jl115:
you literally admitted Ghana was responsible for alot of the independence movements....

"[b]Yes it did and Ghana sponsored lot of independence movement[."

So my question remains was Ghana responsible for decolonisation in Africa or not...... If indeed you still say no, then who was responsible?

MumuCountry:
Stop asking stvpid questions.

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jl115:

So typical of you to simply ignore context.................

I was responding to vaxx1, who claimed that South Africa did not become independent/a republic in 1961 since White people(specifically Afrikaners) still controlled the country, hence what he means, was that Afrikaners were foreigners/colonists and thus SA was still a colony of Europe......Now all i pointed out was Afrikaners are not Europeans and were colonized and oppressed(probably not to the same extent as black people) by European colonizer just as the rest of Africa, and had no ties with Europe even as far back as the mid 1700s

I've said this on other forums before as well, Afrikaners are Africans and have very few if any ties to Europe HENCE why I said apartheid was one African group oppressing another, which was common through out Africa at that time.

I never once downed played or justified the Evil of apartheid as you claimed, I simply compared it to other African nations doing the same, and dispelled this myth that only Boers/Afrikaners were responsible for oppression, theft and murder in Africa(Specifically SA).

I don't get your point?? The Whites of South Africa are not the same as the ones in europe. To the Boer people Africa was/is home and they died fighting for it against British colonisers just like any other Black nation in Africa.

Apartheid was simply one African group oppressing another.... Not anything new if you look at the recent history of Africa.

The Boers wanted independence just as much as any other black nation and despised the British just as much as any Black Nation.

Even today stats show that the Afrkaner minority is the least likely to emigrate to another country than any other ethnicity in South Africa, even though economically they have the most means to do so

Known under the initials VOC (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie), the Dutch East India Company would be worth about $7.8 trillion today. [/b]Founded in 1602, it accomplished globalist capitalism some 400 years before everyone else did.

Coen captured at least 789 orang kaya their family members and deported them to Batavia, where some were enslaved.[1][2] He ordered his troops to sweep the island and to destroy its villages in order to force the surrender of the population.[1] The next few months the Dutch and the natives were engaged in fierce combat. [b]Witnessing the destruction caused by the Dutch, many natives chose to die of starvation or from jumping off the cliffs rather than surrender.[2]

According to Coen, "about 2,500" inhabitants died "of hunger and misery or by the sword", "a good party of woman and children" were taken, and not more than 300 escaped.[1] A[b]nother account estimated that out of the islands' 15,000 population, only 1,000 survived,[/b] including those who lived in or fled to the English-controlled islands of Ay and Run.[1][2] Modern scholars estimate that 90 percent of the population was killed, enslaved or deported during the campaign.[10]

Chinezenmoord, literally "Murder of the Chinese"; Indonesian: Geger Pacinan, meaning "Chinatown Tumult" was a pogrom in which Dutch East Indies soldiers and native collaborators killed ethnic Chinese residents of the port city of Batavia (present-day Jakarta) in the Dutch East Indies. The violence in the city lasted from 9 October 1740 until 22 October, with minor skirmishes outside the walls continuing late into November that year. Historians have estimated that at least 10,000 ethnic Chinese were massacred; just 600 to 3,000 are believed to have survived.

The war was very costly as 8,000 Europeans and 7,000 Javanese soldiers were killed; more than 200,000 Javanese died, as the population of Yogyakarta was reduced by half. The Dutch spent five million guilders per year on the war’s expenses.

Upset by the plundering of a shipwreck, the Dutch attacked Bali in 1906. The rajas, their families, and servants dressed in white and marched into battle with only lances and daggers, and the Dutch shot them down with guns. The rajas killed their wounded before marching forward again until all of them, about 800, were dead. In 1908 Bali’s most senior king, the Dewa Agung of Klungkung, objected to the Government’s new opium administration, and his family and about 500 servants were wiped out in the same way.

The man named Westerling became symbol of the atrocities by the Dutch army. His full name was Raymond Westerling and he is the one who got involved in a massacre of thousands of people in South Sulawesi. The Indonesian side mention that there were 40,000 people massacred in 3 months by the actions of Westerling. If we divide 40,000 people by 90 days, then the Dutch soldiers massacred 444 persons every day.

vaxx1:
they are already dominated by India economically..... so just30 what is the dominance you are talking about? .....
Remove India from kenya and kenya collapsed automatically cus for every town in kenya there is a likelihood of India strong economic presence. from manufacturing , finance to retail. etc.. ...

jl115:

Thanks bro!! I mean Donald Trump is a legendary businessman who has a net worth of $4 billion , He is also responsible for turning around the US economy.

So yes I would say Donald Trump is very proficient!!

kikuyu1:


NO. STOP TELLING ON YOURSELF ALREADY!? You tried to normalise your peoples behaviour which I honestly think may have genetic compulsions.



At the same time you landed here your people were up to their natural tendencies in Indonesia. Your people set up the Dutch East India Company early 1600s to trade in Indonesian spices with a profit ratio of up to 35,000%. No surprise that til now the trading company still has the largest market worth ever!

https://bigthink.com/culture-religion/5-of-the-richest-companies-in-history

Bigger than Microsoft,Apple and Coke combined. Anyway, the VOC landed in 1601 and in 20 years the first massacre of locals in Banda was recorded.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_conquest_of_the_Banda_Islands

A series of mass killings were carried out to enforce local compliance with VOC demands to cultivate spices and accept prices however low throughout Indonesia. In nameless villages mercs,auxiliaries and Dutchmen would deport,torture,hang and behead a handful with such nonchalance records weren't kept! Local memory never forget the victims of Dutch racism. Btw,this was the origin of the Cape Malays.
Larger mass killings however were carefully documented like Batavia 1740 wherein 10,000 Chinese were killed in 2 weeks.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1740_Batavia_massacre

