After praying every morning, I read my bible to gain more knowledge. So I have few questions and I want people that are deep into bible study to help me out.

In the book of Genesis,

Genesis chapter 1 vs 26

“then God said let’s make man in “our” own image, according to “our” likeness”

Q. Who was God referring to as “our” when He alone was and is the only God??

Q 2. If God created man in His own image, does it mean man was once like God or should I say man was God on earth?


1 vs 27 to 29, the creation of man was narrated here.

2 vs 15 to 25, the creation of Adam and Eve was narrated here.

Q. Is the creation of Adam and Eve same as the creation of man in genesis chapter 1 vs 27 to 29?

Reason why I’m asking the question is, the first creation of man narrated in Genesis 1vs27-29 seems not to go into much details until Adam and Eve’s creation.


Genesis 2vs8

Why did God plant the tree of evil in the garden that was supposed to be heaven on earth? When He knew man has a weakness and where was God when the serpent made Eve eat from the tree of evil? Also why did God put the serpent in the Garden of Eden when He knew the serpent was evil and bound to corrupt God’s creation?


Genesis chapter 3vs11, Adam was quick to shift blame to Eve. Typical of mankind. (Still happens till date)

Again in genesis chapter 3vs22, God said “behold, the man has become one of “us” to know good and evil.

God made use of the word “us” again.

In the beginning/creation, no other being, Angel, God was made mention of but only Him. Then who are the “us” He talked about?

Genesis chapter 3vs19, God cursed Adam “in the sweat of your face, you shall eat bread till you return to the ground for out of it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you shall return”

Q. If Adam and Eve had not eaten of the evil tree, does this mean mankind will not know death but live forever on earth? If yes, what happens to the world ever increasing population??


Q 2. What would have become of mankind if Adam and Eve had not eaten from the evil tree?

Reason for this last question is, if Adam and Eve was so easy to manipulate and made to eat from the evil tree by a mere serpent right inside the Garden of Eden, this means God’s creation(man) was ALREADY vulnerable(FLAW) even before eating the forbidden fruit.

PLEASE your contributions are very welcomed!! I’m learning. Pardon my moniker.

Q1 the 'our' is the Trinity.

Q2 No, of you see your image in a mirror it doesn't mean the image is you. It just an image of you.

ABCthingx:
Q1 the 'our' is the Trinity.

wow!! Thanks, I’ll read more on this.

ABCthingx:
Q2 No, of you see your image in a mirror it doesn't mean the image is you. It just an image of you.

interesting......I’m following

stupidity:
interesting......I’m following

Coming back later. Hopefully I've to fix somethings offline.

ABCthingx:
Coming back later. Hopefully I've to fix somethings offline.

alright. I’m waiting, thanks for you time. Really appreciate.

ABCthingx:
Q1 the 'our' is the Trinity.

Wrong

SamjohnnyB:

Wrong

Explain!!!

Sir, let me first commend you for asking this question, because only atheists or serious believers ask such questions(I don't know which you are, if you are of God, you should immediately change that profile pic). However, one thing I usually suggest to believers, is ask every question possible, expecting a satisfactory answer to come at some point, yet don't expect that any bible scholar(no matter how knowledgeable), or your personal study ALONE will give you all accurate and satisfactory answers, because we all being imperfect only know in part(1Cor13:9,12). For perfect and satisfactory knowledge, we must learn to rely on the Spirit(1Cor2:10-16) i.e. invest in growing your relationship with Him, following him step by step until at some point(patience is required), He leads us into all truth. (Jn14:26, Jn16:13)
Now, to your question, here is a piece from my answer to another on a similar subject. Hope you find it helpful. Further questions are welcomed.
Adam never had the nature of God(image of God), which is the Word of God Himself (Heb 1:3) but was only made in God's likeness(resemblance in looks, design, structure and form) as the account was careful to specify(Gen 5:1). Had he had God's nature neither he nor eve would have been victims of Satan's deception, just like the Word Himself(Mt 4:3-11) proved. To give one God's nature(image/character/attribute) is to take away one's unique identity from him, which defeats the purpose of creation. You may ask about Gen 1:26, then. Take this(Gen 1:1-2:3) to be a different frame of existence only structuring than what actually happened on earth as we know it today(which began in Gen 2:4). The created objects mentioned in (Gen 1) are Divine figures of speech and the man in v26 is actually Christ not Adam, the male being Christ and the female being the bride of Christ. In the Hebrew, the word for Man(v26) and Adam are two very related words with the same spelling except the addition of an tittle on one of the letters and hence a slightly different pronunciation. In other words though Adam was symbolic of the man in v26, he isn't that man.

