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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmasoft(m): 1:14am On Dec 11, 2019
Nigsrdumb:


Sir the market is not dynamic enough. Imagine the 5 top performers are all banks.

Where are all the other industries?

I think business/ real estate/ high interest bonds are the way to go.

The market is a reflection of the economy of a nation. Its dynamism is dictated by the state of the economy and policy makers. for instance you can see what is happening to Tbills rates of recent base on economic policy yet investors still buy Tbills depending on their risk tolerance, business/ real estate/ high interest bonds as you mentioned are other forms of investment. each has its place in investment world and they serve their different purpose. So the market still is a form of investment no matter how risky. All you do is to allocate your resources wisely to maximize your ROI

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by PeterKbaba: 2:22am On Dec 11, 2019
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Willie2015: 4:56am On Dec 11, 2019
eniorisha:


One will need special training for this o. It sounds cool especially in this Yuletide season

No, you dont need a special training...
Just sit on the net and read...
Google all these Asian countries... they have cheap ways of doing things..
Then practice on a small scale level.... b/4 you start big..

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Diyke4rich: 5:29am On Dec 11, 2019
Good day

I am currently out of the country which I think I will be away for more than 5years I just did a treasury bill at 7.9% annual, please I need advice if this my treasury matures what can invest for 3 to 4years that offers more interest rate with less risk involve.

Thank you
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by healthserve(m): 6:17am On Dec 11, 2019
emmasoft:


I can relate with the period you just mentioned. It's the period I called era of blind and non calculated risk investment by Nigerians. when people just bought anything in the name of investment. If you really want to make money in the market after defining your goals/investment objectives: Read, read, and read again, be hungry for market and economic information, you will be amazed what you can get from the stock market. For your information that is what happens all over the markets in the different countries of the world. Even the all powerful wall street. But I can see you are not very far from reality. Just put in a little more effort. to understand the dynamics of the stock market you will be fine. I am talking from experience.


I understand your position on these issues Sir and why yours should be deemed accurate and mine the uninformed investors perspective, the robust financial values of these organizations is nothing compared with their digital worth and " dividends "/ profit value investors should benefit from their investments


If I'm the president I'll set up a committee immediately to probe the market and sack all top echelons and ensure regular audit of the market. Let's say the truth the market is a fiasco


I know what I'm saying. If you follow a company's record like Nestle in the past 20 Years and compare it with the averagely Nigerian owned business, you'll notice the glaring difference, not just on the records but in terms of financial values, I.e dividends/stock value/company's performance

Allow me say, let's compare these analytics between Transcorp and Nestle for example


The stock market is sick and needs hospitalization Sir


BTW I managed a person's
stock portfolio ( this may sound funny ) BTW 1994-1999/2000, it was without the funny market scenarios that has been panning out in recent years
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Emmaesty(f): 6:41am On Dec 11, 2019
Diyke4rich:
Good day

I am currently out of the country which I think I will be away for more than 5years I just did a treasury bill at 7.9% annual, please I need advice if this my treasury matures what can invest for 3 to 4years that offers more interest rate with less risk involve.

Thank you
You can buy FGN saving bonds. It is usually for a 2-3 yr period as aganist TB which is just for a year
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DaBogu: 9:20am On Dec 11, 2019
T-bills MAY crash further as CBN plans two surprise option ahead of Christmas

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 12:08pm On Dec 11, 2019
contumely2:


Do you mean that a tenant that pays yearly is not entitled to notice to quit assuming his rent has expired and he is even owing for 2 months now?

I doubt if that's the position of the law except it's a fixed tenancy in which case a 7 day's notice is ONLY needed.


At expiration of rent you only need to give him 7 days notice. The expiration of rent is deem a notice in the instance. Reality check, argument in court might last longer than 7 days but you are to give 7 days and not months as erroneously propounded by most lawyers. You only issue quit notice if rent has not expired

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by healthserve(m): 12:10pm On Dec 11, 2019
Barrytone:


At expiration of rent you only need to give him 7 days notice. The expiration of rent is deem a notice in the instance. Reality check, argument in court might last longer than 7 days but you are to give 7 days and not months as erroneously propounded by most lawyers. You only issue quit notice if rent has not expired

G.M Boss

Mind telling us the state of things in regards to the tenants after all the events that transpired

" To court " or " To vacate "

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 12:18pm On Dec 11, 2019
healthserve:


G.M Boss

Mind telling us the state of things in regards to the tenants after all the events that transpired

" To court " or " To vacate "


Agreed to let her stay free till Feb. I don't have time to even think about any other thing other than making money. I don't need to win always. I accept defeat and pray she meets her match someday. My Tbills investment has never and will never put me in that state.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by healthserve(m): 12:30pm On Dec 11, 2019
Barrytone:


Agreed to let her stay free till Feb. I don't have time to even think about any other thing other than making money. I don't need to win always. I accept defeat and pray she meets her match someday. My Tbills investment has never and will never put me in that state.


