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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:43pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
We are yet to ask for IMF Bailout so worry less... Ethiopia have asked the Chinese to reschedule the sgr debt..that is an option we can take...but we are happy repaying our debts unlike Ghana
grin grin grin grin grin


Ghana didnt need to ask the chinese to reschedule to money we borrowed from them
We repaid them after 2 years and they left.

IMF give us 800M to help solve our dollar shortage as we entered a severe energy crisis where we had to rechannel state resources.
And in three years, we spent close to 15 billion dollars in expanding our energy infrastructure targetting demand, supply, transmission and the availability of fuel.

That is the single largest investment made in any short term period on any sector in Ghana.
And today, all those investments are making profits.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:45pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
We are 47m.Our ordinary tax revenue are projected at 17-18B.our Appropriation in Aid at 3-4B.Total 21B.The rest we will borrow prudently.China as creditor is not as cruel as your daddy the IMF who literally runs Ghana.China are really chilled out and I'd bet if we were to be hard pressed they'd give us more time to repay.They have way too much money unlike the broke IMF.
let deal with what we know to be facts

your tax revenue is 12 billion and that is meagre for 53 million people

The Chinese have already seen the light and are in a hurry to pull out of Kenya hence the reluctance to give you any more money to complete the rail.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 1:02pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
Iran had earlier been banned from selling it's oil but China may buy some... Irrelevant development


Search it or watch TV oil prices are soaring literally search oil prices and you will see they have gone up by 4%

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:15pm On Jan 03, 2020
This vid is entitled Nigerian cadets deliberately cause traffic jam. You actually hear a guy saying,"they can't do anything,they'll only wait;they can't do anything!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlF0_123LiE

A lone cadet is seen marching on the road in front of temporarily stopped cars-WTF!? The Naij army mentality,the arrogance and contempt for the public-THEIR BOSSES! Anyway I did say your entire WA socioculture is FUBAR,though Gh isn't as bad in this respect.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:22pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
Wet dreams cannot finance SGR.You began SGR construction I think in 2005...and all you ever completed is useless Abuja kaduna passenger line that carries 1k passengers daily.Lagos-Ibandan SGR like expressway is hopelessly behind schedule.You need to grow beyond your pop growth rate...so 2.5% is not enough to make a dent on poverty

Hahaha rvp we know you are very stupid but please be careful with your lies...a vision ( proposed project)envisaged to connect the entire country by rail in 2005 is different from actual construction that started on the Abuja-kaduna line in 2014 and was completed late 2016...we barely rest a few months and got up back to start three sgr at once(lagos-ibadan, lagos-abeokuta, warri-itakpe) and every one of them was completed last year(2019) within a space of two year....theover 13 stations are what is left before we fully commission them ...don't use the incompetence of your leaders to judge other infastructurally progressive African nation..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:39pm On Jan 03, 2020
samorobo:


Hahaha rvp we know you are very stupid but please be careful with your lies...a vision ( proposed project)envisaged to connect the entire country by rail in 2005 is different from actual construction that started on the Abuja-kaduna line in 2014 and was completed late 2016...we barely rest a few months and got up back to start three sgr at once(lagos-ibadan, lagos-abeokuta, warri-itakpe) and every one of them was completed last year(2019) within a space of two year....theover 13 stations are what is left before we fully commission them ...don't use the incompetence of your leaders to judge other infastructurally progressive African nation..

I saw that on the sufferingsmiling show, episode 19. Kudos Nigeria. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:42pm On Jan 03, 2020
Just30:
let deal with what we know to be facts

your tax revenue is 12 billion and that is meagre for 53 million people

The Chinese have already seen the light and are in a hurry to pull out of Kenya hence the reluctance to give you any more money to complete the rail.

Are the Chinese really in a hurry to pull out? Will they take our port back to China when they do? You yahoo boys should keep your stories straight.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:54pm On Jan 03, 2020
gallivant:


Are the Chinese really in a hurry to pull out? Will they take our port back to China when they do? You yahoo boys should keep your stories straight.
hey dumb dumb

i guess you dont know they have refused to give you any more money to complete the rail.

Typical China, they will sabotage the project in order to lay hands on things that were collateralised
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 2:02pm On Jan 03, 2020
Just30:
let deal with what we know to be facts

your tax revenue is 12 billion and that is meagre for 53 million people

The Chinese have already seen the light and are in a hurry to pull out of Kenya hence the reluctance to give you any more money to complete the rail.

