Rosskii:


Boko Haram has no links to Iran. Boko Haram is linked with ISIS. Iran has been fighting and defeating ISIS and Al Qaeda, and is opposed to their local reps like Boko Haram and Al Shabab.


ISIS and AL Qaeda are Saudi-funded groups, and the Saudis are US allies.

So ISIS and AL Qaeda are proxy terrorist groups sponsored by the west and its gulf allies.

Hezbollah and Hamas are Shia militant/terrorist groups backed by Iran.

So each side has its own ''terrorists''.

This is what many of you Nigerians cannot seem to understand. That the issue is more complex than your simplistic summations.

Tell them

ThreeBlackBird:


I have been a big supporter of Trump since I can remember. I have read his books of which my favourite being "Think Big." I download a lot of his campaigns, speech, debates of which my favourites are his third debate again Hilary Clinton when he was enmeshed in a locker-room talk scandal and his State of the Union Address in congress last year. I also love his first U.N. address that held no bound or restriction. I model after him and his books guide my thinking. His book, Think Big, is my second best after Robert Greene's 48 laws of power.

From reading his books, I understand Trump perfectly and know what he can do and what he wouldn't. That doesn't mean I can't criticise him. I'm exposed to international journal and have history in my head.

I don't follow blindly because I like you. I'll criticise you if I have to. The only reason many of you keep dragging us backward in Nigeria is because you don't bother thinking with your heads anymore immediately you've love a leader. That's why Buhari still has cult-like followers and the ineffectual buffoon of a former President hasn't been stoned.

Can you now tell me how Quassem Seleimani killed 600+ Americans? I'm actually curious to test your knowledge.

I do not have to tell you how or when. You should send that question to the US state department and other organizations that declared him and his QODS force he led a terrorists long ago. The US doesn't wake up and declare one a terrorist just for the fun of it. By the ways, what was he doing in Iraq at a time when the US embassy was just attacked by the same guys he was hanging out with?

THE LAND THAT GOD PROMISED ISRAEL, STRETCHED DOWN TO RIVER EUPHRATES IN IRAQ (JOSHUA 1:3-4) AND THAT REGION IS KNOWN AS KURDISH REGION, WHICH IS MAINLY POPULATED BY THE KURDS, WHO ARE ISRAELIS,WHO MIGRATED TO IRAQ WHEN ISRAELIS WERE SCATTERED OVER THE EARTH BY THE ROMANS IN AD-70. WHEN THE STATE OF ISRAEL WAS RE-ESTABLISHED IN 1948,MANY OF THEM RETURNED TO ISRAEL AND TILL DATE.ISRAEL MAINTAINS THE VISION OF STRETCHING DOWN TO RIVER EUPHRATES AND IRAN AND THE MUSLIM WORLD KNOW THIS. FOR AMERICA TO LEAVE IRAQ,WILL ENDANGER THE KURDS AND ISRAEL WILL DO EVERY THING TO LOBBY THAT THEY REMAIN THERE,SO THAT KURDS WONT BE LEFT AT THE MERCY OF IRANIANS WHO HAVE SWORN THAT ISRAEL WONT REALISE ITS VISION OF STRECHING DOWN TO RIVER EUPHRATES. ALL THESE THINGS SIMPLY PUT, ARE BIBLE PROPHECIES UNFOLDING,MIXED WITH INTERNATIONAL POLITICS. ATTACHED ARE PHOTOS OF KURDS DEMONSTRATING FOR THEIR INDEPENDENCE CARRYING ISRAELI FLAGS. cfountainoftruth@gmail.com

DexterousOne:



Exactly

Many Nigerians are looking at it from a religious lens
And they all sound silly

My country people don tire me bro.

Mouthpis:


Oh!

Ladycewhy, I love you.

I wish I could buy you some roasted fish from Abacha barracks in Abuja.

God bless you once again for dropping it the way you did.

lol someone had to say it,these people think we are blind or dumb. See the way muslims move in this country , we have been looking at them with one eye they think we don't know what is going on.

