From what i learned the current JF-17B model is based on the Block 2 but a Block 3B is also in development.

Nigerian fighter pilot

Malian Special Forces. CQB training

Please, I have a question, how much does Russia spend on defence. I heard Saudi Arabia spends more than Russia on defence.

If this is the case, how come Russia has more weapons than Saudi Arabia, and has the 2nd largest military in the world?

kabe1:
Please, I have a question, how much does Russia spend on defence. I heard Saudi Arabia spends more than Russia on defence.

If this is the case, how come Russia has more weapons than Saudi Arabia, and has the 2nd largest military in the world?

Russia has a huuuuge stockpile from the Soviet era and their equipment is far less expensive than the high-tech gear and equipment Saudi Arabia buys from Western powers.

Saudi Arabia even buys at inflated prices to keep western defence industries pleased and hence the US in particular happy with their relationship. This in turn makes the US bend in any way to keep the relationship alive as seen in their consistent pro- Saudi foreign policy disposition.

Nigerian Army

NA T-72 tank platoon

NA BTR-4E IFV gunner manning the Paurus Combat Module

NA Scorpion light tanks and a Bigfoot MRAP at Port Harcourt

shadowprimezero:


Russia has a huuuuge stockpile from the Soviet era and their equipment is far less expensive than the high-tech gear and equipment Saudi Arabia buys from Western powers.

Saudi Arabia even buys at inflated prices to keep western defence industries pleased and hence the US in particular happy with their relationship. This in turn makes the US bend in any way to keep the relationship alive as seen in their consistent pro- Saudi foreign policy disposition.

I know Russia has a huge stockpile of Soviet era weapons, but the Soviet union was like 85% Russia. The industrial base was mostly in Russia, the other countries were small satellite states. Only Ukraine was any significance.

But the old Soviet union apart.

If we look at Russian modernization programme, they have bought more planes, more ships, more land systems that all the countries in the world apart from USA. On the navy side, only China has bought more.

How do you achieve that, when you spend less than Saudi Arabia?

Are Russian gears really inexpensive? MI-35M, 12 units cost Nigeria 350 million dollars. If you compare it with the Super Tucano Nigeria bought from USA at 400 million dollars, although not a direct comparison to the MI-35m you will see the costs are the same or even cheaper in favour of the Tucano, remember the lists of bombs we are getting with the Tucano too?

Why is this?

Large-scale joint US/Egyptian Army exercise panorama image. Abrams tanks, F-16, EAF Dassault Rafale, IFV's, APCs involved

New Nigerian navy Special mission ship.

Could it partly be because the Russians produce their own arms while the Saudis mainly import theirs

kabe1:

I know Russia has a huge stockpile of Soviet era weapons, but the Soviet union was like 85% Russia. The industrial base was mostly in Russia, the other countries were small satellite states. Only Ukraine was any significance.

But the old Soviet union apart.

If we look at Russian modernization programme, they have bought more planes, more ships, more land systems that all the countries in the world apart from USA. On the navy side, only China has bought more.

How do you achieve that, when you spend less than Saudi Arabia?

Are Russian gears really inexpensive? MI-35M, 12 units cost Nigeria 350 million dollars. If you compare it with the Super Tucano Nigeria bought from USA at 400 million dollars, although not a direct comparison to the MI-35m you will see the costs are the same or even cheaper in favour of the Tucano, remember the lists of bombs we are getting with the Tucano too?

Why is this?

kabe1:

I know Russia has a huge stockpile of Soviet era weapons, but the Soviet union was like 85% Russia. The industrial base was mostly in Russia, the other countries were small satellite states. Only Ukraine was any significance.

But the old Soviet union apart.

If we look at Russian modernization programme, they have bought more planes, more ships, more land systems that all the countries in the world apart from USA. On the navy side, only China has bought more.

How do you achieve that, when you spend less than Saudi Arabia?

Are Russian gears really inexpensive? MI-35M, 12 units cost Nigeria 350 million dollars. If you compare it with the Super Tucano Nigeria bought from USA at 400 million dollars, although not a direct comparison to the MI-35m you will see the costs are the same or even cheaper in favour of the Tucano, remember the lists of bombs we are getting with the Tucano too?

Why is this?