The way you repeat debunked BS says more about you than you'll ever know! Not in a good way!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:03pm On Jan 03, 2020
Just30:
let deal with what we know to be facts

your tax revenue is 12 billion and that is meagre for 53 million people

The Chinese have already seen the light and are in a hurry to pull out of Kenya hence the reluctance to give you any more money to complete the rail.
Don't you think it's rich for you to deal with facts, I mean you won't even know it if it hit your face pwaah.Kenya tax revenue of 12B nigga...like really.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:06pm On Jan 03, 2020
kikuyu1:
This vid is entitled Nigerian cadets deliberately cause traffic jam. You actually hear a guy saying,"they can't do anything,they'll only wait;they can't do anything!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlF0_123LiE

A lone cadet is seen marching on the road in front of temporarily stopped cars-WTF!? The Naij army mentality,the arrogance and contempt for the public-THEIR BOSSES! Anyway I did say your entire WA socioculture is FUBAR,though Gh isn't as bad in this respect.
yeap in any zoo it's survival for the strongest... Nigeria epithomise it with a twist...the fittest try to escape the zoo leaving the muscle men to kill, kidnap, steal and plunder her

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:12pm On Jan 03, 2020
Just30:
grin grin grin grin grin


Ghana didnt need to ask the chinese to reschedule to money we borrowed from them
We repaid them after 2 years and they left.

IMF give us 800M to help solve our dollar shortage as we entered a severe energy crisis where we had to rechannel state resources.
And in three years, we spent close to 15 billion dollars in expanding our energy infrastructure targetting demand, supply, transmission and the availability of fuel.

That is the single largest investment made in any short term period on any sector in Ghana.
And today, all those investments are making profits.
Say the idiots who are on 16th IMF Bailout and are paying 1B dollars excess capacity charge to thermal power plants.The difference btw Ghana and Nigeria is the same power sector wise...one has few power producers running huge thermal generators and billing the country crazy...the other has everyone running their generator and paying 40 cents dollars per unit.Smart countries like Kenya is top 5 world-wide in cheaper renewable energy.As for our debt management we had a long history of prudence in public financial management.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:21pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
Nearly every African country has some thousand of km of British or European colonial built MGR.We are talking green Field SGR in Kenya.That began operations 2yrs ago and you're in such a hurry to see it profitable.Give it 5yrs...it will then be able to meet it OPEX, have some money left to repay debts and even make some profit or invest in CAPEX.

Mumu boy....talk is cheap....I am glad you finally agreed that your sgr has failed just like everyother thing in your country ranging from your failed loss making airline to your failed last mile connection....

Give it 5 years and your loan repayment would have hit sh300bn.....if you have sense you will start telling yourself the truth...it is obvious your are not yet mature economically to take on such project but you ran into it because you heard countries like Nigeria, south Africa, Egypt, morroco is doing the same hence the failure from that locomotive, generator, cargo-less sgr....

Your country is truly a pathetic banana republic with so many carrot talk from your coven of witches Polictians...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:29pm On Jan 03, 2020
kikuyu1:


The way you repeat debunked BS says more about you than you'll ever know! Not in a good way!

The whole world knows the truth except foolish kenyans like you

No wonder the kenyattas keep raping you guys grin grin grin grin


bunch of circuses

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:31pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
Don't you think it's rich for you to deal with facts, I mean you won't even know it if it hit your face pwaah.Kenya tax revenue of 12B nigga...like really.
grin grin grin grin

lets go

what is Kenya tax revenue ?

let see if you can be truthful
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:32pm On Jan 03, 2020
samorobo:


Mumu boy....talk is cheap....I am glad you finally agreed that your sgr has failed just like everyother thing in your country ranging from your failed loss making airline to your failed last mile connection....

Give it 5 years and your loan repayment would have hit sh300bn.....if you have sense you will start telling yourself the truth...it is obvious your are not yet mature economically to take on such project but you ran into it because you heard countries like Nigeria, south Africa, Egypt, morroco is doing the same hence the failure from that locomotive, generator, cargo-less sgr....

Your country is truly a pathetic banana republic with so many carrot talk from your coven of witches Polictians...
Don't talk about SGR when yours is hopeless stuck on the ground.We ran 28 trains daily btw our two biggest cities.Dont talk Airlines when your Nigerians Airways was last seen on air before you were born.KQ that you deride makes more than a billion dollars in revenue, has two subsidiaries that fly internationally and is only third in SSA after profit making Ethiopia and loss making SAA. There is nothing Kenya or any country can ever learn from Nigeria except bad manners.Youre the closest to a cursed country in the entire planet...you have wasted 1 trillion dollars of oil.There is absolutely nothing to show for it.You see Kenya pics and you cannot believe that we have zero minerals.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:37pm On Jan 03, 2020
Kenya is not a west african jungle like Ghana.If you're really really interested in facts...about kenya...they are all over.

Our taxes are collected by KRA - Kenya Revenue Authority - they like any kenya public institution make public reports.

