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Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by hotwax: 10:59pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
mumu people full everywhere...cheetah does not exists in rain forest, they are mostly in deserts. yorubas in the rain forest, an ideal habitat of a tiger... common sense..arun opolo... yorubas are known to over hunt wild life...tiger may have gone existing... they are many eulogies describing ekun as stronger than lion kiniun... can leopard be stronger than lion? 3 Likes |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by hotwax: 11:00pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
ItooWorWor: no...na ur motherland |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by macof(m): 11:00pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Xisnin: What you people who don't know anything about Yoruba Language and culture fail to realise is that Ẹkùn is a very important animal in Yorùbá traditions It's hide is worn by hunters and used to decorate sacred sites and palaces Some priests paint spots on their bodies like ekùn during certain rituals And these are consistent with the leopard not tiger (that has stripes and is not native to Africa) The word "Ẹkùn" is not new to Yoruba lexicon but the knowledge of the tiger is new to yorubas And speaking about Lion against the Leopard... Leopards are better survivors, they are essentially all rounders and yes a leopard can survive a fight with a lion But Yoruba ancient zoologist were not going around grading animals by who can beat who in a fight 1 Like |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Nobody: 11:01pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
AMOTEKUN2023: no alligators outside of north america, dumbass |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by nlPoster: 11:02pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
GeoAfrikana: They either saw a tiger during their travels or described them when they migrated to Africa/Nigeria. People are insisting tiger means Ekun but they refuse to explain where tigers were sighted in west Africa. |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by ItooWorWor(m): 11:02pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
hotwax:Wait am getting you, cause lokoja is part of Yorubaland |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by nlPoster: 11:03pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
macof: Even hyenas take on lions sometimes. |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Lallai: 11:04pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Over Sabi Yoruba's...u people better join ur heads now or will fail again..... na wuna betray we northern chistians sef. |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by nlPoster: 11:06pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Xisnin(m): 11:06pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
SonofDevil:You speak like those Americans who think Africa is a country. |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by godspeed: 11:09pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
einsteine: It's not that simple. First, you have to look at the origin of the Yoruba language and how it has developed over the centuries. No doubts, contact with foreigners either thru trade, slavery or colonialism would have had a large influence on the Yoruba language.( Much like the English language is heavily influenced by Latin and French) . That the yorubas never saw tigers does not mean they never heard about it or didn't at least get a description. Remember, one of the stories about oduduwa is that he came to Ife from Arabia haven fled the peninsula when Mohammad the prophet was ridding Arabia of idolaters, infact, oduduwa brought the IFA religion from Arabia. No doubts, oduduwa arrival in Ile Ife would have had an effect on the local language as a lot of new words would have been introduced into the Yoruba lexicon. So as regards' Ekun' , it could have been a borrowed word from oduduwa's language, or a coinage from the description of the animal as given to them by oduduwa. Remember, Arabia is neighbors with India, so the tiger will not be strange to them. BTW, amotekun means Leopard, cheetahs also not native to west Africa. |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Venerable612(m): 11:10pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Demzlent: Why do you have a name for God, Angels, the devil, Hell, ghosts and all the things you never saw or know? Or have you encountered each of them before? Your logic is flawed. People do use words intelligibly - whether they have experienced it or not. And I don’t agree with you that there never was Tigers in Africa. 1 Like |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by tmanuelle(m): 11:11pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Venerable612: Respect! You just delivered my speech |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Babalegba(m): 11:11pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
nlPoster:Okay I got it now lol |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by lollybee15(m): 11:12pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Demzlent:You are absolutely wrong. Amotekun is Leopard, period. |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by cbrass(m): 11:12pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
aywhy93: The OP is right Oga � the venerable guy knows absolutely nothing 1 Like |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Nobody: 11:13pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
TAO11: Owawa is the honey-badger. It's very wild though. It will literally eat your balls for breakfast if you slip up 1 Like |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by godspeed: 11:14pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Babalegba: But they definitely came from the middle East, probably from Arabia ( who are neighbors with India) at least this is one of the myths about oduduwa the progenitor of the yorubas |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Debaiz: 11:16pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
