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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 3:31pm On Jan 03, 2020
Timbuktuo:


Trump will be re-elected with or without any conflict. In fact, I’d say he stands a greater risk of losing the election if he gets involved in any silly skirmishes.

It is my opinion that you are ignorant of American politics

Does it sound Familiar?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by A40(m): 3:36pm On Jan 03, 2020
coluka:

*Trump takes out Iranian terrorist general with a surgical drone strike, zero collateral loss of life*

Liberal dumbos: ORANGE MAN WANTS WAR!

Shut up you Trump worshipping Muppet. I'm not a liberal. Just against actions that can lead to another war in the Middle East and other regions that would cost more lives again

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 3:51pm On Jan 03, 2020
MrPrsdent:
On the killing of the Iranian General :

Impeachment and election politics by Trump.

Usual republican tactics while approaching tricky presidential elections: Try to start a war and rally the country behind you. Before you know it election is won while lives of American soldiers are sacrificed on the altar of politics.

When he tore up the Iran nuclear deal,i told friends that he will start a war with Iran closer to the election .

You know better. The IRGC is a terrorist organization. It’s commander is an authorized target under the current AUMF and responsible for ordering attacks that killed Americans. Qasem Soleimani was a terrorist directly responsible for the murder of over 500 US service men & women, he set up the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, carried out a rocket attack on a compound that housed some 100 US personnel. A civilian Department of Defense contractor was killed.

What would you prefer? Have him continue his attacks and not respond?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 4:08pm On Jan 03, 2020
A40:
Shut up you Trump worshipping Muppet. I'm not a liberal. Just against actions that can lead to another war in the Middle East and other regions that would cost more lives again
Dear Liberal dumbo,
This is what happens when a mind is parasitized by a cocktail of idea pathogens. Please take your medication at the prescribed intervals for a cure to your grotesque inability to think.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 4:38pm On Jan 03, 2020
happney65:


Does it sound Familiar?

When will you arrive at your point?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kopfschmerzens: 4:45pm On Jan 03, 2020
coluka:

Dear Liberal dumbo,
This is what happens when a mind is parasitized by a cocktail of idea pathogens. Please take your medication at the prescribed intervals for a cure to your grotesque inability to think.

The mix message from the department of state, Baghdad consulate and Pompeo just confirm all the clusterfuckery that characterized that senseless decision by your tin god.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:31pm On Jan 03, 2020
Kopfschmerzens:


The mix message from the department of state, Baghdad consulate and Pompeo just confirm all the clusterfuckery that characterized that senseless decision by your tin god.
Like I asked someone earlier, The IRGC is a terrorist organization. It’s commander is an authorized target under the current AUMF and responsible for ordering attacks that killed Americans. Qasem Soleimani was a terrorist directly responsible for the murder of over 500 US service men & women, he set up the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, carried out a rocket attack on a compound that housed some 100 US personnel. A civilian Department of Defense contractor was killed.

What would you prefer? Have him continue his attacks and not respond?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:42pm On Jan 03, 2020
Dear Iranian Nation!
Years of sincere, brave efforts fighting
against the devils& villainous in the
world & yrs of wishing for martyrdom
on the path of God finally took the dear
Commander of Islam, Soleimani, to this
lofty status. His blood was shed by the
most barbaric of men./1
— Khamenei.ir (@khamenei_ir) January
3, 2020

His efforts & path won’t be stopped by
his martyrdom, by God’s Power, rather
a #SevereRevenge awaits the criminals
who have stained their hands with his
& the other martyrs’ blood last night.
Martyr Soleimani is an Intl figure of
Resistance & all such people will seek
revenge. /3
— Khamenei.ir (@khamenei_ir) January
3, 2020



The Iranian Supreme leader explains what exactly the Iranians are doing and what they are after It's a religious war to them.
Former Commander in Chief of IRGC:
"Gen. Qasem Sulaimani joined his
martyred brothers. But we will take a
very strong revenge on America." #Iran
#Iraq https:///A6VpTYgkJE
— Farnaz Fassihi (@farnazfassihi)
January 3, 2020
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 6:27pm On Jan 03, 2020
coluka:

Like I asked someone earlier, The IRGC is a terrorist organization. It’s commander is an authorized target under the current AUMF and responsible for ordering attacks that killed Americans. Qasem Soleimani was a terrorist directly responsible for the murder of over 500 US service men & women, he set up the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, carried out a rocket attack on a compound that housed some 100 US personnel. A civilian Department of Defense contractor was killed.

