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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 5:33pm On Dec 12, 2019
coluka:

Steele's political bias against Trump which the FBI confirmed that as of 2016, he was "desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being the U.S. president."
okay, maybe you can help with a video recording of the IG's testimony to the senate then, or a verbatim transcript
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 6:01pm On Dec 12, 2019
GalaticHorde:
give me the reference from the report, page and paragraph
GalaticHorde:
okay, maybe you can help with a video recording of the IG's testimony to the senate then, or a verbatim transcript

Read chapter eight of the report,
especially Pages 233 and 234

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by doitforyou(f): 1:54am On Dec 13, 2019
cococandy:
grin

I thought I was going crazy. When people argue for Trump. Argh
It doesn’t make sense at all.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 3:26am On Dec 13, 2019
The House Judiciary Committee has been holding today's session for over 12 hours! And they are currently taking a 30-minute break
These folks have great stamina sha shocked
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:06am On Dec 13, 2019
In other news Nadler has postponed the impeachment vote.
Most likely some number of
Dems have gotten cold feet owing to

The massive win by the British deplorables
The trade deal with China Phase one
The USMCA about to be ratified
A strong economy
Dems in 31 states which Trump carried
Fatigue from the whole sham process
Demand by Deplorables for senate trial where
Schiff,Ciaramella,Chalupa ,bidens subpoenas

Deplorables unite. The French PM was heard saying that France would exit the EU given a choice to vote.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 8:46am On Dec 13, 2019
basilico:
In other news Nadler has postponed the impeachment vote.
Most likely some number of
Dems have gotten cold feet owing to

The massive win by the British deplorables
The trade deal with China Phase one
The USMCA about to be ratified
A strong economy
Dems in 31 states which Trump carried
Fatigue from the whole sham process
Demand by Deplorables for senate trial where
Schiff,Ciaramella,Chalupa ,bidens subpoenas

Deplorables unite. The French PM was heard saying that France would exit the EU given a choice to vote.
So much winning

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:58am On Dec 13, 2019
UPDATE: Postponed to Friday today 10.00 AM Eastern Time.


basilico:
In other news Nadler has postponed the impeachment vote.
Most likely some number of
Dems have gotten cold feet owing to

The massive win by the British deplorables
The trade deal with China Phase one
The USMCA about to be ratified
A strong economy
Dems in 31 states which Trump carried
Fatigue from the whole sham process
Demand by Deplorables for senate trial where
Schiff,Ciaramella,Chalupa ,bidens subpoenas

Deplorables unite. The French PM was heard saying that France would exit the EU given a choice to vote.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 9:14am On Dec 13, 2019
The Second Referendum has confirmed the First. Will fascist Remoaners want a Third?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 9:50am On Dec 13, 2019
Liberal's delusions have collided with reality in the UK and their lamentations have begun. Let the sweet tears flow grin

Congrats Boris Johnson, you did it!!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 1:56pm On Dec 13, 2019
obixcel:
So much winning
And more to come

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 4:36pm On Dec 13, 2019
Lol, they are already blaming the Russians grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 12:53am On Dec 14, 2019
coluka:
Liberal's delusions have collided with reality in the UK and their lamentations have begun. Let the sweet tears flow grin

Congrats Boris Johnson, you did it!!!

You want to compare Boris Johnson with your dump racist criminal? You want to compare the Republican party controlled by nazis, white supremacists and religious bigots with the British conservative party? The difference are as clear as day and night.

Boris Johnson is a brilliant politician with decades of experience.
Boris Johnson have very little scandal (only his tumultuous love life) to his name.
Boris Johnson has zero crime allegations to his name. His taxes are intact.

All the polls predicted a conservative win, so no surprise here. The labour party did not have a clear message. Jeremy Corbyn was drab and uninspirational. I wonder why he has not resigned. As much liberal as I am, I did not find the labour party and Jeremy Corbyn inspirational.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:58am On Dec 14, 2019
wirinet:

You want to compare Boris Johnson with your dump racist criminal? You want to compare the Republican party controlled by nazis, white supremacists and religious bigots with the British conservative party? The difference are as clear as day and night.

Boris Johnson is a brilliant politician with decades of experience.
Boris Johnson have very little scandal (only his tumultuous love life) to his name.
Boris Johnson has zero crime allegations to his name. His taxes are intact.

