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Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 8:48am On Jan 18, 2020
Hi guys,

3 weeks ago I recently purchased a Toks 2008 Lexus ES 350 from Lagos.
Upon arrival I noticed a slightly harsh 1-2 shift ( which was quite unusual for a U660E transmission, as I have driven many) amongst other minor nuances.

But my current worry now is that on a typical cold start, I noticed a quite serious 2-3 shift flare and 4-5 shift flare( which is even worse than the 2-3 flare), accompanied by the occasional 1-2 harsh shift. But after like 7 minutes of driving, the shift flare is gone( but the 1-2 harsh shift is still there).
Also noticeable is a harsh engagement into reverse from Neutral or park. Shifting from Drive to reverse and vice versa is quite smooth

So far I have not done anything to the transmission ( nothing has been touched)

No transmission code is present.

Pls help advise me on what to do because it is becoming a source of worry that the transmission may pack up soon

Gurus in the House:

Kashif
Kingreign
KINGreignn
Radautoworks
Honmusa
Autologic
Gazzuzz
Cardoctor
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 8:54am On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:
Hi guys,

3 weeks ago I recently purchased a Toks 2008 Lexus ES 350 from Lagos.
Upon arrival I noticed a slightly harsh 1-2 shift ( which was quite unusual for a U660E transmission, as I have driven many) amongst other minor nuances.

But my current worry now is that on a typical cold start, I noticed a quite serious 2-3 shift flare and 4-5 shift flare( which is even worse than the 2-3 flare), accompanied by the occasional 1-2 harsh shift. But after like 7 minutes of driving, the shift flare is gone( but the 1-2 harsh shift is still there).
Also noticeable is a harsh engagement into reverse from Neutral or park. Shifting from Drive to reverse and vice versa is quite smooth

So far I have not done anything to the transmission ( nothing has been touched)

No transmission code is present.

Pls help advise me on what to do because it is becoming a source of worry that the transmission may pack up soon

Gurus in the House:

Kashiff
Kingreignn
KINGreignn
Radautoworkss
Honmusaa
Autologicc
Gazzuzzz
Cardoctor
That gear is around 500k total cost.

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 8:59am On Jan 18, 2020
Smartchoiice:

That gear is around 500k total cost.
It is well. That is all I would say for now.
I have not enjoyed that car for one full day since it was bought
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 8:59am On Jan 18, 2020
Suggestions please
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 9:01am On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:

It is well. That is all I would say for now.
I have not enjoyed that car for one full day since it was bought
Amudimkpa
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 9:07am On Jan 18, 2020
Smartchoiice:

Amudimkpa
Be serious grin
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by thebigkendo(m): 9:31am On Jan 18, 2020
Iyam not understanding.. NO PPI before delivery?


Hmmm tok lexus es350 with transmission issue.. Rings a bell, but I can't pin point where tongue tongue tongue

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 9:43am On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:

Be serious grin
What's the colour?
Cc
Lateefat01
Legalwealth
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by radautoworks: 10:37am On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:
Hi guys,

3 weeks ago I recently purchased a Toks 2008 Lexus ES 350 from Lagos.
Upon arrival I noticed a slightly harsh 1-2 shift ( which was quite unusual for a U660E transmission, as I have driven many) amongst other minor nuances.

But my current worry now is that on a typical cold start, I noticed a quite serious 2-3 shift flare and 4-5 shift flare( which is even worse than the 2-3 flare), accompanied by the occasional 1-2 harsh shift. But after like 7 minutes of driving, the shift flare is gone( but the 1-2 harsh shift is still there).
Also noticeable is a harsh engagement into reverse from Neutral or park. Shifting from Drive to reverse and vice versa is quite smooth

So far I have not done anything to the transmission ( nothing has been touched)

No transmission code is present.

Pls help advise me on what to do because it is becoming a source of worry that the transmission may pack up soon

Gurus in the House:

Kashif
Kingreign
KINGreignn
Radautoworks
Honmusa
Autologic
Gazzuzz
Cardoctor

Best case, ECU programming. Worst case, you already know. Slim chance valve body or TCM. Was the car worked on before you bought it? If you can find out, what was the last thing worked on?

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by ORAGAMYFARMS(m): 10:49am On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:
Hi guys,

3 weeks ago I recently purchased a Toks 2008 Lexus ES 350 from Lagos.
Upon arrival I noticed a slightly harsh 1-2 shift ( which was quite unusual for a U660E transmission, as I have driven many) amongst other minor nuances.

But my current worry now is that on a typical cold start, I noticed a quite serious 2-3 shift flare and 4-5 shift flare( which is even worse than the 2-3 flare), accompanied by the occasional 1-2 harsh shift. But after like 7 minutes of driving, the shift flare is gone( but the 1-2 harsh shift is still there).
Also noticeable is a harsh engagement into reverse from Neutral or park. Shifting from Drive to reverse and vice versa is quite smooth

So far I have not done anything to the transmission ( nothing has been touched)

No transmission code is present.

