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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 10:27am On Jan 09, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



Used to be a subsidiary of UBA, the company was spin-off by UBA and transferred the ownership to the shareholders of UBA, so that the bank can concentrate on core banking,.

Investment One was a subsidiary of GTB. GTB sold the ownership of the firm to the staff and management of the company. In order to face their core banking business.

The only banks with interest in other financial businesses apart from banking are Stanbic IBTC, First Bank and FCMB.

These banks have holding ownership structure, they have subsidiaries that are into Investment banking, asset management, stock broking, insurance, trustees , Pension fund management etc. Hence it takes a long time to audit their financial reports.

What is the difference between investment Banking and asset management?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yomi007k(m): 10:42am On Jan 09, 2020
Good morning house.
shocked
Something awkward just happened this morning.

My T.bills that is supposed to mature in March 15th just dropped and I was still paid in full.

Has anyone experienced this before?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:01am On Jan 09, 2020
freeman67:


What is the difference between investment Banking and asset management?

Asset Management and Investment banking are different and also interrelated related.

Asset Management firms have equity mutual fund products, money market fund products, fixed income fund products, Eurobond fund products , REITs , Wealth management products and other derivatives.
Wealth management products assist investors in perpetuating their wealth and Investment from generation to generation, through the creation and management of Trust accounts. There are people who earn tens of millions and more annually through such trust accounts .

Investment banking involves assisting big businesses/ government etc to raise funds for Investments, businesses and projects etc. The funds can be in form of equity or debt. They act as issuing houses to public offerings, right offerings etc, they are also Investment advisers to businesses, government and High Networth Investors. They also help in the marketing of highly lucrative deals, business and investment opportunities to High Networth Investors.


This is just a summary, asset management firms and Investment banking firms do more than these.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Jejebabaa: 11:15am On Jan 09, 2020
ukay2:



Sorry Sir.

Just saw your PM.

Have replied you now.

Waits your response.

Thanks
Apologies for my late response. I figured out that Oga Emma already added you to the SMI group. Enjoy sir.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 11:36am On Jan 09, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Asset Management and Investment banking are different and also interrelated related.

Asset Management firms have equity mutual fund products, money market fund products, fixed income fund products, Eurobond fund products , REITs , Wealth management products and other derivatives.
Wealth management products assist investors in perpetuating their wealth and Investment from generation to generation, through the creation and management of Trust accounts. There are people who earn tens of millions and more annually through such trust accounts .

Investment banking involves assisting big businesses/ government etc to raise funds for Investments, businesses and projects etc. The funds can be in form of equity or debt. They act as issuing houses to public offerings, right offerings etc, they are also Investment advisers to businesses, government and High Networth Investors. They also help in the marketing of highly lucrative deals, business and investment opportunities to High Networth Investors.


This is just a summary, asset management firms and Investment banking firms do more than these.

Thank you Sir. Been trying to separate both for a while.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Powerexpert: 11:59am On Jan 09, 2020
Under what asset can we place 'generators'?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ukay2: 12:22pm On Jan 09, 2020
Jejebabaa:

Apologies for my late response. I figured out that Oga Emma already added you to the SMI group. Enjoy sir.


Thanks Sir
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by maslong(m): 1:37pm On Jan 09, 2020
mikylon:
FGN BOND is the way forward now ooo. Just that the tenors are to long.

Good day sir, please help me with the following questions :
1 what is the minimum amount required to buy FGN bond.
2 what is time duration for the investment to be matured.
3 If I should invest like 4 millions, how much is it likely yield per month.
Thanks as I await your answers .

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmasoft(m): 2:10pm On Jan 09, 2020
Gforce2015:


I don check your signature. Nah stock exchange dey there. I guess you are a broker.
Anyway, this is a free world. But I don't have free money to gamble. I have lost a lot of money in stock exchange and I can afford to lose again. Once bitten ,twice shy..
Tell me sth else.

I don't think so Sir. My signature is an account opening form for all investment products from investment one. Both mutual funds and stocks. my phone number is also there you can send a chat. The VGIF apart form the MMF is one of the products it's not stocks.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 2:23pm On Jan 09, 2020
yomi007k:
Good morning house.
shocked
Something awkward just happened this morning.

My T.bills that is supposed to mature in March 15th just dropped and I was still paid in full.

