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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 8:37pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
khia: I wonder how at this day and age, at this point in the evolution of knowledge, anyone can still be thinking that Jesus is a white guy, I'm like, what d fxxk ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 8:39pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: Bravo!!!!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:01pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
MrPresident1: Guy, your case is beyond reasoning. What connection does the second coming have to do with Jesus being black? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:49pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
I wonder how at this age and time people would allow themselves to be mentally swindled into thinking Jesus was a black man. What a shameless and blatant lie. No one is claiming Jesus is white. If Arabs don’t qualify to be called “whites” or those from the ancient Semitic stock as same. Obviously they aren’t whites either! |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 10:40pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
OkCornel: Ancient Assyrians, ancient mesopotamians, what complexion were they? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 10:50pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
MrPresident1:Like their Arab descendants occupying the very same Middle Eastern region today! Arabs are not whites! Neither are they blacks! |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Commando8: 11:31pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
MrPresident1: Simple! |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khiaa(f): 11:52pm On Dec 28, 2019 |
ZiriMane: Well to answer your question you don't know much about this topic. If you take an African lion out of Africa and bring it to Japan is it no longer an African lion? Those so-called white Israelis are originally from Europe. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 12:05am On Dec 29, 2019 |
ZiriMane: Have u read the book? Facts speaks for itself and once u start reading facts, even ur common sense will guide u correctly, there's nothing like Anti semitism here. Henry Ford didn't write the book, he publicly employed the services of very reputable Archeologists n Historians to research, find n gather evidence and write the book. Common sense is quite common does Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Roman Abramovich look in anyway like the people living in Egypt, Jordan, Iraq or Syria ?? How can a clear white caucasian man with white silky hair come from around Egypt while ALL Egyptians as at 2019 are either black, brown or red...think, think think. This is basic social studies. https://www./295056213069844894/?%24ios_deeplink_path=pinterest%3A%2F%2Fpin%2F295056213069844894&%24android_deeplink_path=pinterest%3A%2F%2Fpin%2F295056213069844894&_client_id=s2sydUM8rWlXk376sPe4l0IG1-IqJB2S2_1EF981Mih83j6-xGZk4Z5x6Ywf3COh&utm_source=168&utm_medium=2160¤t_page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Famp%2Fpin%2F295056213069844894%2F&install_id=2ae80ff143b34f53aa4fd5f24e81cf75&%24fallback_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F295056213069844894%2F%23details&_branch_match_id=739607501117350620#details It is a well known fact that the 2nd president of Egypt Gamal Abdel Nasser said that the hebrews left hebrews as blacks and retained as whites. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 12:16am On Dec 29, 2019 |
OkCornel: ""No one is claiming Jesus is white"" Where did u pick up this nonsense from ![]() |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 12:19am On Dec 29, 2019 |
ZiriMane: The president or prime minister of Australia, New Zealand, Canada and USA are all foreigners, they are white Europeans who conquered n sized those countries by the barrels of a gun. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 12:21am On Dec 29, 2019 |
OkCornel: Whatever our ancestors achieved in the past isn't a reason why lies about who the hebrews truly should be swept under the carpet |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:57am On Dec 29, 2019 |
PrecisionFx:So who were the Hebrews? Blacks? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:01am On Dec 29, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: Clarify yourself please. I need to be sure you ain’t putting words in my mouth. Read my posts carefully and check if I ever claimed Jesus was a white man. Can anyone in their right senses claim middle easterners are whites? Or blacks? Do Arabs for example classify as whites? Are Semitic peoples classified as white or black? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:14am On Dec 29, 2019 |
There is absolutely no evidence that the Jew’s had black skin, not that it would matter, but we must restrict our findings based upon what the Bible says and not speculation or conjecture. There are also no reliable extra-biblical sources or even secular historical sources that say that Jesus was black. Hebrews likely had olive-colored skin, not black or white as some pictures falsely showed Christ to be. Matthew was written to the Jewish Christians who could see that Jesus was clearly the prophesied Messiah that would be this Promised Seed of Abraham (Gen 12:3) and the descendant (son) of David. Jesus’ Ethnicity There is little doubt that since Jesus was born a Jew He had to have the attributes of other Jews and there is no recorded historical accounts of black Jews in His time, however there were black Jews who had converted to Judaism but that is no reason to believe that Jesus was black. The descendants of Abraham all had olive colored skin with a light brown complexion just as do all Jews around the world today, no matter what part of the world they live in. Hebrews 7:14 clearly states that “it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, and in connection with that tribe Moses said nothing about priests” (Heb 7:14). Jesus being from Nazareth and being a Galilean meant that He was easily identifiable as to where He came from, just like Peter was (Matt 26:69). Are There Black Jews? Since Israel is so close to Africa, it is very possible that some of the Jews expelled by the Rome from Judea traveled to and lived in Africa. Some of the Jews could easily have intermarried with blacks but this has nothing to do with Jesus’ ethnicity and His being 100% Jewish by lineage (Matt 1). Some so-called Black Hebrews claim that they are descendants of the Jews and it is possible since some may have intermarried, there could be some but those of the nation of Israel originally were all ethnic Jews. Even today there are blacks that claim that they are of Jewish descent and they practice very ancient Jewish customs but it is not whether they have Jewish blood in them but whether they are true, 100% descendants of the biblical Hebrews. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/christiancrier/2014/06/12/was-jesus-black-what-race-was-jesus-christ/ |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:20am On Dec 29, 2019 |
