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Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by Nobody: 5:04pm On Jan 27, 2019
Omudia11:
Looks like you're actually brain dead.
I'm not the distributor of spirit wives so if you're looking for them , go find them yourself.

Didn't even know you were this deranged and senile. Just go play somewhere else.
I don"t remember asking you, you quoted me and offered. fool! grin
And now it Appears you have no clue of what you are talking about.
Yes! now you know i am deranged. you are even more deranged believing in spirit wives, next time stay in your Ignorant moronic and Achaic lane. grin
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by Nobody: 5:08pm On Jan 27, 2019
freshvine:


U Well?
Is that all?
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by GIFTD: 5:34pm On Jan 27, 2019
netflicks:
I use to have sex that seem to be so real with a beautiful woman in my dream...I did my research and find it to be so bad..still praying my self out of it....

God help me
they come because you have their properties (worldliness) in u. Separate from the world in friendship, pornography and amorous conversation and dedicate urself to the word of God and prayer and u will be free.
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by shekauvsbuhari: 5:49pm On Jan 27, 2019
If U re ignorant of a thing, better to keep quiet about it than to come and be misleading people. It is not every problem of life that is clearly stated in the holy books. The problem with many so-called pastors is they are never humble to admit that they dnt know about a thing. They will try to twist bible to come up with an answer. LET ME ASK U A QUESTION MR KNOW ALL. WHY IS IT THAT WHEN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COME TO A HEALING CRUSADE, NOT ALL GETS HEALED? WHAT IS RESPONSIBLE? SIN, FAITH OR ANNOINTING?
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by Venerable612(m): 6:17pm On Jan 27, 2019
MizyB:
1 Corinthians 6:17
But the person who is united to the Lord becomes one spirit with Him. (AMP)

But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.(KJV)

The spiritual husband is not just my husband but is Christ's as well because I have the same spirit as Christ.

But that would be ridiculous right?

The concept of spiritual husband or wife is null and void to the Believer.

Glory to God.


I think it will be naive to say that there are no spiritual husbands/wives.

You are right to hold on to the belief - that once saved - we are free indeed from such entanglement. Buh somehow I think - the believer has to come to that knowledge. Plus, somehow, the salvation of most Christians is not genuine.

Because you still see many Christians who are oppressed by the devil.

So for me - being saved is one part, understanding and living in that reality is another thing entirely. Even angels fall out of grace.

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Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 6:50pm On Jan 27, 2019
Omudia11:
How many of those developed countries have you been to ? Keep saying what you don't know. Go on YouTube and see Americans and Europeans talking about spirit spouses and give yourself a brain.
which u tube?

Ok, bring one link lets whether they are americans or nigerians grin
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 6:53pm On Jan 27, 2019
Funkybabee:




lols so uneducated people fly to Scoan for spiritual husband deliverance.. pele u need to learn alot
i can prove to you that all those white men are all touts in the streets of south africa and london, they never saw education .

Do you think all white men you see speaking English are educated?

Oyo for you grin
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 6:57pm On Jan 27, 2019
Omudia11:
Your arrogant ignorance will surely see to your demise.

If you don't know something, seek knowledge so that you can learn.
learn what?

All your mates in developed nations are thinking of how to travel to space and make researches you are here talking about spirit husband and wife.

You must be a very big joke grin
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 7:32pm On Jan 27, 2019
zimbolaa:


What of those from whom evil spirits were cast out in Acts of the apostle?
they were never christians, read the bible again.

If someone is possesed, how does coming to church make him a christian (if i am to borrow your line of argument)?
first of all, you must know who a christian is.

A christian is anyone who has believed that Jesus is the Christ either by him being brought up by his parents to believe that way or he was converted to believe in Christ, having believing in other religions previously.

Jesus says i am the way the truth and the life..
That means muhammed is not the way.
Abraham who founded judaism is not the way.

So, anyone who believes in christ whether he goes to church or not he is already in the way of eternal life through christ.

Now, you will agree with me that most of these people who are being delivered from fowl spirits or whatever, in churches today, came from other denominations yet the same christianity?

Therefore they are all christians.

Except those ones who are muslims or from other religions other than christianity. These are the ones that there is possibility that they may be possessed.

Why, because ,everyone that have confessed Christ have the spirit of God and not any possessed spirit.

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

Except the bible is lying, what pastors are doing today called deliverance can never be true.

Its as simple as that grin

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Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by unstoppable51(m): 8:15pm On Jan 27, 2019
God bless you my brother

paxonel:
they were never christians, read the bible again.
first of all, you must know who a christian is.

A christian is anyone who has believed that Jesus is the Christ either by him being brought up by his parents to believe that way or he was converted to believe in Christ, having believing in other religions previously.

Jesus says i am the way the truth and the life..
That means muhammed is not the way.
Abraham who founded judaism is not the way.

So, anyone who believes in christ whether he goes to church or not he is already in the way of eternal life through christ.

Now, you will agree with me that most of these people who are being delivered from fowl spirits or whatever, in churches today, came from other denominations yet the same christianity?

Therefore they are all christians.

Except those ones who are muslims or from other religions other than christianity. These are the ones that there is possibility that they may be possessed.

Why, because ,everyone that have confessed Christ have the spirit of God and not any possessed spirit.

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

Except the bible is lying, what pastors are doing today called deliverance can never be true.

Its as simple as that grin

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Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by oaroloye(m): 8:20am On Jan 28, 2019
MISHIGAS!

I get that you want to help people, but you do more harm than good speaking from OYINBO-EDUCATION IGNORANCE and FALSE RELIGION.

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

"JUDGE not,
that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be Judged:
and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be Measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy Brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy Brother,


'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'


and, behold,
a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite, first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote out of thy Brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them under their feet,
and turn again and rend you."


CHRISTIANITY HAS GONE THROUGH NUMEROUS CHANGES SINCE IT FELL INTO OYINBO HANDS.

Every single one of them was wrong.

I guarantee you, that if you taught the sort of Christianity you believe in in England of a few hundred years ago, they would tie you to a stake, and light firewood at your feet, and execute you thereby.

