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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:49am On Dec 06, 2019
Roland17:
Back to back games where Freddy’s player selection made the game more difficult and complicated than it should have been which ultimately cost us today’s game. I am not sure what he was thinking when he reintroduced Sokratis into the starting lineup, brings Tierney when Kola went down when Tierney should have started in the first place, shunts Auba to the wings and starts Willock again, worsestill higher up the pitch with Ozil rotating around the wings.
Freddy has not shown he is ready to make difficult changes with this team. I have told everyone not to tell me he is just an interim because the season is still young and I am not going to accept experimentations. If he was not up to the task he should have told the board when he was offered the position!!! If this is the case, we may as well go ahead and make a permanent hire now, rather than wait until the end of the season.
Big shout out to Pepe, he brought some spark, he just needs goals to compliment his performances...
I know I talked about willock before the game. Ljumberg lost that game first half with his stupid starting 11. Willock should just be relegated to the u23. I have not seen such lackadaisical attitude and foolish play from a youngster for a very long time. Pepe really added urgency to our game, he just need that scoring touch from him, and the tempo of our game increased with his introduction. I think that's the only positive from ystdy's game.
Lacazette , aside the goal underwhelmed. Poor hold up play, his link up was good enough. Xhaka tried tho, but our midfield is still a problems. No closing down on opponents when they're with ball.
Mehn, I'm beginning to believe most of this other clubs have quality players than us. It's just so sad how we're weak quality-wise, physically and mentally. Just so so sad
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SirAce: 10:50am On Dec 06, 2019
Assnal can still win the league. In Freddie Ljungberg we Trust

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 11:06am On Dec 06, 2019
Jodera:
Lol..
Bro, I no sure say him dey mock us. Na just diz kain lighthearted remark. He was even among one of us sef who hoped we lose against Leicester sef so dat dey fit sack Emery.
No mind him, since no jerrycurl to feast on, he looked to pounce on anyone close to him..

I've reiterated my views on getting a premiership young manager like Nuno Espirito who if allowed, will get rid of players who aren't good enough and those who have peaked, stealing a living who should be playing in less competitive leagues in Europe.

Bring in hungry quality players( not necessarily big money name or media hype) who understand basics, good ability on the ball with massive engine required in modern English football..

We need to come to earth and accept we aren't that big anymore, the big names are just flattering, let's tow the Liverpool path by doing it gradually..

Why do you think managers aren't rushing us? Allegri knows these players will soil his CV and your owners aren't ready to spend the dough.

Get a low key manager with an identity and ditch the Arsenal culture away.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by airmark(m): 11:08am On Dec 06, 2019
BikeMan:
You still don't know how to spell your coach's name Sodick cheesy

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by TalabiAudu: 11:20am On Dec 06, 2019
Lana1:
Who are we blaming today?

A. Wenger
B. Emery
C. Grinding Machine
D. Fighting Spirit.


Lmfao!!
grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 11:25am On Dec 06, 2019
Jodera:
I know I talked about willock before the game. Ljumberg lost that game first half with his stupid starting 11. Willock should just be relegated to the u23. I have not seen such lackadaisical attitude and foolish play from a youngster for a very long time. Pepe really added urgency to our game, he just need that scoring touch from him, and the tempo of our game increased with his introduction. I think that's the only positive from ystdy's game.
Lacazette , aside the goal underwhelmed. Poor hold up play, his link up was good enough. Xhaka tried tho, but our midfield is still a problems. No closing down on opponents when they're with ball.
Mehn, I'm beginning to believe most of this other clubs have quality players than us. It's just so sad how we're weak quality-wise, physically and mentally. Just so so sad

Mehn the bolded is on point,
Observe how the Brighton players were doubling on Pepe and our attackers, they allowed us no room to breathe..
Our defenders are either scared or lack energy to do such..
My Brother, the truth is most players outside top6 are better physically and mentally than us.

Xhaka, I'm not his fan, but he tried, but notice he's very poor on the ball, he only stands and spray passes all day, compare him to Aaron Moy, Moy was doing everything I'll like from a midfielder, dominant, good with the ball,drives it up,winning duels easily, confident and bullying our small frame players. He was a CM,DM and CAM yesterday.

How many of our players have more than 2 special talent? How many can shoot,dribble, cross, create defense splitting passes, good in the air,shielding the ball,natural scorers, free kicks etc..

I urge you to see games from midtable teams in England SeriA,LA liga,Bundesliga etc and compare their players ability, strength and spirit to ours. It'll be v.clear bro.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jencejyde(m): 11:51am On Dec 06, 2019
Lol, I have always said that there are two sides to a game of football. The attacking side and and the defending side. Great teams with success have their styles built on the foundation of playing both sides of the game.

