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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Isoduwa(m): 3:35am On Dec 21, 2019 |
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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by 4Play(m): 4:05am On Dec 21, 2019 |
xpool: The examples you cite - murder, theft, pedophilia - involve cases where the perpetrator is acting without the consent of a victim (a child is unable to consent in the case of pedophilia). This is why it makes logical sense to condemn murder or theft. In the case of gay people, Africans are claiming that what consenting adults do with one another is wrong because its "abnormal." But within straight relationships, lots of couples engage in abnormal things. The question is what is the logic in being outraged about consented behavior that doesn't affect others? This thing about "promoting" homosexuality makes no sense to me since if you are straight, no one is going to convert you to a homosexual and the overwhelming majority of people will remain straight no matter the society (see western countries with a permissive outlook to homosexuals where heterosexuals remain the overwhelming majority). I suspect a lot of people who pursue this line of argument about westerners turning Africans gay harbour some homosexual inclinations themselves. 5 Likes |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by wirinet(m): 4:52am On Dec 21, 2019 |
oloriLFC:That's the bane of Africa, religion. Religion is our number one priority. We are more Catholic than the Pope, more Islam than the imam of mecca and more Jewish than Abraham. We are more concerned what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes than old dirty men marrying 13 year old girls as 4th wife. We are more appalled by other people's sexual choices than the raping of our collective wealth by a few elite. We are more obsessed with imposing our moral, religious and personal values on others, than actually living our lives by those values. Africa will remain the dark continent for a very long time. 4 Likes |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:03am On Dec 21, 2019 |
Neurotika: So because of their "homophobic inclinations" and because US is a powerful country, Zambia doesn't have d right to ask a foreign diplomat to leave? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:04am On Dec 21, 2019 |
oloriLFC: What makes u think d US isn't a worse hypocrite than African nations? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Nobody: 5:06am On Dec 21, 2019 |
planetx: I just hope for real that you're not this dull.. 4 Likes |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:07am On Dec 21, 2019 |
4Play: Are u aware that polygamy is a criminal offence in d US and other western countries? What rights do gays have that polygamist don't have based on ur argument? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:09am On Dec 21, 2019 |
wirinet: But in d US, polygamy is a criminal offence. I thought d US gives everyone d freedom to do whatever they want? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:11am On Dec 21, 2019 |
gypsey: So because of d fear of ban, Zambia can't take a decision it feels its in its best interest? Is Zambia d first country in d world to expel a US ambassador? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by themanderon: 5:13am On Dec 21, 2019 |
This man had better be careful before they unleash the CIA on him and his plane suddenly drops out of the sky. |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:14am On Dec 21, 2019 |
Minjim: But d US doesn't spare polygamist. Y should Africa spare gays? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:14am On Dec 21, 2019 |
themanderon: Story story |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:18am On Dec 21, 2019 |
KanuSE: Aren't u aware that polygamy is a crime in d US? Or are u saying it doesn't involve consenting adults? What happened to d "tenets of fundamental human rights and individual liberty" with regards to polygamy in d US? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by hope4nigeria(m): 5:19am On Dec 21, 2019 |
Neurotika:go there and they will behead you, gay is evil, God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of this singular act. If you don't change your ways, you are in for doom |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by themanderon: 5:23am On Dec 21, 2019 |
lexy2014: This is not story story it seems you need to Google the antics of the American government if they don't like your government and they have special interests in your country. They can make a whole President vanish into thin air. 1 Like |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:27am On Dec 21, 2019 |
themanderon: Pls name d countries in d world were d US have made their presidents "vanish into thin air" because of gay issue or any other issue? Y have d North Korean and Iranian leaders not "vanished into thin air" all these years? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by wirinet(m): 5:29am On Dec 21, 2019 |
lexy2014:Yes in theory it is, but polygamy is practiced in the US especially in fringe Christian communities. It's legal as long as you don't obtain multiple marriage licenses. Sister Wives' Defeat Polygamy Law in Federal Court |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:33am On Dec 21, 2019 |