Finallydead:
Sir, let me first commend you for asking this question, because only atheists or serious believers ask such questions(I don't know which you are, if you are of God, you should immediately change that profile pic). However, one thing I usually suggest to believers, is ask every question possible, expecting a satisfactory answer to come at some point, yet don't expect that any bible scholar(no matter how knowledgeable), or your personal study ALONE will give you all accurate and satisfactory answers, because we all being imperfect only know in part(1Cor13:9,12). For perfect and satisfactory knowledge, we must learn to rely on the Spirit(1Cor2:10-16) i.e. invest in growing your relationship with Him, following him step by step until at some point(patience is required), He leads us into all truth. (Jn14:26, Jn16:13)
Now, to your question, here is a piece from my answer to another on a similar subject. Hope you find it helpful. Further questions are welcomed.
Adam never had the nature of God(image of God), which is the Word of God Himself (Heb 1:3) but was only made in God's likeness(resemblance in looks, design, structure and form) as the account was careful to specify(Gen 5:1). Had he had God's nature neither he nor eve would have been victims of Satan's deception, just like the Word Himself(Mt 4:3-11) proved. To give one God's nature(image/character/attribute) is to take away one's unique identity from him, which defeats the purpose of creation. You may ask about Gen 1:26, then. Take this(Gen 1:1-2:3) to be a different frame of existence only structuring than what actually happened on earth as we know it today(which began in Gen 2:4). The created objects mentioned in (Gen 1) are Divine figures of speech and the man in v26 is actually Christ not Adam, the male being Christ and the female being the bride of Christ. In the Hebrew, the word for Man(v26) and Adam are two very related words with the same spelling except the addition of an tittle on one of the letters and hence a slightly different pronunciation. In other words though Adam was symbolic of the man in v26, he isn't that man.

bible teachings is deeper than I think. How can one sit alone and study Bible to gain all this knowledge

Thanks for your contribution. I got it all clearly now.

I hope you don’t mind me mentioning you when I find more complex verses that needs more explanation??

stupidity:
After praying every morning, I read my bible to gain more knowledge. So I have few questions and I want people that are deep into bible study to help me out.

In the book of Genesis,

Genesis chapter 1 vs 26

“then God said let’s make man in “our” own image, according to “our” likeness”

(1)Q. Who was God referring to as “our” when He alone was and is the only God??

(2)Q. If God created man in His own image, does it mean man was once like God or should I say man was God on earth?


1 vs 27 to 29, the creation of man was narrated here.

2 vs 15 to 25, the creation of Adam and Eve was narrated here.

(3)Q. Is the creation of Adam and Eve same as the creation of man in genesis chapter 1 vs 27 to 29?

Reason why I’m asking the question is, the first creation of man narrated in Genesis 1vs27-29 seems not to go into much details until Adam and Eve’s creation.


Genesis 2vs8

Why did God plant the tree of evil in the garden that was supposed to be heaven on earth? When He knew man has a weakness and where was God when the serpent made Eve eat from the tree of evil? Also why did God put the serpent in the Garden of Eden when He knew the serpent was evil and bound to corrupt God’s creation?


Genesis chapter 3vs11, Adam was quick to shift blame to Eve. Typical of mankind. (Still happens till date)

Again in genesis chapter 3vs22, God said “behold, the man has become one of “us” to know good and evil.

God made use of the word “us” again.

In the beginning/creation, no other being, Angel, God was made mention of but only Him. Then who are the “us” He talked about?

Genesis chapter 3vs19, God cursed Adam “in the sweat of your face, you shall eat bread till you return to the ground for out of it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you shall return”

(4)Q. If Adam and Eve had not eaten of the evil tree, does this mean mankind will not know death but live forever on earth? If yes, what happens to the world ever increasing population??


(5)Q. What would have become of mankind if Adam and Eve had not eaten from the evil tree?

Reason for this last question is, if Adam and Eve was so easy to manipulate and made to eat from the evil tree by a mere serpent right inside the Garden of Eden, this means God’s creation(man) was ALREADY vulnerable(FLAW) even before eating the forbidden fruit.

PLEASE your contributions are very welcomed!! I’m learning. Pardon my moniker.

Five questions in all!

(1) God wasn't alone during the creation of heaven and earth. Before other things God first made a spirit being {Colossians 1:15-16} who was working beside him as a master craftsman {Proverbs 8:22,30}, this was the one later referred to as the WORD who also served as God{John 1:1} But he directed all glory and honour to the one who made him and gave him all that he had! John 20:17

(2) Image here refers to attributes not structure!
Of all the creatures made on earth, only one had God's attributes like
Power think and do great things
Wisdom plan ahead for future
Justice distinguish right and wrong
Love appreciate live of other creatures
Mercy overlook the shortcomings of others

No other creature have these Godly (virtuous) qualities except humans!

(3)Genesis 1 is a short summary while two came to specify who is greater between the two specie of humans male and female! So God added the accounts in chapter 2 to make humans know the reason why man and woman must come together and who is to take the lead in decision making! Genesis 2:15-25

(4)Yes Adam and Eve wouldn't have grown old neither die, then the population will be slower than ever because each man and his wife will continue to enjoy their youthfulness for thousands of years before thinking of procreation. Unlike now that each person is speeding to have children in fear that they're going to expire! We can confirm this in the Bible accounts to see how long people do stay before thinking of having children {Genesis 5:4,8}

(5) Adam purposely chose to be independent of God's guidance, but if he has had children before eating of the forbidden fruit, God wouldn't have permitted this infected couple to bear any child afterwards because such a child will die like Adam and Eve! They would have enjoyed the food, friendship, explore the earth, had great sex but the ability to procreate won't be available for them!

