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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Fidelismaria: 3:02pm On Jan 09, 2020
See as Nigerians here dey form like they are better

The same way AA blame racism is the same way Nigerians blame corruption and northerners for their underdevelopment

The black man always needs someone to blame

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by SkinnyNigga: 3:02pm On Jan 09, 2020
1Sharon:


Yes it is. Don't come here and lie.
tell me what it means .. since you know

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by akintunde63: 3:03pm On Jan 09, 2020
Okpa042:
There is a huge chasm between African-Americans and African immigrants in the United States. That chasm has widened over the years. It has caused deep animosity between many African-Americans and their African immigrant cousins.

The chasm has prevented African-Americans from participating in the current economic boom in Africa and it has shut many African immigrants out of opportunities for economic advancement here in the United States.

The problem stems from deep misconceptions, sometimes fueled by the U.S. media. Astonishingly, many African-Americans believe that Africans are backward and primitive. Some make crude jokes about Africans or do not acknowledge the great contribution Africa has made to the world.

For their part, many African immigrants buy into the erroneous notion that African-Americans are lazy and violent.

They do not appreciate the great sacrifice African-Americans made, through advocating for their civil rights, to lay the foundation for Africans to be able to come to the United States and live in a country where both blacks and whites have equal rights, at least in theory if not always in practice.

The different experiences of the two groups

To understand the deep division that exists between African Americans and Africans, one first has to examine the background of the two groups.

Before migrating to the United States, most Africans have typically dealt with white Americans who went to Africa as Peace Corps volunteers, missionaries, doctors or teachers. These Americans acted as mentors and guardians to the Africans and developed positive relationships with them.

When they come to the United States, it has been my experience that Africans can easily identify with white Americans because they understand each other. Before migrating to the United States, the majority of Africans have had little to no direct negative experiences with whites. They simply do not hate them.

On the other hand, most African-Americans grew up in black neighborhoods where they learned from older generations the history of slavery and the cruelty it inflicted on the black race. Furthermore, they have usually experienced firsthand and in their communities the legacies of racism that still exist in the United States.

With this background, many African-Americans are not generally predisposed to trust white Americans, and they look down on those African immigrants who express respect or admiration for white Americans.

How they react to racism and discrimination

A fundamental difference between African Americans and African immigrants is the way they react to racism and discrimination.

African Americans usually see racism as the main cause of poverty among their people. They are also quick to point out instances of perceived racism, even in circumstances where it is ambiguous, unclear or more complex than simple racial bigotry or discrimination.

A classic example is the currently large African-American population in prison. Most African-Americans feel that the only reason there are so many African Americans incarcerated is their race. They blame police discrimination and lawmakers who make laws weighted to punish blacks.

For Africans, after suffering many years in civil wars, military coups and other problems, they are happy to be in a country that offers them freedom. They are ready to integrate into the American culture without getting involved in the lingering racial conflicts. They do not typically get involved in the ongoing civil rights struggle – and that has angered many African-Americans.

How they react to adversity

Perhaps the greatest difference I have seen between African immigrants and African-Americans is how they react to adversity.

Most African immigrants to the United States came here for economic advancement. They do not have any political agenda. They are willing to take any job and do not blame the “system” when they fail in their endeavors.

Most African immigrants to the United States often live in mixed neighborhoods instead of black neighborhoods and they easily integrate. African immigrants know who they are. They are not easily offended when someone tries to put them down. They know where they come from and why they are here.

For African-Americans, there is often a tendency to blame slavery for most of the problems they face today. For instance, when African American students fail in school, some educators blame slavery and do not look for other factors.

However, the time has come for African Americans to realize that while racism still persists, the best thing they can do for their children is to teach them to take full responsibility for their actions. Fathers need to take care of their children and young women need to stay in school instead of having children.

It is only when black people, be they from Africa or America, unite to instill discipline and respect for each other that the chasm that has divided us will narrow. Then we can finally work together to remove poverty from our people both here in the United States and Africa.

Source: https://www.theglobalist.com/african-americans-african-immigrants-differ/

The chasm is wider and deeper than you could imagine; it is even wider between Africans themselves, than between Afro-Americans and Africans. For example, South Africans killing and maiming other Africans, as their police watch the massacre. At least it is done codedly in the US, not so openly.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 3:05pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Lotechi(m): 3:06pm On Jan 09, 2020
When you live in the states, you will definitely have a different perspective about slavery, racism, and every other racial injustices. In my opinion, Americans (mostly white) are actively or passively racist.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by WorWorBoy: 3:09pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 3:09pm On Jan 09, 2020
SkinnyNigga:
tell me what it means .. since you know

It is derogatory. Would you like it if someone called Nigerians a name?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by DexterousOne(m): 3:12pm On Jan 09, 2020
zomby:


Not all african Americans think this way...

The main issue btw african American and stupiid africans is:
1. When you africans leave your shitthole countries and have the audacity to criticize the african Americans in their country.
2. When you africans think you’re better than african Americans
3. When you give birth to your african baby in American, return to your shitthole countries and then send the child back to America after 18 years to simply milk all the things (you did not work for) American citizens work hard/ pay taxes for
4. When you leave your shitthole countries to simply milk the American system, either by your fraudulent activities or by collecting govtmnt money that you do not deserve.
5. When you open your goro infested mouth to castigate the african Americans without taking a time out to completely understand their various backgrounds and history.
6. When you leave your no light shitthole countries to complain about the American system.
7. When you finally obtained your blue passport (become a voter) without understanding that a few african Americans died many years ago fighting for the rights to vote.

Can you imagine, a bunch of clowns running to Nigeria to milk our system and also criticize everything about Nigerians?
Do you guys remember how the Ghanaians were treated in Nigeria many years ago?

Africans should simply shut the fuccck up, learn to understand the history of african Americans and stop looking down at them....For sure, some of these people (African Americans) are more decent by far than average voodoo mugger Africans

Before you advise the african Americans you should first advise the area boys all around Nigeria and also stop collecting bags of rice to vote for those leaders that continue to sink your shitthole countries



What is this one saying?

African Americans are just as shitty as the Africans in the continent
That is what we share in common

They ran Liberia to the ground
And it's a worse shithole than even Nigeria

Americoliberians....

While I get your point

This foolishness goes both ways, and the Afro Americans fcckup too

It's our collective foolishness
That makes the world place us at the bottom of the barrel

AA thinking they are better the regular Africans because they were unfortunate to ferried to America and flogged Koboko for hundreds of years


Or the African pointing fingers at AA while our societies are nothing to write home about

Pot calling Kettle black

Nonsense

Until this crap between these two delusional groups get dealt with

This rubbish will continue

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 3:12pm On Jan 09, 2020
Obi1kenobi:
I find it curious how Africans (Nigerians especially) love to say African-Americans blame all their problems on white people. This may be true, but the hypocrisy involved is staggering. Africans themselves are fond of blaming European colonialism and neo-imperialism for their problems. Yet, claim black Americans like playing the victim.

The only difference I see between black Americans and African immigrants is their circumstances which lead to different behavioral patterns. Africans mostly come from shitholes, so when they go to Europe or America, they understand their new privileges and know they have no excuses not to succeed. So they're filled with pluck and determination. African-Americans on the other hand do not understand how privileges they are and how much harder their counterparts find it in other parts of the world. They're indoctrinated to feel perpetual victimhood and indoctrinated to believe there is systemic discrimination that obstructs their progress, so many turn out lazy and unaspiring.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by tityboi: 3:13pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Gerrard59(m): 3:13pm On Jan 09, 2020
Obi1kenobi:
I find it curious how Africans (Nigerians especially) love to say African-Americans blame all their problems on white people. This may be true, but the hypocrisy involved is staggering. Africans themselves are fond of blaming European colonialism and neo-imperialism for their problems. Yet, claim black Americans like playing the victim.

The only difference I see between black Americans and African immigrants is their circumstances which lead to different behavioral patterns. Africans mostly come from shitholes, so when they go to Europe or America, they understand their new privileges and know they have no excuses not to succeed. So they're filled with pluck and determination. African-Americans on the other hand do not understand how privileges they are and how much harder their counterparts find it in other parts of the world. They're indoctrinated to feel perpetual victimhood and indoctrinated to believe there is systemic discrimination that obstructs their progress, so many turn out lazy and unaspiring

shocked

Did someone hack your account? You really typed that?

@Topic: Well, I think any animosity AAs have towards black Africans will end or at best subside when/if black Africa becomes very rich. Hitherto, Chinese Singaporeans, Chinese Malaysians and Hong Kongers mocked Mainland Chinese because the former were richer and thus more powerful than the latter. However, ever since China rose economically and militarily, Chinese of Singapore, Malaysia and Hong Kong origins have no other choice than to respect Mainland Chinese. You know, they say money stops nonsense. More money stops more nonsense.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Destroyerofyeeb: 3:13pm On Jan 09, 2020
Well they call Nigerians African booty scratcher, coons, uncle Tom since we don't walk around and align with their victim mentality bullshit.
1Sharon:


It is derogatory. Would you like it if someone called Nigerians a name?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by DexterousOne(m): 3:13pm On Jan 09, 2020
Lotechi:
When you live in the states, you will definitely have a different perspective about slavery, racism, and every other racial injustices. In my opinion, Americans (mostly white) are actively or passively racist.

Because the society was designed to make whites think they are the alpha race

So the white cracker is very much a VICTIM of white supremacists ideology as the the black man

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 3:13pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by salford1: 3:13pm On Jan 09, 2020
Obi1kenobi:
I find it curious how Africans (Nigerians especially) love to say African-Americans blame all their problems on white people. This may be true, but the hypocrisy involved is staggering. Africans themselves are fond of blaming European colonialism and neo-imperialism for their problems. Yet, claim black Americans like playing the victim.
The victim thing is very strong atleast among black people generally. Even looking at the Biafra war that took less than 5years, the victor mentality and victim mentality is still present in Nigeria till date. Now imagine the effect on those that fought an anti oppression and anti slavery war for centuries. eg South African blacks, African Americans, North American aboriginals, Australia Aboriginals, Brazilian blacks e.t.c.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Ikjosh04: 3:14pm On Jan 09, 2020
This article sums up while Babyvet is always hostile to Africa immigrants(Nigerian guys) In the travel section. I mean no harm, I'm just thinking out loud grin

CC: MackyNaija, Lionlee216 and co
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by theDEVILisHERE: 3:15pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


AA's own is still going on..

Africa's own is self inflicted and mainly because of indirect rule which the wh:yte implemented..

look at france and its colonies..

"..self inflicted.." This is why it is WORSE!

The people u hope to help u are the ones killing u
Ur next door tribal neighbors is also fighting us

U use one hand to fight the imperialist and another to fight ur brother/sister helping them

Do u think Africans are insane who trek the desert, dodging bullets from bandits/terrorists groups, drinking urine to survive etc just to get to Europe to Hussle

Most AA would not last a week if they were to live the life of some Africans

Worst killings and Torture on black people happened and is still happening in Africa
both by imperialist themselves and their black stooges

Every torture the slave master did to them they did far worse on Africans
Problem with Africa is things are not documented and Africans themselves forget easily

No matter the pain they pass through after few yrs they have forgotten
That is why evil leaders can recycle themselves here cause it is very easy to pacify the African person

But u see the difference is Africans generally don't have a victim mentality

With victim mentality u'll continue to suffer mentally and be oppressed cause the oppressors capitalize on such

South Africans who have this same victim mentality act same way hence the oppressors still oppress them

South Africans never suffered half of what some west Africans past through but u don't see west Africans taking their anger on their fellow Africans like the clowns in South Africa do

Even Namibia their next door neighbor went through hell in the hands of the devilish Germans but they don't behave like them

Victim mentality would keep u down hence irrational behaviour

Their situation is even more straightforward
They all have a common enemy
Get ur shits together and together u all make some progress

In Africa virtually everyone and everything is your enemy hence the confusion and complicated situation here

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 3:17pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 3:17pm On Jan 09, 2020
Destroyerofyeeb:
Well they call Nigerians African booty scratcher, coons, uncle Tom since we don't walk around and align with their victim mentality bullshit.

Are those terms used to refer to Nigerians specifically? Like the word akata is used for AAs?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Fulmigati: 3:18pm On Jan 09, 2020
DexterousOne:


What is this one saying?

African Americans are just as shitty as the Africans in the continent
That is what we share in common

They ran Liberia to the ground
And it's a worse shithole than even Nigeria

Americoliberians....

While I get your point

This foolishness goes both ways, and the Afro Americans fcckup too

It's our collective foolishness
That makes the world place us at the bottom of the barrel

AA thinking they are better the regular Africans because they were unfortunate to ferried to America and flogged Koboko for hundreds of years


Or the African pointing fingers at AA while our societies are nothing to write home about

Pot calling Kettle black

Nonsense

Until this crap between these two delusional groups get dealt with

This rubbish will continue
Nope they did not run Liberia to the ground. Liberia was a vibrant when it was ran by the Americo-Liberians. After the civil war and the overthrow of the Americo-Liberians did the country become in the state it is currently in. The only thing they are guilty of is maltreatment of the natives of Liberia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-vwDkRtKDU

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 3:18pm On Jan 09, 2020
Geminita1:
African americans have this irritating way they speak like they are angry. Very fast and forceful in speech. Huge turn off.

The women are masculine, while the men are feminine. They are a big dent to our image as black people.



Both of you don't have the same story.
Even African immigrants that live in the US for a long period also change and seen as fools acting strange when they return.
That's black man's problem, you will do the same if you were in their shoes.
It's like wishing yourself to go into extinction.

The way I see things now, both Africans in Africa are not safe as we're not doing enough to adapt to this modern world.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by xty50(f): 3:20pm On Jan 09, 2020
Destroyerofyeeb:
Most of these African Americans are also very intolerant and condescend Africans with their nasty, ignorant, close minded and rude lifestyle , that's why Africans tend to isolate them and flow more with Latinos, Asians, white and even afro carribeans. They are mentally damaged people always quick to attach race to every issue which in my opinion I think is gonna really limit their potentials. Nigerians are their no1 enemies, not surprised though every insecure black person has issues with Nigerians because of how over self-confident and loud we are from ghana to satafrika grin
you just said everything on my mind.Its so open that they attack Africans sometimes on Twitter. They are so rude. One of them African American lady did a thread about how Africans are rude and bullied them. I was like what! Most people came to defend Africans there because its the other way round. They really can shout race meanwhile most of them are racist! If you follow them on Twitter you will see how most of them are ghetto!

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 3:20pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


when Africans go to Europe or America, most of them do jobs the indigenes don't want to do...

AA's on the other hand, wouldn't get jobs and also don't want to do jobs the immigrants are doing...

AA's are indigenes in U.S, but the wh:yte people will first give other wh:yte people jobs before they consider the AA or Africans...

This is why getting educated is important, if you're educated and become a skilled professional..who wouldn't want you?

Or become self-employed..who do you work for?
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Allen102: 3:21pm On Jan 09, 2020
Geminita1:
African americans have this irritating way they speak like they are angry. Very fast and forceful in speech. Huge turn off.

The women are masculine, while the men are feminine. They are a big dent to our image as black people. I wish they can go into extinction.
Go to that Kenya is better than Nigerian thread and see how the

Kenyans
Ghanaians
South Africans
are all praying for Nigerians to go into extinction.

Karma is a bitch I tell you.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Jaqenhghar: 3:21pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


no one can put any African country on the world map.

African countries have resources that AA's don't have....

If wh:yte people don't treat Africans well... Africans will kidnap and do things to them....

Im sure by resources you mean oil . .....and no onone develops by mineral resources alone. If that was the case countries like singapore should have nothing. Ifwhote people dont treat..... please can you expatiate on that last part
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by salford1: 3:22pm On Jan 09, 2020
Geminita1:
African americans have this irritating way they speak like they are angry. Very fast and forceful in speech. Huge turn off.

The women are masculine, while the men are feminine. They are a big dent to our image as black people. I wish they can go into extinction.
The same way people in the world feel Africa should just go into extinction grin grin grin

They don't see the black race generally as being useful
Why would you wish that on your race
Terrible.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jan 09, 2020
DexterousOne:


You don't understand


We as Africans are ALL Victims
But being victims for 400 + years does damage to a people

And many Africans are too dumb to realise that

We got most of our own bashing over the lasy 100 years - 150 years

Theirs was centuries upon centuries

They have their own part in their failure

But
What they went through is a significant reason why they are struggling

Some can break free

But that does not mean they are not victims

It's the same thing playing out in S.A.


You're right, most Africans are ignorant of what happened to African Americans,

Ignorance is just black man's problem

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Jaqenhghar: 3:22pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


if you stop blaming then you can't grow...

even when AA's stopped blaming and built "BLACK WALL STREET" a successful AA economy... wh:yte people still found a way to bomb and burn the successful economy...

never stop blaming..

When they bombed it who stopped them from rebuilding it? I cant speak for AAs because I dont know what they go through. I speak of the ones who have been blaming since 1960 yet blaming has not given you 24 hours electricity in the 21st century.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 3:23pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Pusyiter(m): 3:23pm On Jan 09, 2020
0Can it be worse that what we are going through in Africa or what our fathers suffered in the hands of colonial masters and modern slave masters?
DexterousOne:


The African Americans went through a lot.
It affected them
We have to acknowledge that

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