast his homo in the fire forever without feeding them or forgiving them. Behold I say, such god should be given a chieftancy title in the kingdom of the monsters. For it is not possible for a father to subject his children to starvation and confinement for petty things done, let alone leaving them in a fire forever.
35. Therefore Ajanigo, Alolo, Ebo and Ariga, go and think about that idea of a fire burning your ancestors forever and relate it with the experience you have had here today.
36. For I tell you the truth, whoever makes an afterlife of fire for humanity is a devil and his rivals and superiors who are better than him shall not allow such kind of fire to remain burning. For even as Adeiza forced me to end this punishment, so shall the higher beings who are wise stop whoever that being is who made an eternal fire as a place to be after death.
37. For foolishness is the portion of Yahweh if indeed he ever nursed such kind of afterlife in his mind, let alone making it real. Therefore my children, forgive me for subjecting you through these three days of fasting and heat. For this I do to save you and your future from becoming useless to yourself by wasting your time worshipping a god who is a terrorist.

I believe the difference is on the context.
We use Lord(which means "the one who ones me" to refer to God when no reference is made to the Son Jesus Christ. God is our Lord because He owns us all. Then Jesus is Lord because, as God the father owns us, same is as Jesus the So owns us. Now, without reference to God himself, u refer Jesus Christ as ur Lord.
Logic: When a man (say Dangote) is referred as CEO for Dangote Group and he elevates his son to CEO of the group, one thing becomes sure.
U see the son, u call him THE CEO, and u see Dangote, u also call him the CEO.
Now back to the statement
"Dangote, the father of our CEO Sunday, is coming.

So is based on whom u want to refer to.
Jesus is exalted to be our Lord and God can't sees to be Our Lord forever

Snowale:
Your brain might be full of knowledge, but the devil have hidden the truth away from you.

The devil has no truth in him. He has been a liar from the foundation of the earth

OtemAtum:
CanadaOrBust, here is an account of Omokwo who tried to do what Jehovah did to his children. He ended up concluding that Jehovah must be foolish if he actually created hell fire and abandoned human souls there to be burnt forever. Read below.

