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Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by achorladey: 9:45pm On Nov 30, 2019
Maximus69:


My friend James was talking to the overseers in the congregation, every Christian MUST PREACH AND TEACH according to Jesus! Matthew 28:1-20

That's why i said if our assimilation doesn't coincide, then you and i aren't worshiping the same God! wink

Do you PREACH and TEACH like YOUR OVERSEERS? Is that account meant for you?

It same of same.......SENSES OF ASSIMILATION COULD BE MEASURED FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW!

Regarding the same GOD or NOT its still same SENSES OF ASSIMILATION COULD BE MEASURED FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW!
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 9:48pm On Nov 30, 2019
achorladey:



Hahahahaha be it DECEMBER 2020 or 2050...........it still does not change this ........SENSES OF ASSIMILATION COULD BE MEASURED FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW!

That's the HERITAGE of God's people!

PROGRESSIVE understanding of God's word until after the end of Christ's 1000 years!

If you don't agree, please it's not by force.

Go worship your own God while i worship mine,

YOU AND I AREN'T WORSHIPING THE SAME GOD! wink
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 9:50pm On Nov 30, 2019
achorladey:


Do you PREACH and TEACH like YOUR OVERSEERS? Is that account meant for you?

It same of same.......SENSES OF ASSIMILATION COULD BE MEASURED FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW!

Regarding the same GOD or NOT its still same SENSES OF ASSIMILATION COULD BE MEASURED FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW!



Regarding that all the 8,500,000 JWs globally will tell you "if you're not a JW, you can't be a worshiper of our God!"
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by achorladey: 9:52pm On Nov 30, 2019
Maximus69:


That's the HERITAGE of God's people!

PROGRESSIVE understanding of God's word until after the end of Christ's 1000 years!

If you don't agree, please it's not by force.

Go worship your own God while i worship mine,

YOU AND I AREN'T WORSHIPING THE SAME GOD! wink

Same of same........SENSES OF ASSIMILATION COULD BE MEASURED FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW!

Now a palaver for you to SORT. I am not HOLDING you back not to DO what you intend DOING.
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by achorladey: 9:55pm On Nov 30, 2019
Maximus69:


Regarding that all the 8,500,000 JWs globally will tell you "if you're not a JW, you can't be a worshiper of our God!"

Their PALAVER to SORT not mine. It boils down to........SENSES OF ASSIMILATION COULD BE MEASURED FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW!
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by achorladey: 10:01pm On Nov 30, 2019
Maximus69:


My friend James was talking to the overseers in the congregation, every Christian MUST PREACH AND TEACH according to Jesus! Matthew 28:1-20

That's why i said if our assimilation doesn't coincide, then you and i aren't worshiping the same God! wink

One can't HELP but notice YOUR different SENSES of ASSIMILATION all in ONE SWOOP,

First James was talking to THE OVERSEERS, then another change to EVERY CHRISTIAN TEACH and PREACH. HAHAHAHAHA

Its all.

SENSES OF ASSIMILATION COULD BE MEASURED FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW!
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 5:44pm On Dec 01, 2019
achorladey:

One can't HELP but notice YOUR different SENSES of ASSIMILATION all in ONE SWOOP,
First James was talking to THE OVERSEERS, then another change to EVERY CHRISTIAN TEACH and PREACH. HAHAHAHAHA
Its all.
SENSES OF ASSIMILATION COULD BE MEASURED FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW!

It has always been like that from time immemorial!
People don't assimilate issue from the same point of view.
But in each generation, only those whose point of view coincides are worshippers of the Bible God. All others do assume that they're also worshiping that same God even when it's obvious there is serious contradictions in their midst.
True worshippers always separate themselves from such hypocrites just as Jehovah's Witnesses stands out today! wink
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Hairyrapunzel: 6:18pm On Dec 01, 2019
Maximus69:


It has always been like that from time immemorial!
People don't assimilate issue from the same point of view.
But in each generation, only those whose point of view coincides are worshippers of the Bible God. All others do assume that they're also worshiping that same God even when it's obvious there is serious contradictions in their midst.
True worshippers always separate themselves from such hypocrites just as Jehovah's Witnesses stands out today! wink
You know you are true worshippers because you say so. Last last na cycle of stupidity. You will wait for armageddon so your imaginary sky daddy will come commit the greatest genocide ever known but you won't see anything. The only place it will happen is inside your head/imagination and watchtower magazine.