All Muslims have empathy for terrorists,they believe its for the cause of propagating Islam yet they will come out and tell you those terrorsists are nothing real muslims where as even they themselves move around with dagger under their jalabia waiting for the next religious riot so they can attack non-Muslims.

eedimo:


We have Boko haram and Fulani herdsmen all around yet we keep discussing US and Iran. How are the both nations contributing to our welfare.

We must do away with this slave mentality.

Where were Boko Haram and Fulani Herdsmen before US entered Iraq and Libya? Should US and Iran go to war you really believe Nigeria would not be affected? For starters... any country with a substantial Muslim population would be under the spotlight and travel restrictions/scrutiny would be increased. Did you apply for a US Visa?...gooood luck.

@ topic..... what happens when power goes in the wrong hands. Iraq must pay for the bases they didn't ask to be built. Is the US going to pay for the destruction of their properties in the thousands of bombing raids? Those in Iraq who were welcoming the US with open arms to get rid of Sadam Hussein should've looked at the recent history of the military entering a country.

Originalsly:


Where were Boko Haram and Fulani Herdsmen before US entered Iraq and Libya? Should US and Iran go to war you really believe Nigeria would not be affected? For starters... any country with a substantial Muslim population would be under the spotlight and travel restrictions/scrutiny would be increased. Did you apply for a US Visa?...gooood luck.

@ topic..... what happens when power goes in the wrong hands. Iraq must pay for the bases they didn't ask to be built. Is the US going to pay for the destruction of their properties in the thousands of bombing raids? Those in Iraq who were welcoming the US with open arms to get rid of Sadam Hussein should've looked at the recent history of the military entering a country.

How many wars have the muslims won against anyone in the past 200 years. Cut me that crap and allow the US and IRAN deal with themselves. Any muslim country that decides to get involved will have themselves to blame. The 6 day war is still fresh in their memories and they dare not make such stupid mistake again..

Ewedegubbler:


I do not have to tell you how or when. You should send that question to the US state department and other organizations that declared him a terrorist long ago. The US doesn't wake up and declare one a terrorist just for the fun of it. By the ways, what was he doing in Iraq at a time when the US embassy was just attacked by the same guys he was hanging out with?

Soleimani was a US asset who worked closely with US military in Iraq as he more or less headed the Iraqi militia and used them to defeat ISIS in Iraq while using his Kurd forces to defeat ISIS in Syria, Lebanon and Al-Qaeda.

His presence in Iraq is not news because he goes there all the time. His guys did not attack the embassy, CIVILIANS did as a show of being fed up with american presence in their land.

Iraq was very peaceful until America came. Ever since then it has been a hell hole

They came into Iraq through lies about weapons of mass destruction and then were asked to leave which they did and then they turned around to create ISIS with the help of Saudi Arabia so they can use them as another excuse to invade Iraq for the second time.

Iran has been against ISIS and helping Iraq all along. USA and Saudi Arabia jointly created Isis to help push the US world domination agenda

They can create any lie and spin any story just so they can invade that country of focus and in the case of Syria and Iraq it was all orchestrated for sake of their oil.

If there is any country which deserves to be labelled a terrorist it is USA

Russia has similar capabilities as USA but do you see or hear them misbehave like US? Instead they come in to help clean up the mess USA have caused.

Trump is the worst President in US history

Make Iran do small small , unless they have serious backing from China, Russia and North Korea then they can do anyhow. The US will just repost it's troops to Kurdish areas and Sunni areas supported by Saudi Arabia in Iraq and nothing will happen. It's like Buhari telling US to pull out forces from Nigeria then the US simply relocate all their forces to SS and SE because they know we will stand with them, just using it as an analogy

Tetehjewels:



Soleimani was a US asset who worked closely with US military in Iraq as he more or less headed the Iraqi militia and used them to defeat ISIS in Iraq while using his Kurd forces to defeat ISIS in Syria, Lebanon and Al-Qaeda.

His presence in Iraq is not news because he goes there all the time. His guys did not attack the embassy, CIVILIANS did as a show of being fed up with american presence in their land.