nlPoster: Yes every cat walks and stalks but only a tiger does it to hunt. They all have their MO Lions hunt in packs or alone with brute force. The least successful solo hunters Leopard lay in ambush either crouching or jumping on prey from trees. Cheetah does it by its speed before tripping their prey before going for the neck. Tiger is the only one that doesn’t chase its victims. They rather sneak up on their prey because their stripes disguise them in the thick savana jungles of Asia. They’re the most successful solo hunters. They hardly loose their prey cos before the prey knows a thing, they’re already too close. They may look basic but they’re quite different. |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by macof(m): 11:19pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Debaiz:I have never heard of lions killing leopards As far as I know they avoid each other just as the Yoruba saying which you mentioned goes "Kaka ki kiniun s’akapo EKUN, won a yaa s’ode won loto’to ni" Leopards are just as silent as the tiger in hunting Yoruba would not have been able to observe Tigers because tigers do not exist anywhere in Africa So all sayings about Ẹkùn refer and are consistent with the leopard |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Nobody: 11:20pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
macof: pound for pound, the leopard is the deadliest of the big cats. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Parablesonmarble: 11:21pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
BuhariLooter: You Northerners will cut them off in terms of funding?! Please, enlighten me, how much do you think the north contribute to the GDP of the present day Nigeria to be dictating who and who not to fund? This is to say you presume North will stay in power in a united Nigeria till infinity! You should start thinking all over again. Matter of lives and properties of the Westerners has nothing to do with your stupid restructuring, you parasitic worms. Our leaders can't stand akimbo allowing all forms of criminalities just because of the fear of how anyone would perceive their actions. Their inactions will never be rewarded. For your information, your dumb leader may succeed in proscribing ipob as a terrorist group now, while protecting the real terrorists, bandits,rapists and arsonists in the name of herdsmen but that won't be forever. Ipob is not a terrorist group. They only asked for self determination. Amotekun is here to stay. |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by cbrass(m): 11:23pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
awwfar: Bro.. Have you encountered Leopard before? you can be a feet close to a Leopard and you won't know. Bro Ekun is not an animal you mes with. Yoruba doesn't have a name for Tiger. This is just misconception that we have carried foe years, I used to think Ekun was Tiger before 2 Likes |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by walosky(m): 11:23pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
These my Afonja brothers can be confusing, disorganized and disoriented like these cables
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Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by supereagle(m): 11:24pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Funkybabee:I am confused. 1 Like |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by aywhy93(m): 11:25pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
cbrass: Do your research properly then come back and quote me. |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by macof(m): 11:26pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
neyobills: Your grandfather was probably saying the word "Ẹkùn" and Google translate made you think the Ẹkùn he was talking about is Tiger But no Yoruba hunter would find Tigers because Tigers don't live in our part of the world. I don't know what University you studied zoology that told you otherwise |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by nlPoster: 11:29pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Venerable612: Where did you see tigers in Africa? |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by GoodGovernance: 11:29pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
Correct pronunciation of ''Amotekun'' Àmọ̀tẹ́kùn – Leopard . do-do-mi-do Right from the beginning of Yoruba literature,Tiger had always been known as Ekun. Stop arguing with your ancestors. 1 Like |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by TAO11(f): 11:30pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
neyobills: I think you are very correct. It's possible that the general description of Chettah, Jaguar, Leopard, and Panthera as Amotekun could be because of their similar appearance. But Amotekun is definitely the proper specific name of one of them. Moreover, I just recollected now that I've heard the name Età being used for one of Cheetah and Leopard (I'm not sure which one now specifically). It was in an early 2000s Yoruba movie where the Babalowo was pointing to the hide of the animal (Cheetah or Leopard) and telling his client that that's the hide of Età and then adding the Yoruba proverb: Eta lo'n koko ta ki eranko 'mi too ta --- meaning: Età sells FIRST before any other animal sells. This proverb could help offer an insight to resolving which specifically is Età of Cheetah and other Amotekuns. And I will personally think that Età is the specific name for Cheetah from this Yoruba proverb considering that Cheetah comes FIRST in speed amongst all other animals. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by nlPoster: 11:30pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
walosky: Just dont mess with people's electricity and cables. 1 Like |
Re: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Nobody: 11:31pm On Jan 18, 2020 |
mhen so tiger cant be found in africa? |
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