Na cycle

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Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 9:12am On Dec 02, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:

You know you are true worshippers because you say so. Last last na cycle of stupidity. You will wait for armageddon so your imaginary sky daddy will come commit the greatest genocide ever known but you won't see anything. The only place it will happen is inside your head/imagination and watchtower magazine.

Na cycle

PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Hairyrapunzel: 12:49pm On Dec 02, 2019
Maximus69:


PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE! smiley

You will still die waiting for armageddon just like your founding fathers died waiting. Na cycle . Cycle of stupidity.
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 2:44pm On Dec 02, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


You will still die waiting for armageddon just like your founding fathers died waiting. Na cycle . Cycle of stupidity.
Hmmmmmmmmm,

Why not simply release yourself from this BITTERNESS? Genesis 4:6

It's destroying the joy in you, it's not compulsory everyone accept what Jehovah's Witnesses are saying and they're just easygoing preachers with their messages only meant for those who choose to listen to them!

Why not free yourself from this hurtful thoughts and go on with your life? you can't force people's beliefs out of their minds with all these spiteful curses of yours!

There is FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, SPEECH and WORSHIP as long as what each religionists believe stays IN THEIR HEADS as you always say!

You're the very one revealing how pitiful you've become over the years without Jehovah's Witnesses in your life.

So i'll pray for you Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE! Luke 6:28 smiley
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Hairyrapunzel: 2:49pm On Dec 02, 2019
Maximus69:

Hmmmmmmmmm,

Why not simply release yourself from this BITTERNESS? Genesis 4:6

It's destroying the joy in you, it's not compulsory everyone accept what Jehovah's Witnesses are saying and they're just easygoing preachers with their messages only meant for those who choose to listen to them!

Why not free yourself from this hurtful thoughts and go on with your life? you can't force people's beliefs out of their minds with all these spiteful curses of yours!

There is FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, SPEECH and WORSHIP as long as what each religionists believe stays IN THEIR HEADS as you always say!

You're the very one revealing how pitiful you've become over the years without Jehovah's Witnesses in your life.

So i'll pray for you Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE! smiley


Still you will still die waiting for armageddon just like your founding fathers died while waiting.
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 2:51pm On Dec 02, 2019
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What a pity!
Hairyrapunzel:



Still you will still die waiting for armageddon just like your founding fathers died while waiting.
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Hairyrapunzel: 2:56pm On Dec 02, 2019
Maximus69:
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What a pity!

It's a pity that you believe that your jehovah will come slaughter/destroy non jws because they chose not to join the publishing company called watchtower and obey 8 old men who rule the organisation as the only channel of communication between God and man today.


You go wait you go tire.
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 3:48pm On Dec 02, 2019
There are thousands of religious groups out there having different opinions regarding divine JUDGMENT of those who do not share their religious views.

So why worry this much about what Jehovah's Witnesses think?

Sorry oooooooo!
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Hairyrapunzel:


It's a pity that you believe that your jehovah will come slaughter/destroy non jws because they chose not to join the publishing company called watchtower and obey 8 old men who rule the organisation as the only channel of communication between God and man today.


You go wait you go tire.
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 4:10pm On Dec 02, 2019
Maximus69:
There are thousands of religious groups out there having different opinions regarding divine JUDGMENT of those who do not share their religious views.

So why worry this much about what Jehovah's Witnesses think?

Sorry oooooooo!
embarassed

The sadist is begging to die, but Jehovah will not kill him before his time. If he's pained to his anus about Jehovah's Witnesses activities, let him take the laws into his hands, that's when he will know that there is freedom of speech, expression and worship! undecided

Many of his type won't know the reason why they will never get to higher position in life. The hatred they have for God's people will continue to hinder their progress, No matter how hard he try JEHOVAH will never allow persons like Hairy to mount any position of authority because of his people!

