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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 8:36pm On Dec 25, 2019 |
GoodBadandUgly:the same principle that makes birds fly in the air is the same that makes airplane fly. The answer is simply in the way air passes under the wings of an aircraft due to its design, the air becomes very strong under the wings and so is able to lift the aircraft upwards. If gravity was true the aircraft will not fly because the so called force that is powerful enough to keep the large body of ocean water and everything stuck to the ball earth should be pulling the air craft down and the air should not have power over a force so that is responsible for everything guming to the ball earth. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 2:11pm On Dec 26, 2019 |
LordReed:if the theory of gravity can be changed from a force pulling stuffs to a disturbance in space time then what makes you so sure that the current definition is absolute?, it is only a matter of time before it is changed again to another thing showing that there is no proof of this in the natural world it is all just a theory and will remain so. theory of gravity was an idea Isaac newton got from the Jewish kabbalah for your information. Gravity is not supported by any scientific proof. Einstein was picked to explain away the michelson and Morley experiment which proved opposite of its expected outcome. Einstein did not carry out any experiment to detect or measure out his supposed findings, they were all guess work and some plagiarized from other scientist. The law of attraction and repulsion in the Jewish kabbalah was popularized under the name gravity by Isaac newton. Pythagoras only taught this to his initiates but newton was led to this through his study of the kabbalah. What you don't know is that Isaac newton was a religious mystic who studied Judaism and the Jewish text. In an interview that took place in 1955, Einstien spoke about the theological writings of Isaac newton and how it was significant that newton had sealed them up in a box, an indication that shows Einstein himself is in support of. Newton never wanted to publish these writings and Einstein said he hope they will never be published. Now why would Einstein say that? Because it would give up the game and the world would know the theological origin of the theory of gravity. Gps technology is similar to ground based radio, loran and Decca technology which are terrestrial navigation system used by ships and aircraft to determine their positon. these are not new technologywhat we have with GPS is nothing more than a ground-based system that is using an improved technology for determining your location. There are no gps satellite's in the air or space, in all the space videos non of the many thousands of satelites have been seen. How does a satellite's moving at over 3'500mph transmit signal accurately ? |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by LordReed(m): 2:54pm On Dec 26, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY: You do not understand what a theory is and it shows. No where did I say a theory is absolute nor does any scientist say a theory is absolute. It is the best explanation for the facts on hand. Gravity is a fact, how it works is what the theory tries to explain. If I find more facts I get better explanations. Scientists work with findings of other scientists so to say Einstein plagerised sonmeone else's work is just you giving a dog a bad name so you can hang it. Provide links to the text of the interview you are referring to. It can transmit signals accurately because the Einstein's theory of special and general relativity is correct and based on that the transmission can correct for the relativity in the difference between the satellite's motion and the motion of the earth. The OP already challenges you, take a telescope and look into the night sky you can find the satellites passing over your location. There are even timetables with the information on which satellites are passing over you at any time. If GPS is terrestrial radio how come a man in a desert with no terrestrial facilities close is by able to receive it? How is terrestrial radio able to accurately pin point your location? How is terrestrial radio able to determine your speed, your heading and time? If there are no satellities in the sky why do satellite dishes point to specific portions of the sky? |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by budaatum: 4:35pm On Dec 26, 2019 |
GoodBadandUgly:The guy doesn't understand simple anything as far as the earth and planets are concerned. I wonder who taught him to ignore anything anyone else has to say on the subject and believe only the crap his own head is filled with. He'll be an example of willful ignorance for future generations. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by GoodBadandUgly(m): 6:01pm On Dec 26, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY:“the same principle that makes birds fly in the air is the same that makes airplane fly.” is not a theory dumbass, that’s just you talking nonsense. Present your theories and calculations. Gravity is constantly acting on the aircraft hence why aerodynamic loads and thrust loads are the primary forces generated to counter gravity. The differential in the surface pressure between the upper and lower sections of the aerofoil wing is what causes vertical lift. Have you never throw a paper plane? The horizontal force you apply to it is translationed into horizontal and vertical vectors. This is why with enough thrust power and deflected ailerons; the angle of attack of the wing becomes positive, hence lift is generating for takeoff! When you get to cruising altitude, all you have to do is maintain a constant thrust. Turbulence is due to the different air pockets aircrafts fly through, this is why flying in bad weather can be difficult to manoeuvre through.Aircrafts are built with theoretical and practical safety margins clearly beyond your understand. . This same effect is demonstrated on a jet ski or a power boat. If you notice, it may seem that they bounce on water; this is also due to the combination of aerodynamic and thrust which (again) translate to vertical and horizontal forces. If you shoot a bullet at 45 degrees to earth’s surface, there will be a moment where the potential energy runs out and the gravitational potential energy starts acting on this; hence the bullet starts falling due to the gravity. However the bullet doesn’t just start dropping directly to the earth at 90 degrees, it falls in a symmetrical way to the climb since a trajectory of 45 degrees was applied. Again! This is vertical and horizontal forces acting on the bullet! Furthermore gravity holds water to the surface of the earth because all the other forces acting on it are negligible in almost all cases. It’s clear you don’t understand the basic principles of Newton’s 3 laws. Your an ignoramus who knows nothing and refuses to learn anything! I hope you know non of what you’ve said is actually true. To think you know more than a professional who does this for a living just goes to show your moronic you are. Present your theories with sufficient demonstrations and proof or just shut up. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 8:15pm On Dec 26, 2019 |
