Anyone who is gearing to oppose my perceived enemy is my temporal friend. Nnamdi Kanu - 2027

SLAP44:

Amotekun, the sieve to separate who is fulani and who is igbo. You have been identified according to your words.

None of my business but is dead on arrival here.

Your Agunweofia is just a mere figment of your Imagination.

ANSG already have a security working. No need for further duplication of functions and wasting of resources.

If you need Agunweofia tell your Governor to do that for you while others concentrate on development and not chasing shadows.


Not only Agunweofia.....also ekenweofia.

Ndi ara.

Osagyefo98:



None of my business but is dead on arrival here.

Your Agunweofia is just a mere figment of your Imagination.

ANSG already have a security working. No need for further duplication of functions and wasting of resources.

If you need Agunweofia tell your Governor to do that for you while others concentrate on development and not chasing shadows.


Not only Agunweofia.....also ekenweofia.

Ndi ara.

This dulani man, You are calling igbo people nd ara?

SLAP44:


This dulani man, You are calling igbo people nd ara?

Who and who are the Igbo people.

Are you more Igbo than me or do I like someone that aren't static like you that are moved by emotions and Jump into a bus without thinking.

Your strategy should be for future purposes not one nuisance called Amotekun.

Whosoever that needs Amotekun on regional level should first push for constitutional amendment, review and in the process referendum inserted and proper restructuring of the paper constitution.


You're just smart by half....Esu Mara Ife n'atu onu gboo...


SW knows the right thing to do if they need regional security if not let them revert to state legislation and develop state based security structure. Let them stop playing smart and whipping up sentiments.

I just decided to reply you fairly today if not you should know how my reply do come.


Seriously IPOB has really washed many people off their thinking faculty and now they behaving like Ndi mgbu.

Every state should please develop their own security architecture and stop looking for who to drag down or back and forth with.

This boy called slap44 should establish his okenweofia in his state and stop disturbing our peace here all the time.

Every state is an Independent unit.

SE is just for political recognition or zone and not necessarily a region.

Ipob must go

Osagyefo98:
Every state should please develop their own security architecture and stop looking for who to drag down or back and forth with.

This boy called slap44 should establish his okenweofia in his state and stop disturbing our peace here all the time.

Every state is an Independent unit.

SE is just for political recognition or zone and not necessarily a region.

Every state should bla bla bla , that was the reasoning behind cutting igboland up into states so that they can separate us from our brothers, Murtala mohammend tactics is what you are openly preaching to Igbos?

Do you think you can preach same divisive logic without giving yourself up as a fulani man speaking in Igbo because you have lived here all your life in Onitsha?

You can only fool yourself.

FuckBots:
Ipob must go

Yeah, they must go and form an independent Biafran country.

SLAP44:


Every state should bla bla bla , that was the reasoning behind cutting igboland up into states so that they can separate us from our brothers, Murtala mohammend tactics is what you are openly preaching to Igbos?

Do you think you can preach same divisive logic without giving yourself up as a fulani man speaking in Igbo because you have lived here all your life in Onitsha?

You can only fool yourself.

Very pathetic.

Wherever you find yourself today is your state independent of the other.

Anybody against you guys timid logic and pull down syndrome is either an afonja or a fulani man.....Petty.


Willie Obiano already has a working security outfit and you want same govt to start shouting operation ekenweofia.....who does that?

Anambra has adopted her own long time security measure and have other issues to look at. Those who has no standing security architecture can co-habit and start it off.


Everybody mustn't do same thing Biko this boy.

What you want is not what I want and not want ANSG wants. So look for other places to cry and not here.


There are other pressing issues to look at and not any nonsense Agunweofia wurukwa ekenweofia...Lolzzz.

SLAP44:

Yeah, they must go and former an independent Biafran country.

Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

FuckBots:
Ipob must go

So those who aren't Ipob won't go?

Osagyefo98:


Very pathetic.

Wherever you find yourself today is your state independent of the other.

Anybody against you guys timid logic and pull down syndrome is either an afonja or a fulani man.....Petty.


Willie Obiano already has a working security outfit and you want same govt to start shouting operation ekenweofia.....who does that?

Anambra has adopted her own long time security measure and have other issues to look at. Those who has no standing security architecture can co-habit and start it off.