All the polls predicted a conservative win, so no surprise here. The labour party did not have a clear message. Jeremy Corbyn was drab and uninspirational. I wonder why he has not resigned. As much liberal as I am, I did not find the labour party and Jeremy Corbyn inspirational.
Suck it grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 1:03am On Dec 14, 2019
obixcel:
Suck it grin
Trump can only become president of a country like the US, where the media (and the Russians ) hold sway. In the UK, France and even China, a neophyte with zero experience in government (apart from numerous failed businesses), with many criminal allegations, can never rise to be a councillor, not to talk of a president or prime minister.

The quality of the US president had been going down for about 2 decades. From an actor (Ronald Reagan) to Bush senior (at least he was CIA director ) to Clinton, then to Bush junior (spoilt brat that used his father's influence) to Obama ( even Obama had just about 7 years experience as a senator with zero executive experience). To me the worst is Trump.

In the near future, these series of bad executive and general political leadership will take a toll on US. Forget the stock market and strong economy. It's the result of decades of momentum that is eventually slowing down. US infrastructure is not improving, the education is not improving, foreign expertrates that drive a significant part of technology and the economy are being driven out by Trump. It's only a matter of time before all these bad decisions will start taking a toll.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 1:14am On Dec 14, 2019
And just as I thought, Pelosi confessed her sins that this Impeachment had been in the pipeline for the past Two and the half years grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 1:16am On Dec 14, 2019
wirinet:

Trump can only become president of a country like the US, where the media (and the Russians ) hold sway. In the UK, France and even China, a neophyte with zero experience in government (apart from numerous failed businesses), with many criminal allegations, can never rise to be a councillor, not to talk of a president or prime minister.
oh..sorry dear, It's always the Russians to blame... Oh look! The Russians are coming!! run for cover grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 1:30am On Dec 14, 2019
obixcel:
oh..sorry dear, It's always the Russians to blame... Oh look! The Russians are coming!! run for cover grin
It's not me or the Democrats that blamed the Russians, it's all the intelligence agencies in the US.
Intelligence Chiefs 'Stand More Resolutely' Behind Finding Of Russia Election Hacking

Intelligence agency leaders repeated their determination Thursday that only "the senior most officials" in Russia could have authorized recent hacks into Democratic National Committee and Clinton officials' emails during the presidential election.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper affirmed an Oct. 7 joint statement from 17 intelligence agencies that the Russian government directed the election interference
https://www.npr.org/2017/01/05/508355408/intelligence-chiefs-stand-more-resolutely-behind-finding-of-russia-election-hack

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 2:02am On Dec 14, 2019
Hillary Clinton literally bought warrant, first in the history of the United states.
coluka:
To all those trying to gaslight and
claim the IG report found no
wrongdoing by the FBI,

The IG report revealed that The FBI:

Relied on fake Clinton-funded Steele dossier to target the Trump campaign.

Knew dossier was complete bunk by January 2017 and yet they kept suggesting otherwise to continue using it to seek spy warrants

Deceived and lied to the FISA court

Abused the FISA process

used a confidential human source to interact with and record conversations with Trump affiliates (Spying)

Doctored documents

Hid exculpatory evidence

Suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source

Had no good explanation for these misconducts

Was rife with widespread wrongdoing


Anyone who would still defend these is either deceiving himself or just plain stupid

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 3:16am On Dec 14, 2019
Not just that, Horowitz reports based on the few documents he found (others are mostly hidden from him by the FBI swamp) he only went by what he has access to. Though an Obama appointee who will rather call 'lies' misleading or 'bias' errors, he didn't try to hide the little he found or do cover ups like Bob Muller. The part many missed is that Horowitz didn't say there was no bias but said there was no "documented bias" as if the deepstate operatives in FBI would write down their bias, he testified in Senate that there was clear bias but was just not documented in the report he found. The issue of predicate was also inaccurate because Horowitz worked with emails evidence he got from may 31 with the opening of crossfire hurricane investigation on July 31 based on Papadopoulos and Downing conversation on July 24, when the actual case had been opened way before then, with Carter Page a CIA asset being labeled Russian agent just to destroy Trump's campaign. Anyway, Durham and Barr will tie up the loose ends soon for even the worst dummy to understand.

Another thing is, Horowitz referred James Comey for criminal prosecution in Sept but the DOJ refused to take it up cos they want his case to pile up. Horowitz also exposed the FBI lawyer that altered exculpatory documents about Carter Page. In all, I think Horowitz tried when you know the evil he faced in deepstate.

coluka:
Catching up on IG Horowitz Senate hearing and It’s got so bad for James Comey and the fake news media's narratives that CNN and MSNBC stopped covering the hearings live. They can't afford to let their plantation niggers find out the truth grin

for example this answer by Horowitz,

Graham: Comey says he's vindicated by your report. True?

