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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:28pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter: I saw how the psychological effect of hiring Pep made City finish 4th. They have an explanation for any thing Pep achieves. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:31pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Greatihex: lol. HOW else will I know if the players SAF inherited were better than City players in 2016? Did I see those players play? The only way I can judge them is their PREVIOUS achievement. Just like if CFC end up winning the league this season. Only a fool will turn around next season if they are 15th to say they are no better than Sheffield who maybe are 12th that season. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:32pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Pep is involved. If Pep was using Ansu in Barca..they would have said he was the best player ever at 16. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 8:34pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: You are a slowpoke. PAP “met” Jor Hart in City. That he sold him was no one business. Sterling of 2016 was head n shoulder better than Duff in any year. KDB of 2016 was better than Robben of 2004. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:36pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Players Ranieri had bought with good money after Roman had come. Because he felt they were good enough to win. Which is why they hired Mourinho. They knew Ranieri Underperformed. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 8:37pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: Hey idiot, are you ready to back up this assertion with your money? Or you are blind since? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:37pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
larride: Is the league over, have they played the same teams home and away? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:39pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
larride: You can call me names. It speaks more about you than me. Your brain is functioning. Pep met him but sold him. Yet he inherited better squad. The same squad you want to use to justify why he had 100/134. Sterling of 2016 was better than Duff in 2004. Hahaha hahaha. What else? That 2016 City squad is even the best ever EPL team. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:40pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: Pep took a team that finished 4th to 3rd and 1st twice in a row. Verdict not an achievement because of psychological effect of the sack Pep took Bayern from Juup who was sacked but won a treble. No psychological effect. Pep failed at Bayern You see how logical that is 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 8:40pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Don’t be like the other guy, I believe your eyes are working clearly. Read the post again. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:41pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
larride: Shebi that Joe Hart moved mountains in Torino and is moving mountains in Burnley right now 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:41pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
This post or another one? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:42pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: League table doesn't matter, points doesn't matter only subjective judgment of player abilities by larride matters |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:42pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter: We know them. I am only having a laugh watching him slap himself in the face. Even the CFC fans that were supporting have since abandoned him. I am sure he is regretting ever venturing down this rabbit hole. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:43pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Functioning brain. The people in Harvard and co are dullards. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:45pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter:that is a lie |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:46pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: When Pep is involved there will always be an excuse If he took Barcelona that finished trophyless to sextuple its because of Messi like Messi was dead before Pep got there If he took Bayern to 3 league wins and 3 CL semi, he failed because he cannot win a treble since Bayern were always winning trebles every season before him If he took City to 2 league titles breaking points records, its because he spent money on buying players why cant he use his own biological children to play, win all trophy all games if he is a good coach 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:46pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Greatihex: LOL. Even when I have brought EVIDENCE more than ONCE. Man will still argue with clear evidence. Because...narrative. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:47pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Greatihex: How much are you willing to stake on it? What exactly is your points and how much are you willing to stake on it. Its time I start impoverishing you this new year 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 8:48pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: 50k and I will mention 5 that had over 15 apps. Deal? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:48pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: Thinking about it, its not worth making him poorer |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 8:49pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Please what do you use to judge the strength of a team? Dayo you are drunk. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:49pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter: He only needs to lose one game or trophy to prove he is a fraud. When he wins, they know the reason and it does not involve him. But when he loses, yea..it is solely his fault. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:50pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
larride: 15 apps or starts? Functioning brain should know the difference. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:51pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Even if you give him links he will argue with it. Like he was in the Bayern board room when decisions were being made. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:54pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
larride: A league of 38 games isn't good enough. Points haul isn't enough its subjective measurement of abilities that is 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 8:55pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Eruditor:You have been drawing my POV into your discussion with Larride which he might not have subscribed to then. In another post back then, I clearly acknowledged that for the sake of argument we can sometime try to stretch things. I believed that Manchester United team then had the capability to compete with Pep's team after placing the respective players side by side but I admit I was overstretching it. For instance, I always believed Mata can be our Silva whilst Valencia and Walker were similar players. I thought Pogba could be our De Bruyne and Lukaku could score the goals we needed just as De Gea was superior to their keeper then but to be honest, I judged Mata using his output for Chelsea same way I did for Lukaku assuming that if he scored goals playing for a lesser talented Everton side, he could do better with Manchester United but no, things didn't quite work out as I thought... The performance of the respective players over the past couple of years goes to show that I was wrong thus my position then shouldn't be used as a yardstick in your exchange with Larride who probably held a divergent opinion. I believe Pep's input improved the likes of Walker and to some extent Sterling but players like David Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne and Fernandinho were already established and formed the core of his team. Manchester United like many other clubs didn't have that core base or the players were already aging and I believe it's what Larride is trying to point out to you. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 8:56pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: Look at what you wrote and what I wrote, you should be bold enough to take the bet. 50k and I will show you 5 players that had 15 apps in the league. Deal? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:59pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
patrickmuf: Like I said, you are courteous so I won't even try to shred this. What I will remind you is I asked you will anyone argue that Salah of Klopp and Mou are the same? Or KdB of Pep and Mou? You cannot separate the role a manager played in making his players better. That the players you believed in did not achieve what you estimated about them does not make them less than what you estimated. I submit it to you that if Pep coached Pogba and KdB was in ManU when Mou was there. You will argue that Pogba is better. So I will just let the issue rest. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 9:01pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
raumdeuter: LOL. Players abilities become subjective when they have almost the same abilities. There are players that are clearly better than their contemporaries. Answer this simple question, Was Leicester team that won the league in 15/16 better than City 15/16 team? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:04pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
If Elruditor like, he should continue typing these long epistles from now till May, it will still END IN TEARS (hands in peppersoup) 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 9:11pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Ibime: Even if I type 2 lines it will be an epistle. You are lucky I have lost Streetwise's number. 1 Like |
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