Control went from the VOC to the Dutch government early 1800s but things didn't change as people will fight against their colonizer who will respond the only way he knows-with blind force and contempt for human life.


http://www.san.beck.org/20-11-Indonesia1800-1950.html



The last mass murder was committed in 1947 when the Dutch tried to retake Indonesia after the Jap surrender and ofc the locals didn't want that ishyt!
https://historibersama.com/in-peace-with-dark-history-tirto/

Fyi,the Dutch ambassador apologised for the Westerling massacre in Sulawesi in 2013. STOP TRYING TO ASSOCIATE US WITH YOUR EVIL NATURE,GODDAMMIT!? Tell me honestly where we've down this,apart from Shaka Zulu and the Tutsi attack on the Hutu in 1994. Answer without your irrelevant word salad and extraneous info.

Just30:


okay
bye bye now

Kazikazi:
The arguments started when a certain kiberan claimed,best schools in Tz are owned and taught by Kenyans.I disagreed.
I showed him our number one school, International school of Tanganyika which is mostly not only taught by whites but its almost white on everything. Upon seeing this truth,the goalposts have been changed. Now you are claiming about schools taught by Kenyan dropout.Can you prove? Can you give me the names of teachers and the schools they teach?

MumuCountry:
Stop asking stvpid questions.

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vaxx1:
they are already dominated by India economically..... so just30 what is the dominance you are talking about? .....
Remove India from kenya and kenya collapsed automatically cus for every town in kenya there is a likelihood of India strong economic presence. from manufacturing , finance to retail. etc.. ...

68816419:
Nigeria's Access Bank eyes African expansion after Kenyan acquisition

LAGOS, Jan 17 (Reuters) - Nigeria’s Access Bank plans to expand to Cameroon, Mozambique and Sierra Leone [/b]this year after acquiring a Kenyan lender, the bank’s spokesman said.

The top-tier [b]Nigerian lender acquired 100% of Kenya’s Transnational Bank, the East African central bank said on Friday. (Reporting by Chijioke Ohuocha; Editing by Alex Richardson)

68816419:

just in

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


There is no bank in Nigeria which have expanded to other African countries and had a success story. Diamond Bank expanded and collapsed because of its expansion into other. Guaranty Trust Bank is troubling bitterly in Ghana Benin Republic Togo and other African countries even going to the extent of closing 50% of their branches in other African markets. Zenith bank had a bit of a success story but their total equities is now in trouble for 5 billion US dollar down to 2.4 billion US dollar. The reason why these banks cannot compete in other African countries is because there is stiff competition.

68816419:

Cow

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


[b]This is very surprising [/b]Union bank uba bank are both in trouble in Nigeria. Ecobank in Nigeria is also in trouble . These are the five top banks in Nigeria in trouble. So they removed all their money from Nigeria to go and invest in Kenya. Also that Nigerian startup company which is investing in Ethiopia is the same thing that is how companies in Nigeria are. When a company wants to back out of the country it will say it is opening a branch in another country next think they will shut down in Nigeria.

68816419:
Lagos(Tech,Entertainments, Sports,Economy, religious Capital of Africa )

jl115:
was I talking to you??

Stop being desperate for my attention..... It's sad!

Kazikazi:
Don't count your Chinese master's GTC.It is unfinished. Currently you have only 4 complete towers of 30+.
Meanwhile, united republic has too many complete towers which are not even owned by colonizers

1.TPA 40 floors
2.PPF towers 35floors
3.PSPF tower A. 35 floors
4.PSPF tower b. 35 fl
5.MNF A. 30 fl
6.MNF B.30 fl
7.Rita Tower. 30 floors
I can't list unfinished projects

68816419:
Nigeria’s Biggest Bank May Make Deals to Expand in East Africa

Guaranty Trust Bank Plc will consider acquisitions outside its home market as Nigeria’s biggest lender by market value seeks to expand on the rest of the continent.

The company, which already has offices in 10 countries outside Nigeria, is looking to East Africa for growth, Chief Executive Officer Segun Agbaje said on a call with investors from Lagos on Tuesday. Guaranty Trust Bank, or GTB, already has operations in Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania and Rwanda, and will also consider ways of expanding existing businesses, he said.

“We’ll start to look at other things, probably outside of what you are seeing us doing now, some of it might be to look at making acquisitions outside of Nigeria,” the CEO said. “In East Africa, we have to do one of two things: We either have to bring in capital or we have to think of acquisitions.”

[b]Pre-tax contributions from units outside Nigeria rose to 16% in the six months through June from 12% a year earlier, and are expected to grow even further, [/b]Agbaje said.

GTB and other banks in the West African nation, including United Bank for Africa Plc, are looking to expand abroad following a recession in 2016 that triggered a surge in non-performing loans, from which the industry is still struggling to recover.

68816419:
Lagos(Tech,Entertainments, Sports,Economy, religious Capital of Africa )

68816419:
Lagos(Tech,Entertainments, Sports,Economy, religious Capital of Africa )

Austine1213:


Lol

68816419:
Lagos(Tech,Entertainments, Sports,Economy, religious Capital of Africa )

theenchanter:
I once met a Zambian lady in TBS (last pics). I knew she wasn't Nigerian nor W. African d moment i saw her cos of her facial structure.

We had a little chat and she asked me "why do Nigerians hate Nigeria?" i feigned ignorance and told her i don't know what she's talking about, but she said she had a mixed feeling about coming here (for something) cos many things she saw on d internet about Nigeria by Nigerians made her puke, literally.

She said she came and its a different story entirely.... I just told her many sh1t happens on the internet. only if she knew she was talking to the gang leader that day.

mtisTheQubit:

why na.. dont say that