Start here for 2018-2019 (last year)

https://www.kra.go.ke/images/publications/Revenue-Performance-Report-2018-19.pdf

Here is a summary because you're too lazy. Last year ORDINARY REVENUES was nearly 16B dollars - growth of 11%. This exclude what we call A-I-A (court fines, licensing fees, service charges, agency fees, et) - total were around 20B dollars.

Revenue collection in FY 2018/19 (July 2018- June 2019) reached
a new record with Kshs. 1.580 Trillion collected, compared to
Kshs. 1.435 Trillion collected in FY 2017/18.
Revenue grew by 11.3% compared to the previous year’s 5.1%
growth. Revenue collected has more than doubled over the last
seven years from Kshs. 0.707 Trillion in FY 2011/12.
The exchequer revenue grew by 11.5% with a collection of
Kshs 1.477 Trillion against Kshs 1.340 Trillion collected in FY
2017/18.
In addition, KRA collected other duties including Agency Fee
amounting to Kshs 103 Billion. This is revenue collected on
behalf of other government agencies mainly at the ports of entry.
They include Railway Development Levy, Traffic Fees, Land Rent
and Cash in Transit amongst other levies.
The FY 2018/19 performance compares well with the prevailing
economic indicators including GDP growth of 6.1%, and

Just30:

grin grin grin grin

lets go

what is Kenya tax revenue ?

let see if you can be truthful

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:38pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
Say the idiots who are on 16th IMF Bailout and are paying 1B dollars excess capacity charge to thermal power plants.The difference btw Ghana and Nigeria is the same power sector wise...one has few power producers running huge thermal generators and billing the country crazy...the other has everyone running their generator and paying 40 cents dollars per unit.Smart countries like Kenya is top 5 world-wide in cheaper renewable energy.As for our debt management we had a long history of prudence in public financial management.
something is wrong with your head

whiles 40% of your people sleep in darkness because they can neither afford to connect themselves to the national grid or buy generators or afford solar, Ghana has managed to connect 95% of the country and creating an overcapacity that will last at least 5 years before we will have to invest in generation capacity again.

whiles the ruling government is complaining about paying for over capacity, it is busily industrialising the country hence creating more demand for power. Now all our companies can run at full capacity


but as usual, Kenya cannot afford to plan ahead because no one will sink money into your hell hole.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:44pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
Don't talk about SGR when yours is hopeless stuck on the ground.We ran 28 trains daily btw our two biggest cities.Dont talk Airlines when your Nigerians Airways was last seen on air before you were born.KQ that you deride makes more than a billion dollars in revenue, has two subsidiaries that fly internationally and is only third in SSA after profit making Ethiopia and loss making SAA. There is nothing Kenya or any country can ever learn from Nigeria except bad manners.Youre the closest to a cursed country in the entire planet...you have wasted 1 trillion dollars of oil.There is absolutely nothing to show for it.You see Kenya pics and you cannot believe that we have zero minerals.
kid shut up

the Chinese do not care because no matter what happen, you'll have to repay the money they give you through any form.
grin grin grin

KQ has never made a profit.
likewise, SGR will never make a profit, especially when it is costlier to transport goods using it

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:45pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
Don't talk about SGR when yours is hopeless stuck on the ground.We ran 28 trains daily btw our two biggest cities.Dont talk Airlines when your Nigerians Airways was last seen on air before you were born.KQ that you deride makes more than a billion dollars in revenue, has two subsidiaries that fly internationally and is only third in SSA after profit making Ethiopia and loss making SAA. There is nothing Kenya or any country can ever learn from Nigeria except bad manners.Youre the closest to a cursed country in the entire planet...you have wasted 1 trillion dollars of oil.There is absolutely nothing to show for it.You see Kenya pics and you cannot believe that we have zero minerals.
even private airlines in Nigeria make profits

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:45pm On Jan 03, 2020
1) Fake GHANA electricity Access.

We already debunked the 95% ( you have 3-4M metered households).For a country of 28M people - assuming 4-5 people per household - you should have nearly 7M metered households. South Africa with 56M have nearly 17M metered customers. Kenya with 47M we have 7M plus metered customers.

2) Over capacity from the most Idiotic or corrupt PPP (Power Purchasing Contracts) ever signed.

How you end up signing up 5,000 MW EXPENSIVE THERMAL GENERATORS when you can barely consume half of that. Now imagine paying 1B dollars to power producers who never gets to do nothing.

That 1B dollars is enough to build you 200Kms of railway every year with rolling stock. You'rebasically flushing down the altantic sea 1B dollars.

There is no surprise why your country is always almost ever on IMF bailout programme. Your country has possibly the worst policy wonks in Africa. Basic projections elude you - I mean even us we had ambition for 15,000MW but we had the sense to stop - before we had to pay for overcapacity.

