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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:16am On Jan 03, 2020
Solskjær: "He’s [Greenwood] grown a lot, physically and mentally robust, you expect from an 18-year-old. He’s had 12 months with us now, he’s grown in confidence and performance, he’s done well, he’s played a lot of league games and done well."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:17am On Jan 03, 2020
Solskjær: “We’ve had a couple of youngsters doing well. Jimmy [Garner], Dylan [Levitt] but they’ve been injured and ill so they’ve lost quite a bit of football lately. They’re just getting back and I think we’ll see Jimmy on Monday in the Reserves.”
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 11:37am On Jan 03, 2020
Oasis007:
Solskjær: "Here we go again, FA Cup third round and you’re talking about Paul [Pogba] again. Paul came back after a long spell out, two games, couldn’t go to Burnley, felt his ankle was sore, we did a scan and it’s not the same injury, it’s a different injury."
Mans now getting frustrated.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 11:39am On Jan 03, 2020
Oasis007:
Solskjær: "Sergio [Romero] will play tomorrow because he’s always done well when called upon. Mason [Greenwood] will just continue until he’s a regular."
key the here??

Abeg De gea should also catch cold in our next PL matches make for still try Romero.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by maik99(m): 12:05pm On Jan 03, 2020
weedtaker:
KDB for wetin? he doesn't score enough to be the best in the PL.

It does not have to be about goals abeg
Ronaldinho was not a mercurial goalscorer both got the ballon d'or back to back
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 12:05pm On Jan 03, 2020
Roland17:
Afrodoc2 abeg do not prescribe any medication(s), including agbo jedi for anyone and please for the sake of MessiLingoz do not perform any kind of procedure on your patients or anyone for that matter during this period of wailing!

Come out and accept your L from Peperempe like a man!
lol...ur mad! grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamharkinwaley: 12:57pm On Jan 03, 2020
Oasis007:
Solskjær on player availability vs Wolves: "Paul is out, Axel, Eric, Tim are getting closer but won’t be ready for this, Rojo won’t be ready for this. There are a couple of niggles, well not niggles, illnesses and colds, which is normal for this time."


We're f^ucked !!! angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 1:07pm On Jan 03, 2020
Martial and Lingard left Carrington 15 minutes after arriving today.

- Mirror
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 1:07pm On Jan 03, 2020
Chris Smalling has agreed to join AS Roma on a permanent basis. A deal is likely to be concluded for €15m.

- GDS
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 1:27pm On Jan 03, 2020
elampiro:


Hendeson, Febinho and Keita have only contributed 3 goals and 4 Assist in the EPL despite having such team mates as Salah and Mane.

Only McTominay has three goals to tally those three Liverpool midfielder of yours.

So goals scored by midfielders are what determines creativity in the middle of the pitch. cool

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 1:35pm On Jan 03, 2020
Oasis007:
Solskjær on player availability vs Wolves: "Paul is out, Axel, Eric, Tim are getting closer but won’t be ready for this, Rojo won’t be ready for this. There are a couple of niggles, well not niggles, illnesses and colds, which is normal for this time."
All these uncertainties and yet, they are still not raiding the transfer market to reinforce the team. Tragic!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 1:54pm On Jan 03, 2020
Lana1:
All these uncertainties and yet, they are still not raiding the transfer market to reinforce the team. Tragic!!

At least for 2 midfielders or 1CM and 1RW.

If Fred gets injured we would be truly fvcked. Someone that we are managing and just happy that he has improved, but still not United standard.

Chai...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 2:10pm On Jan 03, 2020
Martial and Lingard are ill and will miss tomorrow’s game against Wolves.

- Guardian
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Prectega(m): 2:14pm On Jan 03, 2020
Oasis007:
Martial and Lingard are ill and will miss tomorrow’s game against Wolves.