Most of them thought high ranking politicians are stupid for allowing Jehovah's Witnesses to continue breathing, some thought those countries where our works were banned are the works of the politicians, unknowingly to them that it's the religionists who are critics of TRUTH that are fighting under~G.

Let him continue crying all day long after all he can't do anything to stop pure worship! cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 4:57pm On Dec 02, 2019
TATIME:


The sadist is begging to die, but Jehovah will not kill him before his time. If he's pained to his anus about Jehovah's Witnesses activities, let him take the laws into his hands, that's when he will know that there is freedom of speech, expression and worship! undecided

Many of his type won't know the reason why they will never get to higher position in life. The hatred they have for God's people will continue to hinder their progress, No matter how hard he try JEHOVAH will never allow persons like Hairy to mount any position of authority because of his people!

Most of them thought high ranking politicians are stupid for allowing Jehovah's Witnesses to continue breathing, some thought those countries where our works were banned are the works of the politicians, unknowingly to them that it's the religionists who are critics of TRUTH that are fighting under~G.

Let him continue crying all day long after all he can't do anything to stop pure worship! cheesy cheesy cheesy

Hmmmmmmmmm TRUE! undecided
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Hairyrapunzel: 7:20pm On Dec 02, 2019
Maximus69:
There are thousands of religious groups out there having different opinions regarding divine JUDGMENT of those who do not share their religious views.

So why worry this much about what Jehovah's Witnesses think?

Sorry oooooooo!
embarassed


Take heart and kpele. The truth is no jehovah is coming to destroy wicked/worldly people aka non jws
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Hairyrapunzel: 7:26pm On Dec 02, 2019
TATIME:


The sadist is begging to die, but Jehovah will not kill him before his time. If he's pained to his anus about Jehovah's Witnesses activities, let him take the laws into his hands, that's when he will know that there is freedom of speech, expression and worship! undecided

Many of his type won't know the reason why they will never get to higher position in life. The hatred they have for God's people will continue to hinder their progress, No matter how hard he try JEHOVAH will never allow persons like Hairy to mount any position of authority because of his people!

Most of them thought high ranking politicians are stupid for allowing Jehovah's Witnesses to continue breathing, some thought those countries where our works were banned are the works of the politicians, unknowingly to them that it's the religionists who are critics of TRUTH that are fighting under~G.

Let him continue crying all day long after all he can't do anything to stop pure worship! cheesy cheesy cheesy


Eya keep taking heart. Your jehovah can't do more than a dead rat. Last last the only place where your jehovah will kill or slaughter or destroy wicked/worldly people is only inside your imagination and in watchtower magazines.


No be only pure worship. What of adulterated worship? Lol

Keep wishing. Last last na wish and it will never come true.

Your gb member said he will be beside his jesus slaughtering wicked/worldly people. He is even imagining how he is going to commit murder
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by rottennaija(m): 9:46am On Dec 04, 2019
CAPTIVATOR:

Tree of life signifies Immortality which they receive during their Ressurection. ( First Ressurection) 1 Cor 15:52,53 the dead will be raised up ... and this which is mortal must put on immortality .



U are creating more issues for yourself

Did it say Tree of life ? Jesus once told a Samaritan woman that Water of Life means " everlasting life " John 4:14 . Water of life signifies everlasting life that Jesus will give this great crowd that survived the great tribulation that occur on earth where they are. THEY DIDNT DIE to be ressurected to heaven. They came out alive from the great tribulation. Man, They are right here on earth.

The temple is where they are . On earth where the tribulation occur, and yes their body too is Gods temple. Note: They didnt die and get resurrected , They Came out alive from the tribulation. Comprehende ?

Points to Note 1:
Since you have accepted that the bodies of this GC is temple of God, temple of the holy spirit... (1 Co 6:15-20; 1 Co 3:16,17) That makes them members of Christ body with one spirit with him. Quite ironically, you don't realise that by being a member of Christ body, they share in his spirit, with a heavenly hope. Those words spoken in the text cited above were directed to anointed Christians and if they are applicable to the great crowd, then they are anointed Christians.