In America of mere decades ago, they would hang you from a tree.

This was considered "norma"l at the time.

Those people who said it was wrong were called " insane."

Now, it is considered sane by many people to condemn Sinners with harsh, abrasive language. It is even considered worse than the Sin being corrected.

oaroloye:
. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets.
13. "Enter ye in at The Strait Gate:
for wide is the Gate,
and broad is the way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because strait is the Gate,
and narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life,
and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every Good Tree
bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a Corrupt Tree
bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot
bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree
bring forth Good Fruit.
19. "Every tree that
bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down,
and cast into the Fire.
20 Wherefore by their Fruits
ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one
that saith unto me,
'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but He that doeth
The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22 Many will say to me
in That Day,


'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'


23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'


24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth Them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his house upon a rock:
25. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell not:
for it was founded upon a rock.
26 . "And every one that heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the sand:
27. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell:
and great was the fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the people were astonished
at his Doctrine:
29. For He taught them
as one having authority,
and not as the scribes.


You use Medical Doctors, don't you?

As a Christian, you should not.

But would you go to a Doctor who did not have complete training? Who had no knowledge of the condition you had, but tried to make up a treatment out of GUESSWORK?

That is what you are doing here.

. MARK 11:12-14, 20-26.

12 And on the morrow,
when they had come from Bethany,
he was hungry:

13 and seeing a fig tree
afar off having leaves,
he went to see if perhaps
he might find any thing thereon:
But when he came to it
he found nothing but leaves;
for the time for figs was not (yet).

14. And Jesus answered
and Said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And His Disciples heard (it).
20 And in the morning,
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter,
calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

“Master, behold,
the fig tree
which thou cursedst
is withered away.”
22. And Jesus answering,
Said unto them,

“Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I Say unto you,


'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,


"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU CAST INTO THE SEA;'


AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'[/i
]


24. "Therefore I Say unto you,

[i]'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'


25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
which is in Heaven
may forgive you your trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your trespasses.”


THE GOSPEL OF LORD YESHUA IS ALL ABOUT MAKING DREAMS TO BECOME PHYSICAL REALITY.

REALITY is defined in SCIENTOLOGY, as something whose existence is confirmed by the perceptions, conceptions, or recalls two or more people.

That is WRONG, according to Lord Yeshua: only ONE person needs to conceive a thing for it to be a REALITY!

. MATTHEW 5:27-28.

27. "Ye have heard
that it was said by them
of Old Time,


'THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY:'

28. "But I Say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER LOOKETH
ON A WOMAN
TO LUST AFTER HER
HATH COMMITTED ADULTERY
WITH HER ALREADY
IN HIS HEART.' "


Therefore, if someone says that they have a Spiritual Wife or Spiritual Husband Problem, THEY HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT IS FAR BEYOND YOUR LEVEL OF IGNORANCE TO HANDLE.

No ordinary person can Dream the same thing repeatedly.

What I know about Dreams is far beyond what many who consider themselves Advanced Christians know about Dreams, because I know NAGUALISM: The Teachings of NATIVE AMERICAN SHAPESHIFTING SEERS.

It should go without saying, that I am only concerned with those Teachings that corroborate The Bible. I have no interest in WITCHCRAFT nor SORCERY, except what I need to know to SAVE VICTIMS OF THEM.

That does entail knowing about a lot of horrible stuff one should personally not want to know.

THE NATIVE AMERICANS were HUNTER-GATHERERS at their best, and AGRICULTURALISTS when their quality-of-life arguably declined.

The Lord Yeshua based his Gospel on Agricultural Concepts. NAGUALISM is based on HUNTER-GATHERER Concepts.

To understand THE GOSPEL, you have to THINK LIKE A HEBREW ISRAELITE AGRICULTURALIST.

To understand NAGUALISM, you have to HUNTER-GATHERER.

THE CARDINAL PRINCIPLES OF NAGUALISM ARE: STALKING, DREAMING, AND INTENT.

These terms cannot be understood by any Westerner who does not have personal knowledge of HUNTING AND GATHERING.

I know this because I have studied OYINBOS trying to understand CARLOS CASTANEDA for DECADES, and most of them don't know what the (*Bleep!*) they are talking about.

I understand NAGUALISM, because I am a YORUBA with experience of Hunting and Gathering. (i.e. I know how to open a RAW COCONUT, and CATCH FISH.)

STALKING means the modification of personal behavior to achieve whatever goal is desired.

DREAMING means the TOTAL CONTROL of DREAMS.

INTENT[b] means the control of Reality by Willpower.

These Principles can be found in The Bible in general, and in Lord Yeshua's Gospel in particular.

What I want to say about DREAMING is that the capability of Dreams depends upon the capability of the Mind Dreaming them.

You cannot compare the Dreams of a Novice with the Dreams of a Seer. You cannot compare the Dreams of an Atheist to the Dreams of a Faith Healer.

The Dreams of a SPIRITUAL ADEPT are POWERFUL and DANGEROUS.

The Dreams of a WEAKLING are mere IMAGINATION as meaningless as those of the bottom echelon of Western Education failures.

[See: JOURNEY TO IXTLAN: The Lessons of Don Juan, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE ART OF DREAMING, by Carlos Castaneda.]

[b]FOUR OF THE SEVEN GATES OF DREAMING.


(1) FIND YOUR HANDS: Resolve that, whatever happens in your Dream, when you fall asleep, that you will LOOK AT YOUR HANDS.

Once you do this, you will have a REAL body in your Dreams, and not an imaginary one.

Everything you thought you were doing in your Dreams before this was done in an Imaginary Body that was not "REAL."

(2) PERCEIVE YOUR LOCATION: You must not fix your gaze on anything, but constantly shift it around. Take note of what you hear, but do not respond to anything.

(3) CHANGE YOUR DREAMS: When you can control your perceptions in Dreaming, learn to move by *Intent* rather than trying to move your body as you would when you are awake.