So they would have lived to see their uninfected children remain ever youthful while they themselves are growing old and weak until they expire and it would have served as a warning to the entire human race!

Adam and Eve were PERFECT creatures just like angels, there was nothing to make them fear like sickness, infection, natural disaster or death of any kind! They chose to rebel against their Creator, that's why he also deprive them of the antidote of death! Genesis 3:22-24

Today there is GOOD NEWS!

God promised to make the tree of life grow again so that obedient mankind can eat to neutralize the venom of death in us! Revelations 22:2

What you need to do so that you too may benefit from God's undeserved kindness (grace) is discussed every week in the Christian congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, that's why they're always coming to invite you to study God's word with them and become part of the happy global family of peace loving worshippers that Jesus fervently prayed to his father to make possible! John 17:20-23

We are ever ready to help you learn about the past, present and future of mankind! Matthew 28:19-20

God bless you!

Maximus69:


Five questions in all!

(1) God wasn't alone during the creation of heaven and earth. Before other things God first made a spirit being {Colossians 1:15-16} who was working beside him as a master craftsman {Proverbs 8:22,30}, this was the one later referred to as the WORD who also served as God{John 1:1} But he directed all glory and honour to the one who made him and gave him all that he had! John 20:17

(2) Image here refers to attributes not structure!
Of all the creatures made on earth, only one had God's attributes like
Power think and do great things
Wisdom plan ahead for future
Justice distinguish right and wrong
Love appreciate live of other creatures
Mercy overlook the shortcomings of others

No other creature have these Godly (virtuous) qualities except humans!

(3)Genesis 1 is a short summary while two came to specify who is greater between the two specie of humans male and female! So God added the accounts in chapter 2 to make humans know the reason why man and woman must come together and who is to take the lead in decision making! Genesis 2:15-25

(4)Yes Adam and Eve wouldn't have grown old neither die, then the population will be slower than ever because each man and his wife will continue to enjoy their youthfulness for thousands of years before thinking of procreation. Unlike now that each person is speeding to have children in fear that they're going to expire! We can confirm this in the Bible accounts to see how long people do stay before thinking of having children {Genesis 5:4,8}

(5) Adam purposely chose to be independent of God's guidance, but if he has had children before eating of the forbidden fruit, God wouldn't have permitted this infected couple to bear any child afterwards because such a child will die like Adam and Eve! They would have enjoyed the food, friendship, explore the earth, had great sex but the ability to procreate won't be available for them!

So they would have lived to see their uninfected children remain ever youthful while they themselves are growing old and weak until they expire and it would have served as a warning to the entire human race!

Adam and Eve were PERFECT creatures just like angels, there was nothing to make them fear like sickness, infection, natural disaster or death of any kind! They chose to rebel against their Creator, that's why he also deprive them of the antidote of death! Genesis 3:22-24

Today there is GOOD NEWS!

God promised to make the tree of life grow again so that obedient mankind can eat to neutralize the venom of death in us! Revelations 22:2

What you need to do so that you too may benefit from God's undeserved kindness (grace) is discussed every week in the Christian congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, that's why they're always coming to invite you to study God's word with them and become part of the happy global family of peace loving worshippers that Jesus fervently prayed to his father to make possible! John 17:20-23

We are ever ready to help you learn about the past, present and future of mankind! Matthew 28:19-20

God bless you!

thank you very much for this. It really helped.


Question please; why did God put the serpent inside the garden of Eden when he knew it would corrupt His human creature? And how did this evil serpent come about and lived Right inside the beautifully crafted Garden of Eden?


Also would the world we live in advance very fast at this pace if human birth was slow and no death rate?

Most times I do think the world we live in was/is programmed to work this way, I mean death, birth, grow old etc. not minding if Adam ate the apple or not.


Mind my use of language and words. I’m not too good at using big words. Thanks for your time. I recently started studying the Bible. Boy!! I can’t get all this knowledge on my own. Going to church? I’m tired of hearing about paying money and more money. Please attend to the questions above. I really appreciate your time.

stupidity:
bible teachings is deeper than I think. How can one sit alone and study Bible to gain all this knowledge

Thanks for your contribution. I got it all clearly now.

I hope you don’t mind me mentioning you when I find more complex verses that needs more explanation??

Oh no problem at all. Can you please do something about your profile pic, it's offensive. Thanks

Finallydead:

Oh no problem at all. Can you please do something about the porn on your profile pic, it's offensive and will cause some to stumble.

it’s been there and forgotten since early this year. for educating me free of charge, I’ll remove it.. sorry for my stupidity lol.

stupidity:
thank you very much for this. It really helped.