Everybody mustn't do same thing Biko this boy.

What you want is not what I want and not want ANSG wants. So look for other places to cry and not here.


There are other pressing issues to look at and not any nonsense Agunweofia wurukwa ekenweofia...Lolzzz.

Miyetti spokesman.

SLAP44:


Miyetti spokesman.

Stop trying to drag us back.

Firstly even an Igbo party APGA una no dey but will be shouting Igbo up and down.

You will vote pdp at day and night and will come and tell nke a bu nkeanyi (APGA) what to do.

Who does that?

Igbo beats....


let us enjoy our artist.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRiJc44yGU0

ckenneths:
Igboland amaka

The fool has been removed for good.

Obi1kenobi

They don't have to liaise with other regions and alert the FG to their machinations. On the contrary, their rollout was genius and didn't give the FG much time to react. They've simply trusted that the popular will of Nigerians would back them. So all principled people have no reason not to back them. Your reason for saying we shouldn't back them is based on some political calculation whose ends are unclear

Exactly. They don't have to liase with anyone else, just as Ndiigbo don't have to liase with them.
You are simply not making much sense here. Now they have rushed to declare Amotekun, will it still stand without FG approval? Answer is No. If they do anyhow, the Police and Army will round up those poorly fed boys they are risking their lives, and lock them up. End of story.
Amotekun will not take off without FG sanctioning it, because they are supposed to hand law breakers to the police who are controlled by the FG.
The people backing them on social media will only offer emotional support. It will not change anything, which remains that Amotekun remains against the Nigerian law if the FG insists on it being so.
You are simply offering credits where none exists.

Your comparisons with Niger Delta militants is a poor one. The Niger Delta hosts our oil infrastructure and the economic sabotage by the militants crippled our economy and forced the FG to the negotiating table. That is massive leverage to have. Amotekun doesn't hold anybody hostage to anything. It doesn't affect the life of anybody in Kano or Sokoto or Borno. Those in the North upset by it are control freaks who see Nigeria as conquered territory and want their national security hegemony unchallenged. How this is supposed to improve Yoruba bargaining position in their quest for power is something you haven't made clear. Also, if such confrontation is supposed to improve one's bargaining power, then why have the activities of IPOB only succeeded in further alienating Igbos from political consideration? You say it is because the Igbo political elites weren't in control of IPOB, but Niger Delta politicians weren't in any greater control either of the Niger Delta militant groups. The failure of IPOB's agitations is simply because the SE has little leverage over the country. Other than being rude and insolent to the powers that be, nobody of consequence in any Nigerian seat of power outside the SE would be swayed by anything IPOB does, cos they have zero leverage.

Amotekun will improve Yoruba political positioning the same way the Abiola fiasco did.
It will heat up the polity and present Yorubas as Fighters for democracy who the caliphate will have to compensate yet again, to regain control.
It does not in anyway alienate them.
IPOB agitations by no means alienated Igbos in Nigeria, if anything, it put the spotlight on the Igbo, the caliphate were rattled then and Ohaneze and Igbo political elites were at that moment all consulted for possible solutions.

The failure of IPOB is the fact that NK does not know when to withdraw at the right time and let the polity cool off without undoing work already done.
The Yorubas are better at that, like someone already noted. Just watch how this Amotekun brouhaha will slowly peter out after reaching a crescendo.

Also, contrary to your deep cynicism, I don't believe Yorubas are making all these sinister calculations you're claiming and I don't believe they'll be retreating from their position on Amotekun, except it is defeated in the courts. Either way, it would not make one bit of difference to Ndigbo if they do. It is still in our interest to support any measure from any group in the country (SW, SS, Middle Belt or wherever) because this helps our own agitations by:

On the contrary, my position is based on Yoruba past antecedents, while yours is based on emotionalism and wishful thinking. Humans are animals of habit, a leopard hardly changes its spots.
Of course, Yorubas know that Amotekun will be struck out by the court as our constitution have no room for such parallel security guard on regional level. The geopolitical zones are not even constitutional. If Yorubas are serious about Amotekun, they know where the real war lies, and that is in the National Assembly. But they are not interested in such, Amotekun is all about rabblerousing, so predictably, it will reach a crescendo, leading to civil unrest, street protests by Yoruba civil groups and loss of lives in SW, with Yorubas posturing themselves as defenders of Nigerian unity, then it will slowly burn out out at the law court.
And when it's all done and dusted, Amotekun will not stand, but the Yoruba elites would have achieved their aim.