Horowitz: "The activities we found don't vindicate anyone who touched this."

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 3:35am On Dec 14, 2019
She had to, her son Paul is facing similar allegation as Biden and she's feeling the heat, though that could have been from the same Democrats just as the Biden video was released. The Democrats want to sacrifice a rookie-Biden to take down the King-Trump but it won't work. If you remember very well, the birther movement was lunched by the Clinton in 2008 to kill Obama candidacy, before Trump and others took it over. Just as the same Russia/Obama dossier was already used on McCain in 2008 and could have been bad for the late senator if not for Bush who refused to be part of it and quickly alerted McCain campaign. Pelosi could be playing the deepstate according to some quarters and when you add it all up, she's helluva game! Think about it! She knew the impeachment will go no where yet she championed it after slowing it down for months and laying down why it had to be bipartisan with evidence. And she has since be giving out the deepstate card every step of the way to make Democrats look bad
obixcel:
And just as I thought, Pelosi confessed her sins that this Impeachment had been in the pipeline for the past Two and the half years grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 6:53pm On Dec 15, 2019
Hardcore leftists are die-hard fanatics, but this one is beyond hilarious. Jeremy just said he won the Argument (while Boris won the Election). Please who knows if he has yet collected the keys to the Argument House? And before he takes up official residence there, may he lend that his Marxist Manifesto to his American ideological soulmates (complete with tax tax spend spend...we'll provide all things free and...hell yes, Billionaires Should Not Exist). The American Corbynists can then only attach the GreenNoDeal and present the entire package of lunacy to voters, hoping it works against Trump (as it worked against Boris). grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 6:28am On Dec 16, 2019
Democratic House member, Van Drew, defects to the Republican Party.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lush100(m): 8:14am On Dec 16, 2019
That's the result of the impeachment. grin grin grin shocked shocked shocked

Just because they don't like Trump , they decided to create self-made evidence to get rid of him.
lets be clear .. sometimes i don't like the manner of Trumps use of language and some remarks on women but i like his determination of goals he set out to achieve for the American people(the economy) and he was very clear about that.
During his campaign the said US and China had an unbalance trade deal and he tried to do something about it using every negotiating skill he had.



obixcel:
Democratic House member, Van Drew, defects to the Republican Party.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:42am On Dec 16, 2019
Trump Derangement Syndrome exists. All I see is Trump trying his damn best to improve the economy, bring back jobs, renegotiate bad trade deals all for the betterment of Americans. Yet the Dems are doing their best to derail him.
And now even impeach him over a nuthi burger.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:57am On Dec 16, 2019
wirinet:

It's not me or the Democrats that blamed the Russians, it's all the intelligence agencies in the US.


The Intelligence Community Assessment was made by only 4 3 letter agencies. Not 17.
Get your facts right.

CIA,FBI, NSA and DNI. NSA head Mike Rogers only gave moderate confidence . After elections he went to Trump Towers on Nov 17 to meet Trump. Trump immediately moved his transition team to New Jersey from Trump Towers. most likely Rogers told Trump that he was being surveilled.
Two days later Brennan and Clapper were pushing for Mike Rogers firing.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by itchie: 2:59pm On Dec 16, 2019
The Clinton Crime Family exposed again......

The Clinton Foundation accepted a $1 million gift from Qatar while Hillary Clinton was U.S. secretary of state without informing the State Department. Qatari officials pledged the money to mark the 65th birthday of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton's husband.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN12Z2SL?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 10:06pm On Dec 16, 2019
New Stock Market high!!!
US economy shakes free of recession fears. Just four months ago, some economists saw a 50% chance of a downturn. But now the US economy is heading into 2020 with a head of steam and recession fears have faded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/12/15/us-economy-shakes-free-recession-fears-striking-turnaround-since-august/#click=https:///y0uD8DuIC9

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 11:30pm On Dec 16, 2019
British Far-Leftists were so buthurt at Boris Johnson's Victory that they protested - screaming, "Not my Prime Minister" Lol...I think we saw this before in 2016 after Trump won, They screamed, "Not my President" D grin Liberals are d same everywhere in each Country they congregate. The recent UK Election is just a preview of what is to come in 2020 similar to 2016..can't wait.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:53am On Dec 17, 2019
itchie:
The Clinton Crime Family exposed again......