(1)Question please; why did God put the serpent inside the garden of Eden when he knew it would corrupt His human creature? And how did this evil serpent come about and lived Right inside the beautifully crafted Garden of Eden?


(2)Also would the world we live in advance very fast at this pace if human birth was slow and no death rate?

Most times I do think the world we live in was/is programmed to work this way, I mean death, birth, grow old etc. not minding if Adam ate the apple or not.


Mind my use of language and words. I’m not too good at using big words. Thanks for your time. I recently started studying the Bible. Boy!! I can’t get all this knowledge on my own. Going to church? I’m tired of hearing about paying money and more money. Please attend to the questions above. I really appreciate your time.

(1) Serpent simply means snake!

So when God put man and woman inside the garden, there was no animal missing. The scriptures even said Adam named all the creatures in the garden including (woman) Genesis 2:20-23

A powerful spirit son of God possessed the snake and that's why the animal could speak and reason. God rained curses upon this creature, a careful study of the DNA and skeleton of snakes indicates that this animals originally had FOUR LEGS but scientists can't explain why those legs disappeared!
Later the spirit that manipulated the snake to speak was identified amongst God's heavenly host as Satan {Job 1:6} and this is a proof that Satan was also one of the angels in heaven before he left his assignment to come and perpetrate evil in the garden of Eden!
All these you can't learn on social media, that's why i'll implore you to welcome one of Jehovah's Witnesses to have a free home Bible study!

(2)The advancement will be determined by our united force. Remember that if there is no death, we will have all the time, strength, resources and support of our heavenly father to explore our domain!
Unitedly we will make this planet a Paradise as we continue extending the boarders of Eden with all our discoveries like electronics, mechanical gadgets of all sort!
The continuity of technological advancement will be faster as none amongst those who discover each good thing will die, all of them will together live as youths!

You'll notice that the advancement of technology was at its fastest pace during the last century!
This is the result of what was recorded in the Bible book of Revelation 12:9-12.
Jesus began ruling in heaven in 1914, he drove away Satan and all other rebellious spirits (demons), they came down direct to the earth and began possessing people, that's why humans were able to discover so much during the twentieth century!
Soon Jesus will extend his righteous rule to the earth, that's when the prayer he taught us will be answered!
"Our father who lives in heaven, let you name be sanctified, let your kingdom (government) come, so that your will (plan) will take place on planet earth as it is happening now in heaven" Matthew 6:9-10

Just welcome one of Jehovah's Witnesses and ask for a personal free home Bible study, before you do so, you need to bear in mind that those coming to teach you are humans like you and they're also facing the stress and hardship of this wicked generation.
Please don't expect perfection from them!

What they're doing is NOT NORMAL! Under normal circumstances, nobody will spare his/her time to come visiting you uninvited without pay!

So what's energizing them to come rendering this selfless services? Luke 10:2
Well the scriptures answer that God's holy spirit will gather volunteer workers from all nations under the heavens during the end time to do this work! Psalms 110:3 compared to Malachi 3:16-18

No wonder Jesus said "whoever treat this volunteer workers badly will have to face him on judgment day!" Matthew 10:11-15

Satan and his demons are discouraging people from taking in this life saving instructions, of course Satan and his crew know Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only true Christian group, that's why they've formed different religions having contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings in the name of Jesus to distract people from welcoming Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 10:22, John 17:14-16

God bless you!

stupidity:
Explain!!!

If within the bible u won't understand my explanation... And I don't like talking much when it involve this type of topic. Cuz many are blind. I pray they realise the truth so that the truth can set them free.

SamjohnnyB:

Wrong

Then what is it? Rev. Pastor SammyJohn.

stupidity:
thank you very much for this. It really helped.


Question please; why did God put the serpent inside the garden of Eden when he knew it would corrupt His human creature? And how did this evil serpent come about and lived Right inside the beautifully crafted Garden of Eden?


Also would the world we live in advance very fast at this pace if human birth was slow and no death rate?

Most times I do think the world we live in was/is programmed to work this way, I mean death, birth, grow old etc. not minding if Adam ate the apple or not.


Mind my use of language and words. I’m not too good at using big words. Thanks for your time. I recently started studying the Bible. Boy!! I can’t get all this knowledge on my own. Going to church? I’m tired of hearing about paying money and more money. Please attend to the questions above. I really appreciate your time.

Adam ate Apple?
Who told u is apple that Adam ate?.
And to tell u the truth... The fruit Eve and Adam ate ain't physical fruit u know today.. It is a different type of fruit , the word fruit was used to deceive us. The people that understood what that fruit means understood what make Cain a bad person and why he killed his brother Abel.. Before Adam and Eve,, they where others.. Before Eve, there was one with Adam. But that is not recorded in the bible. To really understand the bible u need the Holy Spirit like someone suggest above. And u can't study only from the bible.. There are books older than the bible which explains some of the things in the bible u don't understand.

ABCthingx:
Then what is it? Rev. Pastor SammyJohn.

Am not a Rev or Pastor bro.. Am just a simple fellow

Alert: Jehovah Witnesses around! Thread with caution!

