hi, i want to ask because i'm feeling depressed thinking about it. i believe everyone is being used by the politicians with all their wealth so i don't have much time to debate politics though i try to make a good life for myself. but i'm depressed because i'm having a rethought about this. just heard Trump mock the longest serving member of the US congress John Dingell, and he was dead about 10 months ago. and while on twitter, i just heard he attacked the Christianity Magazine, because they criticized him. So it got me thinking, many christians say he is chosen by God and call him Cyrus and other things, now i'm here thinking if that the behavior of mocking dead people is what we should accept as christians? i'm trying to see if Jesus told us its cool to mock the dead, in life or politics, or in any scenario.

1StopRudeness:
We were first humans before religion came..

can you explain more because any one can read meaning into that. so you saying aside religion, it's good for you to mock a dead man? are people this evil?

1StopRudeness:
We were first humans before religion came..if a human rapes, curse, or murders....these are all human traits not religious trait...

then what are you now saying in respect to my ramblings?

Yarduni:


can you explain more because any one can read meaning into that. so you saying aside religion, it's good for you to mock a dead man? are people this evil?

Read again

1StopRudeness:


Read again

you are not answering my question joor

Yarduni:


then what are you now saying in respect to my ramblings?

U were trying to connect trumps bad behavior with his Christain status claim...I’m only saying bad behaviour is a human trait...and not a Christian or religious trait....

Ofcourse it’s not okay to mock the dead weda, just because he’s a christain behaving badly doesn’t make mocking of the dead ok.... trump is just one Christian....he isn’t even a model or template of a true Christian...so I don’t get why u are trying to juxtapose trumps attitude with a standard christain trait

It is human nature to make mockery of everything. I can't judge him though.

1StopRudeness:


U were trying to connect trumps bad behavior with his Christain status claim...I’m only saying bad behaviour is a human trait...and not a Christian or religious trait....

Ofcourse it’s not okay to mock the dead weda, just because he’s a christain behaving badly doesn’t make mocking of the dead ok.... trump is just one Christian....he isn’t even a model or template of a true Christian...so I don’t get why u are trying to juxtapose trumps attitude with a standard christain trait

because of the stream of high profile christian leaders who are coming out in support of it or not talking about it. I don;t understand how you don't see this as a real life issue, i have kids who i need to teach that this ain't right

b3llo:
It is human nature to make mockery of everything. I can't judge him though.

Exactly why I told the OP but he keeps saying he doesn’t understand....

Yarduni....if I claim to be a christain and I rape a girl or murder a man...will u go around asking people if it’s okay for Christians to rape and kill people...??

b3llo:
It is human nature to make mockery of everything. I can't judge him though.

it's true man is inherently bad, but then you mock a dead man 10 months passed and suggest he's looking from hell.. before you say fake news please, it's on tv

1StopRudeness:


Exactly why I told the OP but he keeps saying he doesn’t understand....

Yarduni....if I claim to be a christain and I rape a girl or murder a man...will u go around asking people if it’s okay for Christians to rape and kill people...??

as i was brought up, i know it's not ok to rape and kill people. it's never ok, i dont know about you? so if you claim you are christian and you do that, i'll feel depressed. We are on the same page here

Yarduni:


because of the stream of high profile christian leaders who are coming out in support of it or not talking about it. I don;t understand how you don't see this as a real life issue, i have kids who i need to teach that this ain't right

I’m sure u are graduate....if u conduct a research using 5000 test subject to test a drug efficacy ...and 10 test positive to ur investigation...u will be stupid to conclude that the drug works ....

I hope u get my analogy in relation to the context of this thread

1StopRudeness:


Exactly why I told the OP but he keeps saying he doesn’t understand....

Yarduni....if I claim to be a christain and I rape a girl or murder a man...will u go around asking people if it’s okay for Christians to rape and kill people...??

replace that christian with moslem or buddhist and you see that you are making my point. its a shame nowadays christianity is just a tag rather than the substance of the teachings of Jesus. don't fight yourself, we are on the same line

Yarduni:


as i was brought up, i know it's not ok to rape and kill people. it's never ok, i dont know about you? so if you claim you are christian and you do that, i'll feel depressed. We are on the same page here

The behaviors of humans all over the world is depressing....including politicians...politicians Re calculative people....they form familiarity and apologetic with a group just to get supporters...
You think obama is gay becos he supports the lgbt community??

1StopRudeness:



I’m sure u are graduate....if u conduct a research using 5000 test subject to test a drug efficacy ...and 10 test positive to ur investigation...u will be stupid to conclude that the drug works ....

