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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 3:21pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: It baffles me how with it ease you are quick to use rude remarks. However to portray sanity and good manners I wouldn't engage you or be offended either. One of us has to matured anyway. In this text it is assumed Solomon's Egyptian bride is quoted speaking Song of Solomon 1:5-6 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon. Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept. and in verse 15-16 of the same book it is assumed the Woman is still talking but this time to her Man (King Solomon) Song of Solomon 1:15-16 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes. Behold, thou art fair, my beloved, yea, pleasant: also our bed is green here you should realise that the inhabitants of Jerusalem were not blacks. King Solomon was not "black" Numbers 12:1 if you read also you'd discover that Moses' siblings were racist because he married an Ethiopian. You can also read Jeremiah 13:23 in the Bible to see where a part of my claim comes from. Anyway, we can't always know all.God bless 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 3:36pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
khiaa: ZiriMane:If Benjamin Netanyahu the Prime Minister of Israel is not Israeli then it would also be safe to say Vladimir Putin is not Russian or rather Queen Elizabeth is not British. Anyway, what do I know¿...Sincerely, you could be right. 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by dermmy(m): 3:49pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
MrPresident1: Act 21:37 And as Paul was about to be led into the barracks, he said to the commander, "May I speak to you?" He replied, "Can you speak Greek? Act 21:38 "Are you not the Egyptian who some time ago raised an insurrection and led the four thousand assassins out into the wilderness?" Act 21:39 But Paul said, "I am a Jew from Tarsus, in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city; and I implore you, permit me to speak to the people." One can draw a conclusion that, on the basis of Paul's Jewish appearance, the possibility of his African identity could not be dismissed. I did my own research and found the truth even present day Jewish scholars, archaeologists have acknowledged this truth and have written on it. You don't have to argue with anyone, in the age of information Ignorance is a choice. 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 4:24pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
ZiriMane: There's a quick solution to ur ignorance and it is - THE INTERNATIONAL JEW BY HENRY FORD. Have a great day. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 4:25pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
This thread is laughable to be honest. If only the black race were truly aware of the achievements of their ancestors, they wouldn’t be dragging and claiming if the Jews were black or if blacks were Jews. From the glory of the Bini Kingdom, to the amazing mastery of astrology by the Dogon tribe in Mali, to the achievements of King Mansa Musa of that same Malian empire, to the wealth of the Ashanti empire. Or is it the kingdom of Cush (ancient Ethiopia), or the mysterious but yet enchanting Nok Culture in sub-Saharan Africa. Many other countless achievements lost to the sands of time in terms of knowledge and spirituality, yet people are here trying to validate the black race by claiming they were ancient Jews with outright lies and anomalies. Smh, ignorance and identity crises. 3 Likes |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 4:28pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: Please, can you give me another reference other than any of Henry Ford's work? It's pretty much clear this texts were published for their Anti-Semitic purposes and therefore would undermine the Jewish race in all its entirety |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by dermmy(m): 4:33pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
ZiriMane: The Ancient Black Hebrews: The forensic proof simply explained, data from jewish anthropologists, archaeologists and craniologists that reveals the truth. https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Black-Hebrews-Vol-Pomegranate-ebook/dp/B00KVUVWDI |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 4:48pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
dermmy:I think I have read this work, and if you know history you would agree it is loosely substantiated. It even referred to the Caucasian race as originally Albino Asians. To me the writer was beclouded by fantasy and sentiment. Anyway, what do I know ¿ 3 Likes |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by dermmy(m): 4:49pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
ZiriMane: Ok |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 4:55pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
The first black known of according to biblical genealogy was Cush, the son of Ham. Can someone point to other blacks that existed before Cush? Or was Eber (Genesis 10 v 21) the son of Shem and the forefather of the Jews a black man or married to a black woman? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by 1Sharon(f): 4:59pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
OkCornel: Actually, this makes sense scientifically. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by dermmy(m): 5:22pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
OkCornel: Scientists note that the genes of black people are not recessive, as in other races. This means that blacks can genetically give rise to other races, while no other race can reproduce a black man. So if we agree that Adam was the first man, then it can be argued that he was a black man. According to the bible, Adam was created out of the dust of the earth. In the book of Kathryn McGhee Livers, there is an explanation for this phrase- APHAR MIN-HA ADHAMAH - from the hebrew language. The word ADAMAH is formed from the word ADHAM, which stands for black soil. And the very word "Adam" "man" can be understood as "dark" or "black" In Akkadian poetry (One of the most ancient Semitic languages) ADHAM means "black headed". 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 5:31pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