Iraq was very peaceful until America came. Ever since then it has been a hell hole

They came into Iraq through lies about weapons of mass destruction and then were asked to leave which they did and then they turned around to create ISIS with the help of Saudi Arabia so they can use them as another excuse to invade Iraq for the second time.

Iran has been against ISIS and helping Iraq all along. USA and Saudi Arabia jointly created Isis to help push the US world domination agenda

They can create any lie and spin any story just so they can invade that country of focus and in the case of Syria and Iraq it was all orchestrated for sake of their oil.

If there is any country which deserves to be labelled a terrorist it is USA

Russia has similar capabilities as USA but do you see or heat them misbehave like US? Instead they come in to help clean up the mess USA have caused.

Trump is the worst President in US history

Not interested in you conspiracy mumbo jumbo, if your terror General was a US asset while having the tag of a terrorist on his head then he was a deadman walking. He and his Iran had poked into USA's eyes for a while now and someone needed to call them to order and he just did.

As for Russia, You are a big fat liar about them having the same capabilities as the USA. In what ways do they have, Economically or militarily? They tried it in Afghanistan as USSR and were wrecked and never survived it. The last time I checked Russia has got only one military base out of its land and that is the one stationed in Syria. kindly educate us as to Russias military and economic capabilities that they will use to project the same military might as the USA

Fuckyoumod:
are you sure your in this world?


Forcing who on what?

America spent a lot on Iraq, the lost men and women in Iraq, they built a multi billion dollar military bases in Iraq.

Who is going to pay for all that? You? Or your big empty head?

So Iraq should pay up and America would leave.

Before you attack him take a look at this,

Trump says they have to pay for the military bases. No biggie but then states if you tell us to go, we will give you sanctions. Which does the opposite making them not to be able to pay up. I don't think any nation would allow the US have bases in their nation after this as conflict of interest would always come in one way or another.

Let's even go back to history.

The war on Iraq. Started from a false accusation that Saddam has WMDs. Without proof or justification, they made that place a shell of itself and with the demise of the warlord Saddam of the area, ISIS was born. Who should be claiming damages from whom.

In another thread https://www.nairaland.com/5616647/eeben-barlow-us-funded-buharis

“Our initial aim was not Boko Haram per se, it was to rescue the Chibok girls. They were the girls that were kidnapped and the western response was #Savethegirls (#BringBackOurGirls),” he said.

“That type of nonsense does not save girls. Unfortunately, these girls became victims of a situation where the security had broken down in a specific area, they were kidnapped and that was the first mission – rescue the Chibok girls.
...

“But we were never allowed to execute the entire operation. In one month, we took back terrain larger than the terrain of Belgium from Boko Haram. We were not allowed to finish because it came at a time that governments were in the process of changing.

“President Jonathan’s government saw the entire Boko Haram contract, if we call it that, as a last grasp to regain popularity. The incoming president, President Buhari was heavily supported by a foreign government and one of the first missions was to terminate our contract.

“We were told it was the United States and they had actually funded President Buhari’s campaign and the campaign manager for President Buhari came from the US.

“I’m not saying the United States is bad, I understand foreign interests but I’d have thought that a threat like Boko Haram on the integrity of Nigeria ought to be a priority but it wasn’t.”

When asked why the US allegedly aborted the mission, he said: “I think the US can answer that, I have come to realise that when a foreign interest clashes with a state’s interest and domestic interest, conflict is bound to ensue and those conflicts continue with no end.”

Even Libya would not have happened without the US. That spilloff hit us here as well.

Now with the attack on the Iranian general, what do you think that one would also escalate to? I won't be surprised they had an influence in the sudden rise of BH with funds and logistics to make them regroup stronger. I wonder why the zeal to let oil nations have conflicts?

GreyLaw:


Many of them don't have an idea what they are talking about. All they do is hate on America.