What would you prefer? Have him continue his attacks and not respond?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 6:39pm On Jan 03, 2020
Exclusive: Unredacted Ukraine Documents Reveal Extent of Pentagon’s Legal Concerns

https://www.justsecurity.org/67863/exclusive-unredacted-ukraine-documents-reveal-extent-of-pentagons-legal-concerns/

“Clear direction from POTUS to continue to hold.”

This is what Michael Duffey, associate director of national security programs at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), told Elaine McCusker, the acting Pentagon comptroller, in an Aug. 30 email, which has only been made available in redacted form until now. It is one of many documents the Trump administration is trying to keep from the public, despite congressional oversight efforts and court orders in Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) litigation.

Earlier in the day on Aug. 30, President Donald Trump met with Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to discuss the president’s hold on $391 million in military assistance for Ukraine. Inside the Trump administration, panic was reaching fever pitch about the president’s funding hold, which had stretched on for two months. Days earlier, POLITICO had broken the story and questions were starting to pile up. U.S. defense contractors were worried about delayed contracts and officials in Kyiv and lawmakers on Capitol Hill wanted to know what on earth was going on. While Trump’s national security team thought withholding the money went against U.S. national security interests, Trump still wouldn’t budge.

Thanks to the testimony of several Trump administration officials, we now know what Trump was waiting on: a commitment from Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden.

But getting at that truth hasn’t been easy and the Trump administration continues to try to obscure it. It is blocking key officials from testifying and is keeping documentary evidence from lawmakers investigating the Ukraine story. For example, this note from Duffey to McCusker was never turned over to House investigators and the Trump administration is continuing to try to keep it secret.

Last month, a court ordered the government to release almost 300 pages of emails to the Center for Public Integrity in response to a FOIA lawsuit. It released a first batch on Dec. 12, and then a second installment on Dec. 20, including Duffey’s email, but that document, along with several others, were partially or completely blacked out.

Since then, Just Security has viewed unredacted copies of these emails, which begin in June and end in early October. Together, they tell the behind-the-scenes story of the defense and budget officials who had to carry out the president’s unexplained hold on military aid to Ukraine.

The documents reveal growing concern from Pentagon officials that the hold would violate the Impoundment Control Act, which requires the executive branch to spend money as appropriated by Congress, and that the necessary steps to avoid this result weren’t being taken. Those steps would include notifying Congress that the funding was being held or shifted elsewhere, a step that was never taken. The emails also show that no rationale was ever given for why the hold was put in place or why it was eventually lifted.

What is clear is that it all came down to the president and what he wanted; no one else appears to have supported his position. Although the pretext for the hold was that some sort of policy review was taking place, the emails make no mention of that actually happening. Instead, officials were anxiously waiting for the president to be convinced that the hold was a bad idea. And while the situation continued throughout the summer, senior defense officials were searching for legal guidance, worried they would be blamed should the hold be lifted too late to actually spend all of the money, which would violate the law.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 7:42pm On Jan 03, 2020
The absolute state of liberals. Really pitiful

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 7:44pm On Jan 03, 2020
The DHS needs to look into so-called Americans who are content with an attack on US territory but not with a retaliation on the masterminds of the attack.

Imagine hating Trump so much and siding with terrorists. Liberalism is truly a mental problem

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kopfschmerzens: 7:48pm On Jan 03, 2020
Timbuktuo:
The DHS needs to look into so-called Americans who are content with an attack on US territory but not with a retaliation on the masterminds of the attack.

