Leyqute:


Ole has been acting senile since the loss to Newcastle and Longrod. I don handoff since.

His reaction to van Persie’s criticism is just off, especially the last ‘medieval’ part. I don’t really watch or read comments from his pressers again.

Ole is senile. I repeat, Ole is senile.

That medieval part really got me. Like wtf?

Kuku join arsenal fans and start jumping round the stadium na, rubbish.

Cpaul47:
Every week new drama.. Watch how positive news will fill everywhere once we get a win tonight

Another Masterclass performance loading....

I don’t think we’ll get a win tonight. And if we manage to beat Wolves it won’t really change anything.

You gotta move past momentary wins and losses. It’s deeper than it seems.

Leyqute:


Ole has been acting senile since the loss to Newcastle and Longrod. I don handoff since.

His reaction to van Persie’s criticism is just off, especially the last ‘medieval’ part. I don’t really watch or read comments from his pressers again.

Ole is senile. I repeat, Ole is senile.

It was so unnecessary. It wasn’t even like RVP was attacking him, he just said what he wanted to see more from him and baba started talking about Jersey no 20.

Or did someone tell Ole that they want to sack him and replace him with RVP?

Creatrixity:


I think Van Piro got under Ole's skin and I'm loving it. I'm cool with Ole but the man needs to stop acting all chummy when it's obvious some players need a kick up the azz. A good manager can switch from chummy (which can be absolutely necessary) to a dreadful hurricane when needed.

See Sir Alex for references

Even Rio agreed with RVP observation.

Just imagine the class or 92 attacking Ole as they did with Mou.

larride:


Even Rio agreed with RVP observation.

Just imagine the class or 92 attacking Ole as they did with Mou.

Guyman go just form illness like some of our players and pass pressure put for carrick body

larride:


Even Rio agreed with RVP observation.

Just imagine the class or 92 attacking Ole as they did with Mou.

Those cowards who didn't waste time to bash mou and lvg

weedtaker:
Guyman go just form illness like some of our players and pass pressure put for carrick body

He go don dey meltdown mode already.

Burnley wan kee this team.

patrickmuf:
Elampiro, I am certain from your comments you don't watch a whole lot of games, you depend mostly on reviews and stat sites to form an opinion. Henderson is more creative than Fred, there's no comparison here. Wijnaldum is more dangerous around the box than all our CM bar Pogba...Only Pogba can walk into that Liverpool midfield and only because of his individual quality but then, his work rate will fail him if he does not improve.

On creativity, I see you talking about front 4, before now, you used to say front 3 until you managed to convince yourself that an AMF is an attacker. I need not explain that an AMF is different from a SS which is the role Tevez and Rooney played to perfection. The job of an AMF is to get the ball from midfield and either drive into the opposition half using speed and technique or use his passing skills to locate an attacking player.

No elite team depends only on their strikers (front 3 or 4 as you wish). Bayern has Lewandowski, Gnabry, Coman, Alaba, Kimmich, Coutinho.

Barcelona has Messi, Suarez, Griezemann, Alba and Semedo.

Manchester City has Aguero, De Bruyne, Sterling, Mendy, Mahrez and Bernardo Silva

Real Madrid have Benzema, Hazard, Bale, Marcelo, Carvajal.

Juventus have Ronaldo, Higuain, Dybala, Alex Sandro, the passing skills of Bonucci at the back etc.

Liverpool have Salah, Mane, Firmino, Robertson, TAA plus added creativity from deep (Van Dijk and Henderson).

Every top team is set up to have at least 5 players in attacking position when they go forward coupled with midfielders who have got the passing range should they decide to go long but you're here arguing otherwise. How you want the strikers to do it all when the AMF is trash and their fullbacks don't bump forward to draw defenders away from them is beyond me.

In the past I have asked you to study videos of Messi getting past players wherein you'll see the importance of the runs the likes of Suarez, Alba, Rakitic, Semedo and the rest make. One run behind or across a defender is enough to destabilize a whole defense just like the run Kolasinac made that saw our defensive shape all over the place.

I dont look at stats. I only look at stats when argument is getting long and sometimea want to know who might be right or wrong. But again stats are the most credible judgement not your subjective views based on the way you underatand football

Hendenson is not as creative as Fred, he only plays with more quality forwarda. Yet Fred still beats him on stats. Do you know many through balls Fred has passed and got missed from poor attempt?

Central Attacking midfielder 10 is a forward player. It is not debatable. When Rooney played 10 behind RVP why did we all agree he was a forward player? None of us ever considered him a midfielder. You were here when Coogar and I had years of arguments. These poaitions are settled you cannot change them. Cetral attacking midfeilder plays behind the striker and between the two wingers. He is meant to be the primary supplier.