Deliberately gaze at objects and entities in your Dream, to make them change.

If any thing or being does not change when you gaze at it, whereas other things and beings in your Dreams do change, THOSE ARE NOT PARTS OF YOUR DREAMS, THOSE ARE FROM THE OUTSIDE OF YOU.

If you ask them: "TAKE ME TO YOUR WORLD!"

They will do so.

If you ask to STAY in their World, they (or their Masters who used them as BAIT,) will immediately COLLECT YOUR PHYSICAL BODY, and that is how you will DISAPPEAR FOR EVER.

The same thing will happen, if, in their World, they offer you "POWER" to do something.

Your Physical Body and its clothes will all disappear, and you wil usuallyl never be seen again.

THEREFORE EXERCISE THE UTMOST CAUTION IN WHAT YOU SAY IN DREAMING, BECAUSE YOU CANNOT TAKE IT BACK!

It appears that only MALES are in danger of this form of "ALIEN ABDUCTION." But that is no reason for Females to act stupidly.

(4) LEAVE YOUR DREAM AND ENTER THE REAL WORLD: When you have changed your Dreams many times, you will one day (this can take many months to achieve!) Experience a Dream in which you see someone asleep in bed: this turns out to be YOU.

ON NO ACCOUNT INTERFERE WITH YOUR SLEEPING BODY!

Turn away and go get some serious work done.

(5) ENTER OTHER DREAM WORLDS: The whole "DREAM SPOUSE" Problem must be due to somebody doing this to the victims.

Do you therefore see how you cannot approach this ignorantly, applying OYINBO PSYCHIATRIC AND EVANGELICAL/PENTECOSTAL CHRISTIAN SUPERSTITION and NONSENSE?

This is stuff those of the JUNIOR LEVELS know nothing about, nor want YOU to know anything about- whereas the CORRUPT SENIORS KNOW ALL ABOUT THESE PHENOMENA, and do not want people whom they do not control to know about them.
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by Funkybabee(f): 10:51am On Jan 28, 2019
paxonel:
i can prove to you that all those white men are all touts in the streets of south africa and london, they never saw education .

Do you think all white men you see speaking English are educated?

Oyo for you grin



agiooooooo
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by zimbolaa(m): 11:02am On Jan 28, 2019
paxonel:
they were never christians, read the bible again.
first of all, you must know who a christian is.

A christian is anyone who has believed that Jesus is the Christ either by him being brought up by his parents to believe that way or he was converted to believe in Christ, having believing in other religions previously.

Jesus says i am the way the truth and the life..
That means muhammed is not the way.
Abraham who founded judaism is not the way.

So, anyone who believes in christ whether he goes to church or not he is already in the way of eternal life through christ.

Now, you will agree with me that most of these people who are being delivered from fowl spirits or whatever, in churches today, came from other denominations yet the same christianity?

Therefore they are all christians.

Except those ones who are muslims or from other religions other than christianity. These are the ones that there is possibility that they may be possessed.

Why, because ,everyone that have confessed Christ have the spirit of God and not any possessed spirit.

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

Except the bible is lying, what pastors are doing today called deliverance can never be true.

Its as simple as that grin

Does confession and belief alone rid one of demon possession? Haven't you heard that the devil too believes and trembles? If total salvation is gained by belief and confession alone then, why go through the stress of delivering non-christians (as you call them)? It would've been easier for Christ and the apostles to ask them to believe and then, they would be automatically free. Don't you think so?
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 12:18pm On Jan 28, 2019
zimbolaa:


Does confession and belief alone rid one of demon possession? Haven't you heard that the devil too believes and trembles?
the devil in question here are not humans.
God is not interested in saving the devil, he is interested in saving humans, so whether the devil believe or not it does not change anything.

If total salvation is gained by belief and confession alone then, why go through the stress of delivering non-christians (as you call them)?
who is saying you should go and deliver non christians?
If they come to you saying they are possessed and you can deliver no wahalla.
But dont come and say you are delivering christs.

It would've been easier for Christ and the apostles to ask them to believe and then, they would be automatically free. Don't you think so?
it seems you did not understand the scripture i quoted.

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

That simply means that it takes Gods spirit for anyone to accept christ, which means if anyone is without Gods there is no way he can accept christ .

Then why should any christian ask such people to believe in order to get them delivered?

Just let them be
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by nelsonoba: 2:19pm On Jan 28, 2019
MizyB:
1 Corinthians 6:17
But the person who is united to the Lord becomes one spirit with Him. (AMP)

But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.(KJV)

The spiritual husband is not just my husband but is Christ's as well because I have the same spirit as Christ.

But that would be ridiculous right?

The concept of spiritual husband or wife is null and void to the Believer.

Glory to God.

One question you need to answer; if the concept of demons trying to oppress the believer is null and void, then why did Jesus give us authority to bind and cast out devils?

THE FACT THAT THE DEVIL DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO OPPRESS THE BELIEVER DOES NOT MEAN HE WILL NEVER ATTEMPT TO DO SO. The devil does not play by the rules of the game, and that is why you were given the power to bind and cast him out when he tries to oppress you. If you don't bind and cast him out with your authority when he tries to attack you, he will keep on oppressing you. God will not bind the devil for you when you haven't issued a command to the devil with your authority. So this idea that because one is a believer, the devil will never attempt to attack the person is a FAT LIE. IF THE DEVIL COULD TEMPT JESUS THE SON OF GOD, THEN WHO ARE YOU THAT THE DEVIL WILL NOT TEMPT YOU? DO YOU HAVE MORE AUTHORITY THAN JESUS THAT WAS TEMPTED? The important thing is to know that even if the devil tries to oppress you, you now have the power to cast him out because he has no legal right to oppress a child of God.

Besides, why do some believers get killed by accidents or witches if once a person becomes a believer, the person no longer faces any attack from the devil?

Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by zimbolaa(m): 5:52pm On Jan 28, 2019
paxonel:
the devil in question here are not humans.
God is not interested in saving the devil, he is interested in saving humans, so whether the devil believe or not it does not change anything.
who is saying you should go and deliver non christians?
If they come to you saying they are possessed and you can deliver no wahalla.
But dont come and say you are delivering christs.
it seems you did not understand the scripture i quoted.

