Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by Dedetwo(m): 6:25pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
oz4real83: Countries that have nuclear technology, experience and have already been operating nuclear power plants for years are shutting down their nuclear power plants. Germany has almost shut all down. Nigeria that doesn't is planning to go into it while ignoring the enormous reserves of solar energy, gas, hydropower, coal and many more that can easily be processed to generate power. Our leaders keeps making and boasting about big plans that they can't achieve while they won't do anything about those little plans that can make a difference in the lives of the people. Poor leadership keeps killing this country. This is another reason I really want to cede from Nigeria. How can a person have bunch of goons as compatriots? I do not think that being a Nigerian is a mark of idiocy but the numbskulls in the Nigerian National Assembly are a very good argument against the stand. |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by caprini1: 6:26pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
mrphysics:
What do you know about Chernobly and Fukushima accident?
You complain of power issues and the best decision is being proposed, yet you go about talking trash of something you know nothing about.
Ghana is planning on Kickstarting one, SA is already building one, yet you don't see it as the solution to your power problems Oga genius ,if you have the wherewithal to handle and manage the Nuclear power plants for Nigeria,kindly tender your application to the right authorities and stop disturbing my mentions,since you are Mrphysics...thanks. |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by erico2k2(m): 6:26pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
mrphysics:
I see. I am on an MSc in Nuclear Engineering (Nuclear Energy production and industrial application) in France. Now, France get 75% of their electricity from Nuclear energy.
Should I still answer your question?
please do I am waiting, talk me fru how you use Nuclear Energy to generate Electricity please! |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by Daboomb: 6:26pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
Dedetwo:
This silly statement cannot stand the test of scrutiny when the nuclear source of energy is left in hands of those with some brain cells. The mere insinuation of allowing goons such as Nigerians to manage nuclear power plant is an act of homicide. If these dumbasses want to destroy some section of Nigeria, they can go ahead with such destructive dream. Few countries which are not in the same backward category such as Nigeria are dismantling their nuclear power plants for alternative power source. It is even a serious headache for the advanced countries to store nuclear waste from dismantled station. Nigeria is extremely backward and cannot even manage ordinary and harmless gutter. One wonders on mother earth how the goons from shithole could handle any slight setback from nuclear plant. Again, your worries are well founded but the mistake you are making is that those countries dismantling their Nuclear Power plants have already taken advantage of its cheap, heavy and steady Power of electricity and they are now DEVELOPED, why would they still stick ot the risk involved when they have achieved most of their aims and are now in "Maintenance Mode", which can be done with more expensive but safer energy source? Its all about the "economics and balancing of risks". Just because some are dismantling, does not mean we must copy them and not build. |
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Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by mrphysics(m): 6:27pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
Daboomb:
You may be right on your worries about SAFETY ISSUES, bearing in mind Nigerians legendary prospensity for short-cuts and tardiness but Nigerians are not from Mars and if we are to grow our economy, Power is the First Problem we must solve.
There are alternative sources of energy but take it from me that NOT ONE SINGLE INDUSTRIALISED NATION HAS BECOME INDUSTRIALISED WITHOUT HAVING AT LEAST ONE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. NOT ONE, ANDNIGERIA WONT BE AN EXCEPTION. Nuclear Power source is the fastest and the cheapest (in-terms of return on investment) source of electricity and we must embrace it, if we are to cross over to the league of industrialis(ing) nation or even "developing" nations.
What we need to do is to mitigate against the risks involved. Even Japan, despite their advancement and knack for dilligence, they still had "an accident", so it is not entirely about how dilligent we can be. We just need to seek help, make sure we deal with saboteurs (Politicians and Civil Servants who collect Bribe to subvert safety measures, by firing squad!) and deliver a safe Nuclear plant. I am not sure if Russia or China are our best options but we all know that the Europeans and Americans wont want us to have it because they see our development and advancement as innimal to their own foreign policy on theblack people, especially Nigerians because that would reudce the amount of influence they have on us and Black Africans in general, so going to them might also mean an endless wait for delivery, nto to mention their flip-flop on policies. Maybe we can have a consortium of contractors from bot "East and West" such that the "East" (Russia/China) builds, while the West (Germany, Canada or another European company) Vets and ensure safety and rule-management.
But the bottom lin eis that we need to act fast and get it built, before looting Politicians who cannot deliver the Lagos Ibadan expressway since 1999., steal the money again. You just said it all. If nuclear project must succeed in Nigeria, two things are important. 1. Get the masses properly informed Or 2. Take it away from the press |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by zibya: 6:27pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
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Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by mrphysics(m): 6:29pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
Daboomb:
Again, your worries are well founded but the mistake you are making is that those countries dismantling their Nuclear Power plants have already taken advantage of its cheap, heavy and steady Power of electricity and they are now DEVELOPED, why would they still stick ot the risk involved when they have achieved most of their aims and are now in "Maintenance Mode", which can be done with more expensive but safer energy source?