Maximus69:




Satan and his demons are discouraging people from taking in this life saving instructions, of course Satan and his crew know Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only true Christian group, that's why they've formed different religions having contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings in the name of Jesus to distract people from welcoming Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 10:22, John 17:14-16

God bless you!

You guys funny sha! All the Apostle Paul, Simon, James, John are not true because they not JW abi? But that a topic for another day

SamjohnnyB:

Am not a Rev or Pastor bro.. Am just a simple fellow

Ok, lemme guess you don't believe in the Trinity?

stupidity:
alright. I’m waiting, thanks for you time. Really appreciate.

Beguided, I can see Pastor saying some things about roaming outside the Bible.

Find a bible believing Church and go sola scriptural for now.
this forum might help you a lot: www.christianforum.com

BTW sola scriptural I do not mean you should not read anything outside the bible but let your believes be based on the Bible alone.

God bless

ABCthingx:
Ok, lemme guess you don't believe in the Trinity?

Wrong guess..

SamjohnnyB:


Wrong guess..

Then the 'our' is singular and it referring to God alone?

ABCthingx:
Then the 'our' is singular and it referring to God alone?

No sir.. It more than 3 people that the our is referring to.

ABCthingx:
You guys funny sha! All the Apostle Paul, Simon, James, John are not true because they not JW abi? But that a topic for another day

Hmmmmmmmmm it's good that you're not the one asking questions to gain insight, so the fruit is obvious!

But for the sake of other followers, i'll answer you.

Worshippers of the true God as one people have been given different GROUP names in the past.

Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Job all served God but weren't given any rule to organize them with other faithful ones that lived with them as their contemporaries.

It all began with the twelve tribes of Jacob's sons called "Israelites", God for the first time told Pharaoh of Egypt "let my PEOPLE go"!

Later Satan deceived these people and they were separated into two nations, Northern ten tribes called "Samaritans" and Southern two tribes called "Jews". God never accepted all the twelve as his people anymore but his spirit was with the Southern two tribes "Jews". Jesus confirmed this when a Samaritan woman asked him if God accepted the worship of both nations! John 4:22

Then Jesus arrived and started teaching the Jews the new covenant { Matthew 10:6,15:24, Jeremiah 31-34} but just few Jews accepted Jesus' teachings and God's people (those who embraced Christ) began bearing another name "Christians"! Act 11:26

Then Satan again planted weeds (false worshippers) amongst God's people (Christians) {Matthew 13:24-30} Jesus allowed both the fine seed (Christians) and the weeds (false worshippers) to continue until he began ruling in heaven in the year 1914! That's when he now turned his attention to his followers on earth to cleanse the spiritual Temple (Christianity).
But since the weeds also bears the same group name with true worshippers, God changed the name of his worshippers once again in this end time to "Jehovah's Witnesses" Isaiah 65:15 compared to Isaiah 43:10-12

So from Abel till date all of us are Jehovah's Witnesses Sir, you can read the Bible book of Hebrew 11:4-12:1 to confirm this!

Note those GROUP names from start to finish

©Israelites
©Jews
©Christians
©Jehovah's Witnesses
Each time Satan tries to incorporate his agents into God's own arrangement, the group name changes to help honest hearted observers IDENTIFY those practicing pure worship!


God bless you Sir!

stupidity:
After praying every morning, I read my bible to gain more knowledge. So I have few questions and I want people that are deep into bible study to help me out.

In the book of Genesis,

Genesis chapter 1 vs 26

“then God said let’s make man in “our” own image, according to “our” likeness”

Q. Who was God referring to as “our” when He alone was and is the only God??

Q 2. If God created man in His own image, does it mean man was once like God or should I say man was God on earth?


1 vs 27 to 29, the creation of man was narrated here.

2 vs 15 to 25, the creation of Adam and Eve was narrated here.

Q. Is the creation of Adam and Eve same as the creation of man in genesis chapter 1 vs 27 to 29?

Reason why I’m asking the question is, the first creation of man narrated in Genesis 1vs27-29 seems not to go into much details until Adam and Eve’s creation.


Genesis 2vs8

Why did God plant the tree of evil in the garden that was supposed to be heaven on earth? When He knew man has a weakness and where was God when the serpent made Eve eat from the tree of evil? Also why did God put the serpent in the Garden of Eden when He knew the serpent was evil and bound to corrupt God’s creation?


Genesis chapter 3vs11, Adam was quick to shift blame to Eve. Typical of mankind. (Still happens till date)

Again in genesis chapter 3vs22, God said “behold, the man has become one of “us” to know good and evil.

God made use of the word “us” again.

In the beginning/creation, no other being, Angel, God was made mention of but only Him. Then who are the “us” He talked about?

Genesis chapter 3vs19, God cursed Adam “in the sweat of your face, you shall eat bread till you return to the ground for out of it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you shall return”

Q. If Adam and Eve had not eaten of the evil tree, does this mean mankind will not know death but live forever on earth? If yes, what happens to the world ever increasing population??


