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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:36pm On Dec 25, 2019
Luthben:


Thank you sir
Weldone to everyone

Who knows, Ighalo might change his mind and return to the SE?
his time has come and gone.

In this time of Osimhen and Cyriel Dessers, Ighalo can take solace in the knowledge that he left the team in capable hands. He retired at the right time, when the ovation was loudest
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:36pm On Dec 25, 2019
safarigirl:


Osimhen is currently third highest goalscorer in the French Ligue1 for now, which is higher than the Championship, and is an actual top flight club.

Tammy combusted in his first season in a top league, makes quite the difference

Oshimen also messed up monumentally in his first season in the topflight for Wolfsburg, blame it on injury or whatever but it doesn't change anything, he got the minutes and he didn't justify it.

Y'all should be honest, please.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:38pm On Dec 25, 2019
ChrisKels:


Now u tryna compare the championship with the ligue1? Lol get ur facts right, Osimhen is 20 while Tammy is 22, hence when Tammy was Osimhen's age, he singlehandedly sent Swansea back to the championship, from the EPL. In that regard, at 20, Tammy failed in a team(Swansea), equivalent to what(Lille) Osimhen is currently excelling in, aged 20 also.


Hello!!!



BTW, Tammy was never the goal king in the championship, at any time.


I av never seen u this preconceptious bro, just hope u didnt jump in without due premeditation, just to get at Supernerd bkus of the perceived beef btwn u two, by trying to take sides rather than being factual?

By the way how is Swansea equivalent to Lille? Don't be silly man, Lille finished second last season.

For your viewing pleasure as well as for all those who think Lille's squad strength has reduced from last year, here is a link to their squads for this season and last season. In fact, personally I think they have gotten better, Ikone was not half this good last season.

https://www.worldfootball.net/teams/lille-osc/2019/2/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Rockyrascal(m): 5:39pm On Dec 25, 2019
Subzero047:
Chukwueze signs for Chelsea
this can be possible in January if Chelsea drops it's interest to sign timo Werner and Wilfred Zaha.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 5:40pm On Dec 25, 2019
Crystal Palace to bid 25 million for Emmanuel Dennis Bonaventure(Dude choose two names)

https://twitter.com/CPFC_NEWS_HQ/status/1209550454096637960?s=19
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:42pm On Dec 25, 2019
I agree with you very much at the bolded
komekn:


Lille play entirely to the strengths of Osimhen.

Osimhen is not technically astute as Tega.

If football was based on gra gra and aggression then there would be no need for technique.

Neymar, Mbappe, Messi, Ronaldo, are aggressive with technique. The dont just use pace bit football intelligence and incredible first touch football with pin point accuracy.

Tega is fast he just doesn't base his entire game on pace he has so much more. That's why you don't see him use so often. In addition the ball is not always played ahead for him to run on too.

Look how Tega links up the entire forward line as well as the midfield with one touch football bringing and knitting the team together to work with so much cohesion. That requires a lot more football intelligence and technical ability.

The idea of one player as a focal point works for a lot of teams but it's not the approach of most top teams today.

Tega has too much in his drawer technically to be caged easily. He makes defenders look foolish if they dive in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 5:47pm On Dec 25, 2019
Emmanuel Dennis just scored this wonder some weeks ago

https://twitter.com/FifaCMTips/status/1207064409505488896?s=19
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:01pm On Dec 25, 2019
Mickael2:


Oshimen also messed up monumentally in his first season in the topflight for Wolfsburg, blame it on injury or whatever but it doesn't change anything, he got the minutes and he didn't justify it.

Y'all should be honest, please.

Bollocks! First of all, Osimhen was 18 then... Where was Tammy at 18?

Also, are these the minutes you refer to? Michael, your words are not surprising at all. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by xwolverine: 6:04pm On Dec 25, 2019
Mickael2:


By the way how is Swansea equivalent to Lille? Don't be silly man, Lille finished second last season.

For your viewing pleasure as well as for all those who think Lille's squad strength has reduced from last year, here is a link to their squads for this season and last season. In fact, personally I think they have gotten better, Ikone was not half this good last season.

https://www.worldfootball.net/teams/lille-osc/2019/2/

Lille lost four starters including Pepe after last season, so they got weaker not stronger, check your facts.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:04pm On Dec 25, 2019
TheSuperNerd:


Bollocks! First of all, Osimhen was 18 then... Where was Tammy at 18?

Also, are these the minutes you refer to? Michael, your words are not surprising at all. grin

So after looking at those stats you think he didn't get enough minutes to impress? Come on!!! He had 90mins in two games out of three!!! And he didn't perform and went back to the bench, but still he got 10mins after that before he got injured. And even after he came back from injury, he got 10mins and then 45mins, if that is not enough time to impress then Ansu Fati really wouldn't be where he is today.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:10pm On Dec 25, 2019
Iheanacho also impressed in even much shorter time yet you never rated him. Who are you trying to deceive? grin

Facts remain Osimhen had injury issues as you can see from those pic shots. He barely got minutes and barely stayed healthy enough to even have a good run of games. You make it sound like he was given chances upon chances and he didn't take it.