Imagine hating Trump so much and aiding with terrorists. Liberalism is truly a mental problem

Wow!!! So you suddenly love America, what a nonsense two face liar. Ain't you the same Russia/Putin ass licking idiot. Please do us a fav and GTFOH clown.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 7:53pm On Jan 03, 2020
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 7:54pm On Jan 03, 2020
Kopfschmerze:


Wow!!! So you suddenly love America, what a nonsense two face liar. Ain't you the same Russia/Putin ass licking idiot. Please do us a fav and GTFOH clown.

Some people brought mental illness into new year. Mods, please, address this nonsense appropriately. Thanks

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 7:57pm On Jan 03, 2020
Democrats: Killing terrorists who are attacking Americans will make terrorists attack Americans.

When a Democrat speaks this is what they look like:

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 8:07pm On Jan 03, 2020
Read about Qasem Soleimani’s involvement in the Benghazi fiasco that saw the death of Ambassador Stevens and other Americans.

https://nypost.com/2014/06/20/how-irans-spy-chief-paid-for-the-benghazi-attack/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 8:15pm On Jan 03, 2020
But leftist idiots in the Us are weeping more than the bereaved because they have programmed to hate anything Trump does. Zombies

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 9:43pm On Jan 03, 2020
Trump made another right decision again.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:04am On Jan 04, 2020
After the attack on the embassy maybe Trump should have gone on an apology tour to beg for mercy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by somtookeke(m): 4:13am On Jan 04, 2020
Cardi B threatens to file for Nigerian citizenship after Donald Trump’s ‘dumbest move’ to date
https://speakersden2..com/2020/01/cardi-b-threatens-to-file-for-nigerian.html

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Chrisbeks: 6:54am On Jan 04, 2020
somtookeke:

Cardi B threatens to file for Nigerian citizenship after Donald Trump’s ‘dumbest move’ to date
https://speakersden2..com/2020/01/cardi-b-threatens-to-file-for-nigerian.html
She's a big fool

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Chrisbeks: 6:59am On Jan 04, 2020
raumdeuter:
After the attack on the embassy maybe Trump should have gone on an apology tour to beg for mercy
That's what the foolish liberals want.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 7:07am On Jan 04, 2020
[quote author=TheShopKeeper post=85472892][/quote]
None of you is answering my question, I ask again,

The IRGC is a terrorist organization. It’s commander is an authorized target under the current AUMF and responsible for ordering attacks that killed Americans. Qasem Soleimani was a terrorist directly responsible for the murder of over 600 US service men & women, he set up the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, carried out a rocket attack on a compound that housed some 100 US personnel. A civilian Department of Defense contractor was killed.

What would you prefer? Have him continue his attacks and not respond?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 7:11am On Jan 04, 2020
Timbuktuo:
The DHS needs to look into so-called Americans who are content with an attack on US territory but not with a retaliation on the masterminds of the attack.

Imagine hating Trump so much and siding with terrorists. Liberalism is truly a mental problem

Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder, if hitler were alive today and Trump attacked him, these crazy liberals will support hitler against their own country, TDS has driven them mad.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 7:46am On Jan 04, 2020
Timbuktuo:
The absolute state of liberals. Really pitiful
Really pitiful indeed, very pathetic!! liberals have completely lost it. Imagine a US citizen tweeting this nonsense

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:24am On Jan 04, 2020
Trump has eliminated the following terrorists since late October:

- Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
- Abu Hassan al-Muhajir
- Qasem Soleimani
- Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis

Osama Bin Laden's son, Hamza, was also killed sometime between 2017 and 2019.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:28am On Jan 04, 2020
That many cowardly Democrats have somehow managed to find fault with the killing of a savage terrorist with American blood on his hands is totally unsurprising. This broken, shit-show of a Party has also defended:
-Kim Jong Un
-MS-13
-Infanticide
-Open Borders & more

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 9:49am On Jan 04, 2020
coluka:


Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder, if hitler were alive today and Trump attacked him, these crazy liberals will support hitler against their own country, TDS has driven them mad.