Q 2. What would have become of mankind if Adam and Eve had not eaten from the evil tree?

Reason for this last question is, if Adam and Eve was so easy to manipulate and made to eat from the evil tree by a mere serpent right inside the Garden of Eden, this means God’s creation(man) was ALREADY vulnerable(FLAW) even before eating the forbidden fruit.

PLEASE your contributions are very welcomed!! I’m learning. Pardon my moniker.

Hello there.

Your questions are very good, whatever the reason may be for your asking them. It is also excellent practice to pray and read the Bible daily. In addition to these things, however, you must also find a reliable Bible-teaching ministry and submit to it so that you can learn everything the Bible teaches and become able to live the way that Christians are called to live in honor of the One Who died such a terrible Death for them.

As to your questions...

Re: Q. Who was God referring to as “our” when He alone was and is the only God??
The Lord was speaking to the other Members of the Trinity, since we know from the Bible that all things were made by God, not by any creature (Genesis 2:1-3; Revelation 4:11).

Re: Q 2. If God created man in His own image, does it mean man was once like God or should I say man was God on earth?
First, it is important to remember that God is Spirit (John 4:24), and not even in the sense that angels are spirits (Hebrews 1:7,14). Angels are created spirits who depend on space and time to exist. God, on the other hand, invented space, time, matter, and the universe, so His Existence is utterly independent of such things. It is impossible to define God in terms of shape or dimension or material composition, so it is not right to understand His Image in those terms either.

Next, the Image of God is itself defined by the passage in question:

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Genesis 1:26-28 KJV

That is to say, the Image of God is related to the ability to exercise authority over the things that God has created. In fact, it is the ability to respond to God's Authority. We call that ability free will, namely, the ability to respond to God in obedience or in rebellion against His Will. Man was made possessing this spiritual ability to make a choice about what attitude he will have toward God, whether he will rule over the earth as God's regent, or whether he will rebel against Him instead and attempt to seize the Earth from its Maker, just like some of the angels had done before Man was created.

In other words, man was and is able to determine himself with respect to God. We can choose who and what we will be in relation to God. This is a unique ability among God's creatures. It is possessed only by the angels and man. It is why the Scriptures says that we are "gods" (Psalm 82:6; John 10:34) and why angels are called "sons of God" (Job 38:7). It enables us to exercise divinely delegated authority over our lives and the world around us in God's behalf.

Re: Q. Is the creation of Adam and Eve same as the creation of man in genesis chapter 1 vs 27 to 29?
Yes. God finished all His Creation on the sixth day and rested on the seventh (Genesis 2:1-3). The description that follows in the rest of Chapter 2 is similar to other "zoom-in's" that Moses does in Genesis, where he develops a background in order to tell us an important story (for example, the story of Noah and the Flood). So, the creation of Adam and Eve happened on the sixth day. It is only focused on and expanded in chapter 2 in order to tell us how man fell and what that fall led to.

Re: Why did God plant the tree of evil in the garden that was supposed to be heaven on earth? When He knew man has a weakness and where was God when the serpent made Eve eat from the tree of evil? Also why did God put the serpent in the Garden of Eden when He knew the serpent was evil and bound to corrupt God’s creation?
First of all, Adam and Eve had no weakness when they were created (Genesis 1:31; Ecclesiastes 7:29).

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Genesis 1:31 KJV

Next, there was no tree of evil:

9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. . .16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
(Genesis 2:9,16-17 KJV

There was only a tree of the knowledge of good and evil that the Lord commanded Adam not to eat from. That tree was said by the Bible to be pleasant to the sight and good for food. It wasn't evil. It was part of God's good creation. It was only forbidden to man.

As to why God put this tree in the Garden, it was to be his test, to allow him to demonstrate his attitude to God of his own free will. If he chose to obey God, then eventually man would be resurrected in a new, eternal body and confirmed in God's Eternal Family as the replacement for Satan and the angels who rebelled. If he chose to disobey and join Satan in rebellion, then man would also enter Satan's condemnation and have either God's Mercy to pursue or else eternal judgment to face. Without a command of the sort that the Lord gave to Adam in the Garden, there would have been no opportunity for man to exercise his free will and make an unhindered choice whether to remain in submission to God or to rebel against Him.

As to where God was, He was in the Third Heaven. But of course He is really everywhere, so He was also with Adam in the Garden when the couple made their choice. Also, the serpent did not make Eve do anything. It only offered temptation. Eve made her own choice.

About the serpent, see Genesis 1:31 above, the serpent was not evil. It was an animal that was subtle (or careful, loosely translated) by nature, and it was Eve's pet. The only evil in the Garden was Satan who possessed the body of the serpent in order to tempt Eve into disobeying God. As I said, God allowed that to happen so that Adam and Eve could make a choice about their future with the Lord.