Liverpool may have a fantastic front three but they also have a hardworking front three that not only knows how to attack but also defends and presses when required. I really can't say that for us maybe cos we still don't have proper manager.

Again i have always said that its a crime for a player to have more than 5 seconds on the ball in your attacking third or midfield zone moreso that you are the home team. There were times when Brighton players had far too much time and space on the ball. Credit to our players for trying especially xhaka but the discipline in closing down with players being not more than 10 to 12 yards from each other is not there. I watched this game and honestly, as much as i also criticize the Freddie selection. I was not happy with some of the pressing. Some players would press while some would stay far back .Thats not pressing, its suicide cos a good team will simply pick one apart with that sort of pressing.

Great to see that people noticed how Brighton Pressed us with putting at least 4 players in our attacking third to stop us playing from the back and building momentum. This is not down to just how the players are coached but how the players execute the instructions they are given to the letter and consistently.

I can't fault the attitude of Torriera, Xhaka and Kola in this Game as well as Pepe when he came on but the front three need to take a good look at themselves. Ozil Auba and Laca need to work hard. In fact they need to be drilled even after training hours on basics of pressing and if one person is not fit enough(cos pressing requires high fitness levels) they should be replaced.

This is why Saka would always be in my team. The boy can be taught and with the little i have seen of him, he can be part of something big as well as martinelli for their direct attitude off and on the ball.

Willock needs to be taken out of the firing line to not kill his confidence as i beilive he may still come good but atm its not happening for him.

I want to see Freddie and Per man up to be able to drop players that are not fit enough or lack the right attitude to play his own style which is the Arsenal way.

I am not writing him off just yet but from the next game, his selection will be seriously called to question and the way the players play off the ball if they want to press will also be scrutinized. For crying out loud these guys are pro players paid high fees. How can they not be able to carry out simple strategies based on instructions.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 12:08pm On Dec 06, 2019
cool

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by fredoooooo: 12:14pm On Dec 06, 2019
Lana1:
Who are we blaming today?

A. Wenger
B. Emery
C. Grinding Machine
D. Fighting Spirit.

Hahahah Lana no go kill me .. grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 12:16pm On Dec 06, 2019

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 12:20pm On Dec 06, 2019
Fkhalifa:


Mehn the bolded is on point,
Observe how the Brighton players were doubling on Pepe and our attackers, they allowed us no room to breathe..
Our defenders are either scared or lack energy to do such..
My Brother, the truth is most players outside top6 are better physically and mentally than us.

Xhaka, I'm not his fan, but he tried, but notice he's very poor on the ball, he only stands and spray passes all day, compare him to Aaron Moy, Moy was doing everything I'll like from a midfielder, dominant, good with the ball,drives it up,winning duels easily, confident and bullying our small frame players. He was a CM,DM and CAM yesterday.

How many of our players have more than 2 special talent? How many can shoot,dribble, cross, create defense splitting passes, good in the air,shielding the ball,natural scorers, free kicks etc..

I urge you to see games from midtable teams in England SeriA,LA liga,Bundesliga etc and compare their players ability, strength and spirit to ours. It'll be v.clear bro.

This was exactly what I was saying the other day. Xhaka can never ever play in the middle of the park either as a CM or DM. All he wants to do is stand at a particular spot and spray passes to the end of the earth. None of the CM/DM of top 6 teams play that way(This explains where we are where we are). He seem to slow for premiership where one has to make decisions in an instant.

Sincerely Xhaka needs to go to make way for somebody faster and mobile. At a point yesterday i wished Torriera had Xhaka's stature whcih Xhaka was obviously wasting away
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 12:36pm On Dec 06, 2019
Yesterday's match could've ended differently, but Ljunberg's inexperience was his undoing. At the point we were tied at 1-1, he could've taken out Ozil whose only contribution to that game is the corner-kicks he played all night. Taking out Ozil and introducing martinelli would've mounted pressure on Brighton's backline making it difficult for them to leave their defence to attack us which led to their second goal.

I think going forward he needs to also ditch Sokratis for Chambers in that CB role. Sokratis just finds it so difficult to play ball with his feet. He excels in Jam-body only.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 12:58pm On Dec 06, 2019
BlueRayDick:


This was exactly what I was saying the other day. Xhaka can never ever play in the middle of the park either as a CM or DM. All he wants to do is stand at a particular spot and spray passes to the end of the earth. None of the CM/DM of top 6 teams play that way(This explains where we are where we are). He seem to slow for premiership where one has to make decisions in an instant.