Remember, actual Russian modernization only started as recently at around 2010. Before that all frontline existing hardware like the T-90, T-72, BMP's, BTR's, Naval vessels, aircraft, were mostly Soviet-era albeit heavily modified. My point is that they are pre-existing, were mostly not built from scratch and generally don't require that much maintenance. This will of course translate to lower per capita defence Russian spending as compared to Saudi Arabia that always buys shiny new toys from the west almost every other day.

New Russian hardware like the T-15 Armata MBT, the VPK-7829 Bumerang and the T-50 are very much in limited numbers and are in the evaluation phase. Defence spending will definitely catch up when they begin to enter service.

As a side note, remember that the Mi-35 is top of the line and only made its maiden flight in 2007. It's has cutting-edge and advanced systems that definitely justify the price.

Sizzorkay:
Could it partly be because the Russians produce their own arms while the Saudis mainly import theirs

I think this could be the reason. I also think if we are to really look at it Russia might be spending 200 billion dollars on defence.

shadowprimezero:


Remember, actual Russian modernization only started as recently at around 2010. Before that all frontline existing hardware like the T-90, T-72, BMP's, BTR's, Naval vessels, aircraft, were mostly Soviet-era albeit heavily modified. My point is that they are pre-existing, were mostly not built from scratch and generally don't require that much maintenance. This will of course translate to lower per capita defence Russian spending as compared to Saudi Arabia that always buys shiny new toys from the west almost every other day.

New Russian hardware like the T-15 Armata MBT, the VPK-7829 Bumerang and the T-50 are very much in limited numbers and are in the evaluation phase. Defence spending will definitely catch up when they begin to enter service.

As a side note, remember that the Mi-35 is top of the line and only made its maiden flight in 2007. It's has cutting-edge and advanced systems that definitely justify the price.

Thank you Sir for your response, I already knew the answer before I asked the question to mainly elicit a response.

So I came across the real answer today, read it and see what you think.

It is incredibly detailed and in depth, plus an enjoyable read.

WHY RUSSIAN MILITARY EXPENDITURE IS MUCH HIGHER THAN COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD (AS IS CHINA’S)

Why Russia Gets More Bang for the Ruble

Based on the annual average dollar-to-ruble exchange rates, Russia is typically depicted as spending in the region of $60 billion per year on its military. This is roughly in line with the defense spending of medium-sized powers like the United Kingdom and France. However, anybody familiar with Russia’s military modernization program over the past decade will see the illogic: how can a military budget the size of the United Kingdom’s be used to maintain over a million personnel while simultaneously procuring vast quantities of capable military equipment?

Russian procurement dwarfs that of most European powers combined. Beyond delivering large quantities of weaponry for today’s forces, Russia’s scientists and research institutes are far along in development of hypersonic weapons, such as Tsirkon and Avangard, along with next-generation air defense systems like S-500. This volume of procurement and research and development should not be possible with a military budget ostensibly the same size as the United Kingdom’s. When theory checks in with practice, the problem with the approaches that return such answers is plain for anyone to see.

Read more in the link below.


https://warontherocks.com/2019/12/why-russian-military-expenditure-is-much-higher-than-commonly-understood-as-is-chinas/

kabe1:


Thank you Sir for your response, I already knew the answer before I asked the question to mainly elicit a response.

So I came across the real answer today, read it and see what you think.

It is incredibly detailed and in depth, plus an enjoyable read.

WHY RUSSIAN MILITARY EXPENDITURE IS MUCH HIGHER THAN COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD (AS IS CHINA’S)

Why Russia Gets More Bang for the Ruble

Based on the annual average dollar-to-ruble exchange rates, Russia is typically depicted as spending in the region of $60 billion per year on its military. This is roughly in line with the defense spending of medium-sized powers like the United Kingdom and France. However, anybody familiar with Russia’s military modernization program over the past decade will see the illogic: how can a military budget the size of the United Kingdom’s be used to maintain over a million personnel while simultaneously procuring vast quantities of capable military equipment?

Russian procurement dwarfs that of most European powers combined. Beyond delivering large quantities of weaponry for today’s forces, Russia’s scientists and research institutes are far along in development of hypersonic weapons, such as Tsirkon and Avangard, along with next-generation air defense systems like S-500. This volume of procurement and research and development should not be possible with a military budget ostensibly the same size as the United Kingdom’s. When theory checks in with practice, the problem with the approaches that return such answers is plain for anyone to see.

