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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:03pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: If according to you these nations are not Semitic & Arab today (Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria) Who killed off these "black Semites and Ishmaelites" in the middle east? who are the present occupants of the middle east? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:04pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: And the point you were trying to make? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 7:06pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:Abeg don't mention me again if you can't be logical. I can hardly comprehend what you are saying here. You obviously haven't read the scripture I shared earlier Acts 8vs27 if you had, you'd have realized the encounter didn't happen in Ethiopia and it was his quest for knowledge that led to the conversion eventually. If the vessel was not ready the master wouldn't have been willing to send someone to fill it. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 7:07pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel:But who deceived you that olive skin isn't brown skin Wait is it the white people ![]() The sun is quite a beauty isn't it, what it does to the human skin |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:13pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: Where did I say Olive skin and white skin is the same thing? Dude, what I want to understand is how olive skin translates to Hebrews being Negroes (blacks) Abeg, google olive skin types in the middle east and the Mediterranean and tell me if what you see looks like a Negro 1 Like |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 7:15pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
ZiriMane: You mentioned a scripture of a man with scripture. Did I object? What's now your issue mr man. Logic is sticking to the conversation of how did they get religion abi scripture. Somehow u convince yourself that I am not being logical because I'm focusing on what I asked u "how did they get the religion" of which I stated "people" of which u mentioned missionaries. Right? Pls, don't amuse urself that by falsely accusing me u have made urself logical in anyway. Take ur time, don't get emotionally n reread everything from scratch. Ok Either u agree or disagree, but dont you make the mistake again n I think u know me. Stick to the conversation n not personal observations. I beg u now. Thank u |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 7:16pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel:Ya, did u read the link I sent you mr man |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:18pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: No vex, please put the link here for me. Another thing, please google olive skin types in the middle east and Mediterranean, let's see how that translates to Negro |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:20pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
https://jewishjournal.com/cover_story/295918/were-jews-were-not-white-we-define-ourselves/ Blueangel444, what skin complexion do you see in there? Olive or white?
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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:25pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
This would have saved a lot of back and forth walahi...
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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 8:03pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: Those white faces are what ![]() ![]() |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 8:05pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: BlueAngel444: |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:13pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: Tried that link, my ISP isn’t granting me access. Post screenshots here please By the way, is it any different from the definition of Negro I posted some hours ago with khia in cc? OkCornel: https://www.nairaland.com/5602139/black-people-really-hebrews/12#85463746 |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:13pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: Humans like you and I. Are those olive skinned people or white people? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 8:35pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: I never mentioned anything about Arabia. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 8:40pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: They are of the view that:>>>> The word negro is Spanish for black. The Spanish language comes from Latin, which has its origins in Classical Greek. The word negro, in Greek, is derived from the root word necro, meaning dead. What was once referred to as a physical condition is now regarded as an appropriate state of mind for millions of Africans. The Greeks came to Africa as students to sit at the feet of the masters, and to discover what Africans already knew. In any student / teacher relationship the teacher can only teach as much as the student is capable of understanding. Egyptians, like other Africans, understood that life existed beyond the grave. Ancestral worship is a way of acknowledging the lives of the people who have come before you, and their ability to offer guidance and direction to the living. Temples were designed as places where the ancestors could be honored and holidays (Holy Days) where the ancestors could be honored, and holidays (Holy Days) were the days designated to do so. The Egyptians had hundreds of temples and hundreds of Holy Days to worship their ancestors. The Greeks thought the Africans had a preoccupation with death. The act of ancestral worship became known as necromancy or communication with the dead. The root word necro means dead. Another word for necromancy is magic - that Old Black Magic which was practiced in Ancient Africa. When the Greeks returned to Europe, they took their distorted beliefs with them and the word negro evolved out of this great misunderstanding. Less than 300 years after the first Greeks came to Egypt as students, their descendants returned as conquerors. They destroyed the cities, temples and libraries of the Egyptians and claimed African knowledge as their own. Not only was the African legacy stolen, but also the wholesale theft of African people soon followed. With the birth of the slave trade, it became necessary to dehumanize Africans and devalue their historical worth as a people in order to ensure their value as slaves. So there you have it, the negro - a race of dead people with a dead history and no hope for resurrection as long as they remained ignorant of their past. This was a triple death - the death of the mind, body, and spirit of the African people. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 8:42pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