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

That simply means that it takes Gods spirit for anyone to accept christ, which means if anyone is without Gods there is no way he can accept christ .

Then why should any christian ask such people to believe in order to get them delivered?

Just let them be



This is a very wrong submission and a dangerous one from the pit of hell too. When you say something like this, you completely rule out the place of work in salvation. A Christian who has confessed can be used by the devil. A typical case is that of Ananias and Saphira. One question you haven't answered still. Is everyone found in the Church a Christian?
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 6:45pm On Jan 28, 2019
zimbolaa:


This is a very wrong submission and a dangerous one from the pit of hell too. When you say something like this, you completely rule out the place of work in salvation.
what works are you talking about?
Miracles?
I did not rule out miracles o, miracles do exist for sure, but not delivering evil spirits from someone who already have the holy spirit.
I just quoted scriptures saying everyone who believe in christ have the holy spirit.
Everyone seen going to church are christians, they have believed, the are not satan.
Satan has believed does not mean that humans who believe may also be satan there is no such possibility going by the scripture i gave you in 1 john 4:2
Except the scripture is lying .

A Christian who has confessed can be used by the devil. A typical case is that of Ananias and Saphira.
ofcourse yes!
Christians can be used by the devil to do wrong just like anyone else, but that doesnt mean they are possessed by evil spirits where you will now go and deliver them.
If you study Ananias and Saphira very well, they were purnished for their wrong doing. Not that they were delivered from demons as pastors today are doing to ignorant christians

One question you haven't answered still. Is everyone found in the Church a Christian?
i have told they all have believed in christ therefore they are all christians.
They were redeemed ! They have the holy spirit embedded in them given to them freely and they dont know, they are confessing rubbish.

And though there are ignorant ones among them who still commit sin but they were saved already. There were never possessed in the first place.
So any pastor conducting deliverance are working against the will of God, perhaps they are ignorant of scriptures too.

Pastors were suppose to educate these people of their rights in Christ rather than declaring them having demons which they ignorantly accepted.
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by Judeudochukwu(m): 12:35pm On Oct 29, 2019
We all need to know the truth ,we all have been derailed by our different doctrines,there is no place in the Bible God preached against marine spirits ,let's get it straight ,rather he used himself as a typical example , he come to this world and gave a typical example with himself according to the Bible in Genesis in the process of creation the Lord gave water where it will be and gave Darkness where it will be, he never came and destroyed water rather he gave them a portion now for those of us saying things against water you need to know Your Bible remember in the Bible also he said we all must be baptized where are we going to be baptized, it is in that same water you are criticizing ,now let me get something straight before you succeed in this life before you Excel,you must have a water permit what do I mean by what a permit Water permit means a licence
. Now when Jesus came into this world he met John the Baptist and he took his water permit what do I mean water permit John the Baptist said this you are the person that is meant to baptize me but Jesus said no you are the one to do it and immediately after he was baptized a dove came and a voice was heard from the third heavens saying this is my beloved son now think, was there any place in the Bible where a voice was hard on the surface of the earth but rather a voice was heard only when Jesus was at the middle of the river now if you see someone at the middle of the river what will you call that person is it not Mami water ,let us not deceive ourselves.

after his baptism his ministry continued he never came and said bad about water spirit rather he came to keep it right remember the Bible said he never came to destroy the laws of Moses rather he came to keep it right.in every kingdom theere are good and bad people, remember all good things today comes from water ,from Genesis to revelation every thing Good used as an example is water ,now remember God hid the foundation of this world in water ,also remember the holy spirit also is hidden in river ,if your not baptized in river you can't make heaven that's what the Bible said ,you can't do anything without water ,can you live without water? No ,now why do you say bad about them ,every thing on Earth today is made of spirits ,so marine world has good and bad people the same way this world have good and bad people,

I am not going to talk about those who have asked you to fast and pray, or have tried fasting and praying for you. You yourself can better tell the result so far. Was it successfully? Does it stop the effects? Does it stop her from coming to you? Does the fast and prayers made her forgot you? Were you delivered as said?

The Truth you know and practice sets you free. This is why we keep telling people the truth so that they know and be free.
Still on the truth and reality, you must be a man. Have understanding of your world to help you rule your world. Every mariner has a marine spouse. Take this from me. Therefore stop crying foul.
You see one thing my dear. The truth about life and activities of life is that things happens to us the way we have understanding and dealings with things. Just like the igbo adage tat says, ka onye syṅaa ụkwa ka ụkwa si aṅaa ya.

Even when you marry a wife and keep at home. Refusing to take knowledge of her, she wonwhy you be happy with you. Should you except her to be happy, you are just deceiving yourself for she wont be happy likewise when she is not doing her best to make you proud as a wife. It’s high time we gain understanding of the truth and stop deceiving ourselves over spirituality for things of the spirits has no confusion (even though ofeke thinks otherwise).

Many has cases such as yours, presently and in the past. Some have dealt with theirs in truthful manner, having positive results that made it the past while some ignores the truth and have to continue suffering the effects making it present and future.

I ask you make peace with her, accept her being and the union to help your earthly mission. You aren’t doing better and she is not happy. The very reason she asked you accept her to help permit. She need your permission to help your success. It’s a spiritual mandate and you can’t do without her. I repeat, you can’t do without her.

Do you know why?
We have many forces that has to do with our destinies as I have explained earlier at light house of wisdom where knowledge rules.

We have our chi _ guardian angel whom we known as chi edu m ụwa. This is a spirit that was assigned to you in the realm of spirit before birth to help oversee your earthly mission. He has parts to play different from your realm of origin (who are like key to your life and movement) here on earth. They control your destiny!
The destiny is the reason they permit your chi.