wirinet: Not in theory. It is d law. That is y ur story says a woman went to court to enforce her rights. If it was just in theory, there will b no need 4 her to go to court. Even ur caveat about not obtaining multiple marriage licences, still corroborates d fact that d practice of polygamy doesn't have govt backing because how do u obtain one license when u are marrying more than one person? Are u going to marry them at d same time? Every society has its laws. Africa has its own so does d US. Don't 4 once think that in d US and other western countries u have d right to do almost anything u want& in Africa u can't |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by wirinet(m): 5:35am On Dec 21, 2019 |
hope4nigeria:And the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah stopped gayism in the world or even the area? Why does your God engage in futile and senseless actions? Gay is evil to your own personal religious dogma and doctrine. It may be part of another person's religious practice. Are you advocating for restrictions and punish of other people's religion believes because it is different from your own. |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by wirinet(m): 5:44am On Dec 21, 2019 |
lexy2014:The woman enforced her rights that she has the right to marry a man with other wives. It's a theory, it is applies to obtaining licences (government recognition). A man can marry a wife ie, get the parents consent, the church (or religious body's) consent, put Mrs behind her name, cohabitate with the man and bare children, without obtaining a government marriage licence. This is the same thing that happens in Nigeria here. The man usually only officially marry the first wife, other marriages are done through traditional weddings and customs. 2 Likes |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by nengibo: 5:46am On Dec 21, 2019 |
If na China or Russia , Us for no get mind criticize |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:49am On Dec 21, 2019 |
wirinet: Oga its not a theory. Which law is a theory? Look at an excerpt from your own post: "a key section of Utah law criminalizing polygamy". U said d woman went to enforce her right. Y did she go to court if it was a theory? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by nengibo: 5:51am On Dec 21, 2019 |
Seetto:He wasn't trying to criticize muslims, the point was that because Saudi Arabia is a business partner they don't criticise their wrong doings even after they killed that journalist and it was proven, what did America do? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by wirinet(m): 5:54am On Dec 21, 2019 |
lexy2014:It depends on your definition of polygamy. Does polygamy only means having multiple marriage licenses, or means having multiple eives/partners, but without obtaining multiple marriage licenses? |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by hope4nigeria(m): 6:02am On Dec 21, 2019 |
wirinet:dont ever address God that way again. If you do! 1 Like |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Izigha(m): 6:02am On Dec 21, 2019 |
Is not ironic that the reason why most of us especially Christian hate homosexual is because it was condem in the Bible. The Bible the same people brought to us. I will like to know if homosexuality was considered a sin against the gods in present day Nigeria before the white people came |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Cantonese: 6:05am On Dec 21, 2019 |
Neurotika: Anyone with a catapult there? You head needs a very good stone from a catapult. |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Nobody: 6:07am On Dec 21, 2019 |
I've never been able to understand the instinctive fear and revulsion unfailingly expressed by the average African in the face of same-sex relationships ![]() Whether we like it or not, our laws will eventually be amended to accommodate the LGBT community because they are always going to be among us. We have to learn how to coexist with them, the same way as we live with other individuals in our midst whose genetic aberrations are expressed in more overt (physical) forms. No human being is perfect, after all is said and considered. 2 Likes |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by wirinet(m): 6:10am On Dec 21, 2019 |
hope4nigeria:You religious fundamentalists make me laugh. I see no difference between muslims and Christian fundamentalists, they attempt to use threats and force to impose their doctrines on unbelievabers. I hope you are ready to stone gays and adulterers - both male and female. 2 Likes |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Raylight2(m): 6:14am On Dec 21, 2019 |
Neurotika:it's not all about economic development. that's just one out of so many other areas |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by wirinet(m): 6:14am On Dec 21, 2019 |
GidiWoodsMan:No mind them. It's is their inability to fathom that other people can be radically different from them. African feels insecure and frightened to see people who don't conform to their beliefs and moral preferences. As much I hate homosexuality, I have nothing against homosexuals, as long as they don't impose themselves on me and my children. 4 Likes |
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Randy100: 6:24am On Dec 21, 2019 |
bindukwe:Exactly. |
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