1) And we keep going round and round with this: that your agitation doesn't exist in a vacuum and involves a struggle against external factors against whom you'll need allies. Other groups cannot "go to hell" because we need the help of other groups. I've asked you severally how you intend to accomplish your objectives of Biafran nationhood and you really haven't given any cogent response to that. I want to hear how you're going to do it by telling other groups to "go to hell".
I have a long list of problems with Nnamdi Kanu, but his aspirations for an inclusive, diverse Biafra incorporating a few Igboid and non-Igbo groups is the least of them. It's not compulsory for a successful nation to be a homogeneous one. Very few nations on earth are homogeneous. On the contrary, I firmly believe a Biafra without either one or both of current Delta and Rivers States to open it up to the sea is one destined for serious economic pain. But that's an argument for another day.

We need the help of other groups, not allowing them use us to achieve their selfish interests.

If Yorubas want regional autonomy. Nigeria is supposedly a democratic society. Let Yoruba law makers in the NASS promote and sponsor such bill.
Then we can push the SE law makers to support it.
This is how we know they can be helpful to our own cause, not some media razzmatazz and din all aimed at power grab.
Buhari denied them power positions and treat their VP like a housemaid, they fought back using their Lagos-Ibadan newspapers and media propaganda machine. Buhari dusted it off like water off the back of a duck, now they came up with this particular agenda to hit up the polity.
This has all the making of a used and scorned woman fighting back.

Not all of us are that naive. They should try harder.

2) Buhari and APC ran on a platform of "restructuring" in 2015 and made it more central to their campaign than GEJ who spent 6 years in power paying the occasional lip service to it and squandering money on a useless confab to keep up appearances rather than sponsoring serious constitutional reform. Yes, Buhari got in power and betrayed that agenda because Northerners are the only vocal opponents to restructuring in Nigeria. But the SW has never been any less committed to restructuring than the SE. The average Yoruba man on the street is no less committed to devolution of power from the center than an Igbo man. This may be betrayed by their elites in their quest for power, but it is no different from our own political elites. Whether SE, SW, SS or wherever, we're all betrayed by the selfish personal ambitions of our elite, so maybe don't portray it as a Yoruba thing. Tinubu's political machinery which was in opposition since '99 helped carry Buhari to power and they expect to reap the benefits when Buhari steps down by putting one of their own in power. This is their main political aspiration and everything else comes second. So let's stop this self-deception: our political elites would make the exact same calculation as Yorubas if the Presidency was open to them. We're not morally superior because we chose Atiku over Buhari, or GEJ over Buhari. I'm weary of political arguments that frame political disputes as some struggle of good vs evil where we're the ones with honest motives and our adversaries have nothing but deceptive motives.
Your narrative about Awolowo, Ojukwu and co is the Igbo propagandist version. A Yoruba propagandist will tell you Awolowo was far more committed to regionalism than Zik and would tell you Ironsi's Decree 34 which repealed the country's federal structure for a unitary one set the foundation for the current state of Nigeria's unworkable governing structure. So once again, maybe don't lay too much emphasis on the actions of ambitious elites to demonize the motives of an entire tribe with one-sided narratives.

Oh, and just curious: what resistance did Stella Oduah meet at the hands of Yorubas for Enugu airport (where she did a shabby job)

Where is the evidence of Yoruba being in support of restructuring? Buhari never promised restructuring, it was SW who knew the man is sectional , that was running the propaganda of Buhari being for restructuring. Buhari had on past occasions reteirated his desire to spread Sharia in Nigeria even before 2015 and these were all captured in magazines and newspapers that were well shown to all before 2015 elections, yet hate and selfish interests appealed more to them.
GEJ took years to enact reforms, but the Confab was a step in the right direction. At least we knew he was not against restructuring, just lacked the political will because he had his eyes set on re election and felt he needed core Northern votes which embracing restructuring would scuttle for him.
And when it was obvious Buhari was anti restructuring in 2019, didn't SW back him again for sectional( Osibanjo VP slot) interests?