Sincerely Xhaka needs to go to make way for somebody faster and mobile. At a point yesterday i wished Torriera had Xhaka's stature whcih Xhaka was obviously wasting away
Exactly, Torrreira would be up there with the topDMs in the league only if he's built like Xhaka.I think same to
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 1:01pm On Dec 06, 2019
BlueRayDick:
Yesterday's match could've ended differently, but Ljunberg's inexperience was his undoing. At the point we were tied at 1-1, he could've taken out Ozil whose only contribution to that game is the corner-kicks he played all night. Taking out Ozil and introducing martinelli would've mounted pressure on Brighton's backline making it difficult for them to leave their defence to attack us which led to their second goal.

I think going forward he needs to also ditch Sokratis for Chambers in that CB role. Sokratis just finds it so difficult to play ball with his feet. He excels in Jam-body only.
You're spot on Martinelli/Ozil sub, Somebodyhino can run,press,create and score headers.. His energy could have done something late on.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Excallibur(m): 1:09pm On Dec 06, 2019
Lana1:
Who are we blaming today?
A. Wenger B. Emery C. Grinding Machine D. Fighting Spirit.
dis one too want to make heaven grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 1:45pm On Dec 06, 2019
And they are both Emery’s signings but we still go as far as blaming Wenger for Emeryball
Fkhalifa:
cool
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 1:56pm On Dec 06, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
And they are both Emery’s signings but we still go as far as blaming Wenger for Emeryball
Emery's signings are better than the mess he met.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:28pm On Dec 06, 2019
Fkhalifa:


Mehn the bolded is on point,
Observe how the Brighton players were doubling on Pepe and our attackers, they allowed us no room to breathe..
Our defenders are either scared or lack energy to do such..
My Brother, the truth is most players outside top6 are better physically and mentally than us.

Xhaka, I'm not his fan, but he tried, but notice he's very poor on the ball, he only stands and spray passes all day, compare him to Aaron Moy, Moy was doing everything I'll like from a midfielder, dominant, good with the ball,drives it up,winning duels easily, confident and bullying our small frame players. He was a CM,DM and CAM yesterday.

[/b]How many of our players have more than 2 special talent? How many can shoot,dribble, cross, create defense splitting passes, good in the air,shielding the ball,natural scorers, free kicks etc[b]..

I urge you to see games from midtable teams in England SeriA,LA liga,Bundesliga etc and compare their players ability, strength and spirit to ours. It'll be v.clear bro.
Seriously, that's true at the bolded. Even as we equalised yesterday, you could see that there's no one player that we could look at for the winning goal. The passion and desire to win the game yesterday was there, but you could see the quality was really lacking. By 80min they were tired, and b4 you know, boom...Brighton scored.
We lack quality and confidence bro.
Lacazette was off
Auba made for cf only
Ozil is waning
Willock (mtcheww)
Torriera was the only person trying, but not an effective scorer or an attack initiator
Xhaka tried but too one dimensional and lack mobility
Kolasinac...so one sided. Always taking the harder route over the easy one
Bellerin...tried but made so many wrong decision ystdy
Sok and luiz...never inspiring
Leno...as usual, consistent

Sub
Martinelli...ought to be starting over lacazette now
Tierney... A good crosser of d ball. Really under utilized.
Pepe....one of his best games ystdy in d league
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 2:46pm On Dec 06, 2019
BlueRayDick:
Yesterday's match could've ended differently, but Ljunberg's inexperience was his undoing. At the point we were tied at 1-1, he could've taken out Ozil whose only contribution to that game is the corner-kicks he played all night. Taking out Ozil and introducing martinelli would've mounted pressure on Brighton's backline making it difficult for them to leave their defence to attack us which led to their second goal.

I think going forward he needs to also ditch Sokratis for Chambers in that CB role. Sokratis just finds it so difficult to play ball with his feet. He excels in Jam-body only.
ditch the whole defence, he should try Dino chambers and holding
These 3 can't be worse than those 2 agberos we are parading
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Elohe001: 3:02pm On Dec 06, 2019


Mikel arteta

Nuno esperneto

Masmalimo allegri

Pochettino

Patrick Veira

Fredie Ljungberg

Carlo ancelotti

Brendan Rodgers




so far so good undecided
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 3:07pm On Dec 06, 2019
Jodera:
Seriously, that's true at the bolded. Even as we equalised yesterday, you could see that there's no one player that we could look at for the winning goal. The passion and desire to win the game yesterday was there, but you could see the quality was really lacking. By 80min they were tired, and b4 you know, boom...Brighton scored.
We lack quality and confidence bro.
Lacazette was off
Auba made for cf only
Ozil is waning
Willock (mtcheww)
Torriera was the only person trying, but not an effective scorer or an attack initiator
Xhaka tried but too one dimensional and lack mobility
Kolasinac...so one sided. Always taking the harder route over the easy one
Bellerin...tried but made so many wrong decision ystdy
Sok and luiz...never inspiring
Leno...as usual, consistent

Sub
Martinelli...ought to be starting over lacazette now
Tierney... A good crosser of d ball. Really under utilized.
Pepe....one of his best games ystdy in d league
There's no better assessment than what you put there, that's my view on them all...