dermmy: Adam means red earth. Adam and Edom shares the same root word in Hebrew. I’ll be back with further details shortly |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by dermmy(m): 5:37pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
OkCornel: Ok i agree that Adam was a white man as you have argued but if he was a white man and the first man to roam this earth why do we have blacks, Chinese, Indians in our world. Please enlighten me. How did we have blacks people, Chinese and the rest. What happened? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 5:42pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
dermmy: I never mentioned Adam was a white man please. Note Edom and Adam means red, not white. Ever heard of adaptation and mutation? Going by biblical genealogy, the first black man traceable from the lineage of Noah was Cush (meaning black or burnt face). Please prove me wrong here. Thanks. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by dermmy(m): 5:47pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
OkCornel: Ok. What you are trying to prove is Adam was not a black man right? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 5:48pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
dermmy: Yup, according to scriptural evidences available. Well unless we are implying the scriptures are not sufficient enough to rely on. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by dermmy(m): 5:56pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
OkCornel: Scientists note that the genes of black people are not recessive, as in other races. This means that blacks can genetically give rise to other races, while no other race can reproduce a black man. So if we agree that Adam was the first man, then it can be argued that he was a black man. What can you say to this. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 6:00pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
dermmy: You mean the same scientists that believe humans originated from Africa rather than the Garden of Eden in the Middle East? Do you also believe humanity started from Africa? I just want to be very sure you are not cherry picking facts to bolster your argument. In addition, can you provide us with evidence of two black parents that birthed a generation of white kids in recent times to support your argument? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 6:00pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
dermmy: I am answering for him ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 6:04pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
MrPresident1: Says the false prophet ![]() |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 6:05pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 6:09pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
MrPresident1: The passage of time keeps on exposing your lies which you eventually call “critical route and time markers”. I wonder when you’ll stop lying to yourself ![]() |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by dermmy(m): 6:53pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
OkCornel: Wow.. so humans originated from the middle east? This is the first time i have heard this please can you recommend a book on that? I love knowledge so this will be an addition. Remember i was the first person to ask how we have different races if Adam was not black and you answered with "adaptation and mutation". Please elaborate on that first red Adam who mutated into blacks, white, chinese and the rest. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 6:55pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
dermmy: Bros, please don’t humour me. Where is the garden of the Eden located? Africa? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by jcross19: 6:55pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
ZiriMane:they claimed to be . now look at the book of songs of Solomon 1:6 says do not stare at me because I am dark,because I am darkened by the sun. so ancient hebrew might be black or redish but not Caucasian. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 6:57pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
dermmy: Your question on Adam’s complexion, well unless you’re implying Adam and Edom no longer means red. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 7:19pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
jcross19:if you read this passage well you'll discover it wasn't an Israelite talking rather it was a woman who theologians claim is King Solomon's Egyptian bride. The Bible is there to expatiate on the matter if you would read the whole of the chapter not just a verse. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by jcross19: 7:24pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
ZiriMane:is still talking about daughters of Israel. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 8:20pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
OkCornel: 1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall notprevent them which are asleep. If you understood this verse, you would go on to undestand that Jesus is a fully melanated darkskinned person |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 8:21pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
lilianofentse: All black people are not Hebrews but all Hebrews are black people. 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 8:25pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
ZiriMane: The Hebrews were not and are not Caucasian. 1 Like 1 Share |
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