There is never a time in the world when everybody would be equal. Never! Moreover, life doesn't work that way. If everybody is equal then nobody will lead and when nobody leads there is bound to be more chaos than when there is a more powerful leader.
African kingdoms (even in present day Nigeria) fought themselves to a standstill, conquering and annexing other kingdoms before the Whiteman came. Today in Nigeria tribes are still clandestinely trying to colonize each other.

If the Arab or Persian world ever held superpowers in this modern times of the fanatical religion they practise, they'd nuke everybody before you could blink your eyes. When Arabia and Persia held the balance of power in ancient times, they practiced their traditional religions and were a far better people. Not now anymore.

If North Korea had some fanatical religion like them they'd be worse than they are today
Sane people prefer America's madness (they have to be because of the crazy world they are dealing with) to Middle East fundamentalist rule any day anytime!

And those Americans are not more evil?. Sponsoring ISIS, world deadliest terrorists, u must be funny, America is more evil than any other country

Tetehjewels:


Nobody forced or begged USA to enter Iraq. They lied their way into Iraq because of her oil. They claimed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and used it to invade Iraq only to discover later that there were absolutely no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

They killed Saddam over lies. Bombed Iraq over lies. Killed thousands of Iraqis over lies yet want to be compensated?

Trump is mad.

so was it trump that invaded Iran?

teemy:


Before you attack him take a look at this,

Trump says they have to pay for the military bases. No biggie but then states if you tell us to go, we will give you sanctions. Which does the opposite making them not to be able to pay up. I don't think any nation would allow the US have bases in their nation after this as conflict of interest would always come in one way or another.

Let's even go back to history.

The war on Iraq. Started from a false accusation that Saddam has WMDs. Without proof or justification, they made that place a shell of itself and with the demise of the warlord Saddam of the area, ISIS was born. Who should be claiming damages from whom.

In another thread https://www.nairaland.com/5616647/eeben-barlow-us-funded-buharis



Even Libya would not have happened without the US. That spilloff hit us here as well.

Now with the attack on the Iranian general, what do you think that one would also escalate to? I won't be surprised they had an influence in the sudden rise of BH with funds and logistics to make them regroup stronger. I wonder why the zeal to let oil nations have conflicts?

Mike Pompeo just chipped in some words of wisdom in regards to Iran trying to start some proxy war with the USA. If they try that, the US will still deliver retribution on them directly inside Iran and nothing go happen..

Techdra:


Iraq never solicited the help of the US. They took the risk and should bear the repercussions. The only police in the world who force themselves on sovereign nations...

uninformed mind and soul..... Iraq called for America's help when ISIS was eating , ravaging and declaring caliphates in Iraq. If not for America and other foreign troops Iraq would have been a complete caliphate

Threads like this make me enjoy being a Nairalander.
I read all the points made so far and I'm wowed at the level of intelligence here.
I am not even interested in who wins or loses, It's just overwhelmingly great to know we still have intelligent minds on here.

Wehdone Sir/Ma

Now Trump has exposed America

No one will want a US base now

Ewedegubbler:


Not interested in you conspiracy mumbo jumbo, if your terror General was a US asset while having the tag of a terrorist on his head then he was a deadman walking. He and his Iran had poked into USA's eyes for a while now and someone needed to call them to order and he just did.

As for Russia, You are a big fat liar about them having the same capabilities as the USA. In what ways do they have, Economically or militarily? They tried it in Afghanistan as USSR and were wrecked and never survived it. The last time I checked Russia has got only one military base out of its land and that is the one stationed in Syria. kindly educate us as to Russias military and economic capabilities that they will use to project the same military might as the USA

You just proved my point. Russia will and has never been power drunk like USA even when they can if they want to.

The Syria you mentioned was because as usual they wanted to clean up the mess USA created in ISIS.