Now, we talk about your marine spouse. The marine spouse is another helper, a destiny helper who help in supervision. She /he at the cause of duty, because she loves and cares may make one demand or another. Here, the demand doesn’t matter even though. Don’t your earthly wife make demands? What about your earthly friends, doesn’t he/she makes demand?.
So what’s the difference when your marine spouse asked for something that pleases her? So it doesn’t matter her demand but your understanding over the demand: that’s what matters. The reason people are suffering today. Ignorant!

Because of her spiritual powers, she has the ability to delay or put sand sand for your garri. That’s to say, delaying your destiny when you aren’t in peace, agreement and accord with her. This is where wisdom set in.
Been in marriage with her peacefully doesn’t refused you from getting married today or tomorrow to any earthly woman of your choice. But then, through ritual sacrifices which is known as peace and unity (i dị n’otu na n’otú), you have her permits and enjoy your world as nature permit. No spirit works agains nature over mankind. Its only possible upon our spiritual ignorance.

Wisdom asked you to acknowledge these spiritual being.
How?
You may ask.
Through spiritual sacrifeces!

Its not enough to know, say or understand you are a mariner.
No, it’s not enough when you can’t do the necessary.
This is why I often says, the truth you know and practice, sets your free.

Why?
Its because our knowledge asked for actions.

This is why it’s said “blessed are those who knows themselves”.
Man know yourself!
First thing!

When you do, next: YOU MIND YOURSELF!

When you mind yourself, it’s then you have to disregard looking at me perhaps to do as I do.
You aren’t me and I am not you.
Don’t seek to know more about me and activities going on with me the moment you should mind yourself. Such is a path of ofeke leading to ruin.

Everyone with his up and down hence our individual destinies.
Do you know or have you been told that our destiny aren’t the same?

If it’s true that our destiny aren’t same because it’s true, that’s to say there is a possibility that the force behind our individual destinies asked for different sacrifices. This is why you must mind yourself. What I did to protect my destiny must be different from what you have to do to protect yours.

Pay your dues as your world demand to champion your course. Stop deceiving yourself.

Haven said the truth I know as a truth sayer, marine priest and a mariner. I wish you get knowledge and understanding of your world to help you rule your world.

Don’t run away from your responsibility. Ife anaghị eme na nkịtị – things don’t just happen for nothing. To make things happen, there must be a cause.

You have a prize to pay for your destiny to make manifest. No successful man or woman on earth who didn’t pay his/her prize. The prize in spirit realm is known as sacrifices.
Sacrifices causes effects!
No tree that stand gidigbam without roots.

Going down the roots you don’t just see a root but many roots. Among them are tap root. Our chi is like a tap root while other forces are the roots that stand with the tap root (round about the tree).

Its not only the tap root that helps a tree to withstand breeze and winds when it blows but by the help of other roots, it stand gidigbam.

Other root can’t help stand the tree alone without the tap root this is why even when you cut off every other root, you have to dig deep finding the tap root before the tree falls.

Its ignorant to say eye is nothing because you have a leg. It’s foolish to assume mouth is more important than the nose. When you say I don’t need a tongue, it’s because you lack knowledge of spoken words.
All the organs and parts that makes the body are useful and none should be neglected.

Sometimes we feel pains in some part of the body. That result alone simply tells us this part has been at work. Be wise not to neglect response. Treat the part with caution to help it continue its duty otherwise it keep suffering you.

Don’t just say its a worthless or useless left hand or left leg and have to ignore it. No, but then, respond to it with treatment. This is like when we get disturbed from a marine spouse or from the ancestors or from a deity as found in our hometown. If they have nothing to do with you and your destiny, they won’t call for disturbances. Therefore, you must do your best to respond to their disturbances when matter arises. The moment you done with, they report with happiness. Giving support to make life better for you. This is wisdom and the truth you sought for.
Be wise to help you rule your word. Wisdom is profitable to direct.
Get knowledge, in all your get, get understanding of the truth.
More light on your path as angels guide us all.

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Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by engrsyer(m): 12:21am On Dec 15, 2019
Excellent right up but many would not believe you, in fact they will say you are possessed, all is because you are told them the truth
Judeudochukwu:
We all need to know the truth ,we all have been derailed by our different doctrines,there is no place in the Bible God preached against marine spirits ,let's get it straight ,rather he used himself as a typical example , he come to this world and gave a typical example with himself according to the Bible in Genesis in the process of creation the Lord gave water where it will be and gave Darkness where it will be, he never came and destroyed water rather he gave them a portion now for those of us saying things against water you need to know Your Bible remember in the Bible also he said we all must be baptized where are we going to be baptized, it is in that same water you are criticizing ,now let me get something straight before you succeed in this life before you Excel,you must have a water permit what do I mean by what a permit Water permit means a licence
. Now when Jesus came into this world he met John the Baptist and he took his water permit what do I mean water permit John the Baptist said this you are the person that is meant to baptize me but Jesus said no you are the one to do it and immediately after he was baptized a dove came and a voice was heard from the third heavens saying this is my beloved son now think, was there any place in the Bible where a voice was hard on the surface of the earth but rather a voice was heard only when Jesus was at the middle of the river now if you see someone at the middle of the river what will you call that person is it not Mami water ,let us not deceive ourselves.

after his baptism his ministry continued he never came and said bad about water spirit rather he came to keep it right remember the Bible said he never came to destroy the laws of Moses rather he came to keep it right.in every kingdom theere are good and bad people, remember all good things today comes from water ,from Genesis to revelation every thing Good used as an example is water ,now remember God hid the foundation of this world in water ,also remember the holy spirit also is hidden in river ,if your not baptized in river you can't make heaven that's what the Bible said ,you can't do anything without water ,can you live without water? No ,now why do you say bad about them ,every thing on Earth today is made of spirits ,so marine world has good and bad people the same way this world have good and bad people,

I am not going to talk about those who have asked you to fast and pray, or have tried fasting and praying for you. You yourself can better tell the result so far. Was it successfully? Does it stop the effects? Does it stop her from coming to you? Does the fast and prayers made her forgot you? Were you delivered as said?