Meanwhile Tammy at 18 was were? Remind me again.


Mickael2:


So after looking at those stats you think he didn't get enough minutes to impress? Come on!!! He had 90mins in two games out of three!!! And he didn't perform and went back to the bench, but still he got 10mins after that before he got injured. And even after he came back from injury, he got 10mins and then 45mins, if that is not enough time to impress then Ansu Fati really wouldn't be where he is today.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:12pm On Dec 25, 2019
Mickael2:


So after looking at those stats you think he didn't get enough minutes to impress? Come on!!! He had 90mins in two games out of three!!! And he didn't perform and went back to the bench, but still he got 10mins after that before he got injured. And even after he came back from injury, he got 10mins and then 45mins, if that is not enough time to impress then Ansu Fati really wouldn't be where he is today.
so, now we compare Barcelona's team to whichever players are in Wolfsburg?

What has Wolfsburg done since Osimhen left?

Anyway, the context was a 20-year old Tammy vs. A Twenty-year old Tammy, but you keep comparing an older Tammy to a younger Osimhen, leading us to believe that you are also convinced that Osimhen is better than Tammy after all.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:13pm On Dec 25, 2019
Let me make it even much clearer with your points in a simple nutshell.

Tammy at 20 flopped in the EPL with Swansea.

Osimhen at 20 already taking Ligue 1 by storm.

That is the story.





safarigirl:


Osimhen is currently third highest goalscorer in the French Ligue1 for now, which is higher than the Championship, and is an actual top flight club.

Tammy combusted in his first season in a top league, makes quite the difference

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:17pm On Dec 25, 2019
safarigirl:
so, now we compare Barcelona's team to whichever players are in Wolfsburg?

What has Wolfsburg done since Osimhen left?

Anyway, the context was a 20-year old Tammy vs. A Twenty-year old Tammy, but you keep comparing an older Tammy to a younger Osimhen, leading us to believe that you are also convinced that Osimhen is better than Tammy after all.


Oshimen is factually 21. Now you don't say 2019 season, you say 2019/2020 season, so when you want to compare player, you use same guideline. Effectively what we are comparing is Oshimen's 20/21 season with Tammy's 20/21 season. Tammy is just a year older than Oshimen and not 2, take that correction first. Then compare appropriately
And

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:18pm On Dec 25, 2019
TheSuperNerd:
Iheanacho also impressed in even much shorter time yet you never rated him. Who are you trying to deceive? grin

Facts remain Osimhen had injury issues as you can see from those pic shots. He barely got minutes and barely stayed healthy enough to even have a good run of games. You make it sound like he was given chances upon chances and he didn't take it.

Meanwhile Tammy at 18 was were? Remind me again.



People have problems adapting to tactics, others have issues adapting to the physical nature, at the end all of them are under the same category, adaptation. In Oshimen's first season in a top 5 league, he was unable to adapt and did not perform.

The same happened in Tammy's first season. They are both in their second top flight seasons and Tammy has been better. EoD really
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:22pm On Dec 25, 2019
xwolverine:


Lille lost four starters including Pepe after last season, so they got weaker not stronger, check your facts.

Losing three starters (and not four, Rafael was not a starter but OK and Ghazi was on loan at Aston Villa) does not automatically make a team weaker.

Let us look at the replacements.
Weah
Renato Sanchez and Yacizi. These are better players and even cost more and are performing better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:23pm On Dec 25, 2019
TheSuperNerd:
Iheanacho also impressed in even much shorter time yet you never rated him. Who are you trying to deceive? grin

Facts remain Osimhen had injury issues as you can see from those pic shots. He barely got minutes and barely stayed healthy enough to even have a good run of games. You make it sound like he was given chances upon chances and he didn't take it.

Meanwhile Tammy at 18 was were? Remind me again.



You probably think I don't rate Oshimen too right?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CASTAGNE: 6:30pm On Dec 25, 2019
Joebie:
I agree with you very much at the bolded
can u tell me the reason why any player who has considerable pace will not utilize it effectively
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:47pm On Dec 25, 2019
a pacy player may not show it every time depending on how the team is set up to attack. But you can make such conclusion if you have seen the player use his pace in one occasion or two. Do you need a clip to prove that?

CASTAGNE:

can u tell me the reason why any player who has considerable pace will not utilize it effectively
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 6:48pm On Dec 25, 2019
CASTAGNE:

can u tell me the reason why any player who has considerable pace will not utilize it effectively

That question will not be answered grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 6:50pm On Dec 25, 2019
CASTAGNE:

can u tell me the reason why any player who has considerable pace will not utilize it effectively
The old musa and occasional glimpses. Pius ikedia, old adama traore.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:54pm On Dec 25, 2019
Mickael2:


People have problems adapting to tactics, others have issues adapting to the physical nature, at the end all of them are under the same category, adaptation. In Oshimen's first season in a top 5 league, he was unable to adapt and did not perform.

The same happened in Tammy's first season. They are both in their second top flight seasons and Tammy has been better. EoD really


No EOD.... At age 18, Osimhen visited the doctor more times than he had the chances to play. Facts.