LordReed:You use theory to explain what you think it to be or what you imaging it to be!!. Gravity is not a fact. I have told you the root of gravity. If you say theories are not absolute then why hold on to the theory of time space continuum as a fact if it is not absolute? Nothing falls to the ground because a mythical force is pushing it. There is no experiment that confirms gravity to this day. Even the scientific community still hold gravity as largely a theory why? because there are no demonstration to prove it. If gravity is a fact there will be concrete evidence to prove but because there is non that is why it is still accepted as a theory. Theories don't explain fact, theories only tries to explain imagination of what a person think it to be and not the actual fact. If you say gravity is a fact then what are the experiments proving gravity? How is gravity measured or detected? LordReed:scientist dont work with findings of other scientist without giving due regards to the originator as einstein did. Einstein stole ideas from other scientist and passed them off as his own e.g E=mc^2 was first formulated by poincare, curved space by riemann, time space by minkowski, the doctrine that object contract by the proportion at the speed which they move by fitzgerald. Einstein did not even coin the name relativity, it was done by j. H poincare. The man you call a genius was a fraud. LordReed:the interview took place between einstein and the historian scientist known as I. B cohen in1955. You can verify this online. LordReed:this is just blabbing relativity is another unconfirmed theory which is based on mathematics and not a fact, einstein did not carry out any experiments to confirm relativity. As a matter of fact the theory of relativity is a lie not even worth mentioning. Einsteins relativity is based on the premise that there is no fixed point of reference therefore motion is relative to the observer. This theory has absolute no backing in the natural world it os a blatant insult to human intellect. LordReed:what you dont know about gps os that it uses trilatertion to determine ones positionWhat we ACTUALLY know is that ground based towers use this technology as well. Trilateration is basically a term used to explain "satellite" signals which employs spherical "points of connection." There is nothing "new here" except their explanation of this ONLY occuring with satellites.Trilateration, which uses measurements of distances,and triangulation,which uses measurements of angles are both used indetermining ones location and implement ground-based technology. LordReed:.. Satellite dishes do not point straight up to the sky but point at angle 45° to the nearest ground based tower. Satelites TV dishes were in existence and fully operational long before any so called satellites were lanuched. 1 Like |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Amujale(m): 9:39pm On Dec 26, 2019 |
The Christian bible is fake, false and counterintuitive 1 Like |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Amujale(m): 9:51pm On Dec 26, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY: It wouldnt suprise me one bit if he turned out to be an imposter because that is the Eurocentric trend on matters relating to all things knowledge and intellectual discourse. Similar to the way they gave the Greeks much of the credit for African intellectual property and called it the "The Greek Miracle". Eurocentric historians are compulsive liars and fakers. These are the same reasons they that have newly appeared on the world stage are know claiming to be the father of this, that and the other. 1 Like |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by shadeyinka(m): 12:13am On Dec 27, 2019 |
nwabekeyi:If God is indeed a Spirit as the Bible says, what is the wisdom in using a telescope to view/see Him? Your level of intelligence is seriously disappointing! 1 Like |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by myobjective: 9:06am On Dec 27, 2019 |
Originakalokalo: If a book was written by an alleged all-powerful God is busy talking about the Earth, the Moon and Sun in the same contest when in reality the sun of 333,000 bigger than the earth, that should tell you something is wrong with such God. Basic knowledge in cosmology will render all religious text useless. The stone age men that wrote those book did so using their very crude knowledge of observing all these planetary bodies from Earth, their point of reference is here on earth that is why all they talk about is the Earth, the sun and the moon. 1 Like |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by myobjective: 9:07am On Dec 27, 2019 |
shadeyinka: The concept of God is a big myth coined by stone-age men. 1 Like |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 12:55pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
Amujale:exactly. 1 Like |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by shadeyinka(m): 3:41pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
myobjective:It doesn't matter what you believe, however common sense dictate that your definition of who is called God is consistent with that of those who believe in Him. If God is a Spirit, what is your rational for looking for him with a telescope? Does anyone look for Santa Claus in the month of march!? It's just common sense! |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by LordReed(m): 4:57pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY: I will respond in detail later but in the meantime the attached picture disproves your assertion.