The problem with splitting one concept into many is that it create many Contradiction you cannot fathom when creating the idea. Because you are so invested in making the temple of Re 7:15 to be earthly, (bearing in mind that Christians worship in no physical temple) you are forced to conclude that the temple is the also refers to their body.

This is contradict watchtower position because as said by them, anointed Christians are God's temple, underpriest. (See w74 8/15 pg. 491, par. 4; w72 12/1 p. 719 par. 10, it-2 p. 1083 par. 5; re chap 6, pg. 29, par. 9)
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2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I will reside among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

Ephesians 2:21, 22
In union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple for Jehovah. In union with him you too are being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit.

1 Peter 2:5
you yourselves as living stones are being built up into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, in order to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Points to Note 2:
Another problem with your writeup is that it Contradicts your religion. Watchtower is very specific about the temple of Re 7:15. Not even remotely do they suggest the temple of Re 7:15 is related to the temple of christ body of Christians. They said below:

"true, it is later described at Revelation 7:15 as serving God" in his temple". But this temple does not refer to the inner sanctuary, the Most Holy. Rather, it is the earthly courtyard of God's spiritual temple. The Greek word naos, here translated "temple", often conveys the broad sense of the entire edifice erected for Jehovah's worship. Today, this is a spiritual structure that embraces both heaven and earth. " - Relevation! It Grand Climax, Chap 20 page 124 par. 14

(However, what the above paragraph said in "relation to noas being the entire courtyard of the temple" is false. This false information of "noas being the entire temple courtyard" is also repeated in Insight Vol. 2, under the headings "Temple" , "Sanctuary" and some other WT publications. The temple sanctuary of Re 7:15, Greek "noas", divine habitations of God correspond to the Holy of Holies, the inner courtyard, Not the entire temple courtyard.

The false information in watchtower publications later corrected in watchtower of May 1, 2002, page 31 par 1. I'm. It away of any of their recent publications that discusses the subject but I'm guessing they will have to produce a book that replaces the insight anytime soon)

So you have 2 problems so far. If the members of the great crowd are God's temple, then they are definitely anointed Christians. And secondly, the temple of Re 7:15 is no referring to the body as in 1 Co 6:15-20; 1 Co 3:16,17 but the "divine habitation of Jehovah, the Holy of Holies" .
So, if the temple of Re 7:15 is not referring to human bodies, you have to deal with the fact that the temple mentioned there something different, and you will have to show that its either in heaven or on earth. But again, God's servant do not worship in any physical temple where you have the holy of holies.

Now, make no mistake about it, all true Christians are anointed. They have a single hope. What I posted above is not to support watchtower convoluted doctrine, but meant to show you the level of your ignorance thereby making the work of explaining things to you bigger than it should be.

Point to Note 3:
In your attempt to create a demarcation between the tree of life and the water of LIFE, you have obviously created another issue for yourself.

First of all, the Watchtower themselves hardly make such demarcations, only in few instances. In some cases, saying it applies to all, in other cases, saying it applies to all. The same is also true of life, conquering of Re 21:6,7.

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Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 3:31pm On Dec 04, 2019
rottennaija:

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Maximus69
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@bolded is the only one you can engage in your hide and seek games, as for the rest i'm using this medium to tell you that whatever you hear from Matthew, Mark, Luke and John regarding sacred matters is exactly what you'll get from Peter, Paul, Barnabas, Jude and James.

Never underestimate their oneness in thought! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3, Philippians 2:2 compared to John 17:20-23

So give us any label that comes to your mind, just bear in mind that we are the same throughout the earth (including all your relatives who are also devoted JWs) wink
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by rottennaija(m): 3:44pm On Dec 04, 2019
Maximus69:


@bolded is the only one you can engage in your hide and seek games, as for the rest i'm using this medium to tell you that whatever you hear from Matthew, Mark, Luke and John regarding sacred matters is exactly what you'll get from Peter, Paul, Barnabas, Jude and James.