The Truth you know and practice sets you free. This is why we keep telling people the truth so that they know and be free.
Still on the truth and reality, you must be a man. Have understanding of your world to help you rule your world. Every mariner has a marine spouse. Take this from me. Therefore stop crying foul.
You see one thing my dear. The truth about life and activities of life is that things happens to us the way we have understanding and dealings with things. Just like the igbo adage tat says, ka onye syṅaa ụkwa ka ụkwa si aṅaa ya.

Even when you marry a wife and keep at home. Refusing to take knowledge of her, she wonwhy you be happy with you. Should you except her to be happy, you are just deceiving yourself for she wont be happy likewise when she is not doing her best to make you proud as a wife. It’s high time we gain understanding of the truth and stop deceiving ourselves over spirituality for things of the spirits has no confusion (even though ofeke thinks otherwise).

Many has cases such as yours, presently and in the past. Some have dealt with theirs in truthful manner, having positive results that made it the past while some ignores the truth and have to continue suffering the effects making it present and future.

I ask you make peace with her, accept her being and the union to help your earthly mission. You aren’t doing better and she is not happy. The very reason she asked you accept her to help permit. She need your permission to help your success. It’s a spiritual mandate and you can’t do without her. I repeat, you can’t do without her.

Do you know why?
We have many forces that has to do with our destinies as I have explained earlier at light house of wisdom where knowledge rules.

We have our chi _ guardian angel whom we known as chi edu m ụwa. This is a spirit that was assigned to you in the realm of spirit before birth to help oversee your earthly mission. He has parts to play different from your realm of origin (who are like key to your life and movement) here on earth. They control your destiny!
The destiny is the reason they permit your chi.

Now, we talk about your marine spouse. The marine spouse is another helper, a destiny helper who help in supervision. She /he at the cause of duty, because she loves and cares may make one demand or another. Here, the demand doesn’t matter even though. Don’t your earthly wife make demands? What about your earthly friends, doesn’t he/she makes demand?.
So what’s the difference when your marine spouse asked for something that pleases her? So it doesn’t matter her demand but your understanding over the demand: that’s what matters. The reason people are suffering today. Ignorant!

Because of her spiritual powers, she has the ability to delay or put sand sand for your garri. That’s to say, delaying your destiny when you aren’t in peace, agreement and accord with her. This is where wisdom set in.
Been in marriage with her peacefully doesn’t refused you from getting married today or tomorrow to any earthly woman of your choice. But then, through ritual sacrifices which is known as peace and unity (i dị n’otu na n’otú), you have her permits and enjoy your world as nature permit. No spirit works agains nature over mankind. Its only possible upon our spiritual ignorance.

Wisdom asked you to acknowledge these spiritual being.
How?
You may ask.
Through spiritual sacrifeces!

Its not enough to know, say or understand you are a mariner.
No, it’s not enough when you can’t do the necessary.
This is why I often says, the truth you know and practice, sets your free.

Why?
Its because our knowledge asked for actions.

This is why it’s said “blessed are those who knows themselves”.
Man know yourself!
First thing!

When you do, next: YOU MIND YOURSELF!

When you mind yourself, it’s then you have to disregard looking at me perhaps to do as I do.
You aren’t me and I am not you.
Don’t seek to know more about me and activities going on with me the moment you should mind yourself. Such is a path of ofeke leading to ruin.

Everyone with his up and down hence our individual destinies.
Do you know or have you been told that our destiny aren’t the same?

If it’s true that our destiny aren’t same because it’s true, that’s to say there is a possibility that the force behind our individual destinies asked for different sacrifices. This is why you must mind yourself. What I did to protect my destiny must be different from what you have to do to protect yours.

Pay your dues as your world demand to champion your course. Stop deceiving yourself.

Haven said the truth I know as a truth sayer, marine priest and a mariner. I wish you get knowledge and understanding of your world to help you rule your world.

Don’t run away from your responsibility. Ife anaghị eme na nkịtị – things don’t just happen for nothing. To make things happen, there must be a cause.

You have a prize to pay for your destiny to make manifest. No successful man or woman on earth who didn’t pay his/her prize. The prize in spirit realm is known as sacrifices.
Sacrifices causes effects!
No tree that stand gidigbam without roots.

Going down the roots you don’t just see a root but many roots. Among them are tap root. Our chi is like a tap root while other forces are the roots that stand with the tap root (round about the tree).

Its not only the tap root that helps a tree to withstand breeze and winds when it blows but by the help of other roots, it stand gidigbam.

Other root can’t help stand the tree alone without the tap root this is why even when you cut off every other root, you have to dig deep finding the tap root before the tree falls.

Its ignorant to say eye is nothing because you have a leg. It’s foolish to assume mouth is more important than the nose. When you say I don’t need a tongue, it’s because you lack knowledge of spoken words.
All the organs and parts that makes the body are useful and none should be neglected.

Sometimes we feel pains in some part of the body. That result alone simply tells us this part has been at work. Be wise not to neglect response. Treat the part with caution to help it continue its duty otherwise it keep suffering you.

Don’t just say its a worthless or useless left hand or left leg and have to ignore it. No, but then, respond to it with treatment. This is like when we get disturbed from a marine spouse or from the ancestors or from a deity as found in our hometown. If they have nothing to do with you and your destiny, they won’t call for disturbances. Therefore, you must do your best to respond to their disturbances when matter arises. The moment you done with, they report with happiness. Giving support to make life better for you. This is wisdom and the truth you sought for.
Be wise to help you rule your word. Wisdom is profitable to direct.
Get knowledge, in all your get, get understanding of the truth.
More light on your path as angels guide us all.
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by kimco(m): 1:54am On Dec 15, 2019
unstoppable51:
From #feedmejesus.com


Nothing has made Christianity in Africa look like a serious joke more than the import of foreign beliefs and practices from African Traditional Religion and several other religions, corrupting the simplicity of Life we have in Christ.

Of all these borrowed beliefs and practices, the subject of spiritual wife, spiritual husband and spiritual babies seem to the most prevalent in this region and other places where Christians still struggle to understand basic Bible doctrines.

