eduj:
Aba

abia1stson are you seeing the main pictures of Aba you refused to post? For a man, you lie alot

Abia1stSon:


Which one is not real picture of Aba? Who doesn't know that Aba and Abia state in general is a sewage pit toilet? 95% is dilapidated and filthy. That's the fact. Stop deceiving yourself.

You lie!! Abia state in general? have you been to Umuahia before?? Stop lieng. Aba is not as you liers always depict it to be.

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amadice:


look if you don't stop these rubbish of destroying abia state and Aba images on Nairaland, These 2020 will see your end. take or leave it. Enough is Enough.

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Back to sender. Why not take it up with the people that went to Aba to do the video. Are you scared of BVI? Go to YouTube and face them.

eduj:
Hope the demolish that slum which serves as a cattle market. That's prime land for a riverside estate

That's no longer a river but a stream.

Abia1stSon:



Back to sender. Why not take it up with the people that went to Aba to do the video. Are you scared of BVI? Go to YouTube and face them.

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there is nothing like back to sender here, its a degree that has been sealed in heaven and earth . Heaven knows that both BVI and your kind tarnishing Aba and Abia state image will face your end these 2020 either by fire, water or iron. If you don't have any meaningful to do with your miserable life and data go to porn sites and Bleep your self.... Anu ofia madu

MelesZenawi:



Mr Kikake....haba......Why the must?


Anambra is too small to be balkanized further.....

We should be looking at states with enough land mass to increase our spread..... Moreover I know why you insisting on Njaba but consideration should be be placed to Adada..first.

Did they tell you that land mass is what is considered before creating a state in an area? If land mass is considered, present Imo State with capital at Owerri would never have been created. Because land mass of some northern states is more than land mass of the whole 5 southeast states put together.

History is considered for state creation.

Njaba State was about to be created in 2007.
But senator Arthur Nzeribe from Oguta local govt area who was on political rift against then gov Udenwa from Orlu started a problem.

Nzeribe requested that Orashi be called the 6th state in the SE, with capital in Oguta, but excluded Orlu.

But before then, Nzeribe had been pushing for Njaba state with capital at Orlu right from the 1970s.

The long rift then made Nsukka people heighten their demand for Adada state.
But who can divide Enugu area for the third time to get Adada as sixth state in the SE, whereas Njaba area remains untouched for the first time?

As you talk blind like you are from Imo East (Owerri) senatorial zone, be informed that people of old Anambra State knew that carving out oil- bearing Imo State from the old East Central State means leaving Ndi Anamba with Anambra State without oil producing status, yet Ndi Anambra did not object to carving Imo state with Owerri as capital out from the old East Central State.

kikake:


Did they tell you that land mass is what is considered before creating a state in an area? If land mass is considered, present Imo State with capital at Owerri would never have been created. Because land mass of some northern states is more than land mass of the whole 5 southeast states put together.

History is considered for state creation.

Njaba State was about to be created in 2007.
But senator Arthur Nzeribe from Oguta local govt area who was on political rift against then gov Udenwa from Orlu started a problem.

Nzeribe requested that Orashi be called the 6th state in the SE, with capital in Oguta, but excluded Orlu.

But before then, Nzeribe had been pushing for Njaba state with capital at Orlu right from the 1970s.

The long rift then made Nsukka people heighten their demand for Adada state.
But who can divide Enugu area for the third time to get Adada as sixth state in the SE, whereas Njaba area remains untouched for the first time?

As you talk blind like you are from Imo East (Owerri) senatorial zone, be informed that people of old Anambra State knew that carving out oil- bearing Imo State from the old East Central State means leaving Ndi Anamba without oil producing status, yet Ndi Anambra did not object to carving Imo state with Owerri as capital from the old East Central State.

But Anambra today again now has oil. I don't see any reason or anything wrong if Enugu is splitted further because the landmas is quite okay.

Let me ask talking of Njaba state with your own geography how many local government will be moved from Anambra to the same Njaba state. I mean the neighboring towns.


How large will the state be?

Try and consider these on such scale not merely on political rift or undertone.

kikake:




Orlu and Okigwe in Imo state are on the same rot list with Aba.

Abia and Imo states established an unknown doctrine that states were created for state governors to first develop the state capital with funds of the State.

Rochas Okorocha in 8 years told whoever cared to listen: "I am building our dear State capital city to international standard."

Orlu and Okigwe decayed.

Owerri is like a century ahead of Orlu and Okigwe.