Who has said elite teams depends only on strikers. No team does. Also no team or elite team depends on only defenders to defend the box. But we know whose jobs it is to defend primarily

Every top team and low teams set several men in attacking position when they attack and even more men in defenaive poaition when they defend. But we are talking of primary reaponsibilities. It is not like we are saying players should be statues.

eph12:

Which successful team depended on only the attackers to create chances and score goals, especially in the last decade or so?

You seem not to pay attention to what you read before you reply

Ravioli:
Burnley wan kee this team.

....with aerial ability. Watch how United will struggle against the same team

Guys seems not to understand what is called primary responsibilities. It doesnt mean that reaponaibilities dont overlap.

Also, it is not only 'succesful teams' who have non forward players as creative players. All teams do have players from all positions heavily creating, even bottom table teams.

So it is not something perculiar to succesful teams. Every team big or small would always free up an attacking minded deep player.

elampiro:


I dont look at stats. I only look at stats when argument is getting long and sometimea want to know who might be right or wrong. But again stats are the most credible judgement not your subjective views based on the way you underatand football

Hendenson is not as creative as Fred, he only plays with more quality forwarda. Yet Fred still beats him on stats. Do you know many through balls Fred has passed and got missed from poor attempt?

Central Attacking midfielder 10 is a forward player. It is not debatable. When Rooney played 10 behind RVP why did we all agree he was a forward player? None of us ever considered him a midfielder. You were here when Coogar and I had years of arguments. These poaitions are settled you cannot change them. Cetral attacking midfeilder plays behind the striker and between the two wingers. He is meant to be the primary supplier.

Who has said elite teams depends only on strikers. No team does. Also no team or elite team depends on only defenders to defend the box. But we know whose jobs it is to defend primarily

Every top team and low teams set several men in attacking position when they attack and even more men in defenaive poaition when they defend. But we are talking of primary reaponsibilities. It is not like we are saying players should be statues.

I'll end the argument here...If you think Fred is more creative than Henderson, then fine.

patrickmuf:
I'll end the argument here...If you think Fred is more creative than Henderson, then fine.

I think Fred is more creative than Henderson.

Henderson though is good at long passes.

Cpaul47:


....with aerial ability. Watch how United will struggle against the same team

Hmmmm

kokaneprodigy:

With United DNA Where else should he be?

I'm sure he pressed the doctor into giving him a fake DNA result.

elampiro:


Whoscored stats has over 200 indices for measuring performance. United midfielders rated higher than Liverpool midfielders.

Raumdeuter, is whoscored reliable?

weedtaker:
I think Fred is more creative than Henderson.

Henderson though is good at long passes.

Fred hasn't shown creativity. He has played some decent passes forward but not much and not consistently. I'm not convinced he has shown enough to prove he's more creative than Henderson who is probably the least creative regular midfielder for Liverpool.

Ravioli:
Manchester United: Grades in 2019-20

No matter what you want to post, I'm certain of one thing:

Lingard - F9: Advised to withdraw

Chrisus:

No matter what you want to post, I'm certain of one thing:

Lingard - F9: Advised to withdraw

elampiro:


You seem not to pay attention to what you read before you reply

The answer you're trying so hard to avoid is none. Every other thing there is just you trying to win an argument.

The wailing and gnashing of teeth today nuh go be here

Prectega:
The wailing and gnashing of teeth today nuh go be here

if they lose there’s a ready made positive to be laid out.

“At least they can now focus on winning the league and Europa league”

kokaneprodigy:
if they lose there’s a ready made positive to be laid out.

“At least they can now focus on winning the league and Europa league”

Win gini .. With which squad ..

elampiro:

We are talking about the main people who create. We have four in front including the number 10 whose primary responsibility in 4-2-3-1 is to create..

Liverpool has three in front freeing one middle man to support defence. Our midfielders and defnders don't have that luxury of extra coverage

Who is that No 10 in united that we expect yo create?

weedtaker:
Be like dis Arsenal loss pain guys well well, I still think that game is fluke.

I actually see us beating wolves today sha.

Hope so but it won't change Ole from being a useless coach.

larride:


It was so unnecessary. It wasn’t even like RVP was attacking him, he just said what he wanted to see more from him and baba started talking about Jersey no 20.

Or did someone tell Ole that they want to sack him and replace him with RVP?

Everything Ole said in response to that demand for more passion post-match is nonsense. Absolute crapp. Pure poppycock.

Ole himself is injured. He needs to check in into the sick bay.

The pressure is beginning to get to Ole. IMO he has nothing new to offer

Chrisus:
No matter what you want to post, I'm certain of one thing:
Lingard - F9: Advised to withdraw

Lol

codedguy1:


Who is that No 10 in united that we expect yo create?

They are not good enough and if Pogba and Tominay are fit, we can play 4-3-3 instead

McTominay-Fred-Pogba

We can still use Matic if Pogba is absent. But Pogba and Matic together might not be good due to little sprint time and low distance coved sprinting and running.