Ironsi was not able to dissolve the regions before he died. So the region remained intact.
It was Awolowo who hitherto was preaching regionalism, that helped Gowon centralize the government and divided the regions into current states in exchange for a position in Gowon government as a defacto prime minister and then the windfall that followed after the Indigenization policy allowed Awolowo and Yoruba elites capture the entire foreign companies in Nigeria.

This is not an Igbo propaganda, this is history. In Aburi negotiations, all the Four regions were represented, how could that be if Ironsi destroyed the regions? It was never Ironsi who dissolved the regions, it was Gowon who did so, he did it with active support of Awolowo.

I understand you live in SW and have Yoruba friends and you are not discerning enough to sieve out their real motives. You will not be the first Igbo man to be fooled by Yoruba friends and colleagues. Ojukwu trust in his Yoruba friends (Awolowo, Aluko, Banjo) were also part of the reason for his poor judgement of issues at hand then, which proved costly and eventually cost us the war.

On Stella. It's no secret that Yorubas fought tooth and nail against Enugu international airport status. Though that's a whole different topic of its own.

letusbepieces:


Are u from Bini or Idu, as an Ukwuani girl?

My origin is of no relation to the topic of the thread. Let's stick to that.

pazienza:
Obi1kenobi



Exactly. They don't have to liase with anyone else, just as Ndiigbo don't have to liase with them.
You are simply not making much sense here. Now they have rushed to declare Amotekun, will it still stand without FG approval? Answer is No. If they do anyhow, the Police and Army will round up those poorly fed boys they are risking their lives, and lock them up. End of story.
Amotekun will not take off without FG sanctioning it, because they are supposed to hand law breakers to the police who are controlled by the FG.
The people backing them on social media will only offer emotional support. It will not change anything, which remains that Amotekun remains against the Nigerian law if the FG insists on it being so.
You are simply offering credits where none exists.



Amotekun will improve Yoruba political positioning the same way the Abiola fiasco did.
It will heat up the polity and present Yorubas as Fighters for democracy who the caliphate will have to compensate yet again, to regain control.
It does not in anyway alienate them.
IPOB agitations by no means alienated Igbos in Nigeria, if anything, it put the spotlight on the Igbo, the caliphate were rattled then and Ohaneze and Igbo political elites were at that moment all consulted for possible solutions.

The failure of IPOB is the fact that NK does not know when to withdraw at the right time and let the polity cool off without undoing work already done.
The Yorubas are better at that, like someone already noted. Just watch how this Amotekun brouhaha will slowly peter out after reaching a crescendo.




On the contrary, my position is based on Yoruba past antecedents, while yours is based on emotionalism and wishful thinking. Humans are animals of habit, a leopard hardly changes its spots.
Of course, Yorubas know that Amotekun will be struck out by the court as our constitution have no room for such parallel security guard on regional level. The geopolitical zones are not even constitutional. If Yorubas are serious about Amotekun, they know where the real war lies, and that is in the National Assembly. But they are not interested in such, Amotekun is all about rabblerousing, so predictably, it will reach a crescendo, leading to civil unrest, street protests by Yoruba civil groups and loss of lives in SW, with Yorubas posturing themselves as defenders of Nigerian unity, then it will slowly burn out out at the law court.
And when it's all done and dusted, Amotekun will not stand, but the Yoruba elites would have achieved their aim.




We need the help of other groups, not allowing them use us to achieve their selfish interests.

If Yorubas want regional autonomy. Nigeria is supposedly a democratic society. Let Yoruba law makers in the NASS promote and sponsor such bill.
Then we can push the SE law makers to support it.
This is how we know they can be helpful to our own cause, not some media razzmatazz and din all aimed at power grab.
Buhari denied them power positions and treat their VP like a housemaid, they fought back using their Lagos-Ibadan newspapers and media propaganda machine. Buhari dusted it off like water off the back of a duck, now they came up with this particular agenda to hit up the polity.
This has all the making of a used and scorned woman fighting back.

Not all of us are that naive. They should try harder.