Has anyone experienced this before?
Yes o. Mine was supposed to mature by February but it dropped on the 3rd of January and was paid in full too. Gtbank

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ozymes: 2:34pm On Jan 09, 2020
Which bank?
yomi007k:
Good morning house.
shocked
Something awkward just happened this morning.

My T.bills that is supposed to mature in March 15th just dropped and I was still paid in full.

Has anyone experienced this before?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yomi007k(m): 2:36pm On Jan 09, 2020
OgogoroFreak:
Yes o. Mine was supposed to mature by February but it dropped on the 3rd of January and was paid in full too. Gtbank

Wow.

This is a new development.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yomi007k(m): 2:36pm On Jan 09, 2020
ozymes:
Which bank?

First bank.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ozymes: 2:40pm On Jan 09, 2020
Any explanations from them on this development?
yomi007k:


First bank.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by unite4real: 2:44pm On Jan 09, 2020
OgogoroFreak:
Yes o. Mine was supposed to mature by February but it dropped on the 3rd of January and was paid in full too. Gtbank

wow. let me run and check. February na cash windfall for me. 4 bonds mature with their final coupons plus 3 Treasury bills. If they are liquidating the TBs before maturity, its kind of strange. i want to suggest you look again on your investment advice, just to be triple sure. Banks really do not like loosing a second of income to anyone.

i am forced into thinking the TBs were secondary market (in the bank's control) and the banks are trying to reduce their cash to not default on the CBNs 65% loan to deposit ratio. People no gree come forward to collect loans and if they keep the cash in excess of 35%, na sanction straight from CBN.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by billtommy(m): 2:45pm On Jan 09, 2020
ozymes:
Any explanations from them on this development?

comparing the purchased rate with the present low rates, that is even being over subscribed. I think returning investments that were subscribed at high rate shouldnt be a problem. infact, i think they are gaining more.....considering time factor.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by mikylon(m): 3:11pm On Jan 09, 2020
maslong:


Good day sir, please help me with the following questions :
1 what is the minimum amount required to buy FGN bond.? to buy from primary market, you need about 50m, while buying from the secondary market varies per institution. ARM has a minimum investment limit of 5m.
2 what is time duration for the investment to be matured.? There are 3 yrs, 5yrs , 10yrs and 30yrs tenors
3 If I should invest like 4 millions, how much is it likely yield per month. ? Like i said , each institution has a minimum limit, ARM securities has a minimum of 5m. Others might be higher or lower. You can also try FGN savings bond (January interest rate is 8.144% for the 3years tenor and u would be paid interest quarterly. While FGN bond interest is paid every 6months.(FGN bond interest for December was 12% for 3/5yrs, Still waiting for January interest rate)
Thanks as I await your answers .

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ozymes: 3:13pm On Jan 09, 2020
Just my thought too
billtommy:


comparing the purchased rate with the present low rates, that is even being over subscribed. I think returning investments that were subscribed at high rate shouldnt be a problem. infact, i think they are gaining more.....considering time factor.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 3:25pm On Jan 09, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



Not bad, but I have my reservations and can't invest in any until SEC starts regulating crowd funding in Nigeria.

If any of the big Investment houses like Stanbic IBTC Asset Management, FBN Asset Management, FCMB Asset Management, Investment One financial services, United Capital should promote any agricbusiness I will invest with them they must done their home work on profitability and sustainability. They have billions of naira under management. United Capital is managing fund to the tune of over N100 billion, Stanbic IBTC Asset Management is even bigger.

I know I can get back my money if the investment did not go as projected



I don't know if we are familiar with the story of a smart but dubious student of Obafemi Awolowo University who raised close to N2 billion through crowd funding from investors which he promised mouth watering monthly returns although he paid for some months this made the investors to invest more money and also invited more people into the investment scheme due to the referral incentives he introduced to the scheme. At the end of the day he eloped with investors' money valued at N1.8 billion this happened more than 7 years ago

My sentiments exactly.
I believe it's an area with very good prospects but with lots of new agri tech companies and lots of money to be made, without the right oversight, it may just be a matter of time before it becomes another ponzi-like scheme. I have no issues testing them out with little money, but the fear is that after that, one is likely to then invest significantly, and that's when they usually start disappearing.

