OkCornel:


Soothe yourself. Nothing do you, at this rate we should be expecting a thread from you blaming Jesus for World war 2

AntiChristian:

WW2 was a secular war.

The deaths cause by Jesus are as follows;
https://www.nairaland.com/5581199/meek-jesus-vs-cruel-jesus
https://www.nairaland.com/5581305/after-moses-joshua-continues-terror
https://www.nairaland.com/5581249/punishment-not-following-jesus-god
https://www.nairaland.com/5581156/untold-stories-bible-tell-us
https://www.nairaland.com/5581273/terrific-jesus-commands-moses-kill
https://www.nairaland.com/5583033/more-terror-lord-jesus

OkCornel:


But if that same world war 2 happened in the time of the Bible or Quran, and one of the warring party retells the story of how “God” supported them, you’ll be here holding God or Jesus responsible for such

AntiChristian:


For Example

The Lord Commanded:

Numbers 31: 17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

What do you have to say to this? This is your God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive.

Do you want more verse?

AntiChristian:


No where in the Bible was Christian or Christianity mentioned by Jesus or his disciples. Only in your dreams!

Your're deluded for Christ!
You can even lie for Christ!

Maximus69:


The Bible was written for people who have brains to think NOT for those who needs a book that will keep telling them it's the word of God whereas there is no sense in it!

So the Bible should tell you that the man knows Jesus even when this man released his donkey at the hearing of the title "Lord"!

You're truly an intellectual Sir!

OkCornel:


Lol, and the Lord there is Jesus?


Abeg, why aren’t you blaming Jesus for World war 2 na

AntiChristian:


I question your own intellectual sagacity O JW! The man was actually greater than Jesus to have overlooked his sin!

I like that man. Do you know his name?

Maximus69:


You would have heard his name if ~

©He had fought with Jesus' followers over it.

©He followed them to the scene of events.

©He called the police on his mobile.

©He reported the case to EFCC.

But he never did all that because he was a staunch adherent of the teachings of the man who said "sell everything you have, give the MONEY to the poor so that you can have treasures in heaven, then come and follow me" Mark 10:12

So he wasn't like you a Muslims who wants to go to heaven but can't borrow the prophet of Allah an ordinary donkey!

AntiChristian:


Is Jesus not Lord anymore?

OkCornel:


Context, context, context. Was Jesus the only person addressed as “Lord” in the Bible?

AntiChristian:




Are you denying that Jesus is God now? Is he not the greatest Lord anymore?

AntiChristian:
The Biblical Jesus Told his Disciples to Take a Donkey and Colt Without the Owner's Permission

Matthew 21:1-3
As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage on the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two disciples, 2saying to them, "Go to the village ahead of you, and at once you will find a donkey tied there, with her colt by her. Untie them and bring them to me. 3If anyone says anything to you, tell him that the Lord needs them, and he will send them right away."

I don't think that Jesus' orders were ethical at this point. You must ask the owner for permission to borrow something from him or at least buy it or rent it from him. Some will argue that Jesus needed the donkey to fulfill a prophecy. But why would God want Jesus to commit a sin in order to fulfill a prophecy?

Ken4Christ:


Because he is Lord. He owns everything. He just didn't abuse it. At that time, he exercised his Lordship.

OkCornel:


Nope, I’m asking you a question. Was Jesus the only person addressed as Lord in the scriptures?

And in that Old Testament you quoted, does Lord there refer to Jesus? Or God Almighty (or rather whom Jewish authors understood as God Almighty)


Look, I’m not here to defend religious texts, I can see flaws in religious texts to spark up fierce debates. The ones you’re coming up with are laughable to be honest.

AntiChristian:


OK, Who is the Lord that commanded Moses, Joshua and Others to kill man/ woman/ Children, keep young virgins for themselves, Cut trees, etc.

Options

A. Jesus + Father + Spirit

B. Father=Yahweh= Jehovah

C. Satan=Lucifer

D. Humans

E. Angels or Demons

OkCornel:


Option B nicks it. What does this have to do with the OP?

AntiChristian:


So you believed Jesus is not one with God as state in John 10:30?

OkCornel:


There you go, one of the trinity confused fellas.

Obviously Jesus and God are of one mind. But obviously as Father and Son, they are distinct.


Well unless you want to show us where Jesus claimed to be the Father Himself.

That notwithstanding, although God & Jesus are always in agreement with the son subordinate to the will of the Father, there are certain things only the Father knows, and no one else. For example, the time of Jesus’ return is an example.

AntiChristian:


I am not a Christian. As you can see I am antichristian so you can't call me a trinity confused fella.
So how is your explanation of John 1:1-4?

AntiChristian:


I am not a Christian. As you can see I am antichristian so you can't call me a trinity confused fella.
So how is your explanation of John 1:1-4?

OkCornel:


Never called you a Christian. I assume you’re familiar with the trinity doctrine which is another controversial matter in Christendom.

BlueAngel444:


Controversial how?

AntiChristian:


So if it were you that owns the colt and someone comes in this way will you accept it? What happens to seeking permission by Gentle Jesus?

Ken4Christ:


Our Lord Jesus is not someone. All things were made by him. He is gentle. When he wanted to use Peter's boat, he sought permission. If he didn't in this case, you can't question him. A servant does not question his master. He was humble enough to submit to death, otherwise no one could kill him.

OkCornel:


We have to go back to the language it was originally written.

Anyways, I’ll spare you the time and worry.

God the Father is the source.
The son is the product.

The son has free will to do as He please, but rather subordinates to the will of the Father.

Well unless your argument is the product and the source can be the same and take the same form/shape.


Yeah, the trigger word “and the word was God” merely shows the product (Son) originated from the source (Father).

It’s not rocket science

AntiChristian:


I'm taking about John 1:1-4 not only John 1:1

AntiChristian:


Surprised at your folly using style to preach to me. Jesus was truly gentle. Seems u haven't read my other threads? Jesus killed pass anything!
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He submitted to death? Who controls death? And why did Jesus' parents fled from the evil king that wanted to kill him? Why the warning from an Angel?

Ken4Christ:


Why the warning from an angel? What a foolish question. You expected infant Jesus to fight? The parents were human. How could they have fought against the Romans soldiers? But Jesus as a man could not be killed. He willingly died. What is your case? I don't really get you. Do you know you will stand before him to be judged by him?

AntiChristian:


Call me foolish! Jesus too called people foolish like you!

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

I expect your infant God to protect himself from the impending harm rather than his showing his weakness by seeking protection from his human parents! Why did the angel had to warn them? Isn't your infant God all-knowing? You mean the Roman soldiers can kill God?

Jesus is not fit to judge me or anyone! Anyone who is born of a woman, drank breast milk, was circumcised, was gripped by fear, wept, suffered, enjoyed as a human, excreted, urinated, slept, prayed by putting his head on the floor and died is unfit!

Ken4Christ:


I pity you so much. You don't know the doom that awaits you. For your information, our Lord Jesus did not operate in the fullness of his divinity on earth. He was fully man on earth. That is why he had to be anointed by the Holy Spirit to operate in the supernatural.

But now that he is glorified, he has the ability to operate in the fullness of his divine power. And when he appears the second time to put the devil where he belongs, even Major Generals and Kings will be looking for where to hide from his face.

Revelation 6:15-17.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

If you like don't believe it. If the grave could not stop Jesus from rising from the dead, the sky also and powers of darkness cannot stop him from coming down from heaven. There is delay in his coming back because God is giving opportunity to people like you to repent.

AntiChristian:


Jesus that was running helter shelter during his time for soldiers not to kill him. I pity you too for believing such lies!