- Guardian

Jesus
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:24pm On Jan 03, 2020
Any other manager and he'd be sounding out to the board to make some signings in the face of the injury crisis rocking the club but not Ole, him boy boy is just too annoying.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 2:49pm On Jan 03, 2020
Solskjær on January transfers: "We’re still looking and as I’ve said so many times we have our targets if they become available and if it’s something we want to do and the right ones aren’t there, then they aren’t."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:50pm On Jan 03, 2020
patrickmuf:
Please stop it already. With Trent Alexander Arnold and Robertson joining the attack, Liverpool have a front 5. What this means is that Firmino can easily drop a little deep whilst Mane and Salah find their way to the box.

The midfielders you think aren't creative are excellent ball carriers, they drive with the ball at top speed into the opposition's half taking out one or two players in the process. Henderson is also there with his excellent long passes (Up through as gamers will say). In our set up, only Pogba is better than Henderson when it comes to those cross field balls and through passes. This season, against Everton, Henderson created at least 3 clear cut chances releasing Mane through on goal vs Pickford with just a ball over the top. What else is creativity? Wijnaldum beating his marker with pace and power whilst driving forward before releasing the ball to the overlapping Robertson is also creativity. You make the mistake of thinking creativity is when someone releases the ball to an attacker through on goal.
I don't even want to talk about Van Dijk and his epic long diagonals from defence, that is a huge weapon there. Wolves also have Coady who is adept at those devastating long passes, which was handy against City.

In all, Liverpool have creative players from Allison whose kicking is 90% of the time pinpoint accurate to Van Dijk to their overlapping fullbacks to Henderson to runners like Wijnaldum/Chamberlain/Keita to their front 3...It's a functional unit and not just their front 3.

First what you have confirmed is that a coach based his team creativity of the creative players in his team. If you have full backs that are creative and your midfielders are less creative, then the full backs can go all out while the less creative players stay to block. That is what Liverpool does. Every teams knows its strength. This is why Bissaka will be less forward going that Willians when they both mature. You guys should understand this.

As for creativity in midfield, those Liverpool midfielders are ordinary or even worse than ours. When you play a long ball to Messi he will control it. Play same long ball to Lingard or James, he will lose it. So foget about Henderson long balls. Salah is there to control them

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 2:58pm On Jan 03, 2020
Oasis007:
Solskjær on January transfers: "We’re still looking and as I’ve said so many times we have our targets if they become available and if it’s something we want to do and the right ones aren’t there, then they aren’t."

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:07pm On Jan 03, 2020
patrickmuf:
Has Fred Pogba and McTominay played together since Fred rediscovered himself and McTominay stepped up?

McTominay is our best player this season. He might not have a leg over, but he does the best work in the midfield. Hardly any midfield has dominated him
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:09pm On Jan 03, 2020
odizeey:

Because them no dey count leg over and do stylish things na.
Una gats come to the understanding say world-class no be by leg over and flash.

McTominay doesn't do leg over. He is the most business like midfielder out there
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:28pm On Jan 03, 2020
CAPdan21:

Being a big fish in a very small pond does not make McTom better than any of these...abi is it mane or salah that u want them to be comparing rating with

How the players ranked generally in all department. Tell me where you think Liverpool is obviously superior?

Midfield
Keita 7.16.............................................. (started only two games)
McTominay 7.15
Pogba 7.09
Febinho 7.06
Hendenson 7.01
Fred 6.89
Matic 6.76

Chamberlain 6.58
Milner 6.52

Forwards
Mane 7.62
Salah 7.36
Ferminho 7.29
Rashford 7.28
Martial 7.22
James 6.81


Defence
Matip 7.52
Trent 7.42
Dejan 7.22
Robertson 7.21
Bissaka 7.12
Maguire 7.01
Dalot 6.86........................................(one game so far)
Young 6.76
William 6.63
Lindelof 6.60

Shaw 6.63

Goalkeeper
Allison 6.6
DDG 6.4
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:36pm On Jan 03, 2020
We are better than Liverpool in just one department which is midfield. It is in the other departments they are far better than us.

Remember that whoscored use over 200 stats (every player all round contribution is captured) even the ones we cannot see when we watch a match.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 3:36pm On Jan 03, 2020
Dis CAPdan never know wetin him enter arguing with elamps grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 3:37pm On Jan 03, 2020
Arguing with black and blue ink you go fear na grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 3:37pm On Jan 03, 2020
elampiro:


How the players ranked generally in all department. Tell me where you think Liverpool is obviously superior?