In Africa, it is not uncommon to find naive believers running from pillar to post in search of “special deliverance” from “wives” or “husbands” they believed to be married to in the realm of the Spirit.

If you had a dream where you are sitting together with kids on a dinning table and a beautiful young lady serves you food, the most common advice you will get when you wake up will be to meet a “very powerful” man of God to be delivered from a spiritual wife and babies.

What if you happen to have sex in the dream, especially with an unknown short black man? You will be subjected to several days of different deliverance sessions to be freed from the strongholds of a very powerful spiritual husband.

It is widely believed dreams like these will result to problems in marriage, business, academics and serious “bad-luck” in life generally if nothing is done about them.

So you find genuine Spirit-filled Christians entering all sorts of places in a bid to get “divorced” from their spiritual wives and husbands.

But what does the Bible truly say concerning the believer in Christ and spiritual marriage?

First, the believer in Christ is possessed of God spirit, soul and body. He is God’s property bought with the precious blood of His Son.

“For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.” 1 Corinthians 6:20

The above verse says both your body and spirit are God’s own since He paid a price for them.

Having purchased you for Himself, He joined you together with Christ via His Spirit.

“But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.” 1 Corinthians 6:17


Like an already purchased item would be marked and separated so no one except the owner tampers with it, God also marked your spirit, soul and body “mine” so no other strange spirit husband goes near you.

“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:13-14

You are now joined or married to only one man - Jesus. And by that union, He has delivered you forever from the power and reach of darkness.

“Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son.” Ephesians 1:12-13

Peter in his writing also gave witness to this complete deliverance we have in Christ.

“But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light.” 1 Peter 2:9.

So don’t let a mere dream disturb the peace of your heart nor let any man trouble you with dream interpretations that do not have concrete footing in the scripture.

The believer in Christ does not, cannot and will never ever have any other spiritual husband apart from Christ. This is what the Bible teaches.

Do not take whatever any demon might have said at various “deliverance” prayer sessions as a basis to believe in spirit husbands or spirit wives. According to Jesus, the Devil is a liar and the father of it. He is an expert at presenting lies as truth. Only the Word holds the truth and we should stick to it.

What do you do if you happen to dream of such things today?
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It’s quite simple. You praise the name of the Lord, hand over the dream to God and go about your daily life like nothing happened.

If the Lord drops an interpretation in your heart (not contrary to the scriptures like the idea of Spirit spouse and kids) you pray and run with it. If you do not receive any special interpretation about it, you still trust His Word. Either way, be at complete rest, your Saviour got your back.

Most times, dreams like the two above are just our bodies and mind working together to bring the need for intimacy to attention.

Let no dream of any kind terrify or take away your joy!

Find more revelational teachings and answers to Bible questions like:
1. Can a Christian lose his Salvation
2. What does it mean to "fall from Grace"?
3. How to deal with Strife and much more
From https://www.feedmejesus.com

Your first paragraph is the most ironic post i have seen on nairaland. Im sure you know why.
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by zimbolaa(m): 2:38pm On Dec 18, 2019
paxonel:
what works are you talking about?
Miracles?
I did not rule out miracles o, miracles do exist for sure, but not delivering evil spirits from someone who already have the holy spirit.
I just quoted scriptures saying everyone who believe in christ have the holy spirit.
Everyone seen going to church are christians, they have believed, the are not satan.
Satan has believed does not mean that humans who believe may also be satan there is no such possibility going by the scripture i gave you in 1 john 4:2
Except the scripture is lying .
ofcourse yes!
Christians can be used by the devil to do wrong just like anyone else, but that doesnt mean they are possessed by evil spirits where you will now go and deliver them.
If you study Ananias and Saphira very well, they were purnished for their wrong doing. Not that they were delivered from demons as pastors today are doing to ignorant christians
i have told they all have believed in christ therefore they are all christians.
They were redeemed ! They have the holy spirit embedded in them given to them freely and they dont know, they are confessing rubbish.

And though there are ignorant ones among them who still commit sin but they were saved already. There were never possessed in the first place.
So any pastor conducting deliverance are working against the will of God, perhaps they are ignorant of scriptures too.

Pastors were suppose to educate these people of their rights in Christ rather than declaring them having demons which they ignorantly accepted.

Christ's injunction in Mark 16:17 is supposed to be applied where then?
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 5:27pm On Dec 18, 2019
zimbolaa:


Christ's injunction in Mark 16:17 is supposed to be applied where then?
THEY shall cast out demons.
THEY refers to Christians casting out demons from who?
Certainly from non Christians : example Muslims.

A situation where a Christian is casting out demon from a fellow Christian is a scam, deception.
For instance, pastor D. K Olukoya or Chris Okafor singled out a Christian in their church for deliverance (because a Muslim cannot possibly be in that church). That is a scam, contradiction and deception to the highest order.
But a lot of Christians don't know it is.
Why?
Because they have never asked themselves this question : was there any case recorded in the bible where a demon was casted out from a Christian?
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by zimbolaa(m): 6:48am On Dec 19, 2019
paxonel:
THEY shall cast out demons.
THEY refers to Christians casting out demons from who?
Certainly from non Christians : example Muslims.