Thats why anything that isn't organized/regulated institutional investment like tbills is an instant turnoff for me


Thank God this ends in a good note. My sister wasn't so lucky with her one tenants who resorted to using diabolical means so as not to vacate the house. To end the drama, we had to sell of the property and moved the funds into business proper


Business that ties are formed like in the owner/partner/tenant agreements is always subject to this kind of tussles. As the Lord liveth, I've vowed to almost not do business with a black man again. Never

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 12:44pm On Dec 11, 2019
healthserve:



Thats why anything that isn't organized/regulated institutional investment like tbills is an instant turnoff for me


Thank God this ends in a good note. My sister wasn't so lucky with her one tenants who resorted to using diabolical means so as not to vacate the house. To end the drama, we had to sell of the property and moved the funds into business proper


Business that ties are formed like in the owner/partner/tenant agreements is always subject to this kind of tussles. As the Lord liveth, I've vowed to almost not do business with a black man again. Never

As someone who doesn't own a single property in naija but heavily invested in t bills, I still feel you guys are in a better scenario just incase the economy finally bursts.

At least with a house you're safe from homelessness, inflation risks etc.

My greatest fear is that all this money I'm carrying around could vanish if Nigeria goes Zimbabwe.

But properties are just damn too expensive.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by healthserve(m): 12:47pm On Dec 11, 2019
Nigsrdumb:


As someone who doesn't own a single property in naija but heavily invested in t bills, I still feel you guys are in a better secenerio just incase the economy finally bursts.

At least with a house you're safe from homelessness, inflation risks etc.

My greatest fear is that all this money I'm carrying around could vanish if Nigeria goes Zimbabwe.

But properties are just damn too expensive.


The country is almost in a fiasco. People don't honor business contracts easily.

My rule is simple. I learnt it after over 100 failed partnerships. If I'm not in control of Cash flow, I'm not doing it no matter how watering it is.


There are a few greenhorns rising up trying to do things right, if you can spot/find them, lucky. But its work. Its best to rely on referrals from healthy relationships

About properties been expensive, its subjective, they're many companies now selling properties on instalment basis. In many parts around Dangote refinery you can purchase lands and pay monthly. Look up on properties section for companies offering such services


I'm also scared about Nigeria on a serious note so I have international accounts where I've planned to dump my future earnings in.. I recommend this. Since you're already abroad


I also recommend you the financial markets in Europe and U.S. The rest of your funds if you feel unsure, please retain in your bank account


For me, the only most secured financial security is setting up a manufacturing industry. No matter what happens, the assets retains monetary value


For me o. I ain't doing partnership with a Black man anymore lai lai. Allow me recommend this to you as well.. cheesy

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NicoKator: 12:58pm On Dec 11, 2019
I use robotic software (EA) and it has been very impressive, the daily return is low(around 10-20% monthly but it's consistent), it works only on brokers that allow pro-Cent account, not standard account so the risk is reduced. Also PAMM with authorised & regulated brokers is good with minimal risk

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by healthserve(m): 1:10pm On Dec 11, 2019
NicoKator:



I use robotic software (EA) and it has been very impressive, the daily return is low(around 10-20% monthly but it's consistent), it works only on brokers that allow pro-Cent account, not standard account so the risk is reduced. Also PAMM with authorised & regulated brokers is good with minimal risk


Allow me recommend a trick

Open multiple pro-cent accounts and run the bots on them. Or while using the bots on a percent account, with the aid of your workstation ( VPS + Trade copier ) duplicate the positions using these setup onto your standard account. And enjoy the massive benefits


BTW, FX isn't about speed but consistency, little but gradual accumulation or you try to scale-up your funds on the account