Just30:
something is wrong with your head

whiles 40% of your people sleep in darkness because they can neither afford to connect themselves to the national grid or buy generators or afford solar, Ghana has managed to connect 95% of the country and creating an overcapacity that will last at least 5 years before we will have to invest in generation capacity again.

whiles the ruling government is complaining about paying for over capacity, it is busily industrialising the country hence creating more demand for power. Now all our companies can run at full capacity


but as usual, Kenya cannot afford to plan ahead because no one will sink money into your hell hole.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:50pm On Jan 03, 2020
KQ is special - 1) It was most successful privatisation of airline in Africa 2) KQ was one of most profitable airline for many years - it has been flying ever since East Africa Airways collapsed into individual country airlines - TZ/UG - never made it like the rest of Africa (Ghana, Nigeria - special cases of incompetence collapsed in 80s)

Airline business is very tough. KQ made some blunders when they purchased oil futures when oil was retailing at 100 dollars a barrel.

When KQ was making profit. Ethiopia Airline was making losses.

KQ is mostly private company - so it cannot compete with national airlines like Ethiopia or Emirates - and we are going to fix that - by nationalizing KQ and giving them JKIA airport.

Kenya SGR is without doubt A SUCCESS - it was completed in record time - and has began operations with tremendous results - passenger services alread voted amongst the most magnificent train rides in the world because we took care of animals & wild lifes. When you compare to similar countries with SGR like Nigeria & Ehiopia - still running 1 or 2 trains - KENYA SGR WITH 28 TRAINS per day[b][/b] - and off to nearly 6M metric tonnes in 2nd year - is PROOF TO KENYA's human capital uniqueness in SSA.

Just30:
kid shut up

the Chinese do not care because no matter what happen, you'll have to repay the money they give you through any form.
grin grin grin

KQ has never made a profit.
likewise, SGR will never make a profit, especially when it is costlier to transport goods using it

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 2:51pm On Jan 03, 2020
Abohboy:



My guy go and find a job and stop replying me remember you are an unemployed Nigerian man who lives in Nigeria but pretends to live outside of Nigeria even though you do not even have enough money

I can see you are a total fool that picture I got it from somebody on nairaland. The guy was complaining about the New tin regulations so I took the picture and open my own trend. The truth of the matter is I got a lot of like
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 2:51pm On Jan 03, 2020
Tanzania

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:54pm On Jan 03, 2020
Just30:
hey dumb dumb

i guess you dont know they have refused to give you any more money to complete the rail.

Typical China, they will sabotage the project in order to lay hands on things that were collateralised

You have studied Chinese foreign policy or you pulled this from where the sun don't shine? Typical Yahoo boy. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:00pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
Don't you think it's rich for you to deal with facts, I mean you won't even know it if it hit your face pwaah.Kenya tax revenue of 12B nigga...like really.

Where did the hobbit get the 12 billion figure from?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 3:02pm On Jan 03, 2020
Where else except when the sun never shines at IMF
gallivant:


Where did the hobbit get the 12 billion figure from?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 3:05pm On Jan 03, 2020
rvp20182:
We are 47m.Our ordinary tax revenue are projected at 17-18B.our Appropriation in Aid at 3-4B.Total 21B.The rest we will borrow prudently.China as creditor is not as cruel as your daddy the IMF who literally runs Ghana.China are really chilled out and I'd bet if we were to be hard pressed they'd give us more time to repay.They have way too much money unlike the broke IMF.
Kenyan sometimes I think you people are at fault on this trend. Kenya is far in front off Nigeria but what you Kenyans are doing you are competing yourself with Nigeria when Nigeria is under below Zimbabwe and Cameroon in every aspect. So what you Kenyans are trying to do is like a man going to a tree and arguing with the tree shouting at the tree that he is better off than the tree. Only thing will happen when the wind blows the tree branches and leaves begin to make noise that is how this whole situation looks like

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:07pm On Jan 03, 2020
Kazikazi:
Tanzania

You forgot to post Kilimanjaro and Ngorongoro crater again kazikazi. smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 3:07pm On Jan 03, 2020
Tanznia

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 3:08pm On Jan 03, 2020
That is why we got tired with Nigeria and started on Ghana.
SUFFERInSMILIIN:

Kenyan sometimes I think you people are at fault on this trend. Kenya is far in front off Nigeria but what you Kenyans are doing you are competing yourself with Nigeria when Nigeria is under below Zimbabwe and Cameroon in every aspect. So what you Kenyans are trying to do is like a man going to a tree and arguing with the tree shouting at the tree that he is better off than the tree. Only thing will happen when the wind blows the tree branches and leaves begin to make noise that is how this whole situation looks like

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:11pm On Jan 03, 2020
Kazikazi:
Tanznia

Right on que. smiley

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