Where is the evidence of Yoruba being in support of restructuring? Buhari never promised restructuring, it was SW who knew the man is sectional , that was running the propaganda of Buhari being for restructuring. Buhari had on past occasions reteirated his desire to spread Sharia in Nigeria even before 2015 and these were all captured in magazines and newspapers that were well shown to all before 2015 elections, yet hate and selfish interests appealed more to them.
GEJ took years to enact reforms, but the Confab was a step in the right direction. At least we knew he was not against restructuring, just lacked the political will because he had his eyes set on re election and felt he needed core Northern votes which embracing restructuring would scuttle for him.
And when it was obvious Buhari was anti restructuring in 2019, didn't SW back him again for sectional( Osibanjo VP slot) interests?

Ironsi was not able to dissolve the regions before he died. So the region remained intact.
It was Awolowo who hitherto was preaching regionalism, that helped Gowon centralize the government and divided the regions into current states in exchange for a position in Gowon government as a defacto prime minister and then the windfall that followed after the Indigenization policy allowed Awolowo and Yoruba elites capture the entire foreign companies in Nigeria.

This is not an Igbo propaganda, this is history. In Aburi negotiations, all the Four regions were represented, how could that be if Ironsi destroyed the regions? It was never Ironsi who dissolved the regions, it was Gowon who did so, he did it with active support of Awolowo.

I understand you live in SW and have Yoruba friends and you are not discerning enough to sieve out their real motives. You will not be the first Igbo man to be fooled by Yoruba friends and colleagues. Ojukwu trust in his Yoruba friends (Awolowo, Aluko, Banjo) were also part of the reason for his poor judgement of issues at hand then, which proved costly and eventually cost us the war.

On Stella. It's no secret that Yorubas fought tooth and nail against Enugu international airport status. Though that's a whole different topic of its own.

The way you you dedicate your time and type this volume of words intrigues me, well done, but are you actually paid to type this much nonsense or you inherited this high level of tomfoolery?

Seriously am impressed by your doggedness to push fulani agenda while trying to sound like a southerner. It's either you acquired this subterfuge by training, or you are very old and got it by bitter experience

pazienza:
Obi1kenobi


I understand you live in SW and have Yoruba friends and you are not discerning enough to sieve out their real motives. You will not be the first Igbo man to be fooled by Yoruba friends and colleagues. Ojukwu trust in his Yoruba friends (Awolowo, Aluko, Banjo) were also part of the reason for his poor judgement of issues at hand then, which proved costly and eventually cost us the war.

On Stella. It's no secret that Yorubas fought tooth and nail against Enugu international airport status. Though that's a whole different topic of its own.

Hold it right there pally

This is the same way you typed whole textbooks herein the past to prove to us that Igbo people must separate themselves from all other Igbo speaking areas because they are hostile.

Now your preoccupation is to slash any Igbo alliance with Yorubas because it will hurt your ethnic agenda as a northerner?

Not all of us are as naive as you think pal

Osagyefo98:
Every state should please develop their own security architecture and stop looking for who to drag down or back and forth with.

This boy called slap44 should establish his okenweofia in his state and stop disturbing our peace here all the time.

Every state is an Independent unit.

SE is just for political recognition or zone and not necessarily a region.

SE is a region. In fact it's more than a region. It's a nation. States in Nigeria are nothing but dysfunctional entities created my military men led by Gowon.

pazienza:


SE is a region. In fact it's more than a region. It's a nation. States in Nigeria are nothing but dysfunctional entities created my military men led by Gowon.

Regional Government was dismantled since 1967.

SE is a political zone.

Let's always separate facts from fiction.

SLAP44:
[s]

Hold it right there pally

This is the same way you typed whole textbooks herein the past to prove to us that Igbo people must separate themselves from all other Igbo speaking areas because they are hostile.

Now your preoccupation is to slash any Igbo alliance with Yorubas because it will hurt your ethnic agenda as a northerner?

Not all of us are as naive as you think pal[/s]

As far as I know, your Igboness is in doubt. Anyone can masquerade as Igbo to fool people. No one is forcing you not to join the 1 million IPOB volunteers that would be used as target practice for Yoruba political gains. You won't be the first, neither would you be the last. After all some naive Igbo's got the reality check after being used and dumped for June 12.
If you did not receive sense after Python dance you'll never receive sense after Amotekun fiasco. But please don't drag ignorant Igbo youths to their demise. You and Nnamdi Kanu should come back home and lead the volunteers.