Its all about the "economics and balancing of risks". Just because some are dismantling, does not mean we must copy them and not build. China that generates its maximum energy from coal is currently building 7 nuclear plants in addition to the one they have. SA too |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by mrphysics(m): 6:31pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
erico2k2:
please do I am waiting, talk me fru how you use Nuclear Energy to generate Electricity please! I was thinking you'd be smart, but you aren't. Sorry about. I am sure you have learned alot today. Read more about the difference between Nuclear weapon and nuclear power plants. Watch TEDex too and support this gold idea from the government |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by obidark: 6:31pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
Daboomb:
You may be right on your worries about SAFETY ISSUES, bearing in mind Nigerians legendary prospensity for short-cuts and tardiness but Nigerians are not from Mars and if we are to grow our economy, Power is the First Problem we must solve.
There are alternative sources of energy but take it from me that NOT ONE SINGLE INDUSTRIALISED NATION HAS BECOME INDUSTRIALISED WITHOUT HAVING AT LEAST ONE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. NOT ONE, ANDNIGERIA WONT BE AN EXCEPTION. Nuclear Power source is the fastest and the cheapest (in-terms of return on investment) source of electricity and we must embrace it, if we are to cross over to the league of industrialis(ing) nation or even "developing" nations.
What we need to do is to mitigate against the risks involved. Even Japan, despite their advancement and knack for dilligence, they still had "an accident", so it is not entirely about how dilligent we can be. We just need to seek help, make sure we deal with saboteurs (Politicians and Civil Servants who collect Bribe to subvert safety measures, by firing squad!) and deliver a safe Nuclear plant. I am not sure if Russia or China are our best options but we all know that the Europeans and Americans wont want us to have it because they see our development and advancement as innimal to their own foreign policy on theblack people, especially Nigerians because that would reudce the amount of influence they have on us and Black Africans in general, so going to them might also mean an endless wait for delivery, nto to mention their flip-flop on policies. Maybe we can have a consortium of contractors from bot "East and West" such that the "East" (Russia/China) builds, while the West (Germany, Canada or another European company) Vets and ensure safety and rule-management.
But the bottom lin eis that we need to act fast and get it built, before looting Politicians who cannot deliver the Lagos Ibadan expressway since 1999., steal the money again. japan had a nuclear accident,and they are still alive till today.... if something bad happens,what i dont think would because of international standards and control,the area can still be evacuated and life goes on.... chernobyl is not that bad today....people are returning their.... hiroshima,people are living their today.... |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by Daboomb: 6:31pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
erico2k2:
please do I am waiting, talk me fru how you use Nuclear Energy to generate Electricity please! The "basics" can be got from any Advanced textbook on Physics but the details is not what he can teach here on Nairaland! Nuclear Fusion/Fission are advanced topics but the basics is that by splitting the atoms of radioactive nuclie Uranium,, you generate energy through conversion of matter to energy, in a Nuclear Reactor. That energy is harnessed and coverted to electricity. |
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Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by obidark: 6:32pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
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Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by mrphysics(m): 6:33pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
caprini1: Oga genius ,if you have the wherewithal to handle and manage the Nuclear power plants for Nigeria,kindly tender your application to the right authorities and stop disturbing my mentions,since you are Mrphysics...thanks. Lol, you think everyone is looking for job. You were all of the thread mentioning Fukushima and chernobyl you know nothing about |
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Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by erico2k2(m): 6:33pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
mrphysics:
I was thinking you'd be smart, but you aren't. Sorry about.
I am sure you have learned alot today.
Read more about the difference between Nuclear weapon and nuclear power plants. Watch TEDex too and support this gold idea from the government Where did I talk about Nuclear weapon?are U mixing me with someone else?I have just asked you one simple question that involves just 3 lines just three lines you are unable to answer U are here talking about learning and PhD! Tell me how you generate Electricity with a Nuclear reactor |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by obidark: 6:35pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
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Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by Dedetwo(m): 6:36pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
Daboomb:
You may be right on your worries about SAFETY ISSUES, bearing in mind Nigerians legendary prospensity for short-cuts and tardiness but Nigerians are not from Mars and if we are to grow our economy, Power is the First Problem we must solve.
There are alternative sources of energy but take it from me that NOT ONE SINGLE INDUSTRIALISED NATION HAS BECOME INDUSTRIALISED WITHOUT HAVING AT LEAST ONE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. NOT ONE, AND NIGERIA WONT BE AN EXCEPTION. Nuclear Power source is the fastest and the cheapest (in-terms of return on investment) source of electricity and we must embrace it, if we are to cross over to the league of industrialis(ing) nation or even "developing" nations.
What we need to do is to mitigate against the risks involved. Even Japan, despite their advancement and knack for dilligence, they still had "an accident", so it is not entirely about how dilligent we can be. We just need to seek help, make sure we deal with saboteurs (Politicians and Civil Servants who collect Bribe to subvert safety measures, by firing squad!) and deliver a safe Nuclear plant. I am not sure if Russia or China are our best options but we all know that the Europeans and Americans wont want us to have it because they see our development and advancement as innimal to their own foreign policy on theblack people, especially Nigerians because that would reudce the amount of influence they have on us and Black Africans in general, so going to them might also mean an endless wait for delivery, nto to mention their flip-flop on policies. Maybe we can have a consortium of contractors from bot "East and West" such that the "East" (Russia/China) builds, while the West (Germany, Canada or another European company) Vets and ensure safety and rule-management.