Don't go there please. Abia state has no rival as far Nigeria is concerned.

Umuahia is a glorified village

Aba is a disgusting sewage pit toilet littered with bad roads and filth.

kikake:




Orlu and Okigwe in Imo state are on the same rot list with Aba.

Abia and Imo states established an unknown doctrine that states were created for state governors to first develop the state capital with funds of the State.

Rochas Okorocha in 8 years told whoever cared to listen: "I am building our dear State capital city to international standard."

Orlu and Okigwe decayed.

Owerri is like a century ahead of Orlu and Okigwe.

Is this your grouse for new state?

Orlu to Anambra is not far at all. let's focus on Adada state Biko Nwanne mmadu.

Abia1stSon:



Don't go there please. Abia state has no rival as far Nigeria is concerned.

Umuahia is a glorified village

Aba is a disgusting sewage pit toilet littered with bad roads and filth.

Ozugo.

Nwayo .

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MyopicMods:



Is this your grouse for new state?

Orlu to Anambra is not far at all. let's focus on Adada state Biko Nwanne mmadu.

The land mass of Imo West Senatorial zone for proposed Njaba State alone is larger than the land mass of your proposed Adada.

There are 12 huge local govt areas in Imo West senatorial zone.

There are about 7 local govt areas in Adada.
Imo West is an oil and gas producing area for a viable Njaba (or Anim)
State. Adada is not.
So why will anyone go for Adada from the same Enugu area which has been divided three times in the past?

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BeachLife:
If you look at a live satellite ,you would see that river is shallow at only 20 ft deep and 200 M wide. There are a few small islands in between which further narrows the width .The entire river is in Calabar(Akwacross) Territory based on international law.
Igboland can either have a river port at Onitsha which I prefer, but will cost billions of dollars , or have a dry port with a connecting railway to Calabar/akwa ibom seaport . But i'll advise igbolanders to be more diplomatic in their agitations and less antagonistic towards other ethnic nations,especially their neighbor and allies i'll assume the Calabarians . We all have our strengths and weakneses and can work together for benefit of all . Do you see Sweden fighting Norway or South Korea fighting Japan? I think that of all Nigerian and African ethnicity Igbos and calabarians are the most cohesive allies. Just because South Korea and Japan are cohesive does not mean they should be one country .
P.s I think the ethnic groups first need to unite internally to curb internal strife and sabotage ,then they can all decide on causes of actions. No ethnic nation can secede alone, but imagine if Yorubaland,Igboland,Calabar,Ijawland ,Kanuriland,etc. all speak with one voice and have a diplomatic agreement on autonomy or secession . Right now none of these groups are internally united.

The river on the map is between rivers state and Akwa Ibom state.

It’s only 23 nautical miles from the open sea.

“The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea now gives a landlocked country a right of access to and from the sea without taxation of traffic through transit states. The United Nations has a programme of action to assist landlocked developing countries,[11] and the current responsible Undersecretary-General is Anwarul Karim Chowdhury.”

Please when you have time, read up on the United Nations laws of the sea

Also barges are used all over the world to transport goods and commodities up the river. See the pictures below.

A functional river port can be built at the southern tip of Abia state and goods conveyed with barges to the port. This is being done to all over the world as we speak.

kikake:




The land mass of Imo West Senatorial zone for proposed Njaba State alone is larger than the land mass of your proposed Adada.

There are 12 huge local govt areas in Imo West senatorial zone.

There are about 7 local govt areas in Adada.
Imo West is an oil and gas producing area for a viable Njaba (or Anim)
State. Adada is not.
So why will anyone go for Adada from the same Enugu area which has been divided three times in the past?

How many will be added to he seven local governments here from anambra?

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This was to be the first high rise building in the SE. Located along factory road aba, this building (15 story high) was being built by dubic around 2010/12.He began construction of the edifice after Guinness brewery acquired his brewery. It would have hosted a mall and hotel among other facilities. Unfortunately, he died after the building got above the underground floors.A year later his eldest son died when the building got to two floors above the ground. with his family locked in litigation over inheritance, the contractors packed up-even though rumours abound that Dubic paid in full for the project

BeachLife:
I would ideally prefer a port at Onitsha area. What ethnicity is River state part of ?

Me too. Onitsha should be able to contain bigger vessels but it is much farther away from the open sea when compared to Obuaku in Abia state.

BeachLife:
I would ideally prefer a port at Onitsha area. What ethnicity is River state part of ?