SLAP44:


Hold it right there pally

This is the same way you typed whole textbooks herein the past to prove to us that Igbo people must separate themselves from all other Igbo speaking areas because they are hostile.

Now your preoccupation is to slash any Igbo alliance with Yorubas because it will hurt your ethnic agenda as a northerner?

Not all of us are as naive as you think pal

You should at least run a background check through my past posts on NL to know who I am and what I represent.
I acknowledge the fact that we have many Arewa impostors on this thread who as you have rightly noticed are fluent in Igbo and Igbo proverbs because of long stay in Igboland, yet through their posts, you can clearly see what they represent as they all dread Igbo unity project and would rather see us divided so that we can ease up their exploitation of us. Many of them have chosen Anambra as their mask. You must not mistake me for them. They naturally don't want Amotekun to stand because of their obvious economic interests( grazing) in Southern Nigeria. You must also know that I'm not against Amotekun. I just don't think it's what Yorubas are saying it is, I don't want Ndigbo falling prey to the usual Yoruba treacherous ways.
I will be back to raise salient points on this and more.

Osagyefo98:


Regional Government was dismantled since 1967.

SE is a political zone.

Let's always separate facts from fiction.

Yes! It's a geopolitical zone. It's also an Igbo zone.

pazienza:


SE is a region. In fact it's more than a region. It's a nation. States in Nigeria are nothing but dysfunctional entities created my military men led by Gowon.

Your phantom idea of Igbo unity only exist in your mind ,and you will go to your grave with it because it will never happen . The people did not want to be together and wanted those states created . so whats your point? Even today some still want new states.

Igbos are people who use to be wise, and Igbos are still wise till today. We have never been a foolish race.

1. Fulani herdsmen issue has been a constant issue in Nigeria for decades now.
In Yoruba land, it climaxed with the kidnap of Olu Falae by Fulani herdsmen in 2017.
It is well known that Buhari is a member or at least sympathetic to Miyetti Allah and have always defended the Herdsmen, yet Buhari was actively supported for re election in 2017 by Yoruba elites and commoners, because Osibanjo VP position, and their fear that the alternative (Atiku) would mean losing the VP to Ndiigbo and most importantly, the promise of a Yoruba president after Buhari tenure expiration in 2023.
We all witnessed the disgrace Igbo voters were subjected under by Tinubu Yoruba boys in Lagos all in bid to secure Buhari re election.

2. Fast forward to post Elections, Buhari and North has as expected started showing signs of not having any plans of handing over to Yorubas, they have started moving their pawns all over the political chess board to render Tinubu neutralized. Their last big move was the sacking of Tinubu men from strategic positions and continuous humiliation of Osibanjo.


3. Then suddenly, the SW Lagos-Ibadan media propaganda machine remembered that Buhari is a dictator running a sectional government of the North for the North. They fought back using their newspapers.
Buhari easily weathered the storm. They were probably expecting Buhari to take the bait by clamping down on those media houses in Rambo style and arrest the Yoruba propaganda spinners therein, so that they can all start calumny campaign against Buhari with public sympathy . They would have likely started streets protests and all. Where Buhari will be painted as the villain and Yorubas the voltron of democracy and freedom of speech.
Buhari and his handlers read the script well and refused to take the bait.

4. The SW intelligentsia now decided to take the fight to the street by involving the commoners, rallying them against the FG using the Herdsman menace as good veneer.
They are spurring for a confrontation with the FG, and I believe they will get it this time around.


You have to ask yourself, what are Fulani herdsmen doing now in SW that they have not been doing since past ten years or more, yet FG(Buhari) support remained strong in SW.

How convenient is it that this whole fight and confrontations against FG is coming from the Yorubas just few weeks after it became apparent the North has no plans of handing power over to Yorubas and sent them this message by sacking those Tinubu men from their positions of relevance?

Onye aghogbu ka agba! Ndi Igbo, mulu ako.
We have alot to gain from staying totally clear of Amotekun. It's not even like Yorubas are soliciting for our support, they know how tactless some of us can be and so expect us to run to support Amotekun without them even soliciting for such. This will in future give them leverage to manipulate narratives when funny Igbos will start accusing them of betrayal by the time they as expected suddenly drop the Amotekun agenda, leaving those supporting them now hung and dry.

