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Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by Khaleell001(m): 10:23am On Dec 30, 2019 |
Gerrard59: Thanks for the fine details I must admit, but it does not also rule out what I feel can be done. Using 100 k as a base for determining the number of kids one should have as if that is going to be permanent living wage does not cut it for me. Who says the man can get a better out put or a better source of income? and life is never about permanence. If we were to judge China let's say 40 50 years ago we will never say they will be where they are today. It's all about putting resources in place with the right attitude and policies. You can't just say people should stop procreating because we have lazy leaders who can't think out of the box. And one problem with one of your point is that you forget our problems are peculiar and requires a peculiar approach. The down part for me in your analysis is Ywou are just basing you analysis on one out of many more possible out comes. I have an uncle who has nothing less than nine children ,but not all of them went to school. In fact, only three as at last count are graduates and they are doing relatively well while others are not doing that bad. Whether your argument about limitation of bearing children is better for us or not what I know is,the factors that determine what we are; are too many just to base your argument on limitation of population growth alone Saying we should cut down population is always a convenient excuse for people who don't want to put things in place.. The only time your argument will make sense to me is when policies are followed through and basic necessities are provided and things start working the way they should then I can blame our high birth rate as the problem. As for now, tackle those issues first before talking about decerease in birth rate. All those who argue about having less population or birth rate should go exterminate themselves first so we know we have minus one of the population. |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by midnighter(f): 10:23am On Dec 30, 2019 |
Vivikema: Illogical argument. Would they not be dividing the square meals into circular meals if they had another child? Poverty can never be removed from it o! 3 Likes |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by Foxie: 10:24am On Dec 30, 2019 |
OJODEL10:N2,500. Bye! 2 Likes |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by Khaleell001(m): 10:36am On Dec 30, 2019 |
midnighter: Hello auntie, caught you here again. And it also happens we are also having divergent views here. For me, number of kids one has does not determine the permanence of their poverty level as some of you think. There are so many dynamics knew can consider before saying something is certain. The factors you base your arguments on are not permanent but dynamic both individually and collectively. Life itself is never and was never mean to be easy. |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by midnighter(f): 10:46am On Dec 30, 2019 |
Khaleell001: Uncle you are not making sense, please. The constant factor here is the word "average" as in "average Nigerian couple". With a fixed income bracket. So statistically speaking, I mean with cold, hard numbers: Is it more expensive to basically feed and clothe 2, 3 or 4 children? And logically speaking, do you need a larger house to shelter 2,3 or 4 children? Do you need to spend more money on electricity to provide for 2,3 or 4 children? How much water do 2,3 or 4 children need to use? Thats just material consideration o. Not counting the knock-on effect of your stresses and struggles on the childs emotional and psychological health. Stop bringing out tired platitudes like "life was never meant to be easy" and "God is the provider of children" and stare the facts boldly in the face. 5 Likes |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by Nobody: 10:59am On Dec 30, 2019 |
Nowenuse: Do you really think Nigeria has enough resources to cater to its population? Quick comparison: Saudi Arabia did about $160 billion in oil revenue in 2018, which divided by 26.9 million people comes to about $5,900 per head; conversely, Nigeria earned $26.1billion in the same year, which divided by 180m people comes to a miserly $140 - if you factor in that the production cost for Saudi Arabia is around $3 per barrel, and $30 per barrel for Nigeria, you see how limited the so-called wealth of Nigeria really is (before even getting into the grubby hands of our politicians and grubby civil servants). Nigeria is already a poor country, with an incompetent thieving elite, a population already bursting at the seams, and next to no thriving industries to occupy the youth bulge. 5 Likes |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by HazzanTazzan(m): 11:10am On Dec 30, 2019 |
NiCurious: What conviction? There's no conviction... it's simple use of your sense to decide not to bring children into poverty... Doesn't mean you can't decide to have more if need be 6 Likes |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by nobone(f): 11:20am On Dec 30, 2019 |
@ OP, If your wife gives birth to a set of sextuplets at her first pregnancy, what will you do ![]() |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by mmsen: 11:29am On Dec 30, 2019 |
FromZeroToHero: I have heard of cases where the man has abandoned the woman because she didn't give birth to a boy. Utter stupidity. 5 Likes |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by mmsen: 11:31am On Dec 30, 2019 |
nobone: That is highly unlikely. The problem is that many Nigerians are careless when it comes to family planning because 'god will provide' ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by mmsen: 11:52am On Dec 30, 2019 |
midnighter: The person that you are arguing with is not well. Take heed. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by chrisfranc: 11:54am On Dec 30, 2019 |
Someone is making a lifetime sense. 1 Like |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by midnighter(f): 12:08pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
uninspired07: While I understand your sentiment, I think you are being too militant about it. Everybody must not have your own exact aspiration for their kids before they will have done well. Being able to provide food, shelter and education is no small achievement and shouldnt be derided. The problem is that not enough people can even reach that milestone. The person you quoted did not suggest that he would be careless with his wards' education in his comment; moreover a basic education for more people is what we need to improve literacy, productivity and quality of life and not everybody attending amazing private schools. 1-3 children that can be reasonably accommodated for by most parents is what we should be aiming for and not forcing our own ideas or big dreams on everybody. Its beginning to sound patronising. 1 Like |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by dayo229: 12:12pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Litmus: Any you think Pakistan, Indonesia and Bangladesh are any better than Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by Blendy77(f): 12:34pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