At age 18, Tammy was still playing PL 2 football and made only 2 EPL apps.

At age 20, Tammy flopped in the top flight.

At age 20, Osimhen is bossing France.

This season so far, they have similar stats as Starting No.9s for their clubsides. So how has Tammy been better?
In terms of all round plays, Osimhen has been better. Even with a height of 1.85m, he wins more aerial duels at the rate of 4.4 per game compared to a taller Tammy (standing at 1.90m/1.91m) who does his at the rate of 3.4 per game.
In the Big games, Tammy has gone missing but Osimhen has shone in such games this season.

Those up there are the real EOD. wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CASTAGNE: 6:57pm On Dec 25, 2019
Joebie:
a pacy player may not show it every time depending on how the team is set up to attack. But you can make such conclusion if you have seen the player use his pace in one occasion or two. Do you need a clip to prove that?

osimhen is faster than Tammy and if Tammy was as fast as u make him out to be then he will utilize it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:00pm On Dec 25, 2019
With the way you've been saying just about anything to make the lad seem of less quality.... Funny.

And just like you rated Nacho right... Yeah right. grin

Mickael2:


You probably think I don't rate Oshimen too right?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 7:03pm On Dec 25, 2019
Mickael2:


You probably think I don't rate Oshimen too right?

Of course you have demonstrated it here that you rate Oshimen, at leaSt you called out Andrew for saying Victor is an average player. And you unequivocally stated that he's not an average player on all counts.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:10pm On Dec 25, 2019
xwolverine:


Just imagine all this made-up plaudits, all for a player who was struggling a year ago on loan. Marouane Chamack did more than this in his first season, but look at the outcome. Victor Osimhen is younger, plays for a less impressive team and he's still banging in goals, two seasons, two different teams. The part that pisses me off is the pet name, like dude Wtf! He's even calling him Tega, like he is his Dad, a name I am sure Tammy wouldn't like being called.
grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:11pm On Dec 25, 2019
Mickael2:


Oshimen is factually 21. Now you don't say 2019 season, you say 2019/2020 season, so when you want to compare player, you use same guideline. Effectively what we are comparing is Oshimen's 20/21 season with Tammy's 20/21 season. Tammy is just a year older than Oshimen and not 2, take that correction first. Then compare appropriately
And
what is 'factually'?

Tammy is more than a year older than Osimhen, that is why he is 22 now, and Osimhen is STILL 20.

A year, two years, still older. Doesn't negate the fact that what Osimhen is doing at 20, Tammy was not doing

EOD

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 7:12pm On Dec 25, 2019
Mickael2:


[s]Let me first of all point out that you talk a lot of rubbish and really should consider growing up, that is just a medical advice before it turns to a chronic issue. Your last paragraph is easily the stupidest thing you have said this year, and quite frankly that says a lot.

Then again, when Tammy was 20 going to 21 he was playing for Aston Villa, second highest goalscorer in the league. Oshimen is going to be 21 in a few days, so you cannot compare this to the season when Tammy was 19 going to 20. Is that clear?

Now I tender my unreserved apology for mistaking his position. It turns out he was the second highest goalscorer, does that make you happy? Or does that dispute the fact that based on current projection(again, based on current projections) Oshimen might not score that number of goals? Never mind the fact that he is in the French league.

And I am not saying that the championship is better than the Ligue 1, that might be arguable but not my point exactly, however, that was a direct reply to someone who said that when he was Oshimen's age he was shuttling between Chelsea and Swansea.[/s]

And ur point exactly is?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 7:18pm On Dec 25, 2019
Mickael2:


By the way how is Swansea equivalent to Lille? Don't be silly man, Lille finished second last season.

For your viewing pleasure as well as for all those who think Lille's squad strength has reduced from last year, here is a link to their squads for this season and last season. In fact, personally I think they have gotten better, Ikone was not half this good last season.

https://www.worldfootball.net/teams/lille-osc/2019/2/

Why are u still quoting the same post u tagged a trash? Why dont u wait till I grow up? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 7:34pm On Dec 25, 2019
ChrisKels:
Who else knows Pamela Ilekhuoba from FB? I haven't met an avid female super eagles supporter, since Safarigirl.
That girl


I know her
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 7:55pm On Dec 25, 2019
Enjoying this debate. cheesy

I think Tammy currently has a higher profile in world football than Osimhen, by it doesn't need me or anyone else to highlight how much Osimhen's profile is growing exponentially almost every weekend.

I think the most significant fact you can pass judgement in without stirring the nest is that both players are equally indispensable to their teams with both thier teams battling for a champions League spot and not the title.

So today in order to separate them it will have to come down to nit picking (bias for or against) or simply personal preference for whatever reason.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by xwolverine: 7:56pm On Dec 25, 2019
Mickael2:


Losing three starters (and not four, Rafael was not a starter but OK and Ghazi was on loan at Aston Villa) does not automatically make a team weaker.

Let us look at the replacements.
Weah
Renato Sanchez and Yacizi. These are better players and even cost more and are performing better.

@ the bolded, just listen to yourself angry angry

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