Didn't know about that story but it's not surprising. Getting the money is one thing. They using it judiciously and turning out profit in a short while is the real issue


I'm looking towards FBN MMF. Though their rates are not so brilliant, but it's more dependable
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 3:33pm On Jan 09, 2020
jedisco:


My sentiments exactly.
I believe it's an area with very good prospects but with lots of new agri tech companies and lots of money to be made, without the right oversight, it may just be a matter of time before it becomes another ponzi-like scheme. I have no issues testing them out with little money, but the fear is that after that, one is likely to then invest significantly, and that's when they usually start disappearing.

Didn't know about that story but it's not surprising. Getting the money is one thing. They using it judiciously and turning out profit in a short while is the real issue



Invest just what you can afford to lose in the numerous crowd funding Schemes eg 100k and below, alth


I'm looking towards FBN MMF. Though their rates are not so brilliant, but it's more dependable

Invest just what you can afford to lose in the numerous crowd funding Schemes eg 100k and below although I can't invest in such ventures because I don't invest in what I don't understand.


Try FSDH Asset Management, their rate is about the highest for now 11%

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DaBogu: 4:04pm On Jan 09, 2020
I am certainly open.
emmanuelewumi:


If we are open to new ideas, cross fertilise ideas with genuine and forward thinking people. Get the necessary information and knowledge, I think there are endless opportunities in the Nigerian Investment terrain.

While some of us are lamenting the Indians, Lebanese, Chinese, South Africans are making a kill in our economy.

Recently developed interest and learning about the agricultural sector,
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by unite4real: 4:07pm On Jan 09, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Invest just what you can afford to lose in the numerous crowd funding Schemes eg 100k and below although I can't invest in such ventures because I don't invest in what I don't understand.


Try FSDH Asset Management, their rate is about the highest for now 11%

2 days ago it was actually 9.58%. still doing well actually

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 4:16pm On Jan 09, 2020
Dangote is opening office in new York to serve as investment arm of the group to buy into dollars assets for sustainability of family wealth.....hmmmm dangote dangote still dey find money....why me no go try preserve my chicken change in more reliable assets....

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 4:21pm On Jan 09, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Invest just what you can afford to lose in the numerous crowd funding Schemes eg 100k and below although I can't invest in such ventures because I don't invest in what I don't understand.


Try FSDH Asset Management, their rate is about the highest for now 11%

I haven't heard of them. Are they affiliated to any bank?
I just opened an FBN MMF account and their rates are about 8.8%

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DaBogu: 4:22pm On Jan 09, 2020
grin grin grin grin grin
ahiboilandgas:
Dangote is opening office in new York to serve as investment arm of the group to buy into dollars assets for sustainability of family wealth.....hmmmm dangote dangote still dey find money....why me no go try preserve my chicken change in more reliable assets....
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:25pm On Jan 09, 2020
jedisco:


I haven't heard of them. Are they affiliated to any bank?
I just opened an FBN MMF account and their rates are about 8.8%

Have you heard of FSDH Merchant Bank?

A google search will be of help.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ukay2: 4:41pm On Jan 09, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
Dangote is opening office in new York to serve as investment arm of the group to buy into dollars assets for sustainability of family wealth.....hmmmm dangote dangote still dey find money....why me no go try preserve my chicken change in more reliable assets....


I am oliver twist. ....wants some little more


Once you feel you have arrived (relaxed). ...you will start going down

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 4:58pm On Jan 09, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Have you heard of FSDH Merchant Bank?

A google search will be of help.

Just got off the phone with them. Their TB rate is 9.4% which corresponds with what's on the app. Annoyingly, they said the Coral income fund is 8% (whereas 11% is stated on the app). They insist the app has issues and is in the process of being corrected

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yomi007k(m): 4:59pm On Jan 09, 2020
ozymes:
Any explanations from them on this development?

No explanations given.I'm yet to ask the bank as I'm at work.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:04pm On Jan 09, 2020
jedisco:


Just got off the phone with them. Their TB rate is 9.4% which corresponds with what's on the app. Annoyingly, they said the Coral income fund is 8% (whereas 11% is stated on the app). They insist the app has issues and is in the process of being corrected

Treasury Bill at 9.4% or money market fund?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by X21: 5:11pm On Jan 09, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Treasury Bill at 9.4% or money market fund?


this 9.4% being quoted must be one year (prior 12 months) average earnings
do not assume that current investment will give that yield
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 5:45pm On Jan 09, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Treasury Bill at 9.4% or money market fund?

Their FSDH TREASURY BILLS FUND
Said the rate changes daily. Was about 12% before Christmas. I suspect it would continue to decline for now

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