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Re: Messi Can Have The Ballon D'or - Van Dijk Driven By Premier League Title by Moura7(m): 10:43pm On Dec 02, 2019
OGHENAOGIE:
stop lying to urself there was no way zidane would have won that award... so cos those defenders weren't recognized, now that vvd deserved it he can't win it right... a man voted best player in EPL u are saying they did better than him in what way... simply put u a biased Messi supporter

How was there no way Zidane would have won it? who's being biased now? So what if he was voted EPL player of the year ,how was that been a criteria for someone to win the ballond'or. did past EPL player of the year winners win the ballond'or? Is this same VVD better than Ramos of 2014? dude evwn scored two goals in the UCL Final then
Re: Messi Can Have The Ballon D'or - Van Dijk Driven By Premier League Title by Moura7(m): 10:50pm On Dec 02, 2019
Beverlyjean:


There is no heartbeat in Argentina ...they are all the same

So there's no standout player ,yet Messi is their top scorer and assists of all time? Have you even seen args stats without Messi? You don't just rubbish his achievements there because he hasn't won a major trophy with the team. A trophy is a team award and so no matter how good Messi is, he still needs he help of his teammates to achieve this feat.There comes a time when the other ten players have to step up too. And there's a difference btw players playing for Messi and players depending on Messi
Re: Messi Can Have The Ballon D'or - Van Dijk Driven By Premier League Title by OGHENAOGIE(m): 8:04am On Dec 04, 2019
Moura7:


How was there no way Zidane would have won it? who's being biased now? So what if he was voted EPL player of the year ,how was that been a criteria for someone to win the ballond'or. did past EPL player of the year winners win the ballond'or? Is this same VVD better than Ramos of 2014? dude evwn scored two goals in the UCL Final then
so u didn't see vvd 2 goals against Brighton last week... you are pathetic with ur comparison with Ramos others... is modric best midfielder in this era didn't he win last year for his world cup performance especially... was cannavaro the best all time defender when he won 2006...was George weah the best all time attacker when he won 96... it's award for a season not historical or life time achievement award...
Re: Messi Can Have The Ballon D'or - Van Dijk Driven By Premier League Title by Moura7(m): 10:00am On Dec 04, 2019
OGHENAOGIE:
so u didn't see vvd 2 goals against Brighton last week... you are pathetic with ur comparison with Ramos others... is modric best midfielder in this era didn't he win last year for his world cup performance especially... was cannavaro the best all time defender when he won 2006...was George weah the best all time attacker when he won 96... it's award for a season not historical or life time achievement award...
Dude if you check my comments, you'd see that I didn't insult you at all so I'd like to respected too.
Ramos scored more than 7goals in 2014,he won the UCL, Spanish super cup, UEFA super cup and FIFA club world cup ,Copa del rey .A far more impressive stats than VVD this year, did he win? ... NO.
Varane won the UCL&WC,the FIFA club world cup too in 2018,also far more impressive in 2018 did he win it?... NO?...Mind you he was also pivotal for both Madrid and France that year.
Roberto Carlos won the UCL and WC too in 2002 ... scored an impressive amount of goals too.Did he win it?...NO
Re: Messi Can Have The Ballon D'or - Van Dijk Driven By Premier League Title by Moura7(m): 10:02am On Dec 04, 2019
And the ballond'or is an award for the calendar year not the season
Re: Messi Can Have The Ballon D'or - Van Dijk Driven By Premier League Title by OGHENAOGIE(m): 3:17pm On Dec 04, 2019
Moura7:

Dude if you check my comments, you'd see that I didn't insult you at all so I'd like to respected too.
Ramos scored more than 7goals in 2014,he won the UCL, Spanish super cup, UEFA super cup and FIFA club world cup ,Copa del rey .A far more impressive stats than VVD this year, did he win? ... NO.
Varane won the UCL&WC,the FIFA club world cup too in 2018,also far more impressive in 2018 did he win it?... NO?...Mind you he was also pivotal for both Madrid and France that year.
Roberto Carlos won the UCL and WC too in 2002 ... scored an impressive amount of goals too.Did he win it?...NO
so because they didn't win van dijk can't win right... you are further exposing the bias which football adherents has against defenders... we are talking about this season which vvd had a great year is d award an historical award or life time award I ask... modric didn't have the impact xavi or inesta or sneider had in 2010 but he still won last year... so why all these comparison with Ramos varane... this should now tell u the psychology of the world in always underating defenders and glorifying goal scorers... a year vvd was d best in England.. these players didn't even win best player in their league to start yet u feel vvd is overrated...just say u don't rate defenders or underate van dijk prowess
Re: Messi Can Have The Ballon D'or - Van Dijk Driven By Premier League Title by Moura7(m): 4:45pm On Dec 04, 2019
OGHENAOGIE:
so because they didn't win van dijk can't win right... you are further exposing the bias which football adherents has against defenders... we are talking about this season which vvd had a great year is d award an historical award or life time award I ask... modric didn't have the impact xavi or inesta or sneider had in 2010 but he still won last year... so why all these comparison with Ramos varane... this should now tell u the psychology of the world in always underating defenders and glorifying goal scorers... a year vvd was d best in England.. these players didn't even win best player in their league to start yet u feel vvd is overrated...just say u don't rate defenders or underate van dijk prowess

Dude you keep missing the point.....you keep on saying it's not a historical award and I'm still pointing defenders that had better stats in a particular year and not their entire careers. VVD was good this year no doubt but I still think Mane was better.Dude was phenomenal in attack this year for Liverpool...my opinion tho
Re: Messi Can Have The Ballon D'or - Van Dijk Driven By Premier League Title by OGHENAOGIE(m): 8:00pm On Dec 04, 2019
Moura7:


Dude you keep missing the point.....you keep on saying it's not a historical award and I'm still pointing defenders that had better stats in a particular year and not their entire careers. VVD was good this year no doubt but I still think Mane was better.Dude was phenomenal in attack this year for Liverpool...my opinion tho
u don't underrate defenders yet u pick mane cos he scored goals... Van dijk won the best player in England best player in champions league finals... UEFA best player from same team mane was part of... you all don't rate defenders so stop this rigmarole... using Ramos varane previous stats doesn't follow here...
Re: Messi Can Have The Ballon D'or - Van Dijk Driven By Premier League Title by Moura7(m): 9:21pm On Dec 04, 2019
OGHENAOGIE:
u don't underrate defenders yet u pick mane cos he scored goals... Van dijk won the best player in England best player in champions league finals... UEFA best player from same team mane was part of... you all don't rate defenders so stop this rigmarole... using Ramos varane previous stats doesn't follow here...
Is there anything like best player in UEFA finals? How does Ramos and Varane previous stats don't apply here?

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