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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 11:18pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
MrPresident1: Now I know people love to believe in lies even in the face of the n.aked truth. Watch this crap I read in Chapter 4 of the book; "Originally all Hamites and Shemites (or Semites) were black. Abraham was a black Shemite and a descendant of Shem." This is my humble question, if Shemites were blacks, how come these Semitic races in the Middle East today are not so in complexion? 1) Lud (Lydians/Turks) 2) Aram (Syrians) 3) Arphaxad (Chaldeans/Iraqis) 4) Asshur (Assyrians) 5) Elam (Persians/Iranians and parts of Iraq) Other jokes I came across in the book are; a) The black Jewish empire of Ghana b) The West African Jews during the slave trade c) The black Jews of Angola d) The black Jews of Dahomey (Benin) e) Yoruba Jews of Nigeria Zirimane, Scottallen, CaveAdullam, can you imagine this joke? That grown arse men and women believe in these glaring lies? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khiaa(f): 5:05am On Jan 03, 2020 |
ZiriMane:You already Know that the ancient Egyptians were black so explain to me how Joseph, Moses, and your so called Jesus were able to blend in with the Egyptians if they were white. For your information the Middle East was part of Africa until it was changed in the 20th century. Those white people in Palestine aka Israel are only Interlopers aka squatters aka bums. 3 Likes |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 7:04am On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: Before the 20th century the middle East was known as part of Africa, its even on the old world map as such. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 7:35am On Jan 03, 2020 |
Scottallen: As you know the ancient Egyptians were black, can you explain to me how Joseph, Paul, Moses, and your baby Jesus were mistaken to be Egyptians? How did they blend in with the Egyptian people? 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Scottallen: 7:58am On Jan 03, 2020 |
khia: Like I said the Ancient Hebrews were olive skinned with a little black admixture. The ancient Egyptians have the color of the Eritreans, Ethiopians and Somalians. The Nubians are still there in lower Egypt. I maintain that we West Africans have nothing to do with Ancient Egypt or Isreal. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 8:01am On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: All blacks are not Hebrews but all Hebrews are black. Jew is a religion. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 8:22am On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: http://www.angelfire.com/il2/HebrewIsraelites3/color2.html |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by mysticwarrior(m): 8:27am On Jan 03, 2020 |
Scottallen:you are very correct, I recognize a man with vast knowledge when you see one, am impressed bro. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 8:32am On Jan 03, 2020 |
Scottallen: The ancient Hebrews were not an admixture of anything, they were a pure dark skin people. God forbid them to mix with other nations. West Africans aren't the only people with very dark skin, some Ethiopians and Somalies are darker than west Africans. PS.. In case you didn't know it the middle east was part of the African continent before the 20th century. 3 Likes |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Scottallen: 8:43am On Jan 03, 2020 |
khia: Lies and illusion! I have nothing to argue with you. Keep believing your own lies! Christianity and Islam brought about all these bullshit. No one wants to be African anymore. It is hilarious! 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 9:02am On Jan 03, 2020 |
Scottallen: I'm neither christian nor Islamic, I don't even believe in religion, I just love history. What have I lied about? Are these statements lies? 1. Some Ethiopians and Somalis are darker than West Africans. 2. The Ancient Egyptians were black people. 3. The middle East was considered part of the African continent before the 20th century. Stating facts about the ancient Hebrews has nothing to do with not wanting to be African. Where did you come up with that bullshit? 2 Likes |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 9:23am On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: A lot of scriptures were added to the bible and some verses were misinterpreted by King James, read the Torah or the Greek version for authenticity. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by mysticwarrior(m): 9:29am On Jan 03, 2020 |
khia:the ancient Egyptians are of dark skin people similar to those in Sudan,Eritrea, Somalia and Ethiopia, but they are not of the same race as the people of west Africa, west Africans are negroes and those people are not. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by mysticwarrior(m): 9:34am On Jan 03, 2020 |
khia:moses wife was a dark skin woman different from the hebrews who left Egypt, and she was reffered to as a kushite woman, the ancient Hebrews were not pure dark skin people as you claim. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Scottallen: 9:36am On Jan 03, 2020 |
khia: Majority of Somalians are not darker than the average West African. The Bejas, and Nubians are still in upper Sudan and lower Egypt. Those are the ones who share similar history with the ancient Egyptians. The ancient Egyptians were Black people but there were different from West Africans or Bantu or Congloids. They painted themselves on the walls. They have a skin color different from thr Nubians. However, they were still black. The Nubians were darker. Nobody cared about skin color in those days. Africa is vast. We have never been one people. Each region has its own kind of people The Middle East has never been part of Africa unless in antiquity. The gulf of Aden has always been there. Also, the sinai peninsula has always been there. Before the advent of Islam and Christianity, we West Africans never had all these bogus stories of origin from the Middle East. It all boils down to religion. You have been affected by the lies subconsciously. Embrace your root! You are from here in West Africa and the surrounding regions and no place more! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:37am On Jan 03, 2020 |