Pls help advise me on what to do because it is becoming a source of worry that the transmission may pack up soon

Gurus in the House:

I would start from a VIN report

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by banky3w(m): 10:49am On Jan 18, 2020
Smartchoiice:

What's the colour?
Cc
Lateefat01
Legalwealth
Ain't you forgetting someone?
Here,
Cc engineerprosper

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Readonee35L(m): 10:50am On Jan 18, 2020
Is this a 2007 Es350?
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 10:50am On Jan 18, 2020
banky3w:

Ain't you forgetting someone?
Here,
Cc engineerprosper
Oh thanks.
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 12:05pm On Jan 18, 2020
radautoworks:


Best case, ECU programming. Worst case, you already know. Slim chance valve body or TCM. Was the car worked on before you bought it? If you can find out, what was the last thing worked on?
Chai

Actually I thought that it was most likely a valvebody problem. I have been reading recently that early model U660E transmission was notorious for having valvebody problems. The TCU however is another kettle of fish

I intend replacing the fluid today to see how it goes. Replacing the fluid it temperature dependent so I have to prepare for that
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 12:06pm On Jan 18, 2020
ORAGAMYFARMS:


I would start from a VIN report

Vin checked out perfectly
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 12:08pm On Jan 18, 2020
Smartchoiice:

What's the colour?
Cc
Lateefat01
Legalwealth

Colour has nothing to do.with this sir
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 12:08pm On Jan 18, 2020
thebigkendo:
Iyam not understanding.. NO PPI before delivery?


Hmmm tok lexus es350 with transmission issue.. Rings a bell, but I can't pin point where tongue tongue tongue

PPI was done
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 12:09pm On Jan 18, 2020
thebigkendo:
Iyam not understanding.. NO PPI before delivery?


Hmmm tok lexus es350 with transmission issue.. Rings a bell, but I can't pin point where tongue tongue tongue

PPI was done. But nothing beats you doing things yourself
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 12:10pm On Jan 18, 2020
Readonee35L:
Is this a 2007 Es350?

No.it is a 2008
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by KINGreignn: 12:38pm On Jan 18, 2020
Smartchoiice:

That gear is around 500k total cost.
Wrong, 350k
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Readonee35L(m): 12:38pm On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:


No.it is a 2008
Do an Oil Change first.
Check the condition of the atf.
Check the transmission sump too if it's pressed.
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by KINGreignn: 12:41pm On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:
Hi guys,

3 weeks ago I recently purchased a Toks 2008 Lexus ES 350 from Lagos.
Upon arrival I noticed a slightly harsh 1-2 shift ( which was quite unusual for a U660E transmission, as I have driven many) amongst other minor nuances.

But my current worry now is that on a typical cold start, I noticed a quite serious 2-3 shift flare and 4-5 shift flare( which is even worse than the 2-3 flare), accompanied by the occasional 1-2 harsh shift. But after like 7 minutes of driving, the shift flare is gone( but the 1-2 harsh shift is still there).
Also noticeable is a harsh engagement into reverse from Neutral or park. Shifting from Drive to reverse and vice versa is quite smooth

So far I have not done anything to the transmission ( nothing has been touched)

No transmission code is present.

Pls help advise me on what to do because it is becoming a source of worry that the transmission may pack up soon

Gurus in the House:

Kashif
Kingreign
KINGreignn
Radautoworks
Honmusa
Autologic
Gazzuzz
Cardoctor
Run a techstream on the car TCM pls, try to check for activities in the solenoids.
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by lateefat101: 12:49pm On Jan 18, 2020
Smartchoiice:

What's the colour?
Cc
Lateefat01
Legalwealth

Colour is black as reported by legalwealth

Not sure this is the lemon lexus es 350 OP bought.
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by lateefat101: 12:51pm On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:


No.it is a 2008

This confirms it not to be the lemon lexus except VIN says 2007 but car seller told OP that it is 2008 and he agreed.
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by thebigkendo(m): 2:14pm On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:


PPI was done. But nothing beats you doing things yourself

I agree with you man!!!

Have you spoken with the seller? What was his response?
Hope deal was not with a middleman..
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by diportivo: 2:47pm On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:


PPI was done. But nothing beats you doing things yourself




oga inception


u carry inspection job give quack?? shocked
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Readonee35L(m): 3:25pm On Jan 18, 2020
lateefat101:


This confirms it not to be the lemon lexus except VIN says 2007 but car seller told OP that it is 2008 and he agreed.
Guy. You never get sense like this.
So you are still carrying this matter on your head. As big as nigeria is. You seem to think a random 07 lexus is the one you had issues with in the past .

You need therapy

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Bizzyliss(m): 8:36pm On Jan 18, 2020
U no do test drive before u buy am?
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 8:38pm On Jan 18, 2020
Bizzyliss:
U no do test drive before u buy am?

Car was purchased in Lagos. I reside in Portharcourt
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Bizzyliss(m): 8:58pm On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:


Car was purchased in Lagos. I reside in Portharcourt
were u not the one that bought directly from lag
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 10:38pm On Jan 18, 2020
Bizzyliss:
were u not the one that bought directly from lag

No sir.Do you have any repair suggestions for me sir?
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by oilyngbati(m): 11:04pm On Jan 18, 2020
Inception:

Chai

Actually I thought that it was most likely a valvebody problem. I have been reading recently that early model U660E transmission was notorious for having valvebody problems. The TCU however is another kettle of fish

I intend replacing the fluid today to see how it goes. Replacing the fluid it temperature dependent so I have to prepare for that
I’ll advise you to seek for the original Toyota/Lexus automatic transmission fluid (ATF) before changing your transmission (gear box oil) fluid, as there abound fake oil in Nigeria. If you use any of these un recommended transmission fluid like ABRO, Oando e.t.c, it will make things worse.
When looking for transmission fluid, ask for original Toyota/Lexus Type IV. I wish I’m nigeria now, I’ll have sold you the original one I bought from Lexus dealership here in the U.S, as I have an extra 8-litres in my place.

Anyway, good luck and I hope you find the right fix. The ES is a great car if taken good care, as I own similar year as yours.

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