1. Now I Omokwo have five children. And the names of my children were Ajanigo, Alolo, Ufedo, Ariga and Ebo.
2. Now before my face, four of my five children changed to the religion of the foreigners. For when they went to the school of the foreigners to learn, they were taught their religion, saying, after death shall be heaven and fire only.
3. And those who believe in Zeusus shall go to heaven while they who do not believe in him shall go to the fire to be there forever. Now I called my children and said to them, where do you think that your distant great grandfather Mona shall be now as we speak?
4. And they said, he shall be in the fire because he did not know Zeusus in his days.
5. And I said, why should he go to the fire because he did not know Zeusus? Does he have any fault for not knowing Zeusus? For in his days, Issa was he whom they told him about. And they did not even say that Issa died for the world. But he did not believe all their stories because there are greater stories here also which we pass from mouth to mouth to our children and grandchildren.
6. Now Alolo said to me, father, we do not wish that our ancestors should go to the fire, but the reality is that they shall be there forever. And Omokwo said, you children are making me laugh. For it is as if you are drunken with otepe.
7. Now Ariga said, it is not an excuse that they do not believe in God while they were alive. And they shall by now be wailing in the fire. For they shall not be forgiven, no matter how they now plead for mercy. For there is no mercy in the fire of God.
8. Now Ufedo, being the last child of the family, who did not know much of the things which they spoke, was called apart by me. And I said to him, you are the youngest of my children, but I have made you greater than your four elder brothers.
9. And you alone have I accepted as my only child. And you are my first and last born. And all the things which I have are yours. And only through you should anyone come to me. Now have the key to my room.
10. Now Ufedo was very glad. And when his brothers sought after their father for food, he said to them, you are not worthy to be seen in my presence. Go and see Ufedo your little brother and accept him as your Lord and master. And if you do not accept him as such, you shall see my wrath.
11. For I have put in his charge all powers of this house. And through him alone can you be reconciled with me.
12. Now when the children of Omokwo went to Ufedo that he should give them the key to the storehouse so that they might take food and other things which belonged to the father, he said to them, call me Lord.
13. And they took him and beat him up in anger.
14. Now when Omokwo heard how they had maltreated his only acceptable son, he went after them and caught them. And he beat them with the rod and locked them up, saying, you shall be in that room forever. And I shall neither give you food or water.
15. Now the children of Omokwo thought that it was only a joke. And they cried out for help for three days, for they were very hungry. And Ufedo entered into the locked room after three days. And they said, now we have accepted you as the firstborn and even the only son of our father.
16. Now give us food and water to drink.
17. And Ufedo said, it is too late to do so. For the time when this was possible has long past. And there is no forgiveness for you.
18. Now at that time, Adeiza the grandson of Omini came from Okerune to see Omokwo. And he said, Omokwo the great one, I have come to do to you what Mona your ancestor did to Agidi my own ancestor. For in those days, Mona came even on foot to see Agidi my ancestor.
19. Now I have deemed it fit to come to see you in this place and share with you some experiences which are disturbing my minds. For even now, I have lost hope of the coming of anything or any god called Otem.
20. For rather than a saviour of our land from the religions of the foreigners, what we have is the massive conversion of our children to those foreign religions while they burn our own objects of meditation, calling them the objects of the devil.
21. Now I think there is no hope anymore. For even as I speak, my children have become Ishlamites. And they touched the ground with their foreheads to worship that which they call Alla.
22. Now I Omokwo said, I know that you Adeiza are an influential homo in Okerune and around. And you have much fame. And if you say that there is no hope, who am I to say that there is?
23. For even my own children are now Krishtenis and they see me as a demon and a devil now. And they say that my ancestors their ancestors are burning now in the fire. And they say that if I do not believe the story of that Zeusus who died in the land where I did not know about, then I shall be cast into fire when I die.
24. Now Adeiza said, let them come here so that I may talk to them so that they might change. For it is for the purpose of taking you to Okerune to talk with my own children have I also come.
25. Now let our hands help one another.
26. Now I said to Adeiza, I cannot bring those children to you here, for they are locked up in the room as a punishment for their wickedness. And they shall remain in that place forever.
27. When Adeiza could not persuade me to release them, I said to him, follow me. And he followed me to the place where my children lay. And Ufedo followed us also. And when we were in the place, we coughed greatly because of the ground pepper I had sprinkled there.
28. And Adeiza said, for how many days have you kept them here without feeding them? And I said, for three days. And Adeiza said, you are the most wicked being I have ever seen.
29. For what offence could have been so great committed against you to warrant starvation of your our creatures which you gave life to?
30. Now while Adeiza spoke, they groaned in pain and said, let us accept Ufedo as our lord now. Let him be everything and anything you have made him to be, but take us out of this hot room and feed us. For you are our father.
31. And I said, no, for it is not my principle to let you out forever. And Adeiza said to me, you are mad, Omokwo. Shall we chase a bad child to the tiger to prey upon?
32. Now set them free or else I shall set them free myself and go apart from you forever.
33. Now when Adeiza said this, I wept. And my children wondered why I wept. And I said, it is only the third day, but I cannot withstand the suffering I put my children to anymore.
34. How then shall there be a god who shall cast his homo in the fire forever without feeding them or forgiving them. Behold I say, such god should be given a chieftancy title in the kingdom of the monsters. For it is not possible for a father to subject his children to starvation and confinement for petty things done, let alone leaving them in a fire forever.
35. Therefore Ajanigo, Alolo, Ebo and Ariga, go and think about that idea of a fire burning your ancestors forever and relate it with the experience you have had here today.
36. For I tell you the truth, whoever makes an afterlife of fire for humanity is a devil and his rivals and superiors who are better than him shall not allow such kind of fire to remain burning. For even as Adeiza forced me to end this punishment, so shall the higher beings who are wise stop whoever that being is who made an eternal fire as a place to be after death.
37. For foolishness is the portion of Yahweh if indeed he ever nursed such kind of afterlife in his mind, let alone making it real. Therefore my children, forgive me for subjecting you through these three days of fasting and heat. For this I do to save you and your future from becoming useless to yourself by wasting your time worshipping a god who is a terrorist.