At the bolded, I remember a Liverpool fan telling me after the final at Baku, how he wanted us to win,he said when he saw our lineup, he couldn't pick any scary dangerous player in our team to trouble Chelsea, I mentioned 2 big names in the team, he hissed and said what's scary about those ones, that he meant someone like Mane..

The way forward now are,:
concentrate on winning Europa/Fa cup( our boys no get energy to dig it week in week out in the league)..

keep ljumberg till season ending( no big coach will want to come soil his CV with these clowns)

Go for Nuno in the summer, then let's rebuild from there.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 3:12pm On Dec 06, 2019
iamoyindamola:
ditch the whole defence, he should try Dino chambers and holding
These 3 can't be worse than those 2 agberos we are parading

Mavropanos is not ready. The game he played before he was injured back then showed it.

I'm cool with Holding Chambers. If only Ljunberg will have the balls to play Luiz in that 4 postion and allow Torriera to partner him going to and fro in midfield
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 3:16pm On Dec 06, 2019
Elohe001:



so far so good undecided

Cross out Allegri to,He sure knows what befell Emery will befall him with this lots, doesn't speak English, he is another good ezening waiting to happen, needs huge fund and rumored to have said No.
.
Poch has reportedly said No

Arsenal will not risk Arterta..

So give it to the last man standing
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lana1(m): 3:28pm On Dec 06, 2019
Fkhalifa:


Cross out Allegri to,He sure knows what befell Emery will befall him with this lots, doesn't speak English, he is another good ezening waiting to happen, needs huge fund and rumored to have said No.
.
Poch has reportedly said No

Arsenal will not risk Arterta..

So give it to the last man standing
Moyes?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 3:44pm On Dec 06, 2019
Fkhalifa:

Emery's signings are better than the mess he met.
which? Most of the players saving us week in week out are wenger’s.

Old Monreal would even offer more than what Tierney has done so far.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:51pm On Dec 06, 2019
BlueRayDick:


Mavropanos is not ready. The game he played before he was injured back then showed it.

I'm cool with Holding Chambers. If only Ljunberg will have the balls to play Luiz in that 4 postion and allow Torriera to partner him going to and fro in midfield
why are they afraid to try out other options in defence
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 4:03pm On Dec 06, 2019
Fkhalifa:

Emery's signings are better than the mess he met.
if u are calling what he met a mess. What will u call what he left for Ljunberg?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:27pm On Dec 06, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
which? Most of the players saving us week in week out are wenger’s.

Old Monreal would even offer more than what Tierney has done so far.

The summer of 16/17 will go down as the dark year which wrecked the club slow and steady progress which set us back big time and we are still feeling the effect now. it also allowed liverpool to rise above us as they were in the same position as us a few years ago.

16/17 we got xhaka, mustafi, perez and 100m wasted

If we had got the 2016/17 signings right we would have a good cb and dm and continued to progress steadily toward the top of the league.

Mustafi alone cost more than Sokratis/Luiz combined, Pa Wenger wasted what Emery will jejely use sign correct defenders cheesy

Xhaka's fee alone will buy us Kante and Wanyama.

So trace the problem down.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:32pm On Dec 06, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
if u are calling what he met a mess. What will u call what he left for Ljunberg?

A good manager can still work something out on
Leno
Tierney
Torreira
Guendozi
Pepe
Martinelli
Ceballos
Saliba

He didn't bring in Sokratis and Luiz for long term...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ChristineC: 4:43pm On Dec 06, 2019
Lana1:
Kroenke to Ljungberg in tomorrow's staff meeting:

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by purpleprincess: 4:48pm On Dec 06, 2019
Aubameyang has just showed the world why Arsenal is full of shit. cheesy grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 5:11pm On Dec 06, 2019
Fkhalifa:


A good manager can still work something out on
Leno
Tierney
Torreira
Guendozi
Pepe
Martinelli
Ceballos
Saliba

He didn't bring in Sokratis and Luiz for long term...

this doesn’t answer the question

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