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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by Jakumo(m): 5:56am On Jan 13, 2020
itsme01:
cool



It is a simple warning, Automatic Assualt Riffle are not lisenced to civilians for safety purpose(even in America), but Amotekun can bare arms like pump action and other semi automatic riffles so long they seek the lisence from State Police Comand(it only cost about 10k and some few questioning),

Funny thing is that most OPC/Agbekoya vigilantees already have lisence to bare Arms and they already have a good working relationship with Police


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In Colorado, Texas and several other states of the union, fully automatic weapons ARE legal to own for civilians, so the above claim is 100% wrong.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmeRROzi_4k

Furthermore, it may interest you to know that pump action shotguns, and semi-auto shotguns that are already carried by most of Nigeria's vigilante groups, are NOT legal for civilian ownership in Nigeria. So, while your claim is true, that repeater shotguns are available to Nigerian vigilante groups, it must be made clear that those weapons are technically in violation of the law, when carried by civilian vigilante groups in Nigeria.

Certainly, those vigilante groups, and regular civilian homeowners, DO need repeating firearms to combat robbers who carry all sorts of firepower, therefore, one can only hope that the Nigerian Firearms act of 1990, can be revised to allow ALL civilians to LEGALLY own pump shotguns

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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by Kay25(m): 5:59am On Jan 13, 2020
If na fulani herdsmen dem no go talk if they see ak 47 in their hand those ones are born to rule greater than the law but yorubas are born to serve lesser than the almajiri wakawaka even with all our education..whoever joined Us together was the one who created this problem we are not one please let's divorce
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by clementbiola(m): 5:59am On Jan 13, 2020
sarrki:

https://punchng.com/operation-amotekun-carry-illegal-arms-be-arrested-police-warn-opc-hunters/


Beyond this, I hope the 6 governors can do massive employment. Also look for a way to improve economy status of their states. But high rate of unemployment among the youths is a big problem to the security of the nation

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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by Dollyak(f): 6:01am On Jan 13, 2020
Mynd44:


Very simple stuff.
It really isn't simple if the herdsmen are carrying AK47, how do you expect these guys to confront herdsmen and other similar dangerous units?

The whole point of creating this security unit was because of the failures of police to protect their fellow citizens and the perceived bias towards herdsmen.

A lot of you guys are so naive.

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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by nototribalist: 6:04am On Jan 13, 2020
Arewa police everywhere. Go and arrest sharia police first
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by itsme01: 6:05am On Jan 13, 2020
Jakumo:


In Colorado, Texas and several other states of the union, fully automatic weapons ARE legal to own for civilians, so the above claim is 100% wrong.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmeRROzi_4k

Furthermore, it may interest you to know that pump action shotguns, and semi-auto shotguns that are already carried by most of Nigeria's vigilante groups, are NOT legal for civilian ownership in Nigeria. So, while your claim is true, that repeater shotguns are available to Nigerian vigilante groups, it must be made clear that those weapons are technically in violation of the law, when carried by civilian vigilante groups in Nigeria.

Certainly, those vigilante groups, and regular civilian homeowners, DO need repeating firearms to combat robbers who carry all sorts of firepower, therefore, one can only hope that the Nigerian Firearms act of 1990, can be revised to allow ALL civilians to LEGALLY own pump shotguns


yeah US used to have a Federal Assualt weapon ban but it expired in 2004 and its left to states to legislate on the issue , some ban it others dont

Pump actions and other catridge loading Guns are lisenced freely until 2015 that buhari ordered it to stop, however people are still getting the lisence

PS: no where in the Fire Arm Act prohibits the use of Pump action
http://www.nigeria-law.org/Firearms%20Act.htm?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0pf-S5v_mAhUrURUIHTQJAngQFjACegQIChAB
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by itsme01: 6:08am On Jan 13, 2020
Dollyak:

It really isn't simple if the herdsmen are carrying AK47, how do you expect these guys to confront herdsmen and other similar dangerous units?

The whole point of creating this security unit was because of the failures of police to protect their fellow citizens and the perceived bias towards herdsmen.

A lot of you guys are so naive.


Aunty Pump Action has more damaging power than AK47 in close range combat, and Fulanis carry Ak 47 illegally due to the problem caused in Libya by the US.. In lay mans term what Police are saying is that Amotekun must come for lisencing to get guns and they can only get semi automatic riffles
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by oruma19: 6:10am On Jan 13, 2020
Is the police telling Nigerians that the arms Fulani illiterates carry in the Bushes are registered? Then why do we find of difficult to pin down murderers in the bushes? This Nigeria is not a country o

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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by Jakumo(m): 6:13am On Jan 13, 2020
itsme01:



yeah US used to have a Federal Assualt weapon ban but it expired in 2004 and its left to states to legislate on the issue , some ban it others dont

Pump actions and other catridge loading Guns are lisenced freely until 2015 that buhari ordered it to stop, however people are still getting the lisence

PS: no where in the Fire Arm Act prohibits the use of Pump action
http://www.nigeria-law.org/Firearms%20Act.htm?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0pf-S5v_mAhUrURUIHTQJAngQFjACegQIChAB

Deep in the text of the law, you will notice that there is a reference to the illegality of any civilian owning ANY weapon that is capable of "self-loading", which is a term that covers ANY pump-action, semi-auto or full-auto weapon, thus making ALL such weapons ILLEGAL for civilians.

Now, if you happen to already own a pump action shotgun, look carefully at the wording on your licence, and note that your pump gun is described as a "Single Barreled Shotgun, which is merely a clever way to avoid describing it as a self-loading weapon, by instead focusing on the number of barrels that the gun has.
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by NimrodEndOfDays(m): 6:14am On Jan 13, 2020
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itsme01:
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It is a simple warning, Automatic Assualt Riffle are not lisenced to civilians for safety purpose(even in some states in America), but Amotekun can bare arms like pump action and other semi automatic riffles so long they seek the lisence from State Police Comand(it only cost about 10k and some few questioning),

Funny thing is that most OPC/Agbekoya vigilantees already have lisence to bare Arms and they already have a good working relationship with Police


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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by benpuzzy(m): 6:16am On Jan 13, 2020
How many Fulani have they arrested? Mcheew
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by tot(f): 6:16am On Jan 13, 2020
Mouthgag:
Lol



If not for the uselessness of you people (police), would there have been a need to create all these irrelevant village forces like;
Civil defense
Bakassi boys
Opc
neighborhood Blablabla
And now amotekun.


Foolish people

Exactly.


oruma19:
Is the police telling Nigerians that the arms Fulani illiterates carry in the Bushes are registered? Then why do we find of difficult to pin down murderers in the bushes? This Nigeria is not a country o

Good question. Meanwhile they won't tackle those ones
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by Jakumo(m): 6:19am On Jan 13, 2020
itsme01:



Aunty Pump Action has more damaging power than AK47 in close range combat, and Fulanis carry Ak 47 illegally due to the problem caused in Libya by the US.. In lay mans term what Police are saying is that Amotekun must come for lisencing to get guns and they can only get semi automatic riffles

Out to ranges of LESS than 50 meters, a shotgun will stop the threat quickly, and without the need to take perfect aim before each shot fired. At such close ranges, an AK47 rifle is equally devastating, BUT, must be aimed in order to place accurate shots, if fired in semi-auto or single-shot modes.

At ranges in excess of 50 meters, an AK47 is a far more effective weapon than ANY type of shotgun, because the rifle, if accurately aimed, remains lethal for hundreds of meters, while shotgun pellets, out beyond say 100 meters, are unlikely to inflict mortal wounds on the target.

In short, for inner city close-range combat, the pump shotgun is king, BUT when the range of fire exchange exceeds 50 meters, the AK47 is capable of dominating any battle space, in trained hands.

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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by ifymadu: 6:20am On Jan 13, 2020
They should go and arrest boko haram, herdsmen and katsina/Zamfara bandits first na. Rubbish people
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by samintegrity(m): 6:24am On Jan 13, 2020
I still don't understand this amotekun o

Why can't police men or civil defense be drafted??

Why must we use another group aside the law enforcement agencies??
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by dederocs(m): 6:24am On Jan 13, 2020
Why can't the Nigerian police work with the outfit, train and monitor them, kidnappers and criminals use AK 47, dane guns can't work against them.
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by baby124: 6:29am On Jan 13, 2020
samintegrity:
I still don't understand this amotekun o

Why can't police men or civil defense be drafted??

Why must we use another group aside the law enforcement agencies??
You must be a joker. How secure is Nigeria with these same groups you are suggesting should be recruited? Nigeria is a country of many different tribes. No matter how Nigerian we are, you don’t get comfortable enough to come and attack people in their ethnic land. Otherwise they have the right to stand up and protect themselves.

You can be an animal at home, but don’t expect others to tolerate your bad behavior. Especially in another’s home. Every ethnic group, their traditions and ancestral lands must be respected. That fact can never be wiped away under the name Nigeria.

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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by Jeezuzpick(m): 6:29am On Jan 13, 2020
itsme01:
cool



It is a simple warning, Automatic Assualt Riffle are not lisenced to civilians for safety purpose(even in some states in America), but Amotekun can bare arms like pump action and other semi automatic riffles so long they seek the lisence from State Police Comand(it only cost about 10k and some few questioning),

Funny thing is that most OPC/Agbekoya vigilantees already have lisence to bare Arms and they already have a good working relationship with Police


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I'm just standing here wondering if Miyetti Allah, Boko Haram and the Fulani militiamen carrying AK47, HPMGs and even RPGs are also licensed and have a.......eeeeerrrrm.......working relationship.......these are the guys Amotekun is trying to counter, by the way, carrying "Dane" guns.

As an aside, why Nigerians call local firearms "Dane" is beyond me.

Are they made in Denmark?
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by baby124: 6:30am On Jan 13, 2020
dederocs:
Why can't the Nigerian police work with the outfit, train and monitor them, kidnappers and criminals use AK 47, dane guns can't work against them.
Has Nigeria police finished training themselves to secure Nigerians? Their lives and security?

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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by Neddstark: 6:33am On Jan 13, 2020
But herdsmen can carry AK47? You all created this monster. You will deal with it. Disarm the herdsmen, robbers then we disarm
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by itsme01: 6:35am On Jan 13, 2020
Jeezuzpick:


I'm just standing here wondering if Miyetti Allah, Boko Haram and the Fulani militiamen carrying AK47, HPMGs and even RPGs are also licensed and have a.......eeeeerrrrm.......working relationship.......these are the guys Amotekun is trying to counter, by the way, carrying "Dane" guns.

As an aside, why Nigerians call local firearms "Dane" is beyond me.

Are they made in Denmark?

dont you think we would be creating more problem if we also give Amotekun war grade weapons, even police that use them have being killing people with stray bullets.. If Amotekun sights Fulani bandits, the Guns are meant to curtail them and fight them till they can alert the police and the army close by
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by livebyday(m): 6:36am On Jan 13, 2020
EmekaMD:
But herdsmen carry Ak47 and its ok.
Nigeria Nigeria

Exactly and it makes all wonder why?
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by mariovito(m): 6:37am On Jan 13, 2020
It's time the Federal government of Nigeria accept it's L and move on. Policing cannot be done effectively when it is coordinated from the federal level. Policing should be community based. how can you centrally police over 180 million people? Let the States and regions be in charge of their police apparatus that way, it'll be easier to tweak it to meet their security realities.

The Federal will still keep its police to enforce federal laws, while the state police enforce state laws.

The constituents of the SW and the other geo political zones in charge of this Amotekun should impress it upon their Senators and Rep members to change the laws as it relates to policing. We fail to realise the power in our hands. Once the laws are changed, the NPF will have no option but to relinquish.

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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by Nobody: 6:37am On Jan 13, 2020
is the arms the fulani herdsmen are carrying Legal? have they been arrested despite massacres they are committing with those AK 47?
Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by awgumayor: 6:38am On Jan 13, 2020
Afenifere was right when they said that Amotekun can only catch chicken thieves and not Fulani herdsmen. They knew that northern dominated federal govt will never allow that to thrive because it will limit the expansion of Fulani in South West.
First class Fulani can carry any weapon of their choice, second class Yoruba can set any security operation of their choice but with limited weapons, while the third class Igbo can't set any security operation let alone carry weapons. One Nigeria indeed.

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Re: Operation Amotekun: Carry Illegal Arms, Be Arrested, Police Warn OPC, Hunters by Jeezuzpick(m): 6:39am On Jan 13, 2020
itsme01:


dont you think we would be creating more problem if we also give Amotekun war grade weapons, even police that use them have being killing people with stray bullets.. If Amotekun sights Fulani bandits, the Guns are meant to curtail them and fight them till they can alert the police and the army close by

I wholly agree with you on the "creating snowball effect" thing.

Until the inadvertent massacre of Amotekun operatives by fulanis begins.

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