I hope u get my analogy in relation to the context of this thread

don't go too far stating analogy thats all in your head. come down to reality. you have already agreed with what i'm saying. i don't know what else you want to prove

1StopRudeness:



The behaviors of humans all over the world is depressing....including politicians...politicians Re calculative people....they form familiarity and apologetic with a group just to get supporters...
You think obama is gay becos he supports the lgbt community??

thats the problem with you, i'm not going that path because if you try to equate a mans sin to another man's own, that's gross foolishness and if you are christian you better check yourself if you are saved. Stay on track

i need a civil right meaning opinion please, i'm not here to debate politics but current human nature. remember this guy is president, it influences alot of people including my kids

Yarduni:


don't go too far stating analogy thats all in your head. come down to reality. you have already agreed with what i'm saying. i don't know what else you want to prove

Ok...I’m glad we are on the same page....I don’t know when we both arrived the same page ..but that’s fine

Yarduni:


thats the problem with you, i'm not going that path because if you try to equate a mans sin to another man's own, that's gross foolishness and if you are christian you better check yourself if you are saved. Stay on track

But u know what’s right...right??

1StopRudeness:



But u know what’s right...right??

yes i know, because i have seen a live execution before that changed my reality, sorry for being graphic. even thinking that i would make fun of the man the guys were killing,a dead man even makes me feel so depressed.

Yarduni:


thats the problem with you, i'm not going that path because if you try to equate a mans sin to another man's own, that's gross foolishness and if you are christian you better check yourself if you are saved. Stay on track

U are funny...my comment u Quoted about trump nd obama was to let u know there’s no point putting a person on a pedestal of morality just because they call themselves Christians...they are politicians ...they lie a lot... and all u could come up with is call me foolish....that’s fine anyways....:but before u tell me to check my christain level...go read ur Bible well, u will realize u have no reason insulting me...we are just dialoging

1StopRudeness:


U were trying to connect trumps bad behavior with his Christain status claim...I’m only saying bad behaviour is a human trait...and not a Christian or religious trait....

Ofcourse it’s not okay to mock the dead weda, just because he’s a christain behaving badly doesn’t make mocking of the dead ok.... trump is just one Christian....he isn’t even a model or template of a true Christian...so I don’t get why u are trying to juxtapose trumps attitude with a standard christain trait

He's not a Christian now,but when he was with jews,they saw him as a Messiah and the evangelicals too supported him,but with the impeachment saga,they are all now denouncing
him

1StopRudeness:


U are funny...my comment u Quoted about trump nd obama was to let u know there’s no point putting a person on a pedestal of morality just because they call themselves Christians...they are politicians ...they lie a lot... and all u could come up with is call me foolish....that’s fine anyways....:but before u tell me to check my christain level...go read ur Bible well, u will realize u have no reason insulting me...we are just dialoging

Sorry about that. But it pisses me off as you dismiss trumps unhealthy talks about the dead, and then now judge obama because he supported gay marriage, you are creating a equivalency among two sins and how is that right as a christian? So does politics not affect human life? Because they are politicians they cant be spiritual or be righteous?

Yarduni:


Sorry about that. But it pisses me off as you dismiss trumps unhealthy talks about the dead, and then now judge obama because he supported gay marriage, you are creating a equivalency among two sins and how is that right as a christian? So does politics not affect human life? Because they are politicians they cant be spiritual or be righteous?

Clearly u misunderstood me, I ddnt dismiss trumps unhealthy talk, I condemn it.. ....infact I have packed Obama and trump in the same basket of hypocrisy and deception...they are both politicians who identify with a group (LGBt & Christians respectively) just to gains support for election numbers....
THe Bible is clear..by their fruit u shall know them....a tree can’t hide it’s fruit..we have seen trump’s fruits... as regards being the messiah/Cyrus of this time...nobody knows, its just mere speculation, a desperate and fallacious atempt to see prophesy a reality...


Ofcourse politics affect human life.....but in mordern politics it’s hard to see a real God fearing spirit filled christain as a politician....what we have now is what God already warned us about in the book of Samuel when isreal saidbthey wanted a king and not an invinsible God leading them

1StopRudeness:


Clearly u misunderstood me, I ddnt dismiss trumps unhealthy talk, I condemn it.. ....infact I have packed Obama and trump in the same basket of hypocrisy and deception...they are both politicians who identify with a group (LGBt & Christians respectively) just to gains support for election numbers....
THe Bible is clear..by their fruit u shall know them....a tree can’t hide it’s fruit..we have seen trump’s fruits... as regards being the messiah/Cyrus of this time...nobody knows, its just mere speculation, a desperate and fallacious atempt to see prophesy a reality...


Ofcourse politics affect human life.....but in mordern politics it’s hard to see a real God fearing spirit filled christain as a politician....what we have now is what God already warned us about in the book of Samuel when isreal saidbthey wanted a king and not an invinsible God leading them

100% true. you spot on, the way people mostly christians don't involve in politics is bad because what happens when good men do nothing, evil will reign. and trump is not doing christianity any good, it's getting worse. now christians are fighting themselves because of him? i thought he was supposed to bring everyone together?