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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 6:03pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
LordReed:don't respond for the sake of it. Make sure you counter the argument with fact. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by LordReed(m): 6:42pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY: I just responded with one fact that disproves one of your assertions, how about you respond to that. 1 Like |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 7:19pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
LordReed:that is not a fact faulty satelites are pointed straight up they are every where in my area like that look at that picture isn't that a ghetto. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by LordReed(m): 10:13pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY: LMFAO! Damn dude you really are creative with your excuses. Bwahahahahahaha! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 10:22pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
LordReed:am still waiting for your rebuttal, seems you've run out of ideas. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Ken4Christ: 10:26pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
nwabekeyi: You need God's Word to see the invisible. Your sense knowledge is limited. Revelation knowledge begins where sense knowledge fails. And you can only get it from the Bible. Can your telescope see the devil? Wise up and believe the scripture |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by LordReed(m): 10:32pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY: Yep, your creativity has taken the wind out of my sails. Bwahahahahahahahaha! |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by budaatum: 10:32pm On Dec 27, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY:The people living in those "ghettos" must be so dumb they must be staring at blank tv screens without knowing it is blank, and not because relative to them, straight up is where their tv signal comes from. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 6:35am On Dec 28, 2019 |
LordReed:you just admitted you've run out of ideas, you can now go and rest. Don't involve yourself in argument you know nothing about next time. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 7:31am On Dec 28, 2019 |
GoodBadandUgly:the secret of air plane flight lies in the convex design of the wings and how it reacts with pushes against the surrounding air any pilot can verify this. The same nature and design are found on the wings of birds birds have to flap their wings to generate the needed air power to lift off the ground the same thing happens with aircraft but in this case the air craft cannot flat its wings so the jet engines provides thrust that pushes the air aircraft forward thereby dragging the wings to push against the air. It is the strong wind that carries the air craft with its weight up. This can be demonstrated when a person puts their hand out of a speeding vehicle. You notice how the air become strong and tends to pull you hand up. this os the reason why aircraft at at very high altitude use less power because the wind at that hight is very strong and powerful. GoodBadandUgly:we are saying the same thing except you bringing gravity into this. Gravity with its powerful force that keeps everything stuck to 1000mph spinning earth and over 70,000mph orbiting earth which is also carried 500'0000mph along the galaxy should not be over powered by air. If their is a force which gets the large body of ocean water building, cars etc stuck on a ball then it follows that nothing should go up in the air even humans or any other living creature cannot jump into the air not to talk of planes flying into the air and getting up to 40'000ft high because a force is keeping them stuck on a ball moving at break neck speeds. GoodBadandUgly post=85239466If:anything which goes up must come down. The bullet does not fall because gravity is pulling it down that bullet is falling down due to its weight beeing lighter than the surrounding air. The initial potential energy carries it at whatever angle it is placed so it will fall in which ever symmetrical angle it was placed. Throw a stone up at angle 90°, it will fall at the same angle, throw that same stone at angle 45°, it will fall symmetrical to that same 45° angle. GoodBadandUgly post=85239466If:stop blabbing. I should be the one telling you to present your proof of water sticking to a spinning ball. Water does not stick to a ball gravity or not. This shit cannot be proven or demonstrated any where any time. What are those forces negligible? There is no way water will stick round about a ball speeding in space at incredible speeds. Water always finds its level at the top no matter the shape of its container. Water cannot go round a speeding ball. Present you proof.? You are the ignorant person here and you need to stop lying about you beeing a pilot or whatever. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by LordReed(m): 2:34pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY: I have not run out of ideas but I don't compete with creative storytellers who want to win by any means. If you can look at a fact and create a story just to dismiss it, then I am not going to compete with you. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by LordReed(m): 2:36pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
budaatum: I don't even know how to respond to such amazing creativity. LoL! How someone can be so blatantly dishonest is beyond my capacity to deal with. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by budaatum: 3:25pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
LordReed:He's not just being dishonest and ignorant, my Lord, he intends to deceive too, which is outright evil, and is the reason I keep quoting him, though I don't bother educating him since he refuses to pay schoolfees. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 7:21am On Jan 01, 2020 |
Ken4Christ:Devil doesn’t exist bro. The story was concocted |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 7:22am On Jan 01, 2020 |
shadeyinka:The same bible that said the earth was created in 6days. Show me the level of intelligence in that. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 7:24am On Jan 01, 2020 |
nijabazaar:Tell me any scientific proof for gods and satan. How can someone who believes a great flood happened and killed several inhabitants just about 4000years ago talk about science and intelligent? It’s amazing how ignorant you people are and still don’t know it because you want to defend a a book written by archaic humans who had crude understanding of the universe. You lot are very ignorant and thinks the Holy Spirit(fictional) will help you get wisdom. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 7:31am On Jan 01, 2020 |
Roon9:Where is the heaven? The stars that the book of revelation said will fall upon the earth? Or the sun the Bible said claims orbits round the earth? Or is it the same heavens that the Bible said the earth was created before the sun? That book is just everything contradictory to reality. |
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by shadeyinka(m): 8:24am On Jan 01, 2020 |
nwabekeyi:Is this not a lie, error or misunderstanding from you? Except you can find a single scripture that says that the earth was created in six days. This is what the Bible says: Gen 1:1-2: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void ; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved on the face of the waters." What happened in the six days was the repopulation/setting into order the earth (that was created in the beginning of time)! If you doubt this: on what day did God create the waters? |
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