Exactly. If Trump came out today and said oxygen is so good, these fools would asphyxiate just to spite him. It’s beyond ridiculous at this point

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 9:52am On Jan 04, 2020
coluka:

Really pitiful indeed, very pathetic!! liberals have completely lost it. Imagine a US citizen tweeting this nonsense

Didn’t you see Iranians telling her to shut her piehole? The truth is liberals have been PROPERLY programmed to oppose whatever Trump does. Imagine these pansies blaming Trump for retaliating after American lives and territory were attacked vandalized and killed

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 10:16am On Jan 04, 2020
coluka:

Really pitiful indeed, very pathetic!! liberals have completely lost it. Imagine a US citizen tweeting this nonsense
Does she even have the slightest concept of what a real terrorist regime like Iran is like? Where women are locked up for not wearing their head covering and where gay people get tossed from the roof? Not to mention if you dare protest, you can get killed as 1500 Iranian folks were killed a month ago by Soleimani and his crew? That’s what a real terrorist regime looks like, not all these malaria fever induced dreams of Orange Man Bad that liberals have all the time

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 11:09am On Jan 04, 2020
TheShopKeeper:
Exclusive: Unredacted Ukraine Documents Reveal Extent of Pentagon’s Legal Concerns

https://www.justsecurity.org/67863/exclusive-unredacted-ukraine-documents-reveal-extent-of-pentagons-legal-concerns/

“Clear direction from POTUS to continue to hold.”

This is what Michael Duffey, associate director of national security programs at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), told Elaine McCusker, the acting Pentagon comptroller, in an Aug. 30 email, which has only been made available in redacted form until now. It is one of many documents the Trump administration is trying to keep from the public, despite congressional oversight efforts and court orders in Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) litigation.

Earlier in the day on Aug. 30, President Donald Trump met with Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to discuss the president’s hold on $391 million in military assistance for Ukraine. Inside the Trump administration, panic was reaching fever pitch about the president’s funding hold, which had stretched on for two months. Days earlier, POLITICO had broken the story and questions were starting to pile up. U.S. defense contractors were worried about delayed contracts and officials in Kyiv and lawmakers on Capitol Hill wanted to know what on earth was going on. While Trump’s national security team thought withholding the money went against U.S. national security interests, Trump still wouldn’t budge.

Thanks to the testimony of several Trump administration officials, we now know what Trump was waiting on: a commitment from Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden.

But getting at that truth hasn’t been easy and the Trump administration continues to try to obscure it. It is blocking key officials from testifying and is keeping documentary evidence from lawmakers investigating the Ukraine story. For example, this note from Duffey to McCusker was never turned over to House investigators and the Trump administration is continuing to try to keep it secret.

Last month, a court ordered the government to release almost 300 pages of emails to the Center for Public Integrity in response to a FOIA lawsuit. It released a first batch on Dec. 12, and then a second installment on Dec. 20, including Duffey’s email, but that document, along with several others, were partially or completely blacked out.

Since then, Just Security has viewed unredacted copies of these emails, which begin in June and end in early October. Together, they tell the behind-the-scenes story of the defense and budget officials who had to carry out the president’s unexplained hold on military aid to Ukraine.

The documents reveal growing concern from Pentagon officials that the hold would violate the Impoundment Control Act, which requires the executive branch to spend money as appropriated by Congress, and that the necessary steps to avoid this result weren’t being taken. Those steps would include notifying Congress that the funding was being held or shifted elsewhere, a step that was never taken. The emails also show that no rationale was ever given for why the hold was put in place or why it was eventually lifted.

What is clear is that it all came down to the president and what he wanted; no one else appears to have supported his position. Although the pretext for the hold was that some sort of policy review was taking place, the emails make no mention of that actually happening. Instead, officials were anxiously waiting for the president to be convinced that the hold was a bad idea. And while the situation continued throughout the summer, senior defense officials were searching for legal guidance, worried they would be blamed should the hold be lifted too late to actually spend all of the money, which would violate the law.
which boil down to this, Republicans yapping that trump has the right to withhold appropriated funds over an anti corruption policy fail to recognize that under the impoundment control Act he is required to notify congress when he does but he didn't because his withholding those funds wasn't justifiable! Does any republican have any grouse with my assessment? undecided

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