Never underestimate their oneness in thought! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3, Philippians 2:2 compared to John 17:20-23

So give us any label that comes to your mind, just bear in mind that we are the same throughout the earth (including all your relatives who are also devoted JWs) wink


The weakest, most subdued response I have ever seen. undecided
Kudos
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 5:17pm On Dec 04, 2019
rottennaija:


The weakest, most subdued response I have ever seen. undecided
Kudos

Yes ooooooooooo!

The weakest in the eyes of rebels! wink
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by rottennaija(m): 6:10pm On Dec 04, 2019
Maximus69:


Yes ooooooooooo!

The weakest in the eyes of rebels! wink

Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by rottennaija(m): 6:13pm On Dec 04, 2019
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Hairyrapunzel: 6:13pm On Dec 04, 2019
Maximus69:


Yes ooooooooooo!

The weakest in the eyes of rebels! wink


How you take classify person as rebel sef? Hmmm

This you guys imaginary living forever in paradise earth na wa. Imagine calling someone a rebel. Lol an imaginary
rebel
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 11:04am On Dec 05, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:



How you take classify person as rebel sef? Hmmm

This you guys imaginary living forever in paradise earth na wa. Imagine calling someone a rebel. Lol an imaginary
rebel

It's either you're WEAK for regarding ORDERLINESS or you REBEL against ORDERS.

You can't be the two at once! wink
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Hairyrapunzel: 12:10pm On Dec 05, 2019
Maximus69:


It's either you're WEAK for regarding ORDERLINESS or you REBEL against ORDERS.

You can't be the two at once! wink
.
Whose orders? Which orders? You gb never form government yet na? The government is still inside your heads and magazines so you have no right to classify a person rebel yet.
I no fit laff
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 1:14pm On Dec 05, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:
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Whose orders? Which orders? You gb never form government yet na? The government is still inside your heads and magazines so you have no right to classify a person rebel yet.
I no fit laff

Wow! undecided

Are you serious of the bolded or you just feel like playing the clown now? cheesy

Well if they haven't form a government, why disturb yourself for years over above 8,500,000 individuals globally obeying their orders? cheesy

You and your friend were also under their oversight before you both REBELLED against their ORDERS, otherwise you won't be here 24/7 bitterly worrying your brains because of the GOVERNING BODY and their SUBJECTS! cheesy
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Hairyrapunzel: 2:22pm On Dec 05, 2019
Maximus69:


Wow! undecided

Are you serious of the bolded or you just feel like playing the clown now? cheesy

Well if they haven't form a government, why disturb yourself for years over above 8,500,000 individuals globally obeying their orders? cheesy

You and your friend were also under their oversight before you both REBELLED against their ORDERS, otherwise you won't be here 24/7 bitterly worrying your brains because of the GOVERNING BODY and their SUBJECTS! cheesy

Jim Jones people's temple members said same thin about him.

Brainwashed humans aka zombies must get leaders. No be news
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by Nobody: 3:05pm On Dec 05, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


Jim Jones people's temple members said same thin about him.

Brainwashed humans aka zombies must get leaders. No be news

So why disturb yourself? cheesy
Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by achorladey: 9:06pm On Dec 05, 2019
Maximus69:


@bolded is the only one you can engage in your hide and seek games, as for the rest i'm using this medium to tell you that whatever you hear from Matthew, Mark, Luke and John regarding sacred matters is exactly what you'll get from Peter, Paul, Barnabas, Jude and James.

Never underestimate their oneness in thought! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3, Philippians 2:2 compared to John 17:20-23

So give us any label that comes to your mind, just bear in mind that we are the same throughout the earth (including all your relatives who are also devoted JWs) wink


check your explanation up there with the BELOW.......


whatever you get from Mr Russell is different from what you get from Mr Rutherford and equally different from what you get from Knorr and far far different from what you are currently obtaining from the GB.

REALITY says they were not all in SAME mind and THOUGHT.

You KNOW why?...............

THE LIGHT GET BRIGHTER SAGA.

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