A situation where a Christian is casting out demon from a fellow Christian is a scam, deception.
For instance, pastor D. K Olukoya or Chris Okafor singled out a Christian in their church for deliverance (because a Muslim cannot possibly be in that church). That is a scam, contradiction and deception to the highest order.
But a lot of Christians don't know it is.
Why?
Because they have never asked themselves this question : was there any case recorded in the bible where a demon was casted out from a Christian?
In essence, what you're saying is that a possessed non-christian can be conducted deliverance and led to Christ. After that, there's no need for any subsequent deliverance?
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 7:16am On Dec 19, 2019
zimbolaa:

In essence, what you're saying is that a possessed non-christian can be conducted deliverance and led to Christ. After that, there's no need for any subsequent deliverance?
that is exactly my point
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by zimbolaa(m): 9:56am On Dec 19, 2019
paxonel:
that is exactly my point
Have you ever read about the return of evil spirits? Luke 11:24--26
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 10:27am On Dec 19, 2019
zimbolaa:

Have you ever read about the return of evil spirits? Luke 11:24--26
there are no evidence in the scripture that it is involving a Christian.
As a matter of fact there was nothing like Christianity as at the time just Jesus spoked that because he has not been crucified.
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by zimbolaa(m): 10:51am On Dec 19, 2019
paxonel:
there are no evidence in the scripture that it is involving a Christian.
As a matter of fact there was nothing like Christianity as at the time just Jesus spoked that because he has not been crucified.
Which miracle or words of Christ in those days involved a Christian? In other words, everything Jesus spoke about before He died are not for Christians since there were no Christians then?
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 1:53pm On Dec 19, 2019
zimbolaa:

Which miracle or words of Christ in those days involved a Christian? In other words, everything Jesus spoke about before He died are not for Christians since there were no Christians then?
don't drag it out from what I'm saying.
I didn't say the word is not for Christians to read.
I say the illustration Jesus Christ put out there did not involved any Christian.
I mean, a Christian could not possibly be the one that evil spirit was casted out and the evil spirit now came back again with seven other evil spirits as there was no Christianity then
Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by zimbolaa(m): 4:35pm On Dec 19, 2019
paxonel:
don't drag it out from what I'm saying.
I didn't say the word is not for Christians to read.
I say the illustration Jesus Christ put out there did not involved any Christian.
I mean, a Christian could not possibly be the one that evil spirit was casted out and the evil spirit now came back again with seven other evil spirits as there was no Christianity then
lol, even though I know where you're headed bro, your teaching is misleading and poisonous to Christendom. I agree with you that a Holy Ghost filled child of God cannot be possessed by an evil spirit, however, the truth is that not all Christians are Holy Ghost filled. You forgot the fact that Christianity today is just a nomenclature unlike in the days of old when Christians were like Christ, filled with Holy Ghost and power. Today, we have Christian prostitutes, robbers, thieves, murderers, fornicators, gays, necromancers etc. They all come to Church and receive communion. The truth is that a good number of them don't do these things because they love doing them but because a force stronger than them is controlling them and as such, only deliverance until they're totally free is recommended. That is why when Jesus converted Mary Magdalene, he didn't just stop there but rather went on to cast out seven demons from her. So, pastors who are in deliverance ministries are doing the right thing. Other pastors envy them and talk rubbish because they don't have the power to cast out demons. I am not surprised though for even Christ was so attacked by Pharisees when they said he was casting out demons by the power of Beelzebub. Today, we no longer have Pharisees but fake Prophets who go about attacking men of God who are into deliverance ministries, misleading their members with wrong doctrines. As long as we continue to have Christians in our Churches who are not Holy Ghost filled, routine deliverance is necessary until the evil spirit possessing them gives way for the Holy Ghost to possess them. A Christian that is not Holy Ghost filled is a potential vessel for evil spirits any day anytime especially those ones who engage in evil communication with negative voices in their mind.

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Re: The Truth About Spiritual Wife & Husband According To The Bible by paxonel(m): 9:48pm On Dec 19, 2019
zimbolaa:

lol, even though I know where you're headed bro, your teaching is misleading and poisonous to Christendom.
then you have to prove that it is

I agree with you that a Holy Ghost filled child of God cannot be possessed by an evil spirit, however, the truth is that not all Christians are Holy Ghost filled.
it seems you don't know who the holy ghost is and what he stands for. Do you think the holy ghost is any mans birth right? God is not a respecter of any man. On the contrary that not all christians are holy ghost filled:

Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.(all of them, no exemption)

Remember these people receiving the holy ghost were regarded as unclean people by the Jews. God did not wait for any of them to repent of their uncleanliness. Infact, Peter did not finish what he was saying when the holy ghost fell on them, they all marvelled.

Now, think about that.

You forgot the fact that Christianity today is just a nomenclature unlike in the days of old when Christians were like Christ, filled with Holy Ghost and power.
that is not correct!
There is no difference between the Christianity of bible days and the Christianity of today, The only difference is time. Things have changed with time, but it is still the same Christianity, the same Jesus Christ in us, the same God.

Today, we have Christian prostitutes, robbers, thieves, murderers, fornicators, gays, necromancers etc. They all come to Church and receive communion.
the same kind of people were also Christians in those days, infact terrible were used by God. Even Peter himself was not even a good person.

The truth is that a good number of them don't do these things because they love doing them but because a force stronger than them is controlling them and as such, only deliverance until they're totally free is recommended.
the emboldened is the problem i have with Africans.
We just assume there is a force controlling people but that is not true.
We Africans are too primitive, superstitious and are afraid for nothing.

That is why when Jesus converted Mary Magdalene, he didn't just stop there but rather went on to cast out seven demons from her.
you are yet to prove that Mary Magdalene was a Christian as at the time Jesus casted demons away from her.

So, pastors who are in deliverance ministries are doing the right thing.
no they are not!
Let them go cast out demons from non Christians like Muslims and leave Christians alone then i will know they are doing the right thing

Other pastors envy them and talk rubbish because they don't have the power to cast out demons. I am not surprised though for even Christ was so attacked by Pharisees when they said he was casting out demons by the power of Beelzebub. Today, we no longer have Pharisees but fake Prophets who go about attacking men of God who are into deliverance ministries, misleading their members with wrong doctrines. As long as we continue to have Christians in our Churches who are not Holy Ghost filled, routine deliverance is necessary until the evil spirit possessing them gives way for the Holy Ghost to possess them. A Christian that is not Holy Ghost filled is a potential vessel for evil spirits any day anytime especially those ones who engage in evil communication with negative voices in their mind.
I tell you one truth. If we have just one pastor in Nigeria that is doing the right thing, no body will critize him.

Matthew 22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.(criticize him anymore).

This happen because Jesus was able to explain himself.

When you hear people continue criticizing a pastor without stopping somewhere it means there is something the pastor is doing that is not right, therefore he cannot explain himself.

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