Re: In the beginning/creation, no other being, Angel, God was made mention of but only Him. Then who are the “us” He talked about?
Again, the Lord was addressing other Members of the Trinity here, not the angels. The angels were certainly around this time, but the Lord was not addressing them. The reason we can say so is that man had, by his choice to rebel and take of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, essentially constituted himself a rival God to the Lord. He would henceforth basically look to himself as the authority on all questions of life (Ecclesiastes 7:29; Romans 7; Galatians 5:16-17).

To explain, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was a tree that, just as its name went, provided anyone who ate its fruit with knowledge of good and evil. Until Adam and Eve ate of its fruit, they depended on the Lord to tell them what was good for them and what wasn't. They had no need to know anything about evil, since they were perfect and the Lord had provided for them all that they could possibly desire that was good. The tree expanded their conscience enabling them to appreciate good and evil in a far more sophisticated way than they did in the Garden where there was no evil of any kind. With such an expanded conscience, the natural tendency of man would be to decide for himself what is good and what is bad without reference to God. How? By justifying anything we prefer and condemning whatever we don't. So, we basically invent morality as it suits us. Of course, the vast majority of mankind is reluctant to do this on any great scale, but we do do it in some small ways, and there are human beings who become pure psychopaths from redefining good and evil, and during the Tribulation, the whole world will do just that when the restraint of the Holy Spirit upon evil in the world is removed and the Lord gives an empowerment of error to unbelievers to allow them to rebel to their heart's content. See Romans 1:18-2:16; Ecclesiastes 7:29; 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12; Isaiah 5:18-21.

So, this has nothing to do with the angels. Furthermore, it is clear that the Lord was speaking in order to take an executive action to forestall a situation that He did not want as the Ruler of Creation:

22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Genesis 3:22-24 KJV

That is, the Lord was noting how man's new fallen state must not be allowed to become a permanent thing. This was why He drove man out of the Garden and guarded the way back to it with the Cherubim, the highest ranking angels in Heaven. If He was talking to angels, why would He need to justify any action He was about to take? Does He owe any of His Creatures any explanation for the things He decides to do? No, the Lord was merely taking a royal "decision" in the Godhead. Keep in mind that this is something of an anthropopathism though, because the Lord has always known what man would do and what He would do about it. What was written was written for our benefit, so that we can understand the Lord's Eternal Plan.

Re: Q. If Adam and Eve had not eaten of the evil tree, does this mean mankind will not know death but live forever on earth? If yes, what happens to the world ever increasing population??
Please note again that there was no evil tree.

To your question specifically, however, if neither Adam and Eve nor any of their children ever ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the human race would have expanded up to the number of the angels who rebelled against God, then the entire human race would have been resurrected to have eternal bodies that are perfect and invulnerable to any more damage or decay or trouble of any sort and the whole creation would have been resurrected too into a perfect creation devoid of anything bad at all. The problem of the earth's ability to bear the ever-increasing population does not really arise because the Lord is able to do all things. He can make the earth able to sustain all those who live on it. The Lord Jesus did feed a crowd of thousands with just five loaves of bread and two fish after all. Consider also that during the Glorious Millennium, the whole resurrected Church will live on earth with a rapidly expanding population of unresurrected human beings at a time when death will not be a particularly normal occurrence (compared to the prior 6000 years of human existence). That is, a vast population of mortal human beings - possibly exceeding the number of the whole resurrected Church - will be on earth at the same time, and it won't be a problem: in fact, the Earth then will be at its most prosperous and peaceful.

However, the Lord had a different plan. That is what we see playing out in creation and documented in the Bible.

Re: Q 2. What would have become of mankind if Adam and Eve had not eaten from the evil tree?
This is answered to considerable extent immediately above. Here I will add that each human being born in such a hypothetical world would have also had to make at least a similar choice to the one that Adam and Eve had to make. If each person chose to not disobey the Lord, then the above scenario I wrote above would have occurred, but there is no guarantee at all that every single descendant of Adam and Eve would choose like they hypothetically did and if they didn't that would raise a completely new set of hypotheticals.

The Bible says that the Lord had things happen the way that they did so that all of the human race would be given to condemnation so that He would save us all (Romans 11:32; cf. Romans 5:12-19). That is, God allowed Adam and Eve to fall so that all their children would be born needing salvation. That way, the Sacrifice of the Lord Jesus that would be made later in history would answer for everybody. If only some humans sinned and not others, the situation would have been different. Adam and Eve's rebellion ruined their mortal bodies and that ruination has been passed down to every human being born of male seed ever since. That way, our sinfulness is guaranteed. Everyone of us human beings sins given even a second of life to live. That means that we are all in need of Salvation. Therefore the Death of Jesus Christ on the Cross was for all of us.

The reason for this is that Man was created as an answer to Satan's rebellion. Satan's greatest lie to seduce the angels to join him in his rebellion was that God could not forgive sin or judge the sinner. If He forgave, He would violate His Justice. If He judged the sinner, He would violate His Mercy. The Cross of Jesus Christ proved that God can do both without violating either His Justice or His Mercy. See Ephesians 3:10-12; cf. Psalm 50:21; Isaiah 14:4-20; Ezekiel 28:12-19.