All these copy and paste, I guess you are copying from the books of Black Panthers, Lord of the Rings and some esoteric religious books which add nothing to you but confuse you the more. Some part of it are from "The Final Conquest" I recently found out that your book of "The History of the Universe" was authored by man who was was dubbed "chief liar"....

Some people just don't want to wake up from their slumber.. Well I have tried.. Well everybody in their time..

Maybe not in this life.. Maybe next.. Or the one after.. But everyone must wake up..

sonmvayina:
Some people just don't want to wake up from their slumber.. Well I have tried.. Well everybody in their time..

Maybe not in this life.. Maybe next.. Or the one after.. But everyone must wake up..

But some of us are the ones awake, not u. It is like two people who have constant pain, they are given something that could be placebo that take away the pain (I say “could be” because they have no way of being sure). One realizes it could be placebo but also recognizes that it keeps him pain free. The other one also realizes it could be placebo, rejects it and goes back to being in severe pain. I ask u, who is more awake?

OtemAtum :

U posted the below, yet the same YHWH u say is dead is trapped in spiritual jail, and you’ve been discussing him as being alive - he is both alive and dead!!


36. Now mosheh(Yahweh) fell sick, so he went far from his land, saying, I shall not die where I shall be seen. So he cast himself in the red sea and died there, placing a tablet over his chest so that he could sink in the river. And on the tablet was written: I am YHWH, the God Almighty. 37. Then a man named Oshea found the corpse of mosheh (Yahweh) floating upon the river, because the tablet had rolled over and had sunken. And whene Oshea checked the body of the dead, he found also on it: I am Yahweh, the God Almighty.

Bible and Buhari regime are like 5 and 6, Full of corruption

the holy book of God that has more than 100 versions

CanadaOrBust:
OtemAtum :

U posted the below, yet the same YHWH u say is dead is trapped in spiritual jail, and you’ve been discussing him as being alive - he is both alive and dead!!


36. Now mosheh(Yahweh) fell sick, so he went far from his land, saying, I shall not die where I shall be seen. So he cast himself in the red sea and died there, placing a tablet over his chest so that he could sink in the river. And on the tablet was written: I am YHWH, the God Almighty. 37. Then a man named Oshea found the corpse of mosheh (Yahweh) floating upon the river, because the tablet had rolled over and had sunken. And whene Oshea checked the body of the dead, he found also on it: I am Yahweh, the God Almighty.

What you see here is what happened when Yahweh was living on the planet earth thousands of years back. When he died, he went into the spiritual realm, same as everyone who dies does. Death on earth means life in another realm. But currently, Yahweh is being made unconscious, being held in a spiritual cage by his godmates.

OtemAtum:


What you see here is what happened when Yahweh was living on the planet earth thousands of years back. When he died, he went into the spiritual realm, same as everyone who dies does. Death on earth means life in another realm. But currently, Yahweh is being made unconscious, being held in a spiritual cage by his godmates.

See how u just outed yourself:
You said YHWH WAS HERE PHYSICALLY!!

Compare that to what u said here:

This earth is more like a game to the gods, the beings out there. They have formulated a principle never to come physically to this world, but to send representatives to make them known as God Almighty at different times. Then finally I Otem have to come to end the game and make it known to all the secrets of the earth.

Hehehe. Let me see how u get out of this one

Salim27:


Please stop manipulating the word of Allah
Check what is written is different from what you are saying.

Qur'an [68:42]
The Day that the shin shall be laid bare, and they shall be summoned to bow in adoration, but they shall not be able,-


Qur'an (5:64)

The Jews say: "Allah's hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief.

Qur'an (52:48)
Now await in patience the command of thy Lord: for verily thou art in Our eyes: and celebrate the praises of thy Lord the while thou standest forth,

Qur'an(19:20)
Qalat anna yakoonu lee ghulamun walam yamsasnee basharun walam aku baghiyyan

She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"

Qur'an(48:2)

That Allah may forgive thee thy faults of the past and those to follow; fulfil His favour to thee; and guide thee on the Straight Way;

Unintelligent and unbrieliant response!!

You only repeated all I said.

Your prophet was asked if he knows any sign which Allah can be recognised,

He said, His "SHIN",
And so Allah will uncover His SHIN, whereupon every Muslims will prostrate in worship.