For me I love kids and I love crowd so will certainly go for more after the two I currently have. With this era of kids schooling abroad and abandoning home, I will rather have more to keep me busy when the older ones might have left for school. If it's just poverty our Parents were worse off than us today. If you have the means to take care of them very well there is nothing wrong in having 3-4 kids whether biological or adopted. |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by uninspired07: 3:27pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Nice contributions so far. Each person can choose to have as much children as they want. We would all face the consequences individually. Selah. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by Nowenuse: 3:31pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi: You are looking at Europeans through the eyes of Europe only, but that's not correct. Who is dominating the Americas & Australia today? Isn't it the same European descendants? Europeans and their descendants are around 1.5 billion people today, spread almost all over the world, While Black Africans and their descendants all over the world are just only more than 1 billion if you include Mixed race Brazilians together with us. South Asians and East/South-East Asians are now spreading their tentacles all over the world too. Go and see the way Chinese and Indians have almost successfully taken over Canada and to an extent UK. They dominate the professional jobs there and you a black person and an Indian person looking for job with equal qualifications, be rest assured the Indian person will get it before you do. Even when you are more qualified in some cases. It will be difficult for Chinese and Indians to dominate America cos of the power of the American entertainment and sports industry which Asians are not naturally good at, however ICT which is the pillar of American economy is already dominated by Indians. My friend who schooled in Germany some few years ago said as at the time he was in his early years of university, Indians had already started to come into the school in large numbers and few years after he finished, they had already overtaken the school and are very influencial in deciding who gets admitted or not. I have currently secured a professional job in Canada and will be emigrating in some weeks time and guess which people made all these possible? INDIANS! It is so sad that our people are drowned and enslaved on their routes to Europe. My heart bleeds and I wish it wouldn't be so. However, many more of our middle-class citizens are emigrating to advanced nations through better means and are becoming very productive citizens of those countries, leaving behind their middle-class positions in Nigeria for poorer people to fill them up. China is an unbeatable emerging world super power today and this to a large extent owes to it's population. Imagine if they had enforced this one child policy centuries ago when they had not exploded like this in terms of population, will they command the kind of influence they did today? Making a country progress is not a difficult thing. Quality education is the key. Core-northern muslims are the ones dragging Nigeria backwards today. Tribalism is also another major problem, but you can see that most Southern & Middlebelt Nigerians are now calling for restructuring and this will help curtail tribalism to a great extent, but core-northern muslims will never be interested or accept this without force. Dividing or Restructuring Nigeria should be Paramount in all our discussions and agitations, cos with this, things will naturally fall into a progressive line. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by Nowenuse: 3:37pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Bagehot: Natural resources are not the only things that sustains a country. How many natural resources does Japan or EU have? Human resources are far far more valuable. The problem with Nigeria is the core-northern muslims who are overwhelmingly illiterate and very unproductive. They are also the ones holding Nigeria backwards with their strong culture of tribalism and religious extremism which is also preventing this country from restructuring. This is why I said, dividing Nigeria or restructuring of this country should be the paramount topic on the lips and hearts of every youth in this nation, cos that is the solution to our problems as a people. With this, every other thing will naturally fall in line. 1 Like |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by CorporateJay(m): 4:07pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
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Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by midnighter(f): 4:23pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
CorporateJay: Lol you better shutup! So who is more likely to survive between somebody who can afford cancer treatment and somebody who cant ![]() Keep talking rubbish! Go and have your 12 children and leave sensible people alone biko 7 Likes |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by hartson(m): 4:35pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
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Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by CorporateJay(m): 4:50pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
midnighter: |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by armyofone(m): 6:39pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
I thought you keeping busy vacationing and seeing the world should be the best thing! Blendy77: 1 Like |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by 3rdclassESCAPEE: 6:55pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Khaleell001:you are still reiterating some points.. |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by bjnorl: 3:42am On Dec 31, 2019 |
LZAA: Brazil birth rate was 13.9 per 1,000 people. Nigeria birth rate was 39,37 2 Likes |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by Blendy77(f): 7:51am On Dec 31, 2019 |
armyofone:Having several kids does not prevent u from doing that if you can afford it. At old age children hav a way of making u look and feel younger. |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by Gerrard59(m): 1:20pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
1Sharon: It's ignorance bedevilled by conspiracy theories. Nothing more. 2 Likes |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by officialfestus(m): 3:42pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
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Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by dankol: 4:57pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
Blendy77: Lobatan ![]() ![]() |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 11:36pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
uninspired07:There are Nigerians that have decided to not get married because of the economic situation. Why didn't you do same? Oga, don't even get married if you are so concerned about keeping our population low. |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by SmileDance(f): 7:46am On Jan 03, 2020 |
xcelentattitude:and you think buharis father did us a favour by giving birth to him? Oya clap for yourself 1 Like |
Re: How Do Average Nigerian Couples Have More Than 2 Children? by mmsen: 4:05pm On Jan 06, 2020 |
Litmus: You need to look at the numbers of children that the average woman is having in each country. Bangladesh has its population growth under control and living standards have risen as a result. Pakistan is Pakistan. Not as bad as northern Nigeria but still a disgrace. ![]() 1 Like |
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