khia:Arabia is what they now call middle east |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:49pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: Sorry, what then is your understanding of the meaning of the word Negro. It no longer means black but something else? Just want to clarify, because the word Negro was coined by the Spanish & Portuguese with reference to the black people of Sub-saharan Africa. Is the write up above disputing that to imply Negro means something else and not black? Thank you |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 8:50pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
the ancient Egyptians were the descendants of Noah's son, Khawm, or Ham in English. Khawm means black, hot and burnt. The ancient Egyptians of biblical times called their land and themselves Khemet, which in their tongue means "THE LAND OF BLACKS." The word Khemet is nothing but a variation on the word Khawm in the language of ancient Egypt. In Psalm 78:51, Egypt is called "The House of Khawm (Ham)." "...AND SMOTE ALL THE FIRSTBORN IN EGYPT; THE TABERNACLES OF KHAWM (Ham)." Psalm 105:23, calls Egypt the land of Khawm (Ham), "ISRAEL ALSO CAME INTO EGYPT; AND SOJOURNED IN THE LAND OF KHAWM (Ham)." Verse 27 "THEY SHOWED HIS SIGNS AMONG THEM, AND WONDERS IN THE LAND OF KHAWM (Ham)." The Bible calls Egypt the land of Khawm, and remember one of the meanings of Khawm is black Waiting for those who call themselves christians who claim to read the bible should come and say the bible is lying and Egyptians were not black |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:52pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: BlueAngel444: BlueAngel444: Bros, you earlier mentioned Semites dwelt with the Hamites, and Japheth would extend far and wide. Please how are the Semites and Arabians in the Middle East today not blacks? Did they also interbreed enmasse with the descendants of Japheth? Has this matter been swept under the carpet? Hmmm |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 8:56pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: You claimed u read history, in that post I showed their opinion of the derivation of their terminology. Except someone can show me whenever those whites ever had respect for the Africans. Is like someone slapped u by mispronouncing your moniker n called you Ocunny n u acting like it nothing joor. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 8:58pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: Read those posts n read your question Now swallow back the vomit again like before As you keep playing dumb, it suits you ![]() Guy atleast have fear of God na, u cut cut my post, join am like tailor just to create your question. Na wa u oh. ![]() |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:03pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: So taking off from where we left. The Shemites intermingled with the Hamites...whilst Japheth went far and wide to God knows where... If the Shemites and Hamites have been co-existing, why are the Semitic races in the Middle East not blacks today? |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:07pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
Anyone who is really serious with Jewish History can go through the work of Josephus Flavius "Antiquity of the Jews". Josephus Flavius was a first century Jewish historian. Chapter 5 and 6 shows how the nations were formed from Noah's sons. Let's start with Shem; Antiquity of the Jews - Chapter 6 Shem, the third son of Noah, had five sons, who inhabited the land that began at Euphrates, and reached to the Indian Ocean. For Elam left behind him the Elamites, the ancestors of the Persians. Ashur lived at the city Nineve; and named his subjects Assyrians, who became the most fortunate nation, beyond others. Arphaxad named the Arphaxadites, who are now called Chaldeans. Aram had the Aramites, which the Greeks called Syrians; as Laud founded the Laudites, which are now called Lydians. Of the four sons of Aram, Uz founded Trachonitis and Damascus: this country lies between Palestine and Celesyria. Ul founded Armenia; and Gather the Bactrians; and Mesa the Mesaneans; it is now called Charax Spasini. Sala was the son of Arphaxad; and his son was Heber, from whom they originally called the Jews Hebrews. Heber begat Joetan and Phaleg: he was called Phaleg, because he was born at the dispersion of the nations to their several countries; for Phaleg among the Hebrews signifies division. Now Joctan, one of the sons of Heber, had these sons, Elmodad, Saleph, Asermoth, Jera, Adoram, Aizel, Decla, Ebal, Abimael, Sabeus, Ophir, Euilat, and Jobab. These inhabited from Cophen, an Indian river, and in part of Asia adjoining to it. And this shall suffice concerning the sons of Shem. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 9:09pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: Who are you asking ![]() When people were trying to tell you, you were laughing.. Why are you now asking? And why do you think you would get an answer ![]() You had the time to find the answer to this question but you spent it laughing, ah bro there is no help for you from me o. But you know maybe they faded under the sun ![]() |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 9:09pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
englishmart: The hebrew language is an extinct language Oga. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:11pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: Smh, if Shem and Ham were blacks, how did the entire land stretch from the Euphrates to the Indian Ocean filled with Shem's descendants change from black to what we are seeing today na? ![]() Abi the sons of Japheth also mingled with them ni? ![]() |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 9:12pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: Arabians are black, brown and red in colour |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 9:14pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: So all this nonsense you just comfortable shared na... Shows what? That the antique paintings found in Elam are not black or what ![]() Did I see India there, oh so that picture you posted where the Indian was a shade of what, white abi? Just dey there they tell yourself wetin you dey tell yourself |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 9:15pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
OkCornel: Most Egyptians today are still brown or black. Egyptians are among the Nilitic (people of the nile), they are mostly black people, read up about dem. Secondly, there was both european and more recently arab conquest of north Africa that lasted several centuries and that brought in red and fair people into africa. |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by BlueAngel444: 9:16pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
PrecisionFx: Leave that guy, Arabs are cream and milk. He will soon quote the land flowing with milk (you know white milk) and forget to type honey or start arguing that honey is a shade of olive ![]() ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:17pm On Jan 03, 2020 |
PrecisionFx: Like the ones below right? The middle eastern guy there is black isn't he? ![]()
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