Rivers state is multiethnic. It has igbos, Ijos, Ikwerre, ogoni etc.

eduj:
This was to be the first high rise building in the SE. Located along factory road aba, this building (15 story high) was being built by dubic around 2010/12.He began construction of the edifice after Guinness brewery acquired his brewery. It would have hosted a mall and hotel among other facilities. Unfortunately, he died after the building got above the underground floors.A year later his eldest son died when the building got to two floors above the ground. with his family locked in litigation over inheritance, the contractors packed up-even though rumours abound that Dubic paid in full for the project

This is very sad. I hope the family settles the dispute and finish the project.

Ndibunna:



How many will be added to he seven local governments here from anambra?

Has Adada any boundary with Anambra state?
What criterion would make anyone go to divide Enugu area for the third time for Adada State, when Njaba area never divided even for once is asking for a State?

eduj:
This was to be the first high rise building in the SE. Located along factory road aba, this building (15 story high) was being built by dubic around 2010/12.He began construction of the edifice after Guinness brewery acquired his brewery. It would have hosted a mall and hotel among other facilities. Unfortunately, he died after the building got above the underground floors.A year later his eldest son died when the building got to two floors above the ground. with his family locked in litigation over inheritance, the contractors packed up-even though rumours abound that Dubic paid in full for the project

Another sad story about Aba. Aba was the city of all Igbos right from origin, until it was desecrated by bad governors beginning 1999.

Then, any Igbo man who landed Aba never went home empty handed.

If the tempo of Aba's rise during the 1980s was sustained, we would not have been moving to Lagos today.

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BeachLife:
If you look at a live satellite ,you would see that river is shallow at only 20 ft deep and 200 M wide. There are a few small islands in between which further narrows the width .The entire river is in Calabar(Akwacross) Territory based on international law.
Igboland can either have a river port at Onitsha which I prefer, but will cost billions of dollars , or have a dry port with a connecting railway to Calabar/akwa ibom seaport . But i'll advise igbolanders to be more diplomatic in their agitations and less antagonistic towards other ethnic nations,especially their neighbor and allies i'll assume the Calabarians . We all have our strengths and weaknesses and can work together for benefit of all . Do you see Sweden fighting Norway or South Korea fighting Japan? Why do blacks like fighting each other ? I think Igbos and calabarians are the most cohesive allies among all Nigerian ethnicity. But just because South Korea and Japan are cohesive does not mean they should be one country .
P.s I think the ethnic groups first need to unite internally to curb internal sabotage ,then they can all decide . No ethnic nation can secede alone.Right now none of these groups are internally united.

I think Igbo should do some soul searching , shun antagonism, greed , and embrace diplomacy . Have you seen Japanese screaming and cursing after being bombed and defeated? Be humble and work in silence without revealing your plans and weaknesses for your enemies to mock and take advantage of .
Cut your loss and move on from the controversial Biafra and the disgraceful past . Use the term "'Igboland"or 'AlaIgbo" just like Tswanaland (Botswana) or Ireland , and create a new flag and map. That simply makes more sense and will speed up the process.

I'm surprised those engaging you in argument are yet to suss out that you're a impostor! Which Igbo will use such wicked terms as the ones you used in the bolded to describe his own ethnicity? Pray, the Japan you were using to cite your dumb example....were they made to share the same country with the same people who had murdered them in their millions and still brag about it decades later? Not only that, but the Japanese were not sharing the same country with the very same people that hate their guts......under a political-economy that keeps them away from providing head of state; takes control of their resources; splits and reduces their ancestral land; and unfairly treats their entrepreneurs vis-a-vis those from the 'chosen' ethnicity that believe they own the country!

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BeachLife:
These and many more reasons only show how divided the ethnicities are . How can autonomy ,independence or secession be possible with such division ? Exclusion and division = internal sabotage?
Ikwerre is igbo,as well as Anioma . The earlier that is resolved and established ,the better.
Exclusion causes internal sabotage. Inclusion is the key to unity and progress.

First, there are no ethnicities in Igbo ethnic group.
Igbo is Igbo anywhere, what we have is Igbo dialects differently.

We are talking about state creations in the southeast still under Nigeria. It's not about division of Igbos.

You may need to understand that the fewer the number of states in the southeast, the more people of the southeast are under-represented in National Assembly, and at the Federal Executive Council where decisions are usually made about location of development projects..
Worse, the smaller the number of states in the southeast, the more monthly federal allocations are denied the southeast...
Separate Biafra secession issue from state creation, they are not related.