ETHNICITY AND RACE - SEMITIC PEOPLE; In the racialist classifications of Carleton S. Coon, the Semitic peoples were considered to be members of the Caucasian race, not dissimilar in appearance to the neighbouring Indo-European, Northwest Caucasian, and Kartvelian-speaking peoples of the region. As language studies are interwoven with cultural studies, the term also came to describe the religions (ancient Semitic and Abrahamic) and Semitic-speaking ethnicities as well as the history of these varied cultures as associated by close geographic and linguistic distribution. Some recent genetic studies have found (by analysis of the DNA of Semitic-speaking peoples) that they have some common ancestry. Although no significant common mitochondrial results have been found, Y-chromosomal links between Semitic-speaking peoples of the Middle East like Arabs, Jews, Mandaeans, Samaritans, and Assyrians/Syriacs have shown links, despite differences contributed from other groups (see Y-chromosomal Aaron). A DNA study of "six Middle Eastern populations (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Kurdish Jews from Israel; Muslim Kurds; Muslim Arabs from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area; and Bedouin from the Negev)" found that Jews were more closely related to groups in the north of the Fertile Crescent (Kurds, Turks, and Armenians) than to their Arab neighbors. Genetic studies indicate that modern Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic and Mizrahi specifically), Levantine Arabs, Assyrians/Syriacs, Samaritans, Maronites, Druze, Mandaeans, and Mhallami, all have a common Near Eastern heritage which can be genetically mapped back to the ancient Fertile Crescent, but often also display genetic profiles distinct from one another, indicating the different histories of these peoples. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 2:23pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
PrecisionFx:The way you are talking I'm kinda feeling you've read the book but don't know when a thing is Anti-Semitic. International Jews by Henry Ford was a collection from his personally owned Newspaper publications that highlighted hatred for the Jews which in some way influenced the Holocaust. It was purely Anti-Semitic to me. PrecisionFx:I never mentioned these names as from anywhere that you just mentioned. These names you mentioned all have Jewish ties and they are white. However, ancient Hebrews may not necessarily be caucasians but they wer'nt black either. PrecisionFx:Take no offence, although I've been rating you high a bit of late with your arguments but after this your statement I just kinda felt you've only just wanted to be regarded as an intellectual. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 3:02pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
khiaa: Educate me, how did the present Hebraic race migrate into the present day land of Isreal? since you claim this present race of Isrealis where not the original dwellers. In Australia there are evidences of the indigenous Australians, (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders), in America there are evidences of the presence of people that originally inhabited the land the Native Americans even in Egypt there is still the presence of dark skinned Egyptians check this link www.bing.com/images/search?q=black+skin+egyptian&id=BDCFA63E4242928F44C61662699962786A7AD358&FORM=IQFRBA . Other than the Ethiopian Jews which other group of Israelis are dark skinned? and where did the original dark skinned dwellers migrate to? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 7:10pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
ZiriMane: "Henry Ford was a collection from his personally owned Newspaper publications"" This is a very daft submission, I didn't read beyond dis line. Cure ur own ignorance wen u choose to. Good day ![]() |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 7:12pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
OkCornel: Middle easterners are reddish n black. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 7:21pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
lilianofentse: Yes they were,remember the story of Moses of as a baby?the wife of the king found him in a basket floating on the river and she took him to the palace and raised him as theirs.That story alone suggests that Moses was a dark skin man for the king and others to have accepted him as one of theirs means he must have looked like them and secondly remember that the Israel of today was created in 1948 and those Caucasians there are the results of Hitler action in Germany and Europe and the European evaders always try to exterminate the indigenous people e.g Australia,America and Argentina etc killed most of the blacks and it was normal and acceptable in those days. 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:52pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: Source and basis? According to you, Semitic people were/are reddish and black? I dey wait, please share your source and evidences. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 7:54pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
OkCornel: Which source do u want? Will u cook stew with it? Go to the middle east and find out the color of the people that have lived there for ages, that's the color of the hebrews |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:56pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: Never knew you were joking all this while. ![]() Middle easterners were/are reddish and black indeed. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 8:04pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
OkCornel: Black, Brown, Red. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:07pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
OLIVE SKIN; Olive skin is a human skin color spectrum. It is often associated with pigmentation in the Type III to Type IV and Type V ranges of the Fitzpatrick scale. It generally refers to light or moderate brown, brownish, or tannish skin, and it is often described as having yellowish, greenish, or golden undertones. People with olive skin can sometimes become more pale if their sun exposure is limited. Lighter olive skin tans more easily than does fair skin, and generally still retains notable yellow or greenish undertones. Geographic distribution Type III pigmentation is frequent among populations from parts of the Mediterranean, Asia, and Latin America. It ranges from cream to darker olive skin tones. This skin type sometimes mildly burns and tans gradually, but always tans. Type IV pigmentation is frequent among populations from the Mediterranean, as well as parts of Asia and Latin America. It ranges from brownish or darker olive to moderate brown, typical Mediterranean skin tones. This skin type rarely burns and tans easily. Type V pigmentation is frequent among populations from the Middle East, parts of the Mediterranean, parts of Africa, Latin America, and the Indian subcontinent. It ranges from oliveto tan, Middle Eastern skin tones. This skin type very rarely burns and tans quite easily. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_skin Jesus is black crew, the above article should clear up the ignorance y’all displaying. Read this slowly and carefully, before jumping into lies to fuel your fantasies. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:08pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: Add some purple as well. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 8:39pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
OkCornel: Pink n light green too |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 8:40pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
OkCornel: Cure ur ignorance wen ur ready. The middle easterners are black, brown n red, it's a known fact |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:12pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: Lol, which fact? Black, brown and red? Lmao. Brown I know, black and red? Na you sabi that one... Bring source and evidence , na lie. And you’re claiming to be enlightened? This is a joke |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:13pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
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