But the bottom lin eis that we need to act fast and get it built, before looting Politicians who cannot deliver the Lagos Ibadan expressway since 1999., steal the money again. This might be true but when faced with thorough examination, most of the countries had sufficient HYDROPOWER stations as source of power before venturing into nuclear. The issue is how many functional HYDROPOWER station does Nigeria operate? One cannot break a neck without involving the head. It is also a fact that most of these countries are on the downturn with nuclear power plants as many of stations are dismantled. |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by erico2k2(m): 6:36pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
Daboomb:
The "basics" can be got from any Advanced textbook on Physics but the details is not what he can teach here on Nairaland! ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Nuclear Fusion/Fission are advanced topics but the basics is that by splitting the atoms of radioactive nuclie Uranium,, you generate energy through conversion of matter to energy, in a Nuclear Reactor. That energy is harnessed and coverted to electricity. Im sorry to say U scored oooooo,U don't know about this topic I am afraid. This was what I think about Mrphysics as well, assumption! A Nuclear reactor generates a specific type of Energy that is used to generate electricity!in a power station! jst so U know, Nuclear reactors do not burn fuel or creat green house gases! |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by obidark: 6:37pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
mrphysics:
Lol, you think everyone is looking for job.
You were all of the thread mentioning Fukushima and chernobyl you know nothing about thats why they are so gullible that people like ipob and cownunu could deceive them so easily.... imagine a complete looser like cownunu could convince them to bow to him because of wharever.... |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by caprini1: 6:37pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
mrphysics:
Lol, you think everyone is looking for job.
You were all of the thread mentioning Fukushima and chernobyl you know nothing about In trying to sound like a genius you just showed your dumbness.....did you see me mention Fukushima ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) . I know your type and always ate you up for lunch while in school.Dont expect me to start competing with you in a public forum ,where i only come to have fun....cheers mate. |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by obidark: 6:39pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
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Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by caprini1: 6:41pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
erico2k2:
Where did I talk about Nuclear weapon?are U mixing me with someone else?I have just asked you one simple question that involves just 3 lines just three lines you are unable to answer U are here talking about learning and PhD! Tell me how you generate Electricity with a Nuclear reactor Leave that looser bro....because his moniker is mrphysics he thinks he knows physics....mrphysics of nairaland ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by obidark: 6:41pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
caprini1: In trying to sound like a genius you just showed your dumbness.....did you see me mention Fukushima . I know your type and always ate you up for lunch while in school.Dont expect me to start competing with you in a public forum ,where i only come to have fun....cheers mate. i dont care about the details,i just want enough energie available.... |
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Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by Dedetwo(m): 6:45pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
Daboomb:
Again, your worries are well founded but the mistake you are making is that those countries dismantling their Nuclear Power plants have already taken advantage of its cheap, heavy and steady Power of electricity and they are now DEVELOPED, why would they still stick ot the risk involved when they have achieved most of their aims and are now in "Maintenance Mode", which can be done with more expensive but safer energy source?
Its all about the "economics and balancing of risks". Just because some are dismantling, does not mean we must copy them and not build. Bros you failed to mention that most of the countries had forayed into HYDROPOWER stations as source of energy before taking any step towards nuclear. Nigeria must learn from those who had been to hell. The issue of nuclear plant cannot be left in hands of goons such as Nigerians. It surely will create real estate nobody can enter for 100 years which is half life of radioactive material. Nigeria cannot afford losing Kogi, Benue, Enugu, Taraba, Cross River and Akwa Ibom states on single misstep in nuclear power located in Kogi or Cross River states for 200 years. The radioactive mess is real and not religious sermon. |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by erico2k2(m): 6:47pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
obidark:
both of you are silly....how you generate energie from nuclear plants.... that is a very silly question....
a expert wouldnt even bother to answer you sef.... Why dnt U tell us? cos its really hard to explain in three lines from what I can gather, people assume way too much in the same vein a guy told me crude OIL was BLACK! |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by obidark: 6:47pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
biafra passport,biafra car plates biafran pounds....
chai....
and na the same people wan talk into nigerias matters.... |
Re: Nigerian Senate Makes Case For Nuclear Energy by mrphysics(m): 6:48pm On Dec 12, 2019 |
erico2k2:
Where did I talk about Nuclear weapon?are U mixing me with someone else?I have just asked you one simple question that involves just 3 lines just three lines you are unable to answer U are here talking about learning and PhD! Tell me how you generate Electricity with a Nuclear reactor If I answer your question, won't you think I am as dumb as you are ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) You that don't even know what is LEU and HEU. You don't even know when a nuclear Fuel is classified as enriched or low. You know nothing about the research reactor in Nigeria and how it operated. Same you that now want to ask me question about Nuclear Energy? ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |