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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Reine22: 5:37pm On Jan 13, 2020
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Bluefin:


They won’t even send her back at the POE. The worst that can happen will happen upon renewal but if you are done having all your babies- one day they will renew for you even if they reject you. You are better off with your baby getting citizenship now and you not getting your visa than having your baby in Nigeria and still not getting a renewed visa.

You better don’t mind this people telling you to go and renew a visa that is still valid. If they deny you you have lost everything. I only wonder if they would have done the same thing or advised their sister or wide to do the same if they were in your situation.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Mamajam: 5:37pm On Jan 13, 2020
Hello. I have successfully renewed my Visa after paying the discount I was given. If you enjoyed a discount, just call the hospital account department and tell them you want to pay the discount you were given. After paying the discount, ask for a new itemized bill. With your new itemized bill which shows you paid for your treatment in full, you can proceed to apply for renewal.

Another thing, which I believe is extremely important is also to pray for God's favour. Do your bit and believe in God that you would find favour when you go for your interview.

Cheers!



Msadesina:
Please on renewal after childbirth, if there's anyone who had successfully renewed after paying off part or all of the discount, please assist with the info. Cos it's starting to look like don't just bother wasting application fee if you had a baby on a discounted bill in the past

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Nobody: 6:40pm On Jan 13, 2020
Bluefin:

They won’t even send her back at the POE. The worst that can happen will happen upon renewal but if you are done having all your babies- one day they will renew for you even if they reject you. You are better off with your baby getting citizenship now and you not getting your visa than having your baby in Nigeria and still not getting a renewed visa.

You better don’t mind this people telling you to go and renew a visa that is still valid. If they deny you you have lost everything. I only wonder if they would have done the same thing or advised their sister or wide to do the same if they were in your situation.
Don't be so sure. They can send back at POE anybody.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by TWoods(m): 6:59pm On Jan 13, 2020
TheEnforcer:
Sometimes the embassy say they don't read the change of intent email. But the key is to pay her bills like you said.Circumstances can change after one gets the visa and the US embassy understands this.B2 can legally be used for medicals.Not an offence

The VOs have posted on Nairaland explicitly that they do not read the change of intent letter nor attach it to your file. This issue is no longer an issue of speculation.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by OmoBendel24: 7:16pm On Jan 13, 2020
TWoods:


The VOs have posted on Nairaland explicitly that they do not read the change of intent letter nor attach it to your file. This issue is no longer an issue of speculation.

Yes, but we did read here from people who got called in for interview after/for sending that letter, some were able to wriggle through the ensuing interview successfully, some had their visas cancelled (even husband's by extension were affected), some that didn't turn up at the Embassy couldn't fly with their visa, etc.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Beautyaddy: 7:22pm On Jan 13, 2020
TWoods:


The VOs have posted on Nairaland explicitly that they do not read the change of intent letter nor attach it to your file. This issue is no longer an issue of speculation.

By now you should have known that Nigerians are not that easy to convince to do the right thing once the mind is adamant to do what pleases them.

However, learning the hard way after being punished is how Nigerians learn.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by TWoods(m): 7:34pm On Jan 13, 2020
Beautyaddy:


By now you should have known that Nigerians are not that easy to convince to do the right thing once the mind is adamant to do what pleases them.

However, learning the hard way after being punished is how Nigerians learn.

Agreed. My concern is limited to the unsuspecting genuine travelers who increasingly have a harder time convincing VOs of genuine intent because of those who have gone ahead and ruined it for others. One has to learn very quickly that in Nigeria, the mantra is “me first, screw everyone else”.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by reneka955: 7:39pm On Jan 13, 2020
Mamajam:
Hello. I have successfully renewed my Visa after paying the discount I was given. If you enjoyed a discount, just call the hospital account department and tell them you want to pay the discount you were given. After paying the discount, ask for a new itemized bill. With your new itemized bill which shows you paid for your treatment in full, you can proceed to apply for renewal.

Another thing, which I believe is extremely important is also to pray for God's favour. Do your bit and believe in God that you would find favour when you go for your interview.

Cheers!




God have nothing to do with it, you were renewed because you paid in full.

Medical care is a big issue for Americans, how do you think they see it when foreigners come and receive discounts that they have to pay

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by chibertha(f): 8:27pm On Jan 13, 2020
word.

reneka955:


God have nothing to do with it, you were renewed because you paid in full.

Medical care is a big issue for Americans, how do you think they see it when foreigners come and receive discounts that they have to pay
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by OmoBendel24: 9:15pm On Jan 13, 2020
Culled from the Canada birthing thread

Mamajam:
Hello, it's a slightly long read. Please bear with me.

So I have been following this thread for about 9 weeks...right after I got the mail about the RHA letter.

Brief intro...I submitted my online application 13th September, did my biometrics 16th September, got the RHA Letter mail 11th November, made the required payments and sent my receipts and the letter 26th November. Till date, I'm yet to get a response. I have sent emails and filled the webform but nothing yet from the VOs.

On Tuesday 7th January, hubby and I were discussing other options, we were really considering Barbados because it's Visa free for Nigerians and I don't have time to waste waiting for a Visa (I'm starting my 35th week today).

Eventually, we decided on me renewing my American Visa. I have been quite averse to renewing my American Visa due to all the negative news one has been hearing about Visa denials due previous birth(s) in America. Also, hubby tried renewing his American Visa sometimes in November but he was denied after he presented my itemized bill. The VO was however kind enough to mention to him that what we paid was quite low for vaginal birth ($6.5k for OBGYN, Hospital and Epidural).

Hubby decided that we would pay back the discount the hospital gave us. I disagreed initially due to all the stories I had heard. I had concluded that once you have had baby in America, irrespective of the amount paid, kiss your Visa renewal bye until further notice. Eventually I agreed for him to pay the discount (still had no intention of renewing my American Visa as I believed I would get a positive response from the Canadian Visa request)

Cut the long story short, I applied for the B2 American Visa on Tuesday 7th January, got an interview date for today and my Visa request was granted.

The only document the VO asked to see was my itemized bill from my 1st delivery. Total payment made was about $14.5k after paying back the discount. After perusing my itemized bill and other receipts, he said I should go to pay the N40.7k reciprocity fee......and when I turned to leave, he said I should ensure I also pay my bill in full again.

It's worthy to note that asides from my itemized bill, I had my Dr. correspondence (using the same OBGYN I previously used so it was easy for her to send me a letter within 24 hours of contacting her) and I also had other supporting documents that could have been requested for.

Finally, for anyone on this thread who's interested in Birth tourism, I would highly recommend that you apply for an American Visa whilst waiting for a feedback on the Canadian request. Just have all the necessary documents when you go for your interview and pray for God's favour. I have been praying for favour and confessing positively since I submitted my application on Tuesday night. I believe God would grant us all our heart's desires.

Cheers

Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Otokini01: 9:40pm On Jan 13, 2020
Congrats pls was this in abuja today?

quote author=OmoBendel24 post=85771650]Culled from the Canada birthing thread

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by aliavalerie: 9:54pm On Jan 13, 2020
Hello Mamas in the house, please can anyone give me information on a doctor in Los Angeles ?
This will be highly appreciated.
Thank you
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Candybright: 10:01pm On Jan 13, 2020
Miriam88:
hello house pls i want to ask,2018 i got my visa, i was pregnant when i went for the interview and i declared i was going to have a baby, even my passport was stamped B2 at POE, now am pregnant again and want to use same visa cos its still valid do i need to write to the embassy again?
No you don't have to write no one
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Mamajam: 1:38am On Jan 14, 2020
God has everything to do with it!

First and most important, I would not have been able to make the payment in full if God didn't provide the source of income.

Also, there are people who go for their interviews and the VOs just outrightly deny their applications without asking questions.

So please keep your disbelief to yourself.

Thanks

reneka955:


God have nothing to do with it, you were renewed because you paid in full.

Medical care is a big issue for Americans, how do you think they see it when foreigners come and receive discounts that they have to pay

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Mamajam: 1:40am On Jan 14, 2020
No. In Lagos.

Thanks

Otokini01:
Congrats pls was this in abuja today?

quote author=OmoBendel24 post=85771650]Culled from the Canada birthing thread

Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by iykmon: 4:21am On Jan 14, 2020
This information is worth reading, we been reading denial denial for a while now. I think the US are trying to make money from us by making us do the right thing. i wish the hospital can put every cost without discount so that you are aware from the beginning.
I haven't renewed mine but i have commenced a process of making payment back to hospital to reduce my discount. Total amount charge was $13700 , i have paid up 9k. I hope to pay up the remaining or make up to 12k. It is a task i have to do if that is what will make me successful.

Mamajam:
Hello. I have successfully renewed my Visa after paying the discount I was given. If you enjoyed a discount, just call the hospital account department and tell them you want to pay the discount you were given. After paying the discount, ask for a new itemized bill. With your new itemized bill which shows you paid for your treatment in full, you can proceed to apply for renewal.

Another thing, which I believe is extremely important is also to pray for God's favour. Do your bit and believe in God that you would find favour when you go for your interview.

Cheers!



Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by blossom101: 5:28am On Jan 14, 2020
Miriam88:
hello house pls i want to ask,2018 i got my visa, i was pregnant when i went for the interview and i declared i was going to have a baby, even my passport was stamped B2 at POE, now am pregnant again and want to use same visa cos its still valid do i need to write to the embassy again?


You dont have to. Just travel with your previous receipts and enough cash to show for your second childbirth trip. I came in on Christmas day with a smooth poe at JFK. Although my cash wasn't check, just my previous Bill.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by dere5: 6:11am On Jan 14, 2020
iykmon:
This information is worth reading, we been reading denial denial for a while now. I think the US are trying to make money from us by making us do the right thing. i wish the hospital can put every cost without discount so that you are aware from the beginning.
I haven't renewed mine but i have commenced a process of making payment back to hospital to reduce my discount. Total amount charge was $13700 , i have paid up 9k. I hope to pay up the remaining or make up to 12k. It is a task i have to do if that is what will make me successful.


If you can pay 12k why not pay the whole $13,700 to be on the safe side
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by lami88: 9:25am On Jan 14, 2020
Okay. So on this issue of paying back discount to renew visa, what if you pay a part of the discount and not all. Will the visa be granted. Anyone with such experience. Or anyone paying back the discount on a payment plan? And tried to renew and the visa granted. I mean we have people with discounts of 15k, 18k, 20k bla bla. Where will one start from in paying back that one.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by amobola: 7:05pm On Jan 14, 2020
Good day house. I'd like to please clarify on this issue of discount. What I have on my hospital bill is 'self pay, no insurance system adjusted' . From $28,503 my bill was adjusted to $7,038 which I paid for C/S delivery in 2018. Is this the same as discount & if it is, does it mean I'll have to pay the adjusted value of $21,000+ before considering visa renewal? Kindly advise.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by lami88: 7:20pm On Jan 14, 2020
amobola:
Good day house. I'd like to please clarify on this issue of discount. What I have on my hospital bill is 'self pay, no insurance system adjusted' . From $28,503 my bill was adjusted to $7,038 which I paid for C/S delivery in 2018. Is this the same as discount & if it is, does it mean I'll have to pay the adjusted value of $21,000+ before considering visa renewal? Kindly advise.


This is what me too I'm asking o. Would paying a part of it suffix?. Or would having a payment plan suffix.
Or better still, one would just sit àt home and go somewhere else till America decides to come back to their senses.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by OmoBendel24: 8:57pm On Jan 14, 2020
lami88:



This is what me too I'm asking o. Would paying a part of it suffix?. Or would having a payment plan suffix.
Or better still, one would just sit àt home and go somewhere else till America decides to come back to their senses.

Lolz! That's actually a lot of difference to offset though. If the opportunity is there to make amends by way of more payment, I'd think getting it up to some 12-15k may make sense. Let's not forget that the previous 8-10k or less was out of pocket.... It's a long thing with the US visa ish for those that birthed previously in the US, so methinks. There isn't even any clearcut blueprint from the embassy on this. One would go pay another 2-5M Nigeria Naira and maybe get turned down thereafter, that'd be crazy you know.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Lankesolanke: 10:08pm On Jan 14, 2020
Hello Everyone,
Pls can someone provide me with a hospital that takes deposit..I will appreciate
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by stephye: 3:24am On Jan 15, 2020
Hey guys, I just came across this thread and must say I have gathered a whole lot of info, but would like to seek advise from the guys here. I got a b1/b2 visa last yr for the purpose of a business trip which I went for and returned to Nigeria after a few weeks. Now am thinking of going to birth with this visa, I reached out to my company and was asked to send a mail to the embassy to inform them but I got an automated response from the embassy. Am not sure to do now cos after reading this thread, it seems one stands a chance of your visa getting cancelled if you decide to apply for a medical visa which I wouldn't want cos I should be going on another business trip end of the year with this visa.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by OmoBendel24: 4:03am On Jan 15, 2020
I'm just thinking outside the box now. Do I have reason to be uncomfortable? I think so! I will pass, I won't touch....
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by chibertha(f): 5:50am On Jan 15, 2020
What you need is a doctor that will give you the cost of delivery which includes,
Doctors fees
Hospital fees for VB or CS (for well-baby and well mama)
etc
Make sure you have enough money to cover for the cost when you go for your interview or travel.

As for giving you hospital, use google to look for hospitals in your location of choice and start calling all of them

Lankesolanke:
Hello Everyone,
Pls can someone provide me with a hospital that takes deposit..I will appreciate

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Bcpump: 6:16am On Jan 15, 2020
stephye:
Hey guys, I just came across this thread and must say I have gathered a whole lot of info, but would like to seek advise from the guys here. I got a b1/b2 visa last yr for the purpose of a business trip which I went for and returned to Nigeria after a few weeks. Now am thinking of going to birth with this visa, I reached out to my company and was asked to send a mail to the embassy to inform them but I got an automated response from the embassy. Am not sure to do now cos after reading this thread, it seems one stands a chance of your visa getting cancelled if you decide to apply for a medical visa which I wouldn't want cos I should be going on another business trip end of the year with this visa.


You got an automated response because they have told us that change of intent does not work again. infact you sending it has put your details and info on alert for them.

Scroll back to the previous page and see the 4 options you have.
While i would subscribe to option 1 of reapplying for a B2 visa so that your mind is free especially as you have sent change of intent, option 3 seems the best except if you are sent back at the POE and not allowed in. But if you manage to scale POE, pls pay all your bills with no discount. don't accept self pay packages less then 10k. Then your chances at a renewal will be quite high. (not guaranteed but really really high).

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Lankesolanke: 7:17am On Jan 15, 2020
I know all this ,I just need a Hosp that takes deposit..thanks for the info!
chibertha:
What you need is a doctor that will give you the cost of delivery which includes,
Doctors fees
Hospital fees for VB or CS (for well-baby and well mama)
etc
Make sure you have enough money to cover for the cost when you go for your interview or travel.

As for giving you hospital, use google to look for hospitals in your location of choice and start calling all of them

Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by lami88: 9:00am On Jan 15, 2020
OmoBendel24:


Lolz! That's actually a lot of difference to offset though. If the opportunity is there to make amends by way of more payment, I'd think getting it up to some 12-15k may make sense. Let's not forget that the previous 8-10k or less was out of pocket.... It's a long thing with the US visa ish for those that birthed previously in the US, so methinks. There isn't even any clearcut blueprint from the embassy on this. One would go pay another 2-5M Nigeria Naira and maybe get turned down thereafter, that'd be crazy you know.

Exactly my thoughts. No clear cut blue print
We can only use other peoples experience as a guideline to what the embassy wants. Like you said, anyone with discounts who paid less than 10k can pay more getting it up to 10k or 12k plus, then try their luck with the embassy. If it works, then we can know whatsup. But to now that paying about 21k difference doesmt make any sense, all in a bit to renew a visa. I know people who are well travelled across thw globe and have never been to america before. Its not a do or die affair

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by cretin: 10:35am On Jan 15, 2020
Lankesolanke:
Hello Everyone,
Pls can someone provide me with a hospital that takes deposit..I will appreciate

emory hospital atlanta GA.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Brenda2020: 11:38am On Jan 15, 2020
My dear it seem so because i reached oakbend and they said i should pay the discounted bill of $19k plus if i want an itemised bill without discounts included. Thats after i paid $10,884 out of pocket for cs for my twins which includes hospital fee,doctor fee,nursery fee and anaesthetic

quote author=amobola post=85797393]Good day house. I'd like to please clarify on this issue of discount. What I have on my hospital bill is 'self pay, no insurance system adjusted' . From $28,503 my bill was adjusted to $7,038 which I paid for C/S delivery in 2018. Is this the same as discount & if it is, does it mean I'll have to pay the adjusted value of $21,000+ before considering visa renewal? Kindly advise.[/quote]
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by IlorinBoy1: 11:42am On Jan 15, 2020
Please is there any first-time momma that got visa approved late last year or this year in the house? Preferably Texas ( doctores para ti) I would like to learn from your experience (if you could post here: budget sheet etc.) or we can connect! Thanks.

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