Lol, our “Hebrews are black people” are still comforting themselves with lies. When you guys are ready to explain how these Semitic races in the Middle East are not blacks, then I will take you more seriously; 1) Lud (Lydians/Turks) 2) Aram (Syrians) 3) Arphaxad (Chaldeans/Iraqis) 4) Asshur (Assyrians) 5) Elam (Persians/Iranians and parts of Iraq) I will be back shortly to have some more fun. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:41am On Jan 03, 2020 |
mysticwarrior: In addition, please let them explain why the Jewish prophet Jeremiah was fascinated by the skin of the Cushites (Ethiopians) Jeremiah 13 v 23; 23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 9:50am On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: You are going by the modern people not the ancient ones. I bet you can find very dark skin descendants of those ancient people you named in those countries. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:58am On Jan 03, 2020 |
khia: Same way I can find albinos in Africa (albinism cuts across most races too though), which doesn’t mean a damn thing. Now back to the matter on ground. If Semitic people were once blacks, what happened to the entire Middle Eastern nations over the past 2,000 years that changed their complexion to what it is today? 1) Lud (Lydians/Turks) 2) Aram (Syrians) 3) Arphaxad (Chaldeans/Iraqis) 4) Asshur (Assyrians) 5) Elam (Persians/Iranians and parts of Iraq) Were these people blacks too? I would appreciate historical evidences. Thanks. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by CaveAdullam: 10:07am On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel:Although I'm learning, not knowledgeable alot about this topic, but when I was at the concluding part of the book of Lamentations yesterday morning I came across this; 4:8-9 NIV:Their princes were brighter than snow and whiter than milk, their bodies more ruddy than rubies, their appearance like lapis lazuli. NIV:But now they are blacker than soot; they are not recognized in the streets. Their skin has shriveled on their bones; it has become as dry as a stick. 5:10 NIV:Our skin is hot as an oven, feverish from hunger. Any inference at all? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 10:10am On Jan 03, 2020 |
Scottallen: Where in any of my posts did I say they were west Africans? Your problem is you cant separate west Africans from other black people. The Aboriginals of Australia are darker than west Africans, the native Indians in India are darker than a lot of west Africans, some Egyptians are darker than west Africans yet they aren't west Africans and they are black . Do some good research and you will find that the middle East was once part of the African continent until it was changed by you know who (whites)in the 20th century. There is no shame in admitting that you were wrong the shame is in continuing your ignorance. 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 10:16am On Jan 03, 2020 |
CaveAdullam: Good morning bro. If you check, I’ve always maintained the middle easterners were olive skinned. Olive skinned people have the tendency to tan and get darker (note, not black) under harsh conditions as shown in Lamentations 4 v 8-9. When conditions get better, they revert to their former state. Up till now, I’ve been asking why and how the Semitic races in the Middle East aren’t blacks if their ancestors were so. No answer. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 10:20am On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: Like I said some of those descendants are still there and they are still black. You being a black man you know how hard it is to keep your pe.nis out of non black puna. Interracial marriages existed back then and wiped out the aboriginals just as the pure black race in Brazil was basically wiped out because of interracial sex. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 10:33am On Jan 03, 2020 |
khia: Pure black race in Brazil? You mean to say the Aztecs, Incas, Marajoarans and Tupis were once blacks too? Also note, the aboriginals were not wiped off by interracial weddings. They were wiped off by genocide and diseases. Coming back to the Middle East, which races did the Semitic ancestors of the Iraqis, Iranians, Syrians and Turks intermarry with that dramatically changed their complexion from black to olive colored skin today? I need historical evidences of these massive interracial weddings. Does this argument of interracial weddings not affect Subsaharan Africa as well? Why do we still have majority of blacks in Subsaharan Africa hmmm? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by CaveAdullam: 10:39am On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel:i guess it is an additional evidence to the ones you have at hand. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 10:41am On Jan 03, 2020 |
CaveAdullam: Not sure I understand, as per evidence to the Jews were blacks? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 10:45am On Jan 03, 2020 |
mysticwarrior: Stop confusing pure black with Africans other pure black people existed other than Africans. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by CaveAdullam: 10:51am On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel:not originally black and as you said earlier. [/quote]OkCornel: Good morning bro. If you check, I’ve always maintained the middle easterners were olive skinned. Olive skinned people have the tendency to tan and get darker (note, not black) under harsh conditions as shown in Lamentations 4 v 8-9. When conditions get better, they revert to their former state. Up till now, I’ve been asking why and how the Semitic races in the Middle East aren’t blacks if their ancestors were so. No answer. 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Scottallen: 12:24pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
khia: I'm tired of arguing with you. You can claim the whole world is black. It changes nothing. Peace! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Scottallen: 12:26pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
mysticwarrior: Tell them abeg! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 12:30pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
Scottallen: I'm not claiming anything just stating historical facts. Don't worry, the fact that ancient and present day Hebrews are black won't stop your beloved white folks from existing so calm down. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 12:35pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
mysticwarrior: What is the definition of negro? |
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