Midfield
Keita 7.16.............................................. (started only two games)
McTominay 7.15
Pogba 7.09
Febinho 7.06
Hendenson 7.01
Fred 6.89
Matic 6.76

Chamberlain 6.58
Milner 6.52

Forwards
Mane 7.62
Salah 7.36
Ferminho 7.29
Rashford 7.28
Martial 7.22
James 6.81


Defence
Matip 7.52
Trent 7.42
Dejan 7.22
Robertson 7.21
Bissaka 7.12
Maguire 7.01
Dalot 6.86........................................(one game so far)
Young 6.76
William 6.63
Lindelof 6.60

Shaw 6.63

Goalkeeper
Allison 6.6
DDG 6.4
bros you actually right I keep telling people the only thing those LFC midfielders do is to press no creativity at all.
That's why any time they are struggling to get goals klopp will bring in keita the only creative midfielder he have, Henderson is just one lucky motherfvcker that doesn't deserve to be a footballer.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obainojazz(m): 3:40pm On Jan 03, 2020
iamoyindamola:
bros you actually right I keep telling people the only thing those LFC midfielders do is to press no creativity at all.
That's why any time they are struggling to get goals klopp will bring in keita the only creative midfielder he have, Henderson is just one lucky motherfvcker that doesn't deserve to be a footballer.
Wrong... Liverpool players are able to move the ball to the final third... I'm not sure I've seen Fred run with the ball for two metres sef... No be by Debryune type of passes.. Even man city midfielders move with the ball
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 3:42pm On Jan 03, 2020
iamoyindamola:

That's why Henderson is just one lucky motherfvcker that doesn't deserve to be a footballer.
lol, dis is just wrong!

he's the skipper of a team that just won the CL, starting player for that matter, he's very much underrated.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 3:44pm On Jan 03, 2020
obainojazz:
Wrong... Liverpool players are able to move the ball to the final third... I'm not sure I've seen Fred run with the ball for two metres sef... No be by Debryune type of passes.. Even man city midfielders move with the ball
lol you the watch Fred seff?

Man can run with the ball, McSauce is the master at dis.

Fred plays as our DM so he's not licensed to run around with ball and still why run with the ball when you have the passing ability to release the ball making the transition quicker?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 3:49pm On Jan 03, 2020
obainojazz:
Wrong... Liverpool players are able to move the ball to the final third... I'm not sure I've seen Fred run with the ball for two metres sef... No be by Debryune type of passes.. Even man city midfielders move with the ball
Lie these guys can't pass or score. When you say move ball forward we can all see what happened when they played against United or Chelsea and city they struggled once the midfield get the ball they return it to the defence and from there to the attackers.
Against man utd they couldn't create anything because man utd allowed the midfielders to have the ball blocking the wings and full backs
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:49pm On Jan 03, 2020
airmark:


So goals scored by midfielders are what determines creativity in the middle of the pitch. cool

Creativity

Chances created per minutes played
Pogba 32.6
Keita 49.3
Fred 54.9
Ferbinho 77.4
Henderson 79.6
Milner 83
McTominay 97

However among all of them, McTominay is most likely to score a goal
When it comes to Tackles, 1.Keita, 2.Febinho and 3.Henderson are all slightly ahead of McTominay who is united best in that aspect.
On interception, Keita and Fred are the best. Pogba is desperately poor in interception.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bisoye11(m): 3:50pm On Jan 03, 2020
So ed is not ready to sign any player when we mostly need an additions.we are in deep trouble, if the board see no reason to sign player.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:52pm On Jan 03, 2020
obainojazz:
Wrong... Liverpool players are able to move the ball to the final third... I'm not sure I've seen Fred run with the ball for two metres sef... No be by Debryune type of passes.. Even man city midfielders move with the ball

All these are part of what the stats measured scientifically. But with naked eyes, I McTominay runs with the ball and Pogba does that too even though lazily.

However, I did not know Xavi, Scholes, Pirlo running with the ball. If na Ramires we fit agree

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