The Clinton Foundation accepted a $1 million gift from Qatar while Hillary Clinton was U.S. secretary of state without informing the State Department. Qatari officials pledged the money to mark the 65th birthday of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton's husband.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN12Z2SL?
So it's now about Clinton's and no longer about Hunter and Joe Biden? I had thought Trump's defence on why he blackmailed the Ukrainian president to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden was because Hunter Biden commited a crime in Ukraine, now you guys are adding another defence of Clinton committing a crime in Qatar.

It will be an interesting senate trial. The senate would try Joe and Biden Biden, Hillary Clinton, Adam Schiff and probably Obama instead of Trump. So finding any of them gully automatically means Trump is innocent.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:22pm On Dec 17, 2019
Mad Maxine Walters grin grin doesn't have the facts or proof but would like you to believe in her own made up theories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LER7DgOpdA&list=WL&index=9&t=0s

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 7:17pm On Dec 17, 2019
More than 700 historians sign letter calling for House to impeach Trump

HISTORIANS’ STATEMENT ON THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP

We are American historians devoted to studying our nation’s past who have concluded that Donald J. Trump has violated his oath to “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States” and to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” His “attempts to subvert the Constitution,” as George Mason described impeachable offenses at the Constitutional Convention in 1787, urgently and justly require his impeachment.
President Trump’s numerous and flagrant abuses of power are precisely what the Framers had in mind as grounds for impeaching and removing a president. Among those most hurtful to the Constitution have been his attempts to coerce the country of Ukraine, under attack from Russia, an adversary power to the United States, by withholding essential military assistance in exchange for the fabrication and legitimization of false information in order to advance his own re-election.
President Trump’s lawless obstruction of the House of Representatives, which is rightly seeking documents and witness testimony in pursuit of its constitutionally-mandated oversight role, has demonstrated brazen contempt for representative government. So have his attempts to justify that obstruction on the grounds that the executive enjoys absolute immunity, a fictitious doctrine that, if tolerated, would turn the president into an elected monarch above the law.

https://medium.com/@historiansonimpeachment/historians-statement-on-the-impeachment-of-president-trump-6e4ed2277b16
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:04am On Dec 18, 2019
wirinet:
More than 700 historians sign letter calling for House to impeach Trump


Let's admit that the media does not like Trump and actively blows out of proportion any thing he says or does.
Clinton got over 65m votes . It's a breeze for her to get 700 of her supporters most likely her donors to write anything.

Obstruction of Congress is a made up crime. Trump asserted executive privellege and requested his colleagues not to appear before the witchunt committee led by Schiff. He went to thecourts seeking an interpretation . Schiff does not want to wait for the court, because they badly need to impeach the president on Wednesday.
Going to the third branch of govt is now an obstruction of Congress and now is an impeachable offence.


In the case of abuse of power The Ukrainian President said he was not blackmailed. But the Dems say that Trump coerced him. The transcript of the call is out And nowhere does it imply blackmail , only that the media reporting selectively edited the call.

Joe Biden got paid 900000 USD for lobbying on behalf of Ukraine. Hunter Biden was being paid 1m USD by Burisma per year for 3 plus years just for seating on its board. He never travelled to Ukraine by the way so how can I be a board member and never even travel to the main theatre of operations, never mind that he had been just been kicked out of the Navy over drugs a month before he was made a board member.Hunter can't even speak Ukrainian. Victor Shokin was sacked because he was investigating Burisma and had also frozen some of its assets. In Feb 2016 Latvia authorities notified Ukraine that they had flagged some transactions thru their financial system from Burisma to Hunter Biden and three other Burisma board members. Then in March 2016 Biden forced Shokin out by threatening to withhold aid if Shokin was not fired. Joe gave them 6 hours to fire him or the aid 1b USD would be withdrawn. There is a video of him bragging how they had to fire the son of a bitch ie Victor Shokin.

4 witnesses including Shokin were denied visa to America by the US ambassador.Shokin was also poisoned twice. The US ambassador gave The New prosecutor a do not investigate list. The aid delivered to Ukraine was by advice from Yavanovich the ambassador who testified the other day was also being funneled to a George Soros NGO active in Ukraine.

In addition Obama sent Ukraine blankets and biscuits instead of lethal aid. Which Trump did this year. Dems are claiming that withholding of vital aid that Obama never provided is detrimental to America's national security.

Wirinet with all respect does Bidens action required the president to demand investigations ?


Facts don't lie, the truth is slowly creeping out.
What is corruption in your esteemed opinion?

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