Ishilove:

My origin is of no relation to the topic of the thread. Let's stick to that.

Confused people need to be clear on the difference between Idu and Bini.

Bini is Ile Ife, Idu is Igodomigodo.

Which one are u?

Go to this page and watch the video.

https://www.nairaland.com/4463989/pan-igbo-political-economic-forum/628

Grogott3:
Your phantom idea of Igbo unity only exist in your mind ,and you will go to your grave with it because it will never happen . The people did not want to be together and wanted those states created . so whats your point? Even today some still want new states.

And you have to log into this your particular moniker to pass across this message?

Igbos want more states because we want more FG allocations, because we noticed that more states mean more allocations.
Not because we don't want to be together.

Even as Igbo nationalist as I am, if given option, I would have Igboland divided into 100 states as long as FG will keep the money coming in. Don't get it twisted.

Wen Oba of Bini went to try and deceive the people of Rivers that they are from Bini.

Wike cleverly replied we are not Oduduwa that fell from the sky. 32:10

Oba of bini is Oduduwa son.

It is important to differentiate Bini from Idu.

Bini displaced Idu with war and drove everybody away.


If u say Bini, it means Yoruba. cc ishilove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWlkY5rvkLQ

pazienza:

Your excuse is stvpid. You said military and Gowon created states to divide Igbo. The people asked for the states to be created and there'll never be reunification. They don't want to be together,allocation or no allocation . you need to get that into your thick stubborn skull. Some northern states are larger than Igboland. Oyo state is larger than Igboland and those people have never asked for new states. Ikwerre ,Ukwuni,Ika,etc say they're not igbo. Ngwa claim a distinct ethnic group. Meanwhile, even Itshekiri don't deny being part of of Yorubaland . Even Edo agrees to be part of Yoruba land if Nigeria split.
What other moniker did you create for me to log in with ? You clowns need to understand that everyone can create account and comment whenever and whatever they like . who says a person must have had account for 10 years before being able to comment? people create account everyday ,so ?
You can like your own post with your numerous monikers but doesn't change the reality.

Grogott3:
Your excuse is stvpid. You said the military,especially Gowon created states to divide Igbo. The people asked for the states to be created and there'll never be reunification. They don't want to be together . you need to get that into your thick stubborn skull. some northern states are larger than igboland. Oyo state is larger than igbo land and those people have never asked for new state.
What other moniker did you create for me to log in with ? You clowns need to understand that everyone can create account and comment whenever and whatever they like . who says a person must have had account for 10 years before being able to comment? people create account everyday ,so ?

You need a brain surgery. If not you will know that the civil war was essentially Igbos rejecting the division of Eastern region into useless states by Gowon and Awolowo.
No Igbo person ever asked for Igboland division.
We are only asking for more states now because we know states in Nigeria are useless. They serve no purpose other than to determine who gets more allocations from FG, and we as expected want more allocations, hence our agitations for more states.
Biafra was not a monolithic entity, it was also divided into provinces which were actually functional states. Eastern region was divided into functional divisions as well. So we are well aware of need for natural clan based functional partitions to avoid tensions and allow healthy competitions amongst constituent Igbo clans,but this is not the same as our demand for more dysfunctional Nigerian states.

Who cares about Oyo land mass? Congo DR is 20 times bigger than Belgium, Netherlands and many other countries. California is 20 times bigger than Vermont.
One moment you misconstrued our demand for more states as a sign of disunity. But immediately you were disproved, you shifted goal post to why you will not give Igbos more states.

pazienza:
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The Crux of the matter is that we don't know what Amotekun is all about other than what Yorubas are claiming that it is in public.
If Yorubas wanted other regions support in pushing Amotekun, common sense dictates that they should have liased with other regions during the planning stage before coming public with this. But that hasn't happened.
On the contrary, violence or confrontations with the Power that be in Abuja has always been a bargaining chip for power blocs in Southern Nigeria. The Yorubas rallied behind the Abiola fiasco to make claim to power in 1999, the South South wielded economic sabotage of Abuja petrodollars via pipeline vandalism and kidnapping of foreign oil workers to press home the need for them to be appeased by Abuja, which eventually led to VP for GEJ in 2007. Infact, many SE politicians were hoping to use IPOB as a bargaining chip as well in the heat of those moments, before it became obvious they were not in control of Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB and the game was up, leading to the proscription of IPOB by SE governors. Confrontation and not peace and dialogue, has always been a veritable tool of power grab in Nigeria

Already the North understands the game Yorubas are playing and had given them a hint with recent message by Miyyeti Allah suggesting that Yorubas would have to drop Amotekun if they still want 2023 presidency. This is exactly what Yorubas want to hear, and I can only imagine them pushing the North harder in coming weeks.