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DaBogu: 2:54pm On Dec 11, 2019
HACK: If investment is not getting returns ahead of inflation rate then significant value is lost.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ernie4life(m): 3:27pm On Dec 11, 2019
Bloodbath embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by KpagoGIN(m): 3:33pm On Dec 11, 2019
ernie4life:
Bloodbath embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed
We are now in the "END TIME"
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Just2endowed2(m): 3:40pm On Dec 11, 2019
Today's rate in stanbic

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 4:10pm On Dec 11, 2019
ernie4life:
Bloodbath embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed

Even with the low rate that people are complaining of, the subscription is still very high and far outstrip the offer from CBN. One man's meat is another man's poison.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ernie4life(m): 4:15pm On Dec 11, 2019
NL1960:


Even with the low rate that people are complaining of, the subscription is still very high and far outstrip the offer from CBN. One man's meat is another man's poison.

You are right, that fact that it is risk free will always make it attractive to Pension fund mangers, finance firms and a few individuals

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dipoolowoo: 4:23pm On Dec 11, 2019
CBN Sells Treasury Bills at 5% at Wednesday’s Auction
https://businesspost.ng/economy/cbn-sells-treasury-bills-at-5-at-wednesdays-auction/
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Oakbranch: 4:28pm On Dec 11, 2019
[quote author=healthserve post=84803334]


Couldn't be put better... grin[/quoteDo and thjnk again, learn about the stock market space then you will know how it works.]
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:31pm On Dec 11, 2019
emmasoft:


The market is a reflection of the economy of a nation. Its dynamism is dictated by the state of the economy and policy makers. for instance you can see what is happening to Tbills rates of recent base on economic policy yet investors still buy Tbills depending on their risk tolerance, business/ real estate/ high interest bonds as you mentioned are other forms of investment. each has its place in investment world and they serve their different purpose. So the market still is a form of investment no matter how risky. All you do is to allocate your resources wisely to maximize your ROI


Are you a stock market investor? You are quite knowledgeable about the operations of the market.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Oakbranch: 4:36pm On Dec 11, 2019
[quote you are spot on.author=kryptempost=84808080]The NSE is not a total write off because people that know their onions are making it cool there. However, it is important to differentiate TRADING from INVESTING in stocks.
For anyone that wants to venture into trading, it is important that such one does his/her home work on the technicalities and fundamentals of choiced stock picks. Such one has to be well grounded. If investing is your choice, on the other hand, knowing basic fundamentals and antecedent of the company you are buying into is sacrosanct. Such individual has to define his/her purpose of investment and should be able to marry patience while at it.
Investing could be for dividend yield benefits and capital appreciation for which such investor may need to be patient enough to make a deserved kill.
So, INVESTING OR TRADING? Know the difference, define your mission and do your home work![/quote]
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Oakbranch: 4:40pm On Dec 11, 2019
[quote you are spot on.author=kryptempost=84808080]The NSE is not a total write off because people that know their onions are making it cool there. However, it is important to differentiate TRADING from INVESTING in stocks.
For anyone that wants to venture into trading, it is important that such one does his/her home work on the technicalities and fundamentals of choiced stock picks. Such one has to be well grounded. If investing is your choice, on the other hand, knowing basic fundamentals and antecedent of the company you are buying into is sacrosanct. Such individual has to define his/her purpose of investment and should be able to marry patience while at it.
Investing could be for dividend yield benefits and capital appreciation for which such investor may need to be patient enough to make a deserved kill.
So, INVESTING OR TRADING? Know the difference, define your mission and do your home work![/quote][color=#006600][/color]
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Oakbranch: 4:49pm On Dec 11, 2019
[quote author=healthserve post=84803334]


Couldn't be put better... grin[/quoteDo and thjnk again, learn about the stock market space then you will know how it works.]

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 4:54pm On Dec 11, 2019
Just2endowed2:
Today's rate in stanbic


8.37% bad but better than nothing, true yield would be around 9.4% so we remain here. until it gets below 5% we are good.

then let me sound a note of warning to all newbies/freshers, the stock market is not for children. u can see that even with the low rates, the bills are still oversubscribed. don't just jump into the stock market ,take ur time.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:55pm On Dec 11, 2019
Nigsrdumb:


Sir the market is not dynamic enough. Imagine the 5 top performers are all banks.

Where are all the other industries?

I think business/ real estate/ high interest bonds are the way to go.


The 3 companies with the highest market capitalisation are not banks.

1. Dangote cement

2. MTN Nigeria

3. Airtel Africa

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