Lana1:
Lol. Abi na.

Na as we don win Norwich 4 - 0 dey cause all this one. By the time Liverpool finish with us next week, they'll be back to default mode wishing we had someone like Pogba in midfield to run things.

Liverpool is going down bro, Martial go use Van Virgil do yeye.

Na their first loss go be that so.

nitrogen:
So Pogba is now a striker, we should expect 29 goals from him, how many strikers score 29 goals in a season? Pogba is a deep lying midfielder for fuvk's sake.

Hope you are aware that it was not me who said he can score 20.

elampiro:


The argument remains if Pogba can add 20 goals and many Assits. Which is no.



It means you are trying to blame the striker. Which means our strikers are poor.

Okay. You’ve corrected yourself. Pogba might not score 20 goals a season but he can get that number in goals+assists.

We now have Rashford and Martial hitting the target more often. Had Pogba been available all these time, he’ll be on 10+ goals and assists, without PK duties.

It’s like you guys don’t know what you’re saying. Remember that long range lob assist he gave Rashford against Chelsea? He’s the only one perfect at it.

Did the same against Watford for Rashford and Greenwood. They lost it.

I remember like 4 or 5 similar assists he gave Rashford last season too.

He might be lazy or you can be angry at him for his flirting with Madrid and unavailability this season but that doesn’t mean he isn’t the best quality midfielder at Manchester United.

Fred and McTom pale in comparison.

elampiro:
This is our creativity last season. Pogba was not even the best

Pogba was 4th behind Sanchez, Mata and Martial. Pogba 4th

Sanchezzzzzz!!!? Are you freaking kidding me?!!!!

You no know ball.

CASE CLOSED.

Leyqute:


Okay. You’ve corrected yourself. Pogba might not score 20 goals a season but he can get that number in goals+assists.

We now have Rashford and Martial hitting the target more often. Had Pogba been available all these time, he’ll be on 10+ goals and assists, without PK duties.

It’s like you guys don’t know what you’re saying. Remember that long range lob assist he gave Rashford against Chelsea? He’s the only one perfect at it.

Did the same against Watford for Rashford and Greenwood. They lost it.

I remember like 4 or 5 similar assists he gave Rashford last season too.

He might be lazy or you can be angry at him for his flirting with Madrid and unavailability this season but that doesn’t mean he isn’t the best quality midfielder at Manchester United.

Fred and McTom pale in comparison.

How did I correct myself? My argument has not changed.

James has given better long passes to the forwards than Pogba. All these you are counting long passes by Pogba, na today he join United? He was here with Ibrahimovic, with Lukaku and Rashford, and now Rashford and Martial.

We might even be worse off on the table with his ball dressing and lackadaisical attitude in midfield.

Leyqute:


Sanchezzzzzz!!!? Are you freaking kidding me?!!!!

You no know ball.

CASE CLOSED.

Sanchez created more than Pogba. Pogna should be ashamed of that.

elampiro:


How did I correct myself? My argument has not changed.

Jmaes has given better long passes to the forwards than Pogba. All these you are counting long passes by Pogba, na today he join United? He was here with Ibrahimovic, with Lukaku and Rashford, and now Rashford and Martial.

We might even be worse off on the table with his ball dressing and lackadaisical attitude in midfield.

It was a typo. You changed from 20 goals to 29 goals.

How many accurate long passes has James made? How many games has he played?

Even at that, his figures can’t be better than Pogba’s.

I’m not happy with Pogba at United due to a number of reasons but that doesn’t mean he isn’t quality.

Pogba can use the ball and hold it turning anyhow. But his first isntict is to stop tje ball, guide it with his legs, prevents marker from reaching it using his ikebe and hands to shove his marker. Seconds are gone and opponents are already regrouping. Then he starts his moves.

Fred first instict is to push forward and make a quick pass using the next available option. McTominay is a hardworker who does the simple things.

Pogna has enoumous skills but for whatever reason, he has not proven to be the main man. Paul Scholes said anyone can come in and does what Pogba does.

elampiro:


Sanchez created more than Pogba. Pogna should be ashamed of that.

elampiro:
2017/2018

Pogba was 6th

Mkhtaryan
Mata
Sanchez
Martial
Ibrahimovic
Pogba

elampiro:
2016/2017

Mata
Rooney
Pogba

Not dat I give a fvck if u guys say even Drinkbleach is better than Pogba but e get some kind tins way person dey see way dey make eye scratch am.

All the players u listed up there wingers or players dat play the 10 role. A winger can put a random Valencia/Bissaka like crosss in the box because he plays closer to the opposition goal and it'll be termed chance created.

elampiro:


Sanchez created more than Pogba. Pogna should be ashamed of that.

This ur post really cracked me upthough. He Should be ashamed dat attackers create more chances than him dats playing further away from goal.
I'm very sure if u check even Madrid u would see dat their attackers have more chances created than Modric (he too should be ashamed I guess). I'm very sure even Lucas Vazquez creates more chances than Modric when he is on the pitch

To make ur point, I was expecting u to bring Pogba's chances created stats vs other midfielders in Manure or other midfielders in the league not Pogba vs attackers...

I'm actually happy with Pogba's current situationthough. I hope he gets shipped off ASAP because Fred and Tominay are far far better than him

elampiro:


Sanchez created more than Pogba. Pogna should be ashamed of that.

Elampiro, you boast of your ‘football intelligence and analysis’ but sadly I Dey question if you know ball at all.

You’re comparing contributions/ min without considering how many minutes were played.

For crying out loud Sanchez played less than 950 minutes. That fraud is always injured and is often brought on when we’re losing to get goals. Why won’t he have a better contributions/min rate, esp since he plays closer to the opponent’s 18-yard box?

Pogba played 3000+ minutes from CM, LCM. Get that. 3000+ minutes. From Midfield.

Mata and the other guy, Martial, played about half of that, from AM and LWF respectfully. How can you make any meaningful comparison from this stat and abide by it like the gospel truth?

Elampiro, you no know ball. Ayagayagayagayo

thorrvik55:






Not dat I give a fvck if u guys say even Drinkbleach is better than Pogba but e get some kind tins way person dey see way dey make eye scratch am.

All the players u listed up there wingers or players dat play the 10 role. A winger can put a random Valencia/Bissaka like crosss in the box because he plays closer to the opposition goal and it'll be termed chance created.



This ur post really cracked me upthough. He Should be ashamed dat attackers create more chances than him dats playing further away from goal.
I'm very sure if u check even Madrid u would see dat their attackers have more chances created than Modric (he too should be ashamed I guess). I'm very sure even Lucas Vazquez creates more chances than Modric when he is on the pitch

To make ur point, I was expecting u to bring Pogba's chances created stats vs other midfielders in Manure or other midfielders in the league not Pogba vs attackers...

I'm actually happy with Pogba's current situationthough. I hope he gets shipped off ASAP because Fred and Tominay are far far better than him

But they said Pogba is the most creative in the team.

Now you have supported my argument that the forward players should be the most creative.

At least I met someone who know ball

Lana1:
No vex but this is some tier 1 bullshìt

Expert17:


Busquet hv been in dat FIFA 11 more Dan 5 times........ UEFA 11 more Dan 5 times.......

Please don't ever compare dat Davies or Kante to Busquet agn.........

Once agn POGBA is the Number 1 in France Midfied

Which of the Busquets, the father or the spineless son?

elampiro:


But they said Pogba is the most creative in the team.

Now you have supported my argument that the forward players should be the most creative.

At least I met someone who know ball

Those chance creation stats can be misleading though. They don't tell the full story.
Pogba can play a delightful through ball that puts a forward 1 on 1 with the goal keeper and it'll be termed "one chance created".

A Winger can just get the ball at the byline and whip one random Wan Bissaka like cross and it'll also be termed " one chance created".

If someone dat did not watch the game checks stats now, he might now say Pogba and the winger both had one chance created without considering the type of chance created .

It is easier for an attacker to pad his chance created stat than it is for someone who plays in midfield.

Leyqute:


Elampiro, you boast of your ‘football intelligence and analysis’ but sadly I Dey question if you know ball at all.

You’re comparing contributions/ min without considering how many minutes were played.

For crying out loud Sanchez played less than 950 minutes. That fraud is always injured and is often brought on when we’re losing to get goals. Why won’t he have a better contributions/min rate, esp since he plays closer to the opponent’s 18-yard box?

Pogba played 3000+ minutes from CM, LCM. Get that. 3000+ minutes. From Midfield.

Mata and the other guy, Martial, played about half of that, from AM and LWF respectfully. How can you make any meaningful comparison from this stat and abide by it like the gospel truth?

Elampiro, you no know ball. Ayagayagayagayo

This shows you don't understand statistics. Stats per minutes played are the best and fairest to compare players. This is also the standard set on this forum since I joined here. I met it being used here and I agreed it was the best form of comparison. It is the same comparison used by all the major analyst to compare players productivity since forever.

thorrvik55:


Those chance creation stats can be misleading though. They don't tell the full story.
Pogba can play a delightful through ball that puts a forward 1 on 1 with the goal keeper and it'll be termed "one chance created".

A Winger can just get the ball at the byline and whip one random Wan Bissaka like cross and it'll also be termed " one chance created".

If someone dat did not watch the game checks stats now, he might now say Pogba and the winger both had one chance created without considering the type of chance created .

It is easier for an attacker to pad his chance created stat than it is for someone who plays in midfield.

But you did not say they don't tell the truth when someone said Pogba was the most creative. However Assists gives a clue.

And James has actually created more quality chances in the team than anyone.

Big Chances created 2018/2019
Midfield
Frazer 28
David Silva 16
Madison 13
KDB 11
Sigurdsson 11
Eriksen 10
Mkhitaryan 10
F.Anderson 10
Bernado S 10
Westwood 10
Brooks 9
Pascal 9
Andaoulaye 8
Solly 8
Matt Richie 8
Roberto 7
Pogba 7 (3012 minutes)

Pogba played 35 matches and still came 16th in the EPL midfielders ranking
.......................

Other United players
Lingard 5...... (1670 minutes)
Mata 5.......(1295 minutes)

thorrvik55: The above is the EPL clear cut chances created from midfield.

Lana1:
Lol. Abi na.

Na as we don win Norwich 4 - 0 dey cause all this one. By the time Liverpool finish with us next week, they'll be back to default mode wishing we had someone like Pogba in midfield to run things.

No mind them. We dey wait.

footiemaniac:
Under Pep, how did Zlatan, Gotze and Yaya Toure fared? These things happens in football.

Pep has left Gotze for 5yrs now. Is Gotze now playing well

Lana1:
Oya what's ur assessment of Rashford considering he has scored 14 goals which include 5 penalties?

I will judge Rashford scoring abilities by the 9 open play goals he scored not by his penalties

We had goalkeepers who score penalties

elampiro:


This shows you don't understand statistics. Stats per minutes played are the best and fairest to compare players. This is also the standard set on this forum since I joined here. I met it being used here and I agreed it was the best form of comparison. It is the same comparison used by all the major analyst to compare players productivity since forever.

When you are not a football virgin.

You compare stats/min and add another criteria like 2000+ minutes.

That’s how Nasiru, an LB who played as a sub in just one game and had like 3 useless crosses will have the best chances created/minute rate.

Elampiro you no know ball walahi.

Expert17:



Haaaaaa

Haaaaaaaa

Another one agn ooooo

Edgar Davis and Kante are better Dan Busquet........ Haaaaaaaa

How do u watch football ......

Even Kante can't say he's better Dan Busquet,.... Not to talk of Edgar davies

U are very funny ooo

Keep quiet. Kante and mostly Davis are better players than Bousquet. It’s unfortunate you guys don’t know football, using team performance to judge a player rather than watching the player himself on the field of play.

Expert17:


But in France team, sissoko and Matuidi bench Kante sometimes...... Euro 2016, he was always on the bench......
He shud try and bench POGBA in France team first......

D only thing Kante does better Dan POGBA is marking....... Nothing more on this Earth....... So DNT go dere

Pogba is jack of all trade master of known. At least you can point out what Kante is special at. First and foremost, Kante and pogba don’t play same position in French squad so asking the later to bench the former is unreasonable.

Big Chances created 2017/2018
Midfield
KDB 19
Alli 16
Pscal 16
Eriksen 15
Silva 14
Townsend 14
Ozil 13
Mkhtaryan 11
Matt 10
Ramsey 9
Marc 8
Fabregas 8
James WP 8
Johann 7
Brunt 7
Courtinho 7
Fernadinho 7
T. Carroll 8
Ibe 6
Lazini 6
Mata 6

Pogba is 4 which is at number 42 on the list

Leyqute:


When you are not a football virgin.

You compare stats/min and add another criteria like 2000+ minutes.

That’s how Nasiru, an LB who played as a sub in just one game and had like 3 useless crosses will have the best chances created/minute rate.

Elampiro you no know ball walahi.

900 minutes and one sub in one game are not in anyway the same.

You no know ball. You be omomo for ball

hensben:
Keep quiet. Kante and mostly Davis are better players than Bousquet. It’s unfortunate you guys don’t know football, using team performance to judge a player rather than watching the player himself on the field of play.

Another learner hs arrived......

If u can't give me statistics..... Keep quiet and sit ur sorry ass down.......

Edgar Davis better Dan Busquet.... The best 4/ defensive midfieder since 2009.......

Kante kor kunte nii.......

Who is better in passing Who is better in Reading d game
U just started watching Football

footiemaniac:


We finished 6th under 2 different coaches, Mourinho and Ole. The common denominator there is Paul Pogba who is supposed to be our messiah. Now that he his not in the team, we are doing pretty well, so it is not so difficult to know where the problem is. Paul Pogba contributions to the success of this team is very minimal.

Even Rashford has more leadership quality than him right now.

You are tight. Man U should sell that pogba and sign serious footballers. Pogba is a flashy footballer, a jack of all trade master of known. He should go to seria A or come to Chelsea so that Kante can be marking for him. His work rate is too average, very unserious footballer who likes to parte and dance with his brothers after milking Man U week in week out.

hensben:
Pogba is jack of all trade master of known. At least you can point out what Kante is special at. First and foremost, Kante and pogba don’t play same position in French squad so asking the later to bench the former is unreasonable.

I talk am,... U DNT watch football...

How is Pogba, jack of all trades?? Has he ever played 4/ defensive midfield before?

Kante can play anywhere in dat midfied.....

POGBA plays set piece better....
POGBA dribbles better ( most skillful midfieder in the world)
POGBA assist better
POGBA scores better
POGBA passes better
POGBA celebrate better

Expert17:


Edgar davies dat cudnt help Bolton from relegation??

What do u wanna compare Kante and Busquet with Trophies or statistics......

Ur rilly funny.
Kante can boost of just 2 league titles, Europa league and world cup...... Busquet is more Dan 20 titles and still counting....... Busquet dat turn yaya toure to defender instead of midfieder at Barcelona....

Or u wanna go to Statistics......

Please just stop ur baseless arguments

Here we go again. Using team success to rate a player. Bousquet is nothing special, he is just been fortunate to be Spanish thereby sentiments played that made pep to turn Yaya into CB.

Expert17:


Another learner hs arrived......

If u can't give me statistics..... Keep quiet and sit ur sorry ass down.......

Edgar Davis better Dan Busquet.... The best 4/ defensive midfieder since 2009.......

Kante kor kunte nii.......

Who is better in passing Who is better in Reading d game
U just started watching Football

Hensben has the worst football knowledge in the whole of nairaland. His opinions are always stupid and biased.

Fernadinho still managed to create more clear cut chances than Pogba. I give up.

I think I have to cut off from here. Tomorrow is Monday

airmark:


Which of the Busquets, the father or the spineless son?

Sergio Busquet... D midfielder dat schooled our midfieders alongside Xavi and iniesta in d 2009&2011 finals