Re: ...if Adam and Eve was so easy to manipulate and made to eat from the evil tree by a mere serpent right inside the Garden of Eden, this means God’s creation(man) was ALREADY vulnerable(FLAW) even before eating the forbidden fruit.
I'm afraid I don't see how this is true at all. It's just like saying that because a good car can still suffer a crash, it was flawed to begin with. That makes no sense. Man was built perfect, without sin or weakness of any sort, but with a true free will, so that he could decide either to remain perfect and without sin and weakness or else to become sinful, weak and imperfect. Consider that this was the exact same situation with the Lord Jesus. Because His Body was produced without male seed, it was perfect and without a sin nature. But He did have a free will. He was free to choose to disobey the Father. But He never chose to do so. He remained faithful and loyal to the Father in every single way. Adam and Eve could have been the same if they wanted. We too today can be the same if we want. It is only impossible to us because we have a sinful nature now that drives us to sin in our thoughts, words, and actions at all times. That is, we actually don't want to not sin. We prefer to sin, by nature. When we believe in Jesus Christ and are thus born anew, we get the Spirit of God inside us. Then, it becomes a struggle between two natures, one that loves to sin and another that loves to obey God. Even then, we are never perfect in avoiding sin, because the other nature does get the upper hand from time to time.

So, Adam's and Eve's failure had nothing to do with their design, rather it had everything to do with their choice, just as ours today do.

SamjohnnyB:

No sir.. It more than 3 people that the our is referring to.

which others again? All the Angels?

Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmmm it's good that you're not the one asking questions to gain insight, so the fruit is obvious!

But for the sake of other followers, i'll answer you.

Worshippers of the true God as one people have been given different GROUP names in the past.

Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Job all served God but weren't given any rule to organize them with other faithful ones that lived with them as their contemporaries.

It all began with the twelve tribes of Jacob's sons called "Israelites", God for the first time told Pharaoh of Egypt "let my PEOPLE go"!

Later Satan deceived these people and they were separated into two nations, Northern ten tribes called "Samaritans" and Southern two tribes called "Jews". God never accepted all the twelve as his people anymore but his spirit was with the Southern two tribes "Jews". Jesus confirmed this when a Samaritan woman asked him if God accepted the worship of both nations! John 4:22

Then Jesus arrived and started teaching the Jews the new covenant { Matthew 10:6,15:24, Jeremiah 31-34} but just few Jews accepted Jesus' teachings and God's people (those who embraced Christ) began bearing another name "Christians"! Act 11:26

Then Satan again planted weeds (false worshippers) amongst God's people (Christians) {Matthew 13:24-30} Jesus allowed both the fine seed (Christians) and the weeds (false worshippers) to continue until he began ruling in heaven in the year 1914! That's when he now turned his attention to his followers on earth to cleanse the spiritual Temple (Christianity).
But since the weeds also bears the same group name with true worshippers, God changed the name of his worshippers once again in this end time to "Jehovah's Witnesses" Isaiah 65:15 compared to Isaiah 43:10-12

So from Abel till date all of us are Jehovah's Witnesses Sir, you can read the Bible book of Hebrew 11:4-12:1 to confirm this!

Note those GROUP names from start to finish

©Israelites
©Jews
©Christians
©Jehovah's Witnesses
Each time Satan tries to incorporate his agents into God's own arrangement, the group name changes to help honest hearted observers IDENTIFY those practicing pure worship!


God bless you Sir!

So all those after Christ before 1914 were weeds? Do you even realize you're saying God is incapable of keeping his people and his word?
Okay, I want to hear what story they feed you guys with that made Christ not to return 3 times as your Oga predicted.

ABCthingx:
So all those after Christ before 1914 were weeds? Do you even realize you're saying God is incapable of keeping his people and his word?
Okay, I want to hear what story they feed you guys with that made Christ not to return 3 times as your Oga predicted.

Jesus foretold this Sir! Matthew 13:24-30

If you have farming experience you'll understand what will happen if your crops is left to grow along with weeds, the weeds will simply overshadow the crops. So if anyone views your farm from few yards away,it will be difficult to see what you planted. That's exactly what happened after the death of the Apostles! Act 20:29

God informed us ahead so that whatever Satan do won't catch us unaware, that's why it's only Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth that's zealously, industriously and peacefully preaching and teaching in all our neighborhood globally!

The story our teachers fed us may sound somehow to you Sir, but it's what made it possible for Jesus' heartfelt prayers to God fulfilled. Only Jehovah's Witnesses succeeded in uniting people of all races, making us one big happy family of peace loving worshippers! John 17:20-23

So who is teaching you Sir and can you tell us just one single achievement of what your own teachers taught you?

Please spare me the lies that it's God's holy spirit that's teaching you because God's holy spirit is at work and the WORKS is the evidence of the FAITH in us! James 2:18-26

If the FAITH in your religious group can't work out LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF CONTROL in your midst, i'm using this medium to tell you that you've been terribly deceived Sir!