Read more in the link below.


https://warontherocks.com/2019/12/why-russian-military-expenditure-is-much-higher-than-commonly-understood-as-is-chinas/

I just finished reading through. That was a very insightful piece. I never saw it from that angle. Thank you for sharing.

shadowprimezero:


I just finished reading through. That was a very insightful piece. I never saw it from that angle. Thank you for sharing.

It is an incredible read. You know I keep wondering how does Russia have 300+ units of SU-35, SU-30SM and SU-27SM3 all top of the line fighters.

i have found the nigerian frigate. i am truly impress. over to the men in the house for analysis......

this is the link.............


https://products.damen.com/en/ranges/air-defence-command-frigate/air-defence-and-command-frigate-14019

Nigerian Navy is expecting the following ships next year.

"Dick listed the platforms expected to join the Services’ fleet in 2020 to include,
-1 x 60m Hydrographic Survey Ship from Ocea France,

-2 x 40m FPBs from Damen Shipyard Vietnam,

-1 x 45m SDB III from Naval Dockyard Limited Lagos.

Others are:
- 2 x 35m FPBs from Ocean France,

- 1 x 24m FPB from Ocea France,

-4 x Manta Class Boats from Suncraft Malaysia, ​

-4 x 17C –Falcon Boats from Ocea France, and

-5 x RHIBs enroute from Suncraft Malaysia,

-15 x RHIBs from Suncraft Malaysia.

Also expected are

-15 x 8.5m Riverine Patrol Boats from Epenal Group Nigeria Limited, Port Harcourt, 9 x 8.5m ~
-
-AW139 from Italy."

https://newsverge.com/2019/12/18/maritime-security-nigerian-navy-expecting-more-platforms-before-end-of-2020/

kabe1:
Nigerian Navy is expecting the following ships next year.

"Dick listed the platforms expected to join the Services’ fleet in 2020 to include,
-1 x 60m Hydrographic Survey Ship from Ocea France,

-2 x 40m FPBs from Damen Shipyard Vietnam,

-1 x 45m SDB III from Naval Dockyard Limited Lagos.

Others are:
- 2 x 35m FPBs from Ocean France,

- 1 x 24m FPB from Ocea France,

-4 x Manta Class Boats from Suncraft Malaysia, ​

-4 x 17C –Falcon Boats from Ocea France, and

-5 x RHIBs enroute from Suncraft Malaysia,

-15 x RHIBs from Suncraft Malaysia.

Also expected are

-15 x 8.5m Riverine Patrol Boats from Epenal Group Nigeria Limited, Port Harcourt, 9 x 8.5m ~
-
-AW139 from Italy."

https://newsverge.com/2019/12/18/maritime-security-nigerian-navy-expecting-more-platforms-before-end-of-2020/

More than 40 Maritime based platforms put together.Nice!
With at least 25 from Nigeria ����

shadowprimezero:


I just finished reading through. That was a very insightful piece. I never saw it from that angle. Thank you for sharing.

Most of the pic u always post av already been posted before.

kabe1:
New Nigerian navy Special mission ship.

Not Nigerian Navy!!!

jln115:
Not Nigerian Navy!!!

Help me tell him !

jln115:
Not Nigerian Navy!!!

Nigerian Navy bros.

The ministry of transport bought it for the Nigerian navy.

jln115:
Not Nigerian Navy!!!

NIMASA is not a coastguard, they are not even a security outfit. they are a regulatory agency.

kabe1:

Nigerian Navy bros.

The ministry of transport bought it for the Nigerian navy.

It not operated or owned by the Nigerian Navy.... Get your facts straight

Toju200:
Help me tell him !

I've tried...

jln115:

It not operated or owned by the Nigerian Navy.... Get your facts straight

It is operated by who?

Please tell me.

kabe1:
It is operated by who?
Please tell me.

NN contributes only to its manning (Because of weaponry)

Odunayaw:
NN contributes only to its manning (Because of weaponry)

So the boat is partly owned by the Nigerian navy. It doesn't dispute what i said.

kabe1:

So the boat is partly owned by the Nigerian navy. It doesn't dispute what i said.

Funds didn't come from NN's pockets nor were they recipients of the purchase.

NN are only in the matter because of our Firearms law and their expertise.