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Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by Nobody: 10:20pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
In a series of tweets on Friday defending President Trump’s decision to authorize the drone strike that killed Iran’s top intelligence commander, Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, Vice President Mike Pence reeled off a list of some of General Suleimani’s most notorious attacks and machinations. Mr. Pence described “an evil man” who had threatened American national security interests for decades. In one of his tweets, Mr. Pence claimed that General Suleimani helped 10 of the men who would go on to carry out the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks cross through Iran and enter Afghanistan. That does not match established historical accounts of General Suleimani or public United States intelligence about the hijackers. WHAT WAS SAID Mr. Pence said on Twitter that General Soleimani “assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of 10 of the 12 terrorists who carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.” This lacks evidence. How Mr. Pence arrived at this number and this account is unclear. From what is commonly known about General Suleimani and the group of men who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks, their paths did not cross. To start, many observers were quick to point out that 19 terrorists, not 12, were involved in the attacks. Katie Waldman, a spokeswoman for Mr. Pence, clarified that he was referring to a subset of 12 of the attackers who are known to have traveled through Iran to Afghanistan. Ms. Waldman said that Mr. Pence’s statement was based on a finding by the U.S. Treasury Department in 2016 that Iran permitted “several of the 9/11 hijackers” to transit through the country. The finding did not directly link the hijackers to any forces overseen by General Suleimani, or specify how many may have been granted passage. The notion that General Suleimani abetted the attackers at all also appears dubious. By 2001, General Suleimani had already been named the head of the Quds Force, the powerful security branch that often coordinates with other terrorist groups worldwide. Yet General Suleimani was not named at any point in the “9/11 Commission Report.” In fact, the report states in no uncertain terms that neither the Iranian government nor Hezbollah, a group that General Suleimani worked closely with, ever knew anything about the attacks or helped facilitate them: We have found no evidence that Iran or Hezbollah was aware of the planning for what later became the 9/11 attack. At the time of their travel through Iran, the Al Qaeda operatives themselves were probably not aware of the specific details of their future operation. Why General Suleimani, the leader of a hard-line Shiite Muslim military apparatus, would have come to the aid of members of Al Qaeda, a Sunni extremist group with strong ties to Saudi Arabia, is also unclear. General Suleimani spent much of his career undermining Saudi Arabia, and once even plotted to have the Saudi ambassador to the United States assassinated. At various points, he was also said to have helped facilitate the capture of Qaeda militants on behalf of the United States. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/us/politics/pence-iran-factcheck.html?partner=msn Mynd44, Lalasticlala |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by Nobody: 10:22pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
It is clear Trump and his Vice Pence are bent on making sure they paint Suleimani as a terrorist out of desperation because they know he is not and wish to use lies to Justify his assassination. Washington Post Analysis The speech by Pence below Vice President Pence linked Qasem Soleimani to 9/11 in a string of tweets Friday afternoon, and it seems apparent why: Not only is he emphasizing what a bad guy the United States just killed — which is unquestionably true — but he also seemed to be feeding the case that the Trump administration can attack people like Soleimani because Congress authorized force in response to 9/11. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/03/pences-problematic-tweet-tying-qasem-soleimani/ |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by Nobody: 10:26pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
The facts surrounding 9/11 attacks do not support Pence and his claim about Suleimani and even the USA already declared long before now that Iran had no hand in the 9/11 attacks. Suleimani was a threat to Saudi Arabia who happen to be an Ally to America along the Sunni vs Shiites line and it is also known that Saudi Arabia together with USA created ISIS which Suleimani was very instrumental to their destruction in Iraq. Suleimani was a terror to ISIS and Al Qaeda and killed many of them yet USA wants to claim that this same man is a terrorist? For sake of clarity, There were 19 terrorists who carried out the 9/11 attacks: 15 Saudis, 2 Emiratis, 1 Egyptian, and 1 Lebanese. All the attackers were all Sunni. Iran is Shiite. Sunnis and Shiites are mortal enemies. So how is Suleimani linked to 9/11? |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by Nobody: 10:32pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Tetehjewels: The reason Suleimani was taken out, is because he held a forum and he made a speech insulting Trump of USA, calling him a gambler and threatening that he will hurt US President and Americans. That is not how a Military General who represents a country speaks, he was more j.anjaweed than a Military Head of a Sovereign State, so he had to be taken out as a Janja,weed Militant. Humans must decide what you want to be - His position was Military Head, but His Mind was J,ajanweed. He deserves what he got. Next Scene in the Movie. Iran should make some news abeg. No need for Netflix. |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by Nobody: 10:38pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Vortex369: So it is because of a speech? I wonder what happened to freedom of speech in his own country? Something USA claims they champion right? Incidentally, Trump was the first to make Threats to Iran which was why Suleimani got angry and made that speech about Trump being very disrespectful to Nations when he speaks. Trump claims he was assassinated because he killed and was planning to kill americans. Pence claims it was because he was a part of 9/11 Incidentally records show that Suleimani was an American asset in iraq and worked closely with USA in their fight against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan as well. So how can someone who cooperated with USA now be tagged a terrorist by the same USA whose orders he followed? Same records show that Suleimani was not linked to 9/11. Not just Suleimani but Iran as a whole were not linked to 9/11. These records are from USA themselves. So who is now lying? |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by PointZerom: 10:39pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Vortex369: Tell them what they don't know. |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by PointZerom: 10:41pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Tetehjewels: It is not only speech. He attacked US embassy in Iran few days ago before issuing threat statements against Trump and US. |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by Nobody: 10:53pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
PointZerom: Stop with the lies. He never attacked the US embassy. It was a protest which got out of hand. How can you say He attacked the embassy? With what did he attack it with? With people chanting words and armed with sticks? |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by PointZerom: 10:56pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Tetehjewels: They destroyed properties and set some parts of the embassy ablaze. What do you call this? |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by Nobody: 10:59pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
PointZerom: And i ask again, how was it Suleimani who did this? Can you link the civilians who went to the embassy to Suleimani for me please? I want to see how you linked them |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by PointZerom: 11:04pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Tetehjewels: After the attack on US embassy, Trump issued a statement but Suleimani replied, in his reply..he insulted Trump and threatened US. The US has intelligent report of all his wicked activities. 1 Like |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by Nobody: 11:14pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
PointZerom: And that is your link? His response to trump was due to the rather uncouth manner he felt Trump addresses other nations which was why he said "When trump speaks he sounds like a Gambler. When he speaks to China, Russia, etc he speaks like a Gambler" In other words he speaks like a man who simply does not care. His response was not due to the embassy issue. |
Re: Pence Links Suleimani To 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. by PointZerom: 11:17pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Tetehjewels: Let him come and finish the fight he started. Just imagine how a top general was taken out with 9 other top soldiers with him. |
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