What you refuse to see, you cannot see and that is the fact the USA has caused nothing but mayhem and destruction in this world as they sponsor terror and still fund attempts to eradicate the same terror they created

USA is a country designed to profit off conflict. If the world is at peace USA will fall so it needs to constantly sponsor and create conflict for it to thrive and leech off other nations with massive arms proliferation through their many military bases in the world. They easily equip terror cells to cause disability in a country then unleash their media propaganda wing to talk about how that country is breeding terrorists and need to be stopped and after that they begin deployment of troops into that country

A US war veteran exposed all a few days ago via video and he was spot on

You do not know half of what is going on and by the way I am from Akwa ibom and a Christian. Since you said Soleimani was my terror general I had to clarify my religious position so you would not descend further with the tomfoolery.

BenzEne1:


I am sorry, but all you know about terrorism is what the Western media has fed you. You see every Muslim as vile and violent.
The US commits terror acts as much as these fanatical Islamic groups. But you see one as white and the other black.
Na God go help una sha. InshaAllah

oga even with things happening in naija, an average Muslim man is dangerous.

Nairaland and jokers

Fuckyoumod:
are you sure your in this world?


Forcing who on what?

America spent a lot on Iraq, the lost men and women in Iraq, they built a multi billion dollar military bases in Iraq.

Who is going to pay for all that? You? Or your big empty head?

So Iraq should pay up and America would leave.

Fuckyoumod:
are you sure your in this world?


Forcing who on what?

America spent a lot on Iraq, the lost men and women in Iraq, they built a multi billion dollar military bases in Iraq.

Who is going to pay for all that? You? Or your big empty head?

So Iraq should pay up and America would leave.

Na who send them work? did iraqi write them invitation letter?

Laurene:
so was it trump that invaded Iran?

Iran? Who is talking about Trump invading Iran here?

Tetehjewels:

Iran? Who is talking about Trump invading Iran here?

Iraq, I mean

Ewedegubbler:


Mike Pompeo just chipped in some words of wisdom in regards to Iran trying to start some proxy war with the USA. If they try that, the US will still deliver retribution on them directly inside Iran and nothing go happen..

One way Iran can 'win' this war is to take a chill and go about it the World Court route. They will only get decimated but the US will also get hurt as all its military bases in the region will be hit. The US had no justification for that assassination and even more on foreign soil. People around the globe have started talking. Trump will be the scapegoat and that in itself will be seen as a win without letting the conflicts go ballistic.

sammirano:
When Iraq already ordered them to leave. Dreamers

They will leave once Iraq compensates them for the money spent to build PERMANENT military facilities.

Tetehjewels:


Nobody forced or begged USA to enter Iraq. They lied their way into Iraq because of her oil. They claimed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and used it to invade Iraq only to discover later that there were absolutely no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

They killed Saddam over lies. Bombed Iraq over lies. Killed thousands of Iraqis over lies yet want to be compensated?

Trump is mad.

They were invited after that to help in fighting ISIS.

eedimo:
We have Boko haram and Fulani herdsmen all around yet we keep discussing US and Iran. How are the both nations contributing to our welfare.

We must do away with this slave mentality.

whatever affects the U S of A affects us

Laurene:
Iraq, I mean

Trump or no Trump the fact remains that it was USA that invaded Iraq through the lies they fabricated and sold to the UN.

It has long been shown that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and even former UK prime minister had to come out publicly to apologize for the invasion of Iraq as there were no weapons of mass destruction but what did Trump do? Instead of towing the path of honour for the mistakes of USA he now turns it all to a bully session by further threatening Iraq and you want me to take sides with such blatant injustice?

Who would compensate Iraq for the thousands of lives US troops and US rockets killed over that lie they told? Who would compensate them for the many buildings rockets destroyed and businesses crippled or orphans created?

einsteine:


They were invited after that to help in fighting ISIS.

USA with Saudi Arabia created ISIS in order to use them to regain entry into Iraq. Saudi Arabia is a chief sponsor of Isis and Saudi Arabia is a US ally

Macelliot:
If Saudi Arabia government are given 2 Nuclear Weapons to destroy any country on this earth, the First Bomb will be sent toward IRAN...

Do you know where the second bomb will be sent It's NOT Israel.......


It will be sent to IRAN again to finish the remaining survivors.....

you are wicked.. you want them to wipe out iran from the surface of earth