I have no issues with Yoruba elites forming Amotekun or whatever. I don't even want to care.
We have similar sorts of vigilantes in SE. Anambra in particular. If you live in Anambra, you will always see them.
It is not a must for us to support Amotekun or whatsoever Yorubas are up to. It's their headache, not Ours. You attempt at trying to armtwist Ndiigbo into lending support to a Yoruba agenda is at best disrespectful.



1. As a Biafran it is my belief that in everything Ndiigbo do, Igbo interests must come first, and if protecting Igbo interests means another group going to hell, then so be it.
I am not a fan of NK, ever since I noticed his organization are bereft of any direction or strategic thinking. His version of Biafra is the one that care less about Igbo interests but more about the interests of groups he hopes to co opt into his utopic multiethnic Biafra. I'm not surprised that NK endorsed and is campaigning for Amotekun. Igbo lives and interests I have since concluded mean nothing to him. I learnt he is offering thousands of Igbo youths to serve in Amotekun. I hope he offers his own brothers, cousins and kinsmen for such insanity and not precious Igbo youths. NK has never been or claimed to be an Igbo nationalist, I have nothing in common with him.

2. You should ask yourself, do Yorubas really want regional autonomy for everyone? If they do, how come Buhari whose anti regional stance on issues became a hero in Yoruba land, while GEJ who organized a National conference and if allowed to continue could have implemented many aspects of the resolutions reached on the conference that could have led to a certain degree of decentralisation of power was vilified by them . In liberal PDP and GEJ, we had an opportunity to slowly decentralize the FG powers, but the Yorubas would rather have a dictator who is anti decentralisation in power, if it means they get to share power with the dictator or get crumbs.
They also had the opportunity to right whatever wrong they did in 2015, by voting in a more liberal Atiku. But for promise of VP and presidency post Buhari, they once again jumped on Buhari train.
This isn't the first time either. In 1967 when Ojukwu was arguing for Confederation, it was Awolowo and Yoruba intelligentsia who rather than support that, decided to jump on Gowon boat. It was with Yoruba support that Gowon dissolved the regions , created the states , and centralized power in Nigeria, same thing Ironsi was killed for attempting.

Yorubas chant regionalism always, yet at any given point in time they had the option to sacrifice selfish interests to get regionalism, they chose the selfish interests and left those on the other side to burn. I also wonder what regionalism means to Yorubas, considering the resistance Oduah met at the hands of Yorubas, when she and GEJ made Enugu international airport. It would appear to me that Yorubas want a sort of arrangement where Lagos will retain it's current air and sea monopoly on the country, while allowing them to fully control the revenue from the sea and air gateway of Nigeria, without having the FG control them or share the revenue from them with the rest of the country.
They also want to have untamed control on who. Stays or leaves their region amongst other things. Strictly speaking, they want to eat their cake and still have it .

My strategy to get Biafra? well, it includes alot of things I can't list here, but it clearly doesn't involve repeating Igbo mistakes of yesteryears.
It involves building the Igbo political unity strong first and foremost , staying clear of things that are none of our business, things that only serve as distractions that dissipate our energy, without serving our own interests, which this Amotekun fully represents.

Not all homo sapiens in Nigeria understand the political gambit unleashed on the people. Yari.ba knew very well that northern region of Nigeria is hellishly scared about the disintegration of Nigeria. In addition, Yari.ba are also scared as the northern region in case of the demise of Nigeria however the Yari.ba seemed to hold the key to allay the fear of northern region. Only a fool in the Nigeria will see the pattern of economic infrastructure in Nigeria which portents northwest/southwest corridor still argue against your stance in this discuss.