Sahih al-bukhari 7439
Book 97, Hadith 65
Vol. 9 Book 93 Hadith 532.

Then, he went on to say in the same Hadith that: the Almighty will come to them (Muslims) in a shape other than they saw first time and Allah will say, i am your Lord,

But unfortunately, the Muslims rejected Allah because of his new shape.

Other Hadith said, Allah had to go and rechanged his shape before the Muslims accepted him.

Is like Muslims choose the shape they want their god to appear...

But to us, Christians, the Almighty God came in a form of a man, Jesus Christ, that of the Muslims comes in a shape of a SHIN!

Wonderful!!!

CanadaOrBust:


See how u just outed yourself:
You said YHWH WAS HERE PHYSICALLY!!

Compare that to what u said here:

This earth is more like a game to the gods, the beings out there. They have formulated a principle never to come physically to this world, but to send representatives to make them known as God Almighty at different times. Then finally I Otem have to come to end the game and make it known to all the secrets of the earth.

Hehehe. Let me see how u get out of this one

The gods can't come in god (superhuman) forms to the earth in the homo sapiens era, they have to come in forms of humans if any of them wants to come at all. Why do you think that I god Otem, am here in form of human today? Everything is in the Book of Universal History. It's better for you to read all up there. See the quotation below.

Eartum 42: 15- 17

15. And as for the gods or goddesses who do not want to be reincarnated into the planets of the outer universes, it shall take ages for such god to be able to locate any planet where he had once ruled over.
16. But if such one is willing to be present in such planet without any much stress, he or she shall pass through the realm of forgetfulness and be born as a homo(human) into that planet. And he shall be subject to every physical ordinance in that planet like every other homo(human) in it.
17. But I tell you the truth, in one way or the other, a reincarnated soul shall have edge over those who are being made into any of these planets for the first time. And these are they who shall make use of the words mostly, thereby bringing back the names of you gods to the planets.

OtemAtum:
The gods can't come in god (superhuman) forms to the earth in the homo sapiens era, they have to come in forms of humans if any of them wants to come at all. Why do you think that I god Otem, am here in form of human today? Everything is in the Book of Universal History. It's better for you to read all up there. See the quotation below.

Eartum 42: 15- 17

15. And as for the gods or goddesses who do not want to be reincarnated into the planets of the outer universes, it shall take ages for such god to be able to locate any planet where he had once ruled over.
16. But if such one is willing to be present in such planet without any much stress, he or she shall pass through the realm of forgetfulness and be born as a homo(human) into that planet. And he shall be subject to every physical ordinance in that planet like every other homo(human) in it.
17. But I tell you the truth, in one way or the other, a reincarnated soul shall have edge over those who are being made into any of these planets for the first time. And these are they who shall make use of the words mostly, thereby bringing back the names of you gods to the planets.

Hahahaha! Ok, I get it, this is comedy. Sorry, I know it’s fiction but I mistakenly thought u were trying to pretend it is real.

Ok, so YHWH who can’t physically come to earth, still came to earth physically, then died physically. After living how many thousand years again, dear teacher?
At least u have a sense of humor

CanadaOrBust:


Hahahaha! Ok, I get it, this is comedy. Sorry, I know it’s fiction but I mistakenly thought u were trying to pretend it is real.

Ok, so YHWH who can’t physically come to earth, still came to earth physically, then died physically. After living how many thousand years again, dear teacher?
At least u have a sense of humor

Let me try to break it down to you in little chunks like a baby so that you can understand. Yahweh at creation is as tall as 4 storey building. He cannot come to the earth in that form anymore. But he can come to the earth as a human. That's exactly what I'm talking about. I will show you the stature of Yahweh when he was on earth in his god form billions of years back. That former physical appearance of Yahweh is what he cannot come with anymore, but to come as a human to the earth, he can always do that.

Adspiramen 5: 14, 15

14. The creatures which resulted from the great bang were two millions in number, but only few of them were Homos(humanlike beings).

15. The Homos(beings) were very gigantic in stature. They were all males like us, except for Earthus.


So from the embolden, it's obvious that I'm talking about this former physical appearance they have and not their physical human appearance at reincarnation. Just read up the book, you will understand everything I'm saying very well.