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Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 4:03am On Jan 06, 2020 |
Good heavens! The last 4 days have been very embarrassing for me as a Nigerian, an African and a citizen of the global space. My mum always says "if you don't have enough resources to argue, don't contribute to the argument". Putting this is context, if you don't have enough resources to argue international politics, please concentrate on the politics of tribalism y'all play and stop sounding like primary school kids arguing about the US military and defence systems. Now, to correct some misconceptions, few days into the new year, Donald Trump ordered an unfortunate airstrike on Iranian military general, Qasem Souleimani - a rather brash decision in my opinion. In the face of Trump's issues with the American people, this is arguably the most terrible decision he has made since entering office. He did not order an airstrike on a "terrorist"! No. He ordered an airstrike on the military leader of one of the world's most dangerous sovereign nations currently and Iran won't take it lightly. Souleimani is highly revered in Iran after he helped the State build Nuclear weapons across the country. You can be sure the country wouldn't hesitate to order the use of this "weapon of mass destruction" if need be, thus we are all inclined to believe a "WWIII" is upon us. Iran are clearly no pushovers, Americans know that but Trump who still has the impeachment noose hanging around him seems quite ignorant of this fact. Another amusing misconception is that the US is 'temporarily domiciled' in Iraq is 'to stop Islam from spreading'. Like it, hate it, the US is in Iraq for the Oil reserves and that is the honest and simple truth. America is no "world police". South Korea, China and Russia could easily have a go at being "police of the world" if the world needed policemen. But not America. The US is no NGO. They have budgets to finance. They have to 'make extra' and to do this, they sponsor or fuel attacks and wear cloaks of "world police" and fleece countries of their resources in the name of giving help. Also, Iran isn't a poor nation. On the contrary, Iran is one of the richest countries in the world in terms of GDP per capita so comparing military weapons on the bases of budgets won't suffice. While the US has sophisticated gadgets, Iran has DEADLY weapons capable of wiping out a quarter of the world if activated. Lastly, Donald Trump should watch his back. In moments like these, your friendliest ally, could turn out to be your deadliest enemy. *Black Americans don't like him. *White Americans don't like him. The Democrats despise him. He's a pain in the ass to fellow Republicans. He sure is walking on a fine, thin line. * Apologies for my "colour profiling". Max Pepple Student, International Relations Elizade University 2 Likes |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Amazingman(m): 4:05am On Jan 06, 2020 |
Techdra: So all in all you are saying?........ |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by TheExecutioner: 4:49am On Jan 06, 2020 |
A military leader who has been organising and arming militias all over the middle east, fighting proxy wars in Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, Iraq etc Ordering mass extra judicial killings of protesters etc Techdra: |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by sweerychick(f): 5:09am On Jan 06, 2020 |
And who are you to speak for Africa? What's your point.. the world is a global village buddy, Everyone has the right to speak their own mind 1 Like |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by leofab(f): 5:18am On Jan 06, 2020 |
A new world where naiveness trives |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by mrvitalis(m): 5:22am On Jan 06, 2020 |
TheExecutioner:America armed terrorist groups to fight Syria ,afghan, Iraq ,even in Iran |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Iamgrey5(m): 6:28am On Jan 06, 2020 |
With all due respect sir, you are the one talking trash. America ordered the assassination of a man that has been a pain in their neck for decades. Of course, many question the timing of the assassination because Sulemani has been on the radar of America for years but the current American administration claims that there was an imminent attack planned by Sulemani on American interest in the region. Of course, I would like to wait and see the full report of the American intelligence gathering which should be presented to American congress this week. On the other issue, Iran is no match for American military might. America would wipe out Iran military installations in 15 to 30 days period with missiles that would likely invade Iran Missile defense systems. I.e. the Tomahawk missiles used to attack Russia air force in Syria in 2017 The Tomahawk is a long-range, all-weather, jet-powered, subsonic cruise missile that is primarily used by the United States Navy and Royal Navy in ship- and submarine-based land-attack operations Fun fact: Do you know America sunk half of IRANIAN Navy in a single attack in the 1980s. 1 Like |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by helinues: 6:45am On Jan 06, 2020 |
Trump was only trying to please the yeye Democrats due to their criticism of not taking active actions on Iran.. All thanks to their media wing, CNN It was a bait as the kangaroo impeachments and the elections not certain for Democrats.. Trump must be regretting his actions by now.. So he made use of unrest protests in Iraq to killed Iran general in Iraq ( Iraqis do not like how Iran government is influencing their government...) US camping their base in any neighbouring countries to Iran wont be that easy as US for years have so many enemies.. This is a useless war initiated by egocentric Usa.. Other world leaders are smart enough not to involved themselves... War and power hungry countries must be ready for this.. Maybe US has no idea some of them have been approaching Iran secretly in order to get Uranium for their Nukes... Russia signed some deal with Iran last year.. Kim Jong Un might also be meeting with Iran secretly.. After all, enemy of my enemy is my friend |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Nobody: 7:09am On Jan 06, 2020 |
God why did I open this rubbish, No country on Earth can stand American. 2 Likes |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 8:53am On Jan 06, 2020 |
Amazingman: Don't argue if you don't have enough resources to back you up. |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by fergie001: 8:55am On Jan 06, 2020 |
I only saw "America is no world police." Since you are in Elizade, wear a bomb or better still mastermind a bomb blast at the US Embassy in Abuja....then know who is World "Boys Scout". Just say you want to make NL fp So if President Buhari has intelligence from his people that so and so is about to happen, he will fold his arms, right? You are accusing Trump who has before him credible intelligence you and I don't have of making wrong timings etc., are you in the intelligence committee? Let me assume it was done in bad fate, are you not also guilty of making the same assertions as Trump as if you are on an international call with Iran, Dems, reps and the UN. |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 8:57am On Jan 06, 2020 |
TheExecutioner: Then you can argue American military chiefs including Trump can be branded as terrorists too because they order drone strikes on these "terrorists" and end up killing the innocent too... |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 8:58am On Jan 06, 2020 |
sweerychick: Well speak your mind and don't argue like primary school kids on this subject... |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 9:18am On Jan 06, 2020 |
Iamgrey5: Whether Soleimani was a pain inthe neck of the US has no bearing now. He's a top military leader of one of the world's most dangerous countries. Just like ordering a strike on a North Korean military leader. It's outrageous! American interest in Iraq, Iran and Syria is plainly their resources - Oil especially. These countries are fed up with America dictating their affairs as a sovereign nation in the name of helping. Soleimani and Iran led this "mutiny" and with his killing, the US has exposed the bare truth this leaving Iraq quite disenchanted and now ordering them to LEAVE! American volunteers are fleeing Iraq, they know Trump won't save them. Well, Iran has been much developed from the 1980s and it won't be as easy as you paint it to be. Iran has strong allies. They may be small in number, but they're trusted allies. The US can't claim to have such backing because world leaders don't intend to fight a war anytime soon. They don't even like Trump. There's a reason everyone thinks Iran won't be pushovers, America has hyped itself for decades but the gap is closing swiftly. You talk about jets and jet-missles? You probably don't know about the capacity of Nuclear and Uranium weapons. Iran has. The US doesn't. 2 Likes |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 9:23am On Jan 06, 2020 |
helinues: Exactly. Iran May not have as many allies but they're dangerous. See Macron who was "backstabbing" and mocking Trump behind his back with Boris Johnson and co, now coming out to "famz" him. |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 9:25am On Jan 06, 2020 |
supportnija: You may live in denial if you wish but the US isn't invincible... |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 9:33am On Jan 06, 2020 |
fergie001: September 11, 2001. The WTC, situated within the boundaries of the "police of the world" was blown to pieces by one man. They weren't world police then? The US is world police but "small" countries dare challenge them? Nothing was about to happen... The protest carried out on the US Embassy was meant to voice out their concerns and ask the US to LEAVE their country. Nothing more. PS: I didn't write this. I copied this from a friend because I share a similar view on this... |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by fergie001: 9:59am On Jan 06, 2020 |
Techdra:No Problem, Did the protests claim any life? Not yet confirmed Did anyone get injured? Yes The embassy is the Sovereignty of that nation, and any nation. If you attack the Embassy of Togo in Abuja, you have attacked Togo as a nation....we all know what that means. All we need do, is try to play a mediating stance no matter how little it may count. Small countries challenge them, for same reasons to whittle down their effect. When you are in a class of 40, and you come 4th, do you seek to challenge that person that came 39th or the person that comes first? Ask yourself, how has the USA been post 9-11, then ask these "smaller countries that dare challenge them", how far? Inside life! Let's leave global politics and encourage world peace by opposing the sponsor of smaller terrorist groups to perpetrate evil and also urge restraint on this kind of reprisal. |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Subduer: 11:48am On Jan 06, 2020 |
sweerychick:Should've listened to Mama, & try to understand how Bismarck made Germany a world power. |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by SmellingAnus(m): 3:48pm On Jan 06, 2020 |
You have a nice heading... Unfortunately you decided to take sides instead of being neutral in your write-up... 1 Like |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 4:38pm On Jan 06, 2020 |
fergie001: How about we leave diplomacy and talk about reality. How would you feel if, as an independent nation, another country with no ties dictates to the governmentwhat to do and what not to do, fleecing a ravaged country of its resources? What would be the most ideal way of asking them to leave? Protest. Unfortunately, it went out of hand but the Iraqi government never condemned the actions of Iran! Instead asked the US to leave. Doesn't that sound suggestive? The US hovers around Iran for its natural resources and Iranians, Iraqis don't like it. It's fine if they justified their actions with his war crimes but not his role in the protest. Moreover, the timing of the airstrike is totally wrong. 9/11 simply proves the US isn't untouchable. With even more sophisticated weapons, it is way easier. The recent shootings makes it clear to see. Like I said, North Korea and Iran have both come a long way since the 70s and they aren't pushovers now. So because you hear news from the US everyday and you hear little or nothing about Iran doesn't mean they're small frys. There's a reason everyone thinks Iran is dangerous enough to start a 'war' with the US. While US obeys UN rules on using Nuclear weapons, Iran and North Korea do not. Anyways, like I said, Trump is walking on a thin line and war with Iran is totally out ofthe question. Even if Iran loses in a war with the US, they would keep on improving till they get it right. |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 4:39pm On Jan 06, 2020 |
SmellingAnus: Nope. I just feel Iran shouldn't be underestimated. |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by fergie001: 5:42pm On Jan 06, 2020 |
Techdra, you are always mentioning the US isn't untouchable as 9/11 showed as if you want them hit. You have become a Revolutionary Guard member and ditching diplomacy for reality, I laugh. Any person who has read about or witnessed war will want to call for de-escalation of this crisis. You gave yourself away in the last line as an "Iran sympathiser": "Even if Iran loses in a war with the US, they would keep on improving till they get it right." Meaning you want them to improve, so as to attack and defeat the USA. At this point, you can simply join the Quds or best still, attack the " US Embassy in Nigeria " so that you will understand what it means by Sovereignty. Good luck in your quest. |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 7:21pm On Jan 06, 2020 |
fergie001: Thanks. ☺☺☺ |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by fergie001: 7:27pm On Jan 06, 2020 |
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Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by SmellingAnus(m): 8:01pm On Jan 06, 2020 |
Techdra:same way other persons feel Iran is no match for the US in war... |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Iamgrey5(m): 8:25pm On Jan 06, 2020 |
Techdra:@ emboldened when I saw your response during the day I was discouraged from engaging you because I was busy and you don't have the knowledge of the topic of discussion. America is the first and only country to use uranium/nuclear bomb on any nation in the history of the world. They used it against Japan to end world war two in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. The essence of cold war is the quantity of nuclear war head that both Russia and America had but never used. They agreed to reduce it at the of the cold war. Even the likes of Pakistan, Isreal and India has better nuclear capacity than Iran So it is almost a joke to claim Iran has nuclear weapons and Americans don't. |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Techdra: 5:24am On Jan 07, 2020 |
Iamgrey5: I never said the US doesn't have nuclear weapons. I meant the US DOES NOT use nuclear weapons because of strict UN regulations on its use... |
Re: Iran-US Tensions: Africans Should Quit Discussing International Politics if... by Theowise(f): 2:11pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
USA IRAN PALAVER: POSSIBILITY OF WWIII. MY STANDPOINT. Indeed, the losses which arise directly from a war are in no way proportionate to the losses deriving from a people's bad and unhealthy life as such. Silent hunger and evil vices in ten years kill more than war in an organized sense could finish off in a thousand year. The cruelest war, however, is precisely the one which appear to be the most peaceful to present day humanity, namely "THE PEACEFUL ECONOMIC WAR." In its ultimate consequences, this very war leads to sacrifices in contrast to which even those of the world war shrink to nothing. For this war affects not only the living but grips above all those who are yet to be born. Whereas, war at most kills off a fragment of the present, economic warfare murders the future. Few hours after the murder of Qassem Soleimani, oil price already surge across Europe and the Middle East. While Iran have hacked into American Federal Depository Library Programme (FDLP) website late Saturday. I do not see an all out war breaking out between both nations, rather, a cold and cyber war that will inevitably take it toll on their future development. To this end, wise political leader of a people will never see in war the aim of the life of a people, but only a means for the preservation of this life. Let